Negative reputation

[Carabosse]

Wouldn't it be amazing if, as well as the positive reputation clicky thing, you could give negative reputation for each post. Of course your name would also be listed for that because no one likes a coward.

I quite often say things on the forum to provoke, knowing full well that the response will probably be negative in the main. I don't do it solely to annoy ( ), it's just one way of gauging peoples opinions. The problem is, that for the most part, people are too lazy to respond. But their laziness would be less of an obstacle to clicking a "negative opinion" button.

Mostly I'd like this for mod support threads, where you could suggest changes or a future direction and get a better feel for how those ideas are perceived.

And I know you can do polls. But polls are for wimps and people with too much time on their hands.

[DoctaSax]

I envision a lot of people whining about receiving negative rep.

[wulfgear09]

Smells like Troll shit in here. ( did that annoy you )

[Carabosse]

I envision a lot of people whining about receiving negative rep.

 

Who cares? (other than mods)

[Laura]

I don't think the site needs it.

Could invoke a lot of negativity.

 

I'm happy to say that i haven't seen many negative posts.

[Content Consumer]

 

 

Wouldn't it be amazing if, as well as the positive reputation clicky thing, you could give negative reputation for each post.

No, that's a terrible idea. I think it's so bad I'm going to negative rep your post.

 

Wait...

[Laura]

 

 

 

Wouldn't it be amazing if, as well as the positive reputation clicky thing, you could give negative reputation for each post.

No, that's a terrible idea. I think it's so bad I'm going to negative rep your post.

 

Wait...

 

 

Here:

[darkconsole]

if you're too big of a douche the mods will actually give you warning points which are displayed on your profile. apparently i skirt that line often.

[Carabosse]

if you're too big of a douche the mods will actually give you warning points which are displayed on your profile. apparently i skirt that line often.

 

Negative reputation is probably a misleading term, disagree is better I suppose. It's not at all about being a "douche" or receiving warning points, unless I misunderstood.

 

This is the important bit.

 

Mostly I'd like this for mod support threads, where you could suggest changes or a future direction and get a better feel for how those ideas are perceived.

[reeeeeeee123]

this isn't reddit

 

and that sort of feature is used on ULMF, it's not a necessarily a bad feature, it just isn't used correctly

[Gameplayer]

No.

 

Negative Rep is bad for business and its bad for modding.

 

There are some really good examples of how negative rep darn near destroyed Nexus Fallout 3 modding actually come to think of it....It did destroy Fallout 3 modding.

 

There were quite a few mods in the Adult top 100 where the authors were so negatively repped that their posts would be removed from their mod file.

 

I'm sure that negative reps would go over very well with communities you'd rather not have here at Lovers Lab such as all groups that have a negative view on anything sexual.

 

Negative Reps empower people that wish to hurt you to do so...There are more than mere trolls in this equation to consider such as religious and political groups that would see it as an opportunity.

[Carabosse]

Here's an example of how I imagined it.

 

I suggest an idea like in my mod having sex with ghouls will be prohibited. I come back later and overwhelmingly I see that people are against that. That might make me change course on that, either remove the prohibition or make it story appropriate that that can happen but has a possibility of a negative effect.

 

Just quick responses to ideas that will help shape the course of a mod.

 

It's not about how randomly opinionated people on the forum feel about themselves. I don;t care so much about that to be honest.

[Gameplayer]

Here's an example of how I imagined it.

 

I suggest an idea like in my mod having sex with ghouls will be prohibited. I come back later and overwhelmingly I see that people are against that. That might make me change course on that, either remove the prohibition or make it story appropriate that that can happen but has a possibility of a negative effect.

 

Just quick responses to ideas that will help shape the course of a mod.

 

It's not about how randomly opinionated people on the forum feel about themselves. I don;t care so much about that to be honest.

 

You might like to have your vision of your mod shaped by others but not me.

[Carabosse]

 

Here's an example of how I imagined it.

 

I suggest an idea like in my mod having sex with ghouls will be prohibited. I come back later and overwhelmingly I see that people are against that. That might make me change course on that, either remove the prohibition or make it story appropriate that that can happen but has a possibility of a negative effect.

 

Just quick responses to ideas that will help shape the course of a mod.

