toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

*VirginMarie* · July 28, 2016

I clicked all over that one. No Quest marker and no activation point.

I would expect the Quest marker to show up as soon as the Skull was banished. It did not.

Got some variables I can check and report back on?

Of course when I try it tomorrow - it will probably work immediately.

I think you did not complete the quest. It won't display when the skull was banished. It's not complete until you talk to the guy after it's banished.

SQV DA16

what's the current stage? if not 200 you did not complete.

I had talked to eradur; he offered to be my follower.

DA16 stage is 200 and stopped.

Training Quest is selected; no Quest marker.

Knowing the right idol to click helped. I clicked all over the front of the idol; no response.

I went through it to the back side and located the activation point below the idol.

Then I went back into the first chamber and had no problem locating it - below the idol.

I think I have finished all Daedric content.

Plowing through the Dibella line, I seem to be stuck again.

In my game, the Hall of the Vigilant has been burned to rubble. No shrine at all to worship.

I had a Quest marker until I reached the hall - then it went away.

On the gag issue, it would be more aesthetically pleasing if it was removed during spitting.

The spit does not look right sharing the mouth with the gag. We mod users are so picky...

So seems certain you did not get a quest marker for that idol, but when you find it's activator it works, is what I think you are saying, correct me if I'm wrong. Ill have to try and recreate - added to to-do list

Hall of Vigilant can be burned to rubble!!!? damn lol - thanks for that I can't use that location then, or maybe skip if I can detect it's burnt-down-ness.

You can use SetStage VirginShrineLove 125 to get past that point... should work.

Yes I'm going to kill the gag during rebrith

fred200 · July 28, 2016

The Hall of the Vigilant is destroyed once you reach Level 10 or compleat Dawnguard.

fred200 · July 28, 2016

Finished the Dibella thread.

Now I just wish there were some way to turn of Nocturnal 5 day summons while waiting for new content.

Minor item to note: zoning into inner sanctum you are facing a black wall. Looks like a hung zoning.

Took me forever to realize I had to rotate to face the tunnel.

If this is your first mod - you are doing great! Keep using your husband for inspiration.

*VirginMarie* · July 28, 2016

Finished the Dibella thread.

Now I just wish there were some way to turn of Nocturnal 5 day summons while waiting for new content.

Minor item to note: zoning into inner sanctum you are facing a black wall. Looks like a hung zoning.

Took me forever to realize I had to rotate to face the tunnel.

If this is your first mod - you are doing great! Keep using your husband for inspiration.

You could set the 5 days summons higher... I think 10, which is a loooong time. That said I will be adding an option to disable it.

My objective is to make it so you don't want to turn if off. You will see in future releases, even the very next, there's repeatable stuff, to go along with the repeatable rebirth and punishments. You will be getting sent randomly to all kinds of locations.

The inner sanctum thing IS kinda poor, I know what you mean. Added to to-do list.

I use my husband for a lot of things It's like I have him in Virgin Training. But he's great at being my tester. I have a Virgin Gag on him so that he has to write down the test findings.

Thanks for all your help.

r5e4w3q2 · July 29, 2016

Thank you for responding!

2. Grey faces on all the NPCs so far, messenger and the wandering group.
You are the 2nd to report this. First person said it worked until v1.80. It's a bit of a mystery for me so I have released today a patch for it. If you could try the patch and let me know if it fixes for you, would be much appreciated.

I tried the patch but did not see any change. Their heads are still quite a bit grayer then their bodies.

3. Once Nocturnal shows up, not all the items she lists are given to me. Get torch, collar, wrist cuffs and gag. Do not get piercings, nipple covers or ankle cuffs
I can spawn the items with the console and they seem to work.
This has been reported a few times in various ways, but a mystery for me. I'm starting too think it's a bit random because happening for people with slower computers or maybe script heavy with lots of mods.

Could you try one thing for me... do all the items equip if you use the "Skip initial portion of story" under "Cheat "in MCM (just reload back to a save of course, if not wanting to actually skip the story)? If you could let me know the outcome of using that please

EDIT: actually this is clearer to me now... it's equipping you as if you are a male (not putting on items that are only female compatible). So the problem is that it thinks you are a male. I'm getting this from skyrim each time you load a save. You will get the same result when using the "Cheat" option I've asked you to try above. Can you think of any reason it would think you are a male, like some sort of mod installed? (this determination that you are male would show up in the log if you want to check and know how to... look for [Virgin]: Player is )

The "Skip initial portion of the story" gives the Skeleton key, torch, strap on, collar, wood gag, workout gag, wrist restraint and removal tool. Bold for the equipped ones.

