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Posted
7 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

on a unrelated note does anybody here still use the 2 older slave camps, layam's original or the alternate texture

I, for one, do not (why would I? I have HSH and AYGAS.)

Posted
1 hour ago, Psalam said:

I, for one, do not (why would I? I have HSH and AYGAS.)

aygas is preferable, but its only caveat is that so many refuse to buy the slave(sorry, not interested)...aside from the aygas auctions, but those don't occur very often. hsh is nice also, but you need to be there before and at midnite to sell

3 minutes ago, fred200 said:

I have not used any slave camps since Layam's day. I consider them problematic. And I have HSH.

Related note: Any word of / from Musje?

haven't heard from her in a coon's age, rumor has it she's working on zaz9

Posted (edited)

update 8.1.7Le:

  • fixes to the dwarven suits plugin for leash collars becoming broken devious collars
  • reverse pick-pocket enslavement rope added in devious and non-devious versions based on whether you have the dwarven suits plugin installed
  • clean up of duplicate sounds and voices and meshes and textures
  • new bsa for the remaining sounds and voices not included in original paradise halls
  • clean up of unused gender properties
  • additional combat changes (hopefully to fix problems reported by @Nonseen
  • sexlab gender is now optional (off by default to fix incorrect gender bug)
  • follow me dialogue for young and eager voices updated to improve their response based on their training levels of submission or respect with option to punish the disobedient slaves
  • disobedient and defiant added to punishment reasons
On 10/26/2022 at 12:01 PM, Psalam said:

I don't think I've done oral but I've done the other two with the same results. Please note, it also does it when I insist on sex as punishment when I don't get those choices.

hoping this clears it

Edited by CliftonJD
Posted

Trying to use sex as punishment doesn't do anything. Nothing happens at all, I realize this is a new build from my old one. Am I missing something with this new build?

Posted

The fucking punishment and the fucking after Okay Slave dialogue aren't working. I thought it's because i installed the recommended mods for this, they're Home sweet home, and PAH and you get slave. So which one is to be installed first?

Posted
5 hours ago, moebius989 said:

Trying to use sex as punishment doesn't do anything. Nothing happens at all, I realize this is a new build from my old one. Am I missing something with this new build?

 

1 hour ago, gagarann said:

The fucking punishment and the fucking after Okay Slave dialogue aren't working. I thought it's because i installed the recommended mods for this, they're Home sweet home, and PAH and you get slave. So which one is to be installed first?

I reported these. Try the newest build (see 3 posts above for details).

Posted
2 hours ago, Psalam said:

 

I reported these. Try the newest build (see 3 posts above for details).

I did try the newest build, still doesnt work. But thanks for reporting it. I'm looking forward to it :)

Posted
12 minutes ago, gagarann said:

I did try the newest build, still doesnt work. But thanks for reporting it. I'm looking forward to it :)

Just to be clear - you downloaded version 8.1.7 that was uploaded to LL less than 24 hours ago (as of this posting)?

Posted (edited)

Hey CliftonJD, I been reading along. I experienced the same things as others where oral, or other selections do nothing. besides all that the only thing odd to me was in the pahe selections I always had use sexlab genders, now in the MCM it is ticked off and seems to be force to skyrim genders???? It refuses to toggle back to Sexlab Genders as an option.

I rebuilt SL loader thinking something was turned off or dropped but was not it.

Could that be the problem if it goes to select which sex is which and returns no sex for either PC and BPC and does nothing like its filtered out? I have not looked into "Skyrim Genders" if it is in some other mod I have installed or maybe I am missing that function from another mod?

When I get home I will look deeper at it myself and maybe try resetting sexlab in game or other things. 

Edited by ragnam
Posted
5 hours ago, gagarann said:

I did try the newest build, still doesnt work. But thanks for reporting it. I'm looking forward to it :)

can you try or have you tried the new sexlab gender option, does it effect your results any

2 hours ago, ragnam said:

Hey CliftonJD, I been reading along. I experienced the same things as others where oral, or other selections do nothing. besides all that the only thing odd to me was in the pahe selections I always had use sexlab genders, now in the MCM it is ticked off and seems to be force to skyrim genders????