 

It's not about how randomly opinionated people on the forum feel about themselves. I don;t care so much about that to be honest.

 

You might like to have your vision of your mod shaped by others but not me.

 

 

Maybe it could be something you enable when you upload the mod.

 

edit: As an aside. You're not bound by what appeals to the majority. It's still interesting to know what they prefer (and what they don't)

[Content Consumer]

I think you're probably stuck with polls. They're really not that bad... but I completely understand the work involved. I am well known (to myself anyway) as someone who'd rather avoid typing an extra five keys and clicking the mouse more than once or twice max.

[RitualClarity]

It seems like you are looking for is the Poll options that are available. YOu can get positive and negative feedback from that.

I belong to some sites that have negative rep.. the moderators have to do more work when this is happening as some abuse the rep system. At least when you abuse it in the positive you can give more happiness and positive feeling. Abuse neg rep.. bring the thread and the site down more.

[Carabosse]

Polls put me off, like I'm trying to capture attention. I'd prefer it was more organic, you can't (shouldn't!) poll every little idea you have.

[Kendo 2]

It's a terrible idea.  On every forum I've been on that has an up-vote/down vote feature it ends up being a weapon wielded by forum cliques.  In the same way friends here up-vote each others posts now, they would do the same thing with down-votes; dog-piling on people they don't agree with.  It would be one more way for people to be chickenshit on the internet.  Nexus tried this same insanity 4 or 5 years ago and it was a disaster; vigilante hate posses, people down-voting mod author posts in their own support threads, and other stupidity.

 

There's no need to fix something that already works.  Leave things the way they are now; if someone posts something that strikes your fancy then you can up-vote it.  If you don't like what someone says then tough shit.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

I remember when Nexus had it and people abused the down vote. Saw this a whole lot with the male body replacers years ago. The down vote is just a negative feature to add. Youtube is a fine example of that. People just hating to hate.

[Carabosse]

It's a terrible idea.  On every forum I've been on that has an up-vote/down vote feature it ends up being a weapon wielded by forum cliques.  In the same way friends here up-vote each others posts now, they would do the same thing with down-votes; dog-piling on people they don't agree with.  It would be one more way for people to be chickenshit on the internet.  Nexus tried this same insanity 4 or 5 years ago and it was a disaster; vigilante hate posses, people down-voting mod author posts in their own support threads, and other stupidity.

 

There's no need to fix something that already works.  Leave things the way they are now; if someone posts something that strikes your fancy then you can up-vote it.  If you don't like what someone says then tough shit.

 

Kendo! Make me a piece of headgear armour for my Fallout mod. Pleeeaaassseee!!!

[gregathit]

As has been stated several times, the abuse that would take place is not worth any benefit (if there even would be any).

I'm going to have to go with what Kendo2 has stated above, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  

[Carabosse]

Does no one see the romanticized version of it where a mod creator can look back on their comments and plot a general course heading on which to recalibrate their mod?

 

Or are you all too cynical and Internet hardened to ever accept that such a thing might exist?

[myuhinny]

I agree having negative down votes would just be more work for moderators that would have to constantly watch for abuse. I have seen it many times on other sites you go to a page with comments and the first 20 comments have a negative (probably from the same troll) the one site though if you up vote it that will cause the negative down vote to be removed.

 

Also there are already enough whiners of the up vote system adding down voting would just add to that whiner list and I see no reason to add more drama that isn't needed.

[WidowPuppy]

In my experience, a lot of people will downvote out of outright jealousy or to keep their File/Level Design, whatever it may be in whatever case up higher than someone else's. I've seen this voting/rating system destroy certain games with user created content that were once good, and after those systems were implemented in sequels, it all went downhill from there. There's enough bullshit credit going to people/topics/trending on almost every major social media site, leave that sh!t outta here. Allow the haters to simply not upvote as is, having no negative affect on someone's hard work. And the people who enjoy the files, or whatever it may be... can upvote/rate accordingly. This in turn results in a more accurate rating to at least help determine the quality of the actual upload.

[Carabosse]

Are there ways around excessive downvotes? I've not thought much about the problem but I am not a defeatist by nature. Could you have a pool that your upvotes and downvotes were taken from limiting your ability?

 

I also think that maybe I was unclear in suggesting it be a site wide policy. What if it were limited to mod support topics?