[07/28/2016 - 04:28:36PM] [Virgin]: Player is female

Log attached if it helps

Nocturnal too powerful (the Nocturnal like a follower mode)... I'm interested to hear more on this, from other people reading too. Do you think she's more powerful than a typical follower? I've wondered if I need to adjust her as I'm not a big user of regular followers, but I DO use the mode turned on mostly and enjoy it that way myself so it's currently just adjusted to be how I think best fits. What level are your playing by the way? (she will adjust to your level)

More powerful then a default follower, yes. She tore though things that easily dropped Lydia. Many mod followers are more powerful then the default ones though, and Nocturnal isn't a typical follower

Only a chance of showing up? Other drawbacks if she does? I don't know. I do think her being better then a bit normal follower is fine, but I was able to clear whole quests by running around aggroing everything then shouting once and letting her kill everything.

Level 8-ish though level 12-ish, did not check levels with I enabled/disabled the option.

Delayed Orgasm - did not understand... Do you not understand because you don't know when it's happening? There will be a notification in top left of the screen "Loving caused a delayed orgasm!"

I don't know why it is happening. Why is the orgasm being delayed, it suppose to be some effect of the gear? Nocturnal's attention? an effect of the training?

Really a lot of things make me ask "why?", I know the story isn't finished and hopefully more will be explained once it is.

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New random question, have you tried recoloring the nipple guards to match the shiny gold look the other pieces have?

Papyrus.0.log

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

Thank you for responding!

2. Grey faces on all the NPCs so far, messenger and the wandering group.

You are the 2nd to report this. First person said it worked until v1.80. It's a bit of a mystery for me so I have released today a patch for it. If you could try the patch and let me know if it fixes for you, would be much appreciated.

I tried the patch but did not see any change. Their heads are still quite a bit grayer then their bodies.

3. Once Nocturnal shows up, not all the items she lists are given to me. Get torch, collar, wrist cuffs and gag. Do not get piercings, nipple covers or ankle cuffs

I can spawn the items with the console and they seem to work.

This has been reported a few times in various ways, but a mystery for me. I'm starting too think it's a bit random because happening for people with slower computers or maybe script heavy with lots of mods.

Could you try one thing for me... do all the items equip if you use the "Skip initial portion of story" under "Cheat "in MCM (just reload back to a save of course, if not wanting to actually skip the story)? If you could let me know the outcome of using that please

EDIT: actually this is clearer to me now... it's equipping you as if you are a male (not putting on items that are only female compatible). So the problem is that it thinks you are a male. I'm getting this from skyrim each time you load a save. You will get the same result when using the "Cheat" option I've asked you to try above. Can you think of any reason it would think you are a male, like some sort of mod installed? (this determination that you are male would show up in the log if you want to check and know how to... look for [Virgin]: Player is )

The "Skip initial portion of the story" gives the Skeleton key, torch, strap on, collar, wood gag, workout gag, wrist restraint and removal tool. Bold for the equipped ones.

[07/28/2016 - 04:28:36PM] [Virgin]: Player is female

Log attached if it helps

Nocturnal too powerful (the Nocturnal like a follower mode)... I'm interested to hear more on this, from other people reading too. Do you think she's more powerful than a typical follower? I've wondered if I need to adjust her as I'm not a big user of regular followers, but I DO use the mode turned on mostly and enjoy it that way myself so it's currently just adjusted to be how I think best fits. What level are your playing by the way? (she will adjust to your level)

More powerful then a default follower, yes. She tore though things that easily dropped Lydia. Many mod followers are more powerful then the default ones though, and Nocturnal isn't a typical follower

Only a chance of showing up? Other drawbacks if she does? I don't know. I do think her being better then a bit normal follower is fine, but I was able to clear whole quests by running around aggroing everything then shouting once and letting her kill everything.

Level 8-ish though level 12-ish, did not check levels with I enabled/disabled the option.

Delayed Orgasm - did not understand... Do you not understand because you don't know when it's happening? There will be a notification in top left of the screen "Loving caused a delayed orgasm!"

I don't know why it is happening. Why is the orgasm being delayed, it suppose to be some effect of the gear? Nocturnal's attention? an effect of the training?

