Maria Eden

[rjn]

3 hours ago, seanthiar said:

 

 

Another thing apart from the rant above - my personal opinion about the voices. I wished while playing there were an option to disable them. Every women that's part of the mod got the same voice, for the men where two voices. Not much better.  The voices and accentuation sounded like a news reader in the TV and the german sentences (remember I'm a native german) could be of a much better variant. Watch a few adult movies (no soft porn) for getting an idea. 

If you read back a ways you'll find that the voices are generated by simulator software and for that -- "not too bad".  There is so much dialog there wasn't a better choice.  If you truly hate it turn on subtitles and delete the maria eden voice files in the Sound folder.

 

A while back I posted advice on how a beginner could still have some fun with this mod: 

 

[seanthiar]

That still solves not the problem why on an english installation when installing the mod in english are german soundfiles installed ? BTW subtitles are by default on for me because some mods don't have sound output and need the subtitles. And that was my thinking would be the same in Maria Eden -> english=no sound and not english=german sound. Different language different or no soundfile. Deleting is no problem but normally it's a thing the installer should do by not copying the file if not german.

 

But that was not the main problem - the main problem is that the quests don't work with a heavy kick in the a... and the cause is belike that the mod is not integrated in the skyrim quest system. If you could use the known console workarounds for fixing a quest it would not be ok but acceptable. At the moment I wouldn't even know how to fix the clothes-problem in the brothel-quest without intensive time-consuming investigating. And that is not the only problem and to find a workaround for every problem needs time to find it. And every quest I started in Maria Eden got a problem that caused the quest to stop. With the console you only need 3 simple commands - 1. list the quests, 2. list the stages for the quest you're interested in and 3. set the stage one up - time not even a minute for a workaround if a quest is buggy.

[PurpleDeep]

The advice given by rjn and jc321 solves most things. The clothes problem in the brothel quest is fixed by selecting your outfits through the MCM menu before starting the quest.

I think Maria Eden quests are quite complex, so using the console to simply set the stages of each quest to complete will make everything even buggier, and I'm sure that if there had been a far easier way to do all this just with quests, it would have been implemented that way.

 

As additional advice (don't know if you do this already):

- I recommend using Mod Organizer, and putting ME in a separate profile only with the necessary mods.

- Use ZAZ Animation pack 6.11, and not the current one.

- Only use the plugins that work for your version of ME (see description).

 

With this in mind, and the other suggestions from rjn and jc321 everything should work relatively well, and using the console should not be necessary.

[braatgaard_dk]

On 5/30/2019 at 11:07 AM, zaira said:

I have checked the code of XPO and PetProject - there is nothing that would help. XPO does not have entry and exit detection at all - it just recognizes door activation and PetProject has a set of fixed coordinates based on known cells.

 

Both are not an option. My scenery is: the victim has bound hands - the jailer walks to the door opener position, opens the door and give the order to enter or leave the jail. The scene is suspended until the victim has entered or left a trigger box.

 

This is a typical scene that occurs often. And this scenery stucks often because my old formulars where insufficient for non-cage-doors.

 

Here is an example:

1. The door
2. Marker moved to door -> marker.MoveTo(door)
3. Move marker to the opposite side of the door on X -> ???
4. Move marker to the opposite side of the door on Y -> ???
5. Rotate marker to face the opposite side of the door  -> marker.RotateTo(door.Angle)

I know nothing about scripting but a bit of trigonometry. In your sketch, the edge of the door would be at (all pseudocode)
X: door.X + cosinus(door.Angle) * "door width" 

and
Y: door.Y + sinus(door.Angle) *  "door width" 

 

To get the slight offset step 4 indicates, add or subtract a small amount, maybe 5 degrees, to the door angle (in figure it should be added). Tricky part: should the 5 degress be added or subtracted to be on right side of door? Maybe you can just calculate both and use whatever is closer to the cell interior if that is known, or farthest from the jailer.

[shiagwen]

This month ended a weel ago, this year ended 5 month ago, this life ended .....

[virland]

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

This month ended a weel ago, this year ended 5 month ago, this life ended .....

Despite all the whining, you are most faithful fan of this mod.

[mazz89]

@zaira Did you resolve the cage issue? I am up for some beta testing.?

[Warmsusu1995]

ok I did the plugin mod then maria eden main mod then the English ver then skipped the ones I already had then I started game then I crashed

I need help >.<

[AtlantisJoe]

Hey Guys

 

I've been trying to get his mod working for a few hours now. Instant CTD during load on any save and I don't know what to try next.

 

I've tried just bare bones. No optional ESPs just the main esp and english override. Fail

Learned how to use Bash Patch and ran it to see if it helped. Fail

I've tried installing with optional ESPs. Downloaded the plugins and placed before and after main ESP. Fail.

Tried tweaking the load order all sorts of ways. Fail

EDIT : I did also try the Maria Eden Prostitution mod, that all in one install. Still Fail

 

I know ME isn't compatible with a few DD mods like devious cursed loot. Don't have those mods just the basic DD mods. AKA DDa DDi DDx, plus captured dreams.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

 

I really tried figuring this out myself as I come here for content and help but don't give back. Don't like doing that. But I do support a good number of contributors on Patreon, regardless any help will be SUPER APPRECIATED

 

[zaira]

I dropped the generic cage / jail door idea - even with the support of some professional math dr.s I was not able to establish a stable system. I think there are some bugs in the engine since the formulars I used for coordinate transformations were