I rebuilt SL loader thinking something was turned off or dropped but was not it.

Could that be the problem if it goes to select which sex is which and returns no sex for either PC and BPC and does nothing like its filtered out? I have not looked into "Skyrim Genders" if it is in some other mod I have installed or maybe I am missing that function from another mod?

When I get home I will look deeper at it myself and maybe try resetting sexlab in game or other things. 

the sexlab gender option in pahe is new, it was automatically on for version 8.1.6, but due to the problems with no sex from slaves or incorrect genders i made it optional. by default it is now off, but you may enable it from mcm to test it...if it works for you, welcome to leave it enabled.

 

what has me puzzled the most by this is that only Le is having any issues with it

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

can you try or have you tried the new sexlab gender option, does it effect your results any

the sexlab gender option in pahe is new, it was automatically on for version 8.1.6, but due to the problems with no sex from slaves or incorrect genders i made it optional. by default it is now off, but you may enable it from mcm to test it...if it works for you, welcome to leave it enabled.

 

what has me puzzled the most by this is that only Le is having any issues with it

8.1.7
"does it effect your results any ...  leave it enabled"
For me thats is the issue. It installed with IT DISABLED, so it is defaulting to Skyrim Genders. It refuses to allow me to select it to use sexlab genders.
( I dont know if others can enable/disable it, nobody mentioned it that I saw.)

I Tried resetting sexlabs,  I reset Pahe in the mcm also, no dice. I Performed a 2 different clean saves and back in game still no dice on either save. 

Yes I am on LE too. all the other dialogue commands works fine, stripe, pleasure me or pleasure yourself. 

the one prior to 8.1.6 worked and no issue. I did not really get to test 8.1.6 since I was doing other quests and seeing 8.1.7 came out so quick, I immediately upgraded to it. That's when I went back to my parked slaves and had the issue playing around with them.

Puzzled? I doubt it could it be something as a typo in the script caller  zero for an Oh, if it was like a missing comma, then I am sure the code would failed. Wondering is there anything that could miss direct a command without throwing an error? or a catch all in the code to just Null ignore the request if it does not have a matching result selected to randomly pick from?

you need to be punished....

To me it seems to be running, but with no error codes, its just ignoring the command to select the next something.
I will try to claim a new slave and see if it does anything different from the older slaves, but doubt it.

 

Edited by ragnam
Posted
27 minutes ago, ragnam said:

8.1.7
"does it effect your results any ...  leave it enabled"
For me thats is the issue. It installed with IT DISABLED, so it is defaulting to Skyrim Genders. It refuses to allow me to select it to use sexlab genders.
( I dont know if others can enable/disable it, nobody mentioned it that I saw.)

I Tried resetting sexlabs,  I reset Pahe in the mcm also, no dice. I Performed a 2 different clean saves and back in game still no dice on either save. 

Yes I am on LE too. all the other dialogue commands works fine, stripe, pleasure me or pleasure yourself. 

the one prior to 8.1.6 worked and no issue. I did not really get to test 8.1.6 since I was doing other quests and seeing 8.1.7 came out so quick, I immediately upgraded to it. That's when I went back to my parked slaves and had the issue playing around with them.

Puzzled? I doubt it could it be something as a typo in the script caller  zero for an Oh, if it was like a missing comma, then I am sure the code would failed. Wondering is there anything that could miss direct a command without throwing an error? or a catch all in the code to just Null ignore the request if it does not have a matching result selected to randomly pick from?

you need to be punished....

To me it seems to be running, but with no error codes, its just ignoring the command to select the next something.
I will try to claim a new slave and see if it does anything different from the older slaves, but doubt it.

 

that's what has me confused, its the same exact script i use in Se with no issues at all. 