Really a lot of things make me ask "why?", I know the story isn't finished and hopefully more will be explained once it is.

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New random question, have you tried recoloring the nipple guards to match the shiny gold look the other pieces have?

If you don't mind spending the time, could you try with a brand new game? This will rule out all Save Game issues that are just noise if we have them.

To save time on getting a shout etc. , type in console SetStage VirginStoryMain 20 and this will take you immediately to the first meeting.

Questions for the new game are:

Does the device equipping in that first meeting work or same problem?
If #1 still a problem, what does the log say for gender?
What is the result of using the Skip Story (starting with new game state again)
Do the dark faces go away?

Also, if you are back to your main game, and progress further with the mod, you will find you are being re-equipped after punishments etc. Please let me know if the equipping behaves or not in those instances.

Note: in all cases above: correct equipping if MCM options are all off (default), is: Torch, Chastity piercing, Nip Guard, Workout Gag, Harness, Collar, Wrist Restraints, and Ankle Chains

If it's during punishment this will be fewer items, but then after punishment is over, you should be back to the list above.

Initially I wished for the gold color on the guard but did not know how to do. Now I think I do just not thought about it. I've added to my to-do to try

r5e4w3q2 · July 29, 2016

I will try in a little bit.

Something that just came up now that I am far enough in the story to remove/add items. Do you not use the Devious Devices slot reference?

I am messing around with various bits and seem to be having slot conflicts.

Oddity, may just be skyrim being skyrim. Had a shout summon Nocturnal, the enemy I was fighting blew her off a cliff with a fireball, I kill the enemy and look around wondering where she got off to, suddenly I have a delayed orgasm from loving that didn't happen.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

I will try in a little bit.

Something that just came up now that I am far enough in the story to remove/add items. Do you not use the Devious Devices slot reference?

I am messing around with various bits and seem to be having slot conflicts.

All Virgin Devices are assets from other authors, as listed in the credits section, and I've coverted them to be devious devices. Thus I've inherited all the slots. In some cases I wanted to change the slot but when I tried it broke the item. So I'm kinda stuck.

EDIT:

re... Oddity, may just be skyrim being skyrim. Had a shout summon Nocturnal, the enemy I was fighting blew her off a cliff with a fireball, I kill the enemy and look around wondering where she got off to, suddenly I have a delayed orgasm from loving that didn't happen.

Chance it's a delayed orgasm from something previous to that, and now just catching up. Pain is pleasure is capable of triggering 2 delayed orgasms, too. It's triggered by sexlab telling this mod an animation involving the player has ended, so it could think that nocturnal DID do some loving... lol

r5e4w3q2 · July 29, 2016

If you don't mind spending the time, could you try with a brand new game? This will rule out all Save Game issues that are just noise if we have them.

To save time on getting a shout etc. , type in console SetStage VirginStoryMain 20 and this will take you immediately to the first meeting.

Questions for the new game are:

Does the device equipping in that first meeting work or same problem?

If #1 still a problem, what does the log say for gender?

What is the result of using the Skip Story (starting with new game state again)

Do the dark faces go away?

Also, if you are back to your main game, and progress further with the mod, you will find you are being re-equipped after punishments etc. Please let me know if the equipping behaves or not in those instances.

Note: in all cases above: correct equipping if MCM options are all off (default), is: Torch, Chastity piercing, Nip Guard, Workout Gag, Harness, Collar, Wrist Restraints, and Ankle Chains

If it's during punishment this will be fewer items, but then after punishment is over, you should be back to the list above.

Initially I wished for the gold color on the guard but did not know how to do. Now I think I do just not thought about it. I've added to my to-do to try

New game,

1. Same problems with items.

2. log says the character is male, till I save and reload so the mods/mcm can finish loading, then it says the character is female. I suspect this is Live Another Life doing this. I did not do the setstage thing till after the save and reload and at that point it should be seeing a female character.

3. same problems with items.

4. No, still have grey faces.

Edit To Add:

Back to the main game, just got a punishment and was only equipped with the torch, workout gag, collar and wrist restraints afterwards. log still says it sees the character as female.

While we are looking at the items, maybe the metal bits of the torch could use the shiny gold treatment?

All Virgin Devices are assets from other authors, as listed in the credits section, and I've coverted them to be devious devices. Thus I've inherited all the slots. In some cases I wanted to change the slot but when I tried it broke the item. So I'm kinda stuck.

