toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

[packprof]

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

Papyrus.0.log

[VirginMarie]

im new to this skyrim modding and i need little help on this mod...i installed every required mods for this and ran fnis too...then i opened the game and in mcm menu i verified zaz animation.after that its suppose to do that trap in a cage thing for 5 seconds...but it does nothing for me.that means i did something wrong in the process.but then i started a new game and tried it and it worked.my character trapped inside a cage for few seconds and the mod works perfectly.idk how that happend.can u help me out why that happened.i want the mod work for my current progression not the new game....thanx in advance...

 

When the only thing you are doing different is starting a new game versus loading a save, this confirms your save is corrupt. The most common cause of corrupt save is not following (or knowing) what I call the golden rule.

[VirginMarie]

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

Also could you describe what you are seeing? Does it start with the device thingie on the wall but no animation, or nothing at all etc?

[packprof]

 

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

 

Thank you for the fast response. I've tried it several times and gotten the same response. The Draugr Overload doesn't appear until after the word wall animation is completed.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

 

Thank you for the fast response. I've tried it several times and gotten the same response. The Draugr Overload doesn't appear until after the word wall animation is completed.

 

 

It could be because your save is not healthy. The first 640 lines of your log are errors and warnings of the type that come most likely from not following the golden rule. It's possible that only this location will misbehave and you find it works elsewhere. It's also possible you will have lots of problems.

 

What exactly are you seeing for the word wall love? Nothing at all? Any notification? Partially starts?

 

How exactly did you upgrade? Can you describe the steps used.

[packprof]

 

 

 

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

 

Thank you for the fast response. I've tried it several times and gotten the same response. The Draugr Overload doesn't appear until after the word wall animation is completed.

 

 

It could be because your save is not healthy. The first 640 lines of your log are errors and warnings of the type that come most likely from not following the golden rule. It's possible that only this location will misbehave and you find it works elsewhere. It's also possible you will have lots of problems.

 

What exactly are you seeing for the word wall love? Nothing at all? Any notification? Partially starts?

 

How exactly did you upgrade? Can you describe the steps used.

 

At the word wall, the normal game animation is playing. I upgraded by deactivated Shout, opening the save, creating a new save then closing the game. I then used Save Cleaner to clean up the unused scripts. Activated the new shout and load the cleaned save. Also, I am using Mod Organizer. I'll move to a different word wall and try again. If that doesn't work I'll go back to the beginning. This save is not the far into the game. It will be interesting to see if some of the error early in the log file are still there with a restart.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

 

Thank you for the fast response. I've tried it several times and gotten the same response. The Draugr Overload doesn't appear until after the word wall animation is completed.

 

 

It could be because your save is not healthy. The first 640 lines of your log are errors and warnings of the type that come most likely from not following the golden rule. It's possible that only this location will misbehave and you find it works elsewhere. It's also possible you will have lots of problems.

 

What exactly are you seeing for the word wall love? Nothing at all? Any notification? Partially starts?

 

How exactly did you upgrade? Can you describe the steps used.

 

At the word wall, the normal game animation is playing. I upgraded by deactivated Shout, opening the save, creating a new save then closing the game. I then used Save Cleaner to clean up the unused scripts. Activated the new shout and load the cleaned save. Also, I am using Mod Organizer. I'll move to a different word wall and try again. If that doesn't work I'll go back to the beginning. This save is not the far into the game. It will be interesting to see if some of the error early in the log file are still there with a restart.

 

 

I upgraded by deactivated Shout, opening the save, creating a new save then closing the game. I then used Save Cleaner to clean up the unused scripts. Activated the new shout and load the cleaned save.

 

This is your problem. You can't use the save you created that way. This is why your save is not healthy for any mod to run well.

 

This is not how you upgrade a mod. You are using the steps often referred to as a "clean save" which are intended for replacing a mod where upgrading is deemed by the author to be not compatible thus require a new game or clean save. I don't recommend clean saves and save cleaners they are risky and break the golden rule. They are a work around.