Posted
On 10/28/2022 at 5:12 PM, CliftonJD said:

update 8.1.7Le:

  • fixes to the dwarven suits plugin for leash collars becoming broken devious collars
  • reverse pick-pocket enslavement rope added in devious and non-devious versions based on whether you have the dwarven suits plugin installed
  • clean up of duplicate sounds and voices and meshes and textures
  • new bsa for the remaining sounds and voices not included in original paradise halls
  • clean up of unused gender properties
  • additional combat changes (hopefully to fix problems reported by @Nonseen
  • sexlab gender is now optional (off by default to fix incorrect gender bug)
  • follow me dialogue for young and eager voices updated to improve their response based on their training levels of submission or respect with option to punish the disobedient slaves
  • disobedient and defiant added to punishment reasons

hoping this clears it

I done a quick conversion of LE version to SE to test my self. ( using CAO and CK to convert paradisehalls.esm and the extansation file, plus all bsa).

 

the fresh captured bandits produce same strange behavior. After capture if attacked they fight back, a archer i captured started attack the enemy if not get attacked.

During my very quick test i attempted do sex traning but my conversation failed to call Sex Lab Framework( i know my conversaion probably going to faulty). 

 

So take this very quick test result with a grain of salt.

 

i hope this help somewhat do devlop this fantastic mod :)

i know my test far from perfect :(

 

in my test i used  same load order and mods as my last bigger test, only change i not used other than pahe core install.

 

to do the test i started new game and used alternate start-riverwood patreon start.

 

maybe intresting papyrus log parts:

First one one new game start:

Spoiler

[10/30/2022 - 01:04:43PM] VM is thawing...
[10/30/2022 - 01:05:57PM] ERROR: Type mismatch for argument 1. 
stack:
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SetProperties() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:06:03PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:06:03PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:37PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:37PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?

 

attemptying start sex with slaves:

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Nonseen said:

I done a quick conversion of LE version to SE to test my self. ( using CAO and CK to convert paradisehalls.esm and the extansation file, plus all bsa).

 

the fresh captured bandits produce same strange behavior. After capture if attacked they fight back, a archer i captured started attack the enemy if not get attacked.

During my very quick test i attempted do sex traning but my conversation failed to call Sex Lab Framework( i know my conversaion probably going to faulty). 

 

So take this very quick test result with a grain of salt.

 

i hope this help somewhat do devlop this fantastic mod :)

i know my test far from perfect :(

 

in my test i used  same load order and mods as my last bigger test, only change i not used other than pahe core install.

 

to do the test i started new game and used alternate start-riverwood patreon start.

 

maybe intresting papyrus log parts:

First one one new game start:

  Reveal hidden contents

[10/30/2022 - 01:04:43PM] VM is thawing...
[10/30/2022 - 01:05:57PM] ERROR: Type mismatch for argument 1. 
stack:
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SetProperties() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:06:03PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:06:03PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:33PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:37PM] ERROR: Property sexlab_gender not found on pahcore. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 01:07:37PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.UpdateOptionsPage() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.OnPageReset() - "pah_mcm.psc" Line ?
    [PAHConfig (12009157)].pah_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line ?
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (11000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnPageSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line ?

 

attemptying start sex with slaves:

 

ok, out of curiosity then, could you test something special for me:

  • keep the LE scripts you have installed, but if its possible to retry pahcore...
  • use the older esp from Se version 8.1.6

this should help to atleast narrow it down to a problem with the esp or not

Posted
On 10/27/2022 at 7:48 AM, CliftonJD said:

on a unrelated note does anybody here still use the 2 older slave camps, layam's original or the alternate texture

I know I don't, I gave up on fellglow slave camp as a whole after the Jerrek guy refused to path to wherever he goes when you tell him you have a slave to sell. I was trying the original I think. this was in version 8.1.6 I  think.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Khe said:

I know I don't, I gave up on fellglow slave camp as a whole after the Jerrek guy refused to path to wherever he goes when you tell him you have a slave to sell. I was trying the original I think. this was in version 8.1.6 I  think.

camp has always had trouble if you start the save using 1 version and try switching camps mid-save

Posted
21 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

camp has always had trouble if you start the save using 1 version and try switching camps mid-save

didn't switch camps. this save has seen 2 versions of PAHE though.