While I am far from an expert I have wrangled a few items slots in the past. If I can be of any help, let me know.

Flameustc · July 29, 2016

Can't start an encounter, Nocturnal just runs away. Read the checklist in "Encounter Not Starting" section but still no clues.

I have forgotten to initialize Sexlab when I tried Cursed Loot's new quests before, and it's possible to complete a full quest line without any animation been actually triggered. So I'm curious if there is any issues other than animation ones can cause such a problem.

Need more specifics.

Are you talking about the very first meeting with Nocturnal, or have there been some successful encounters, like the first one where you get equipped with devices?

Since you say Nocturnal runs away, almost certainly Zaz is your problem, if we are talking about the first meeting with her. I've never seen other causes for this.

So with this very limited description of your problem, I'd suggest reinstalling Zaz using the steps in Troubleshooting. Don't forget FNIS. After that if still a problem, see if you can get me a papyrus log.

Thanks for the reply. But sorry for the noob question, how can I know if Zaz' animations are working properly?

I took a look at FNIS_ZaZAnimationPack_List.txt and found lines like "b ZapArmbStruggle01 ZapArmbStruggle01.hkx". Then I put my PC into an armbinder and pressed tab to struggle. My PC shook her arms along with sexy moan. Does that prove anything or not? Because I'm using MO, I'm quite sure there is no installation problem of Zaz (with 6.11 patch ofc), and I have never met animation issues before during over 30 hrs game time with other mods which also depend on Zaz. (SD, CD, TiR, etc.)

I searched "Virgin" in my papyrus log and found nothing related to this mod except periodical checks, in spite of I have shouted several times and Nocturnal appears and runs away each time. Is that in line with your expectation?

Really like this mod's idea. Thanks for your work and looking forward to your replies.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

Can't start an encounter, Nocturnal just runs away. Read the checklist in "Encounter Not Starting" section but still no clues.

I have forgotten to initialize Sexlab when I tried Cursed Loot's new quests before, and it's possible to complete a full quest line without any animation been actually triggered. So I'm curious if there is any issues other than animation ones can cause such a problem.

Need more specifics.

Are you talking about the very first meeting with Nocturnal, or have there been some successful encounters, like the first one where you get equipped with devices?

Since you say Nocturnal runs away, almost certainly Zaz is your problem, if we are talking about the first meeting with her. I've never seen other causes for this.

So with this very limited description of your problem, I'd suggest reinstalling Zaz using the steps in Troubleshooting. Don't forget FNIS. After that if still a problem, see if you can get me a papyrus log.

Thanks for the reply. But sorry for the noob question, how can I know if Zaz' animations are working properly?

I took a look at FNIS_ZaZAnimationPack_List.txt and found lines like "b ZapArmbStruggle01 ZapArmbStruggle01.hkx". Then I put my PC into an armbinder and pressed tab to struggle. My PC shook her arms along with sexy moan. Does that prove anything or not? Because I'm using MO, I'm quite sure there is no installation problem of Zaz (with 6.11 patch ofc), and I have never met animation issues before during over 30 hrs game time with other mods which also depend on Zaz. (SD, CD, TiR, etc.)

I searched "Virgin" in my papyrus log and found nothing related to this mod except periodical checks, in spite of I have shouted several times and Nocturnal appears and runs away each time. Is that in line with your expectation?

Really like this mod's idea. Thanks for your work and looking forward to your replies.

I have given you possible solutions based on limited info and assumptions.

I still don't know... are we talking about the very first meeting, or have you had successful encounters?
What are you doing, what happens, then what goes wrong?
Have you tried reinstalling Zaz, first the 6.1, then the 6.11 patch, answering yes to replacing the files?
Have you upgraded this mod and if yes, have you done a clean save?
If you are not starting a new game, have you tried it with a new game? This can help us rule out any bad save issues.

I don't know of any way to verify Zaz is installed correctly, other than to use a mod that uses it's features. That's what we are doing here. Lots of mods rely on Zaz, but few use the furniture in scenes like this mod, thus it could still be incorrectly installed. Answer the questions above and then maybe I can help.

Papyrus is not going to show more than you describe, sounds normal to me. If you can attach a log that's right after your problem (the problem you describe for me) occurs, that will help me also.

Drek71 · July 29, 2016

Update since new version: Issue of game freezing seems to be gone on new save, skipped training however and removed a couple mods like milk mod.

Another question however, does the character usually bend when on the spit roast or is it just my installation?