 

In this case the mod is fully compatible for upgrade as I give in the instructions. All you do is replace the mod by uninstall and reinstall using your mod manager. No saves in between. No cleaning tools. And no lost progress with the mod (which you DO lose with a clean save).

[packprof]

 

 

 

 

 

First let me say thank you for your mod, I enjoy playing it and you have done a very nice job with it. I have been playing with version 3.7 with no problems. I upgraded to version 3.9, reran FNIS and starting playing an earlier save. I went in Bleak Falls Barrow and the new word wall animations are not working. It was fine when I visited with v3.7. Attached is the papyrus log. For some reason the is an error with a couple of the word wall scripts. Not sure if it is this version or if I did something else. Thanks for your help.

 

Word wall love will be skipped if you are in combat when it starts. There would be a notification (easily missed) saying so. My guess is that nothing is wrong and the Draugr Overlord was engaged already before the word wall scene started. If my guess is correct, it's working normally.

 

EDIT: although the error in the log is maybe not agreeing with this... what happens if you try it again?

 

Thank you for the fast response. I've tried it several times and gotten the same response. The Draugr Overload doesn't appear until after the word wall animation is completed.

 

 

It could be because your save is not healthy. The first 640 lines of your log are errors and warnings of the type that come most likely from not following the golden rule. It's possible that only this location will misbehave and you find it works elsewhere. It's also possible you will have lots of problems.

 

What exactly are you seeing for the word wall love? Nothing at all? Any notification? Partially starts?

 

How exactly did you upgrade? Can you describe the steps used.

 

At the word wall, the normal game animation is playing. I upgraded by deactivated Shout, opening the save, creating a new save then closing the game. I then used Save Cleaner to clean up the unused scripts. Activated the new shout and load the cleaned save. Also, I am using Mod Organizer. I'll move to a different word wall and try again. If that doesn't work I'll go back to the beginning. This save is not the far into the game. It will be interesting to see if some of the error early in the log file are still there with a restart.

 

 

I upgraded by deactivated Shout, opening the save, creating a new save then closing the game. I then used Save Cleaner to clean up the unused scripts. Activated the new shout and load the cleaned save.

 

This is your problem. You can't use the save you created that way. This is why your save is not healthy for any mod to run well.

 

This is not how you upgrade a mod. You are using the steps often referred to as a "clean save" which are intended for replacing a mod where upgrading is deemed by the author to be not compatible thus require a new game or clean save. I don't recommend clean saves and save cleaners they are risky and break the golden rule. They are a work around.

 

In this case the mod is fully compatible for upgrade as I give in the instructions. All you do is replace the mod by uninstall and reinstall using your mod manager. No saves in between. No cleaning tools. And no lost progress with the mod (which you DO lose with a clean save).

 

Got it. Rolled back one more save, upgraded correctly this time and word wall working as it is supposed to. Appreciate your help and patience.

[Foxst]

I'm currently trying to disable dwemer devices for that part of the quest. I've activated two while wearing the workout plugs and it says that they're being deactivated, but the quest won't update. 

 

I can't be reborn anymore (Nocturnal's power is sapped by the devices), so I seem to be stuck.

[VirginMarie]

I'm currently trying to disable dwemer devices for that part of the quest. I've activated two while wearing the workout plugs and it says that they're being deactivated, but the quest won't update. 

 

I can't be reborn anymore (Nocturnal's power is sapped by the devices), so I seem to be stuck.

 

You are given the option to activate the next location. If you did that, you will need to deactivate 3. So deactivate another(either way) and if that does not work I will try to help further.

[Foxst]

Gotcha, I'll keep deactivating them then.

 

Thanks!