Posted

Im curious what nonseen might find out if he tries your last request.

Mean while I was looking at 8.1.6 vs 8.1.7 zip build, most files are the same exact size. but
noticed PAHPunishmentRapeScript.pex in 8.1.6 is 14,357 kb and in 8.1.7 size is 14,383 kb 

then last noticed 8.1.6 has a souce folder holding all the scipts like PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc
but the 8.1.7 does not have a souce folder in the scipt level in its zip build.
 

not sure if that is on purpose reverting SE stuff to LE or something overlooking, or that its not needed anymore?

Posted
5 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

ok, out of curiosity then, could you test something special for me:

  • keep the LE scripts you have installed, but if its possible to retry pahcore...
  • use the older esp from Se version 8.1.6

this should help to atleast narrow it down to a problem with the esp or not

i made a quick test run as requested fallowing things changed:

 

paradisehalls.esm replaced a file from pahe 8.1.6 SE version

 

same result in slaves activity after capture all slaves eager to fight.

 

i thinking trying out esm from pahe 8.1.4 or older version this 8,1,6 version i first observed this behavior.

 

dont know important or not, i checked the papyrus logs for any pahe related things found the fallowings:

start up time:

Spoiler

[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Type mismatch for argument 1. 
stack:
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SetProperties() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

loading game after all mod installed and set up, probably expected error message on boot.

Spoiler

[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

 

Posted
On 10/30/2022 at 2:32 PM, Khe said:

didn't switch camps. this save has seen 2 versions of PAHE though.

hmm, that's odd

On 10/30/2022 at 4:03 PM, ragnam said:

Im curious what nonseen might find out if he tries your last request.

Mean while I was looking at 8.1.6 vs 8.1.7 zip build, most files are the same exact size. but
noticed PAHPunishmentRapeScript.pex in 8.1.6 is 14,357 kb and in 8.1.7 size is 14,383 kb 

then last noticed 8.1.6 has a souce folder holding all the scipts like PAHPunishmentRapeScript.psc
but the 8.1.7 does not have a souce folder in the scipt level in its zip build.
 

not sure if that is on purpose reverting SE stuff to LE or something overlooking, or that its not needed anymore?

source folder moved to the bsa to clean up the loose files

On 10/30/2022 at 4:35 PM, Nonseen said:

i made a quick test run as requested fallowing things changed:

 

paradisehalls.esm replaced a file from pahe 8.1.6 SE version

 

same result in slaves activity after capture all slaves eager to fight.

 

i thinking trying out esm from pahe 8.1.4 or older version this 8,1,6 version i first observed this behavior.

 

dont know important or not, i checked the papyrus logs for any pahe related things found the fallowings:

start up time:

  Reveal hidden contents

[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Type mismatch for argument 1. 
stack:
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SetProperties() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

loading game after all mod installed and set up, probably expected error message on boot.

  Reveal hidden contents

[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

 

use paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp from 8.1.6Se, everything else from Le, test the sex dialogue options with this setup. for some reason Le sex doesn't work in pahe

Posted
2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:
On 10/30/2022 at 10:35 PM, Nonseen said:

i made a quick test run as requested fallowing things changed:

 

paradisehalls.esm replaced a file from pahe 8.1.6 SE version

 

same result in slaves activity after capture all slaves eager to fight.

 

i thinking trying out esm from pahe 8.1.4 or older version this 8,1,6 version i first observed this behavior.

 

dont know important or not, i checked the papyrus logs for any pahe related things found the fallowings:

start up time:

  Reveal hidden contents

[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Type mismatch for argument 1. 
stack:
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SetProperties() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:25:22PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnBootstrap() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.SendBootstrapEvents() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.Boot() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
    [PAHBootStrap0_7_3 (0E00CF32)].pahbootstrapscript.OnUpdate() - "pahbootstrapscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

loading game after all mod installed and set up, probably expected error message on boot.