Flameustc · July 29, 2016

I have given you possible solutions based on limited info and assumptions.

I still don't know... are we talking about the very first meeting, or have you had successful encounters?

What are you doing, what happens, then what goes wrong?

Have you tried reinstalling Zaz, first the 6.1, then the 6.11 patch, answering yes to replacing the files?

Have you upgraded this mod and if yes, have you done a clean save?

If you are not starting a new game, have you tried it with a new game? This can help us rule out any bad save issues.

I don't know of any way to verify Zaz is installed correctly, other than to use a mod that uses it's features. That's what we are doing here. Lots of mods rely on Zaz, but few use the furniture in scenes like this mod, thus it could still be incorrectly installed. Answer the questions above and then maybe I can help.

Papyrus is not going to show more than you describe, sounds normal to me. If you can attach a log that's right after your problem (the problem you describe for me) occurs, that will help me also.

I'm really sorry for not bringing out enough information. I wrote some of them down, but LL server's crash brought them away. And I forgot to write them twice.

To your question:

1. Yes, we are talking about the very first encounter.

2. I shouted, Cassia sent me a note in Whiterun, I shouted again out of Whterun, Nocturnal appeared from nowhere and ran away, I tried to talk to her but she has no words for me. I followed her to the southwest corner of Falkreach and then realized something must went wrong.

3. No, I didn't. Because MO's working mechanism is equivalent to installing your mod list into a clean Skyrim *EVERY* time you start the game, one mod by one mod, latter ones overwrite former ones.

4. I installed version 1.70 into an existing save.

5. I'm trying a new game on 1.80, but I need to do several quests before the first shout can be unlocked. I will report in this thread after that.

Sospice · July 29, 2016

I've got the newest version on. Everything went smoothly up until the "worship at Clavicus Vile's Shrine" quest. When I click on "worship at shrine" , the scene begins as it should. The character enters a bondage pose, Nocturnal appears, a sexlab animation initiates and I get one or two dialogue options. Then she disappears and the scene stops.

It seems like what's happening is I reach the "We're going to need more power to do this ritual" dialogue choice and then Nocturnal disappears because the summon nocturnal with shout scripts are also activating and it's interrupting the shrine scene? Is the sex animation supposed to be activating when we start the scene?

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

Update since new version: Issue of game freezing seems to be gone on new save, skipped training however and removed a couple mods like milk mod.

Another question however, does the character usually bend when on the spit roast or is it just my installation?

Not sure what you mean by "bend", but there's 3 poses.... 1 at the start and not rotating, then 2 during rotation, one of them being knees bent. You can see the knees bent pose in the picture that's on download page.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

I have given you possible solutions based on limited info and assumptions.

I still don't know... are we talking about the very first meeting, or have you had successful encounters?

What are you doing, what happens, then what goes wrong?

Have you tried reinstalling Zaz, first the 6.1, then the 6.11 patch, answering yes to replacing the files?

Have you upgraded this mod and if yes, have you done a clean save?

If you are not starting a new game, have you tried it with a new game? This can help us rule out any bad save issues.

I don't know of any way to verify Zaz is installed correctly, other than to use a mod that uses it's features. That's what we are doing here. Lots of mods rely on Zaz, but few use the furniture in scenes like this mod, thus it could still be incorrectly installed. Answer the questions above and then maybe I can help.

Papyrus is not going to show more than you describe, sounds normal to me. If you can attach a log that's right after your problem (the problem you describe for me) occurs, that will help me also.

I'm really sorry for not bringing out enough information. I wrote some of them down, but LL server's crash brought them away. And I forgot to write them twice.

To your question:

1. Yes, we are talking about the very first encounter.

2. I shouted, Cassia sent me a note in Whiterun, I shouted again out of Whterun, Nocturnal appeared from nowhere and ran away, I tried to talk to her but she has no words for me. I followed her to the southwest corner of Falkreach and then realized something must went wrong.

3. No, I didn't. Because MO's working mechanism is equivalent to installing your mod list into a clean Skyrim *EVERY* time you start the game, one mod by one mod, latter ones overwrite former ones.

4. I installed version 1.70 into an existing save.

5. I'm trying a new game on 1.80, but I need to do several quests before the first shout can be unlocked. I will report in this thread after that.

2. With this symptom, I'm 99% certain your Zaz Animations pack is incorrectly installed, possibly worsened by a FNIS problem. I recommend the latest 6.3 of FNIS since the previous version has the complexity of installing an add-on to fix it that many people miss.