[boulou]

I have downloaded your mod, and while I had a hard time making it work (golden rule not respected etc.) I'm now playing and I just comment here to present my respect for your work. The mod is very fun. The "virgin training" is wonderfully done, the gagging mouth thing is used with every NPC I have seen (except the dog Barbas, but I guess it's normal with somone talking to your mind...) and is very... how do I say that, enticing?

 

I like really much your mod even if it meant I restarted the game after 100 hours of normal playing - I didn't even finish it once = it was my first game!

 

Keep on working, you are doing an amazing job at making the world a more fun/exciting (and I mean really and very exciting ) place to be in.

 

I like how the character is played with by the gods in your setting. What is a mere hero for the deadras (I'm new to TES-verse so sorry if I mix things up) when they can have fun with him.

[VirginMarie]

I have downloaded your mod, and while I had a hard time making it work (golden rule not respected etc.) I'm now playing and I just comment here to present my respect for your work. The mod is very fun. The "virgin training" is wonderfully done, the gagging mouth thing is used with every NPC I have seen (except the dog Barbas, but I guess it's normal with somone talking to your mind...) and is very... how do I say that, enticing?

 

I like really much your mod even if it meant I restarted the game after 100 hours of normal playing - I didn't even finish it once = it was my first game!

 

Keep on working, you are doing an amazing job at making the world a more fun/exciting (and I mean really and very exciting ) place to be in.

 

I like how the character is played with by the gods in your setting. What is a mere hero for the deadras (I'm new to TES-verse so sorry if I mix things up) when they can have fun with him.

 

I'm glad you are enticed, excited, and having fun

[boulou]

Hi, I have progressed in the story and got to the point of having Nocturnal trust and keys.

 

Sound Good. To progress further, I unlocked all virgin items but then I have 2 Virgin items for which they say I do not have the right Key... I do not understand why. The keys I have came from nocturnal.

 

(Even if I use removeitem from console, that would not go away.)

 

Any idea on how to remove the virgin hideous wrist restraints and the virgin ankle ball ?

 

Edit: also using the "change/reset" option from the mod menu in MCM doesn't allow both of those items to go away : all is replaced but not those two which remains stuck in my inventory (the new ones are also in the inventory, but unequipped).

[Asian_Ninja1]

Question, is my player supposed to be glowing like a lightbulb?

[VirginMarie]

Hi, I have progressed in the story and got to the point of having Nocturnal trust and keys.

 

Sound Good. To progress further, I unlocked all virgin items but then I have 2 Virgin items for which they say I do not have the right Key... I do not understand why. The keys I have came from nocturnal.

 

(Even if I use removeitem from console, that would not go away.)

 

Any idea on how to remove the virgin hideous wrist restraints and the virgin ankle ball ?

 

Edit: also using the "change/reset" option from the mod menu in MCM doesn't allow both of those items to go away : all is replaced but not those two which remains stuck in my inventory (the new ones are also in the inventory, but unequipped).

 

This is working correctly.

 

The Hideous Wrist Restraints and Ankle Ball are part of the Tales & Tallows Quest. They cannot be removed till you receive the key at the end of that quest.

Question, is my player supposed to be glowing like a lightbulb?

 

The halo and horns both provide a light source. Perhaps this is what you are referring to?

 

The light can be toggled on and off with the hot key ( [  by default, can change in MCM )

Or you can disable the halo and horns in MCM.

 

The Anal Torch and Lantern also provide light sources. These do not turn off without removing the device.

[Asian_Ninja1]

 

Question, is my player supposed to be glowing like a lightbulb?

 

The halo and horns both provide a light source. Perhaps this is what you are referring to?

 

The light can be toggled on and off with the hot key ( [  by default, can change in MCM )

Or you can disable the halo and horns in MCM.

 

The Anal Torch and Lantern also provide light sources. These do not turn off without removing the device.

 

 

I've just tried toggling the light but it did not work. It'll probably be better to show you through a screenshot.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

Question, is my player supposed to be glowing like a lightbulb?