  Reveal hidden contents

[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to pahslave[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetSlaveArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
[10/30/2022 - 10:26:21PM] ERROR: Cannot cast from None to String[]
stack:
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.GetStringArrayLength() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.updateSlaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveArray() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.slaveMaintenance() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahcore.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahcore.psc" Line ?
    [alias Player on quest PAH (0E01FAEF)].pahplayerscript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "pahplayerscript.psc" Line ?
 

 

 

Expand  

use paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp from 8.1.6Se, everything else from Le, test the sex dialogue options with this setup. for some reason Le sex doesn't work in pahe

As requested i run the test. Same result as before.

 

Log about it:

 

After this test i attempted a different aproach, replaced all esp and esm to pahe 8.1.6SE version. result a bit different this case.

 

 

after this i checked the source of SE and LE version of this script fragment. to me look same.

then checked the file size of the actual in use script files.

in case of PAHE 8-1-7 the file size is: 965 byte

in case of PAHE 8-1-6 SE version, file size :  963 byte

 

dont know why this 2 byte difference, or what cause it.

to chek out my theory i oweritten the script file come with  pahe 8-1-7 LE to one that come with pahe 8-1-6 SE version. after this the slave sex started work.

tested it with esm and esp's that come with pahe 8-1-7 LE version and i converted. It seems wrking sex starts, slaves get sex traning.

 

i tested this functions out with a male and female slave. both get trained after used: ok slave->going to fuck you-> all options used at least once.

 

i put here the script file that working for me so other users that use LE can test it with LE everiment.

 

PAHE8-1-6-Working-scripts.zip

 

I hope this help locate and fix the issues. :)

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Nonseen said:

As requested i run the test. Same result as before.

 

Log about it:

 

After this test i attempted a different aproach, replaced all esp and esm to pahe 8.1.6SE version. result a bit different this case.

 

 

after this i checked the source of SE and LE version of this script fragment. to me look same.

then checked the file size of the actual in use script files.

in case of PAHE 8-1-7 the file size is: 965 byte

in case of PAHE 8-1-6 SE version, file size :  963 byte

 

dont know why this 2 byte difference, or what cause it.

to chek out my theory i oweritten the script file come with  pahe 8-1-7 LE to one that come with pahe 8-1-6 SE version. after this the slave sex started work.

tested it with esm and esp's that come with pahe 8-1-7 LE version and i converted. It seems wrking sex starts, slaves get sex traning.

 

i tested this functions out with a male and female slave. both get trained after used: ok slave->going to fuck you-> all options used at least once.

 

i put here the script file that working for me so other users that use LE can test it with LE everiment.

 

820 B · 1 download PAHE8-1-6-Working-scripts.zip

 

I hope this help locate and fix the issues. :)

makes no sense to me either, but thank you for catching it. :)

the odd part there was that the 2 source files were the same, but the script should be different for the newer version. they had or should have the same script in version 8.1.6Le as 8.1.6Se. if you want to try sharing the same script from Se to Le, experiment with porting version 8.1.6Le to Se. test what happens with a direct port first, then if sex fails to work as expected, try swapping the script with the Se version of it

 

Edited by CliftonJD
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

makes no sense to me either, but thank you for catching it. :)

the odd part there was that the 2 source files were the same, but the script should be different for the newer version. they had or should have the same script in version 8.1.6Le as 8.1.6Se. if you want to try sharing the same script from Se to Le, experiment with porting version 8.1.6Le to Se. test what happens with a direct port first, then if sex fails to work as expected, try swapping the script with the Se version of it

 

as requested the test done. Same result as 8.1.7.

 

I started thinking maybe the source of problems i using SexLab Framework 1.63, but for LE the 1.62 version need to be used. 

To check this out i planning to compile the script that not working.

 

As not expereinced in scripting and how to compile i run some difficulties. The moment of writing i working on it. May update this post if a make advance.

 

Edit:

Found sources of my problems i going to write a blog post about it... its long story. and good example, great learning experience :D .

I think i going to do the complie tomorow i need organize few script source files...

Edited by Nonseen

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