3. That's mostly incorrect. First you make it sound like MO will clean save (see #4 below). There's at least 2 things I can think of that you could do wrong with MO... you could install just the 6.11 patch, thinking you don't also need 6.1 there. Or you could install them in the wrong order. Just trust me and reinstall your ZAZ using the directions in my Trouble Shooting. This has been the fix for everyone who's reported exactly what you reported in #2.

4. Sounds like you are not clean saving which is an absolute must. Read the spoiler for "How to Clean Save" in my Installation section. MO is not doing those steps for you. This could be your problem and if not, is till going to cause you more problems later on. For your new game, this of course is not relevant, which is why a new game test can rule out issues when you've tried everything else.

5. A good test, but maybe not needed if you first reinstall Zaz, check FNIS, and do a clean save. And in fact this test is a waste of time until you ensure Zaz and FNIS are good to go.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

I've got the newest version on. Everything went smoothly up until the "worship at Clavicus Vile's Shrine" quest. When I click on "worship at shrine" , the scene begins as it should. The character enters a bondage pose, Nocturnal appears, a sexlab animation initiates and I get one or two dialogue options. Then she disappears and the scene stops.

It seems like what's happening is I reach the "We're going to need more power to do this ritual" dialogue choice and then Nocturnal disappears because the summon nocturnal with shout scripts are also activating and it's interrupting the shrine scene? Is the sex animation supposed to be activating when we start the scene?

The sex animation should not be trying to happen in this scene. (I've seen this symptom myself in a different scenario, and realized I was catching myself testing with a update without clean saving)

I can think of 2 possibilities:

You had a previous encounter end abnormally and things have not reset.... try the "force player reset" option in MCM before you worship. If that does not reset things, having another encounter occur could clear you up... so you could force one by setting the shout detection to 100, and shout.
You upgraded this mod without a clean save... you can try the reset option, but even if this works, you could end up with more unpredictable problems later on. Should reinstall including a clean save... there's a spoiler on how to clean save in my Installation section.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

If you don't mind spending the time, could you try with a brand new game? This will rule out all Save Game issues that are just noise if we have them.

To save time on getting a shout etc. , type in console SetStage VirginStoryMain 20 and this will take you immediately to the first meeting.

Questions for the new game are:

Does the device equipping in that first meeting work or same problem?

If #1 still a problem, what does the log say for gender?

What is the result of using the Skip Story (starting with new game state again)

Do the dark faces go away?

Also, if you are back to your main game, and progress further with the mod, you will find you are being re-equipped after punishments etc. Please let me know if the equipping behaves or not in those instances.

Note: in all cases above: correct equipping if MCM options are all off (default), is: Torch, Chastity piercing, Nip Guard, Workout Gag, Harness, Collar, Wrist Restraints, and Ankle Chains

If it's during punishment this will be fewer items, but then after punishment is over, you should be back to the list above.

Initially I wished for the gold color on the guard but did not know how to do. Now I think I do just not thought about it. I've added to my to-do to try

New game,

1. Same problems with items.

2. log says the character is male, till I save and reload so the mods/mcm can finish loading, then it says the character is female. I suspect this is Live Another Life doing this. I did not do the setstage thing till after the save and reload and at that point it should be seeing a female character.

3. same problems with items.

4. No, still have grey faces.

Edit To Add:

Back to the main game, just got a punishment and was only equipped with the torch, workout gag, collar and wrist restraints afterwards. log still says it sees the character as female.

While we are looking at the items, maybe the metal bits of the torch could use the shiny gold treatment?

All Virgin Devices are assets from other authors, as listed in the credits section, and I've coverted them to be devious devices. Thus I've inherited all the slots. In some cases I wanted to change the slot but when I tried it broke the item. So I'm kinda stuck.

While I am far from an expert I have wrangled a few items slots in the past. If I can be of any help, let me know.

Your device equipping and grey faces have me stumped. With the patch made available yesterday I had hopped others would report that they have the same problem, or not, but nothing. I can assume for now it's pretty isolated. The combination of your two problems makes me think there could be a problem just installing this mod's files... (I've heard of mod managers doing funky things, like not installing all files just because the zip filename has spaces in it) soooo....