 

The halo and horns both provide a light source. Perhaps this is what you are referring to?

 

The light can be toggled on and off with the hot key ( [  by default, can change in MCM )

Or you can disable the halo and horns in MCM.

 

The Anal Torch and Lantern also provide light sources. These do not turn off without removing the device.

 

 

I've just tried toggling the light but it did not work. It'll probably be better to show you through a screenshot. 20170207152342_1.jpg

 

 

That's of course far from normal. Likely unrelated to any light source from this mod. I have no idea how that's happening. Need more info.

1. What version of this mod?
2. First use of the mod or did you upgrade?
3. I'd assume you have not been like since the start of the mod?
4. What was going on when this occurred?
5. If you go to an earlier save is it gone?
6. If yes if you use that save, does it eventually occur again after doing something?

[Asian_Ninja1]

 

That's of course far from normal. Likely unrelated to any light source from this mod. I have no idea how that's happening. Need more info.

1. What version of this mod?
2. First use of the mod or did you upgrade?
3. I'd assume you have not been like since the start of the mod?
4. What was going on when this occurred?
5. If you go to an earlier save is it gone?
6. If yes if you use that save, does it eventually occur again after doing something?

 

1. Version 3.9

2. First time using the mod

3. No, the problem started happening some time into my playthough of the mod. 

4. To be honest, I don't know what caused this problem. I just went into third person and I've noticed. 

5. It's gone from an earlier save. However, I have made semi-significant progress from that save. 

6. I will test from that save to see what triggers the problem to happen. I'll reply again when I see when it starts. 

 

Edit: I've narrowed it down to something between the spanking for Dibella and the first time in the Afterlife.

Edit2: Okay, so this is weird. I've managed to get past the first rebirth and the problem did not happen this time.

Edit3: I've did a little research on google and it suggested that I switch genders, and guess what! It fixed the problem. Still have no idea to what's causing the problem in the first place. 

 

[Brommer]

 

...snip...

 

Thanks for the info. Glad you like the redressing For #4 I'm trying to think of how to exclude those types of NPCs but the problem is that I don't want to create a dependency on Hearthfire DLC in doing so.

 

 

It started getting annoying having to redress every few minutes when wearing the asphyxiation collar. Now it's much better, the thing is still a punishing device, but no longer annoying. Regarding excluding types of NPCs, maybe bards should be excluded. I have a feeling they are responsible, because they sort of force people into applauding and similar animations. Btw the love collar has the same problems in my player home, but I guess it works the same way as the asphyxiation collar.

 

I currently have another problem, somehow Gallus is broken. He keeps following me without talking to me. Talking to him doesn't work either. Sometimes Hamal has similar behavior but I can just talk to her to get the dialogue, but with Gallus it doesn't work. Any way I can fix him?

[VirginMarie]

 

 

...snip...

 

Thanks for the info. Glad you like the redressing For #4 I'm trying to think of how to exclude those types of NPCs but the problem is that I don't want to create a dependency on Hearthfire DLC in doing so.

 

 

It started getting annoying having to redress every few minutes when wearing the asphyxiation collar. Now it's much better, the thing is still a punishing device, but no longer annoying. Regarding excluding types of NPCs, maybe bards should be excluded. I have a feeling they are responsible, because they sort of force people into applauding and similar animations. Btw the love collar has the same problems in my player home, but I guess it works the same way as the asphyxiation collar.

I will see if there's a way to exclude Bards. That could be it. While they are "in scene" they are already excluded, but could be going in and out of scenes.

 

I currently have another problem, somehow Gallus is broken. He keeps following me without talking to me. Talking to him doesn't work either. Sometimes Hamal has similar behavior but I can just talk to her to get the dialogue, but with Gallus it doesn't work. Any way I can fix him?

Try the Player Reset in MCM (Misc tab). Let me know if that works.