Could you check as a test.... Do you have 16 files, dated yesterday in this folder:

Data\textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint\Shout Like a Virgin.esp

If not the mod has not installed correctly, neither the main, or the patch. So then you'd want to reinstall and try doing it manually

( we can skip this next part, if the above determined there's missing files in your install)

I still see only one way for your equip problem to occur since its not random and doing what's expected for a male consistently.... it would have to be that it thinks you are male. To tackle this one, right after you do the "skip story" and have been equipped incorrectly, could you do this in console...

SQV VirginStoryMain

then page up in the console until you can find where it displays this...

Female_var =

Is it true or false?

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Metal bits on the torch gold is a nice idea too. I took a look at doing gold for the Nip Guard yesterday and realized I still have a fair bit to learn to pull that off. I got the feeling I'd have to go beyond just using NifSkope, so it's in my future to learn. If you know how to do this and wanted to try I'd love that

The Slots thing... I'm not sure where you are going with that. Is it because you think wrong slot could be the cause of the above problem? I can't say for sure but seems very unlikely.

Or is there some other reason you figure the slot needs to change? I can tell you for example, the anal devices are slotted funky, and are actually seen by the game as a weapon, which is likely why they can glitch.... they get rag-dolled like a weapon and "thrown away" (but never seen an equipping problem). I don't feel I can mess with this though. If you think you know how to improve that, or some other slot related issue, I'd be very happy to take what you come up with and put to use.

Krynn · July 29, 2016

I have one question pls, how can i worship that shrine at the first quest?

I'm at the shrine, but i can't do anything there,.. the dog quest is allready finished.

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

I have one question pls, how can i worship that shrine at the first quest?

I'm at the shrine, but i can't do anything there,.. the dog quest is allready finished.

If the dog quest is finished, there should be an objective marker for where you need to activate worship. It's just to the left of the statue on the pillar. You would need to have Virgin Training selected in your quest journal to see this marker.

Let me know if that helped.

Krynn · July 29, 2016

I have one question pls, how can i worship that shrine at the first quest?

I'm at the shrine, but i can't do anything there,.. the dog quest is allready finished.

If the dog quest is finished, there should be an objective marker for where you need to activate worship. It's just to the left of the statue on the pillar. You would need to have Virgin Training selected in your quest journal to see this marker.

Let me know if that helped.

Thank you for the fast awnser! Yes, i have dont see it on the left side, i'm always use E with the statue -.- ^^ :-)

Thanks!

*VirginMarie* · July 29, 2016

I have one question pls, how can i worship that shrine at the first quest?

I'm at the shrine, but i can't do anything there,.. the dog quest is allready finished.

If the dog quest is finished, there should be an objective marker for where you need to activate worship. It's just to the left of the statue on the pillar. You would need to have Virgin Training selected in your quest journal to see this marker.

Let me know if that helped.

Thank you for the fast awnser! Yes, i have dont see it on the left side, i'm always use E with the statue -.- ^^ :-)

Thanks!

I'm not sure I understand your answer, but by the happy sounding reply, I'm going to assume you were able to proceed. Have fun!

Krynn · July 29, 2016

Sorry, my english is not sooo good.. reading is oke so far, but writing...

Yes, it works! I have it not see at the left side, i alwas try to interact with the statue.

I'm finding your Mod very nice, BrandingDevice as example is a great job!!! What i not really like are the devices you get put on, i dont use HDT as example.. and this golden chains are not so my style :-)

Boots, like Slave Boots will also be very nice at this Mod.

I have take off in the MCM menu the Virgin Nipple Guards and the Harness.. i will testing to change them with other devices like zaz or DDi for myselfe, but i'm not a Modder.

Greetings

r5e4w3q2 · July 29, 2016

Could you check as a test.... Do you have 16 files, dated yesterday in this folder:

Data\textures\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceTint\Shout Like a Virgin.esp

If not the mod has not installed correctly, neither the main, or the patch. So then you'd want to reinstall and try doing it manually

Not much time, so just tackling this one right now.

The texture files look fine, but shouldn't there be matching .nif files in Data\Meshes\Actors\Character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\Shout Like a Virgin.esp?

I don't know for sure, just comparing to other mods, they may not be necessary. I tried generating my own with the creation kit, but I am not sure what I am doing and it was throwing errors about eyebrows.

Krynn · July 29, 2016

I dont really understand how Komotor's Animations will be work..

I have install it, run Fnis, have installed MassMatchMaker (I do not know if I need it)

But I always get the message that the mod is not installed after the branding scene and the cross.

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