 

 

1. Version 3.9

2. First time using the mod

3. No, the problem started happening some time into my playthough of the mod. 

4. To be honest, I don't know what caused this problem. I just went into third person and I've noticed. 

5. It's gone from an earlier save. However, I have made semi-significant progress from that save. 

6. I will test from that save to see what triggers the problem to happen. I'll reply again when I see when it starts. 

 

Edit: I've narrowed it down to something between the spanking for Dibella and the first time in the Afterlife.

Edit2: Okay, so this is weird. I've managed to get past the first rebirth and the problem did not happen this time.

Edit3: I've did a little research on google and it suggested that I switch genders, and guess what! It fixed the problem. Still have no idea to what's causing the problem in the first place. 

 

Good to know. Not directly related to this mod then in fact sounds like maybe a known vanilla skyrim problem.

[Asian_Ninja1]

 

 

1. Version 3.9

2. First time using the mod

3. No, the problem started happening some time into my playthough of the mod. 

4. To be honest, I don't know what caused this problem. I just went into third person and I've noticed. 

5. It's gone from an earlier save. However, I have made semi-significant progress from that save. 

6. I will test from that save to see what triggers the problem to happen. I'll reply again when I see when it starts. 

 

Edit: I've narrowed it down to something between the spanking for Dibella and the first time in the Afterlife.

Edit2: Okay, so this is weird. I've managed to get past the first rebirth and the problem did not happen this time.

Edit3: I've did a little research on google and it suggested that I switch genders, and guess what! It fixed the problem. Still have no idea to what's causing the problem in the first place. 

 

Good to know. Not directly related to this mod then in fact sounds like maybe a known vanilla skyrim problem.

 

After a bit more of playing and reloading a save (I killed someone I didn't want to), the problem seems to come back. It seems changing genders is only a temporary fix. I don't want to backtrack since its been a while. 

 

Also can I ask what I am supposed to do with the tome for the skeleton key?

[Oghmatorro]

I use 3.8 and have problems with shrine love. I can't activate the dibella statue. I tried "e" and the love shout. I already disabled sisterhood of dibella. I wear no virgin chastity devices.

 

Do you have any idea to fix this?

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

1. Version 3.9

2. First time using the mod

3. No, the problem started happening some time into my playthough of the mod. 

4. To be honest, I don't know what caused this problem. I just went into third person and I've noticed. 

5. It's gone from an earlier save. However, I have made semi-significant progress from that save. 

6. I will test from that save to see what triggers the problem to happen. I'll reply again when I see when it starts. 

 

Edit: I've narrowed it down to something between the spanking for Dibella and the first time in the Afterlife.

Edit2: Okay, so this is weird. I've managed to get past the first rebirth and the problem did not happen this time.

Edit3: I've did a little research on google and it suggested that I switch genders, and guess what! It fixed the problem. Still have no idea to what's causing the problem in the first place. 

 

Good to know. Not directly related to this mod then in fact sounds like maybe a known vanilla skyrim problem.

 

After a bit more of playing and reloading a save (I killed someone I didn't want to), the problem seems to come back. It seems changing genders is only a temporary fix. I don't want to backtrack since its been a while. 

What about restarting computer?

 

Also can I ask what I am supposed to do with the tome for the skeleton key?

Reading it tells you. Also should be an objective in Virgin Training quest.

 

I use 3.8 and have problems with shrine love. I can't activate the dibella statue. I tried "e" and the love shout. I already disabled sisterhood of dibella. I wear no virgin chastity devices.

 

Do you have any idea to fix this?

 

Do you have a quest map marker on the shrine with Shrine Love as an active quest? If yes...

 

The only know cause of this is Sisterhood. If you have a bashed patch I think you'd need to make a new bashed patch after disabling (or placing Sisterhood ahead of this mod).

[Oghmatorro]

Yes, I have the quest marker.

 

What is a bashed patch? I use MO.

 

Thank you for your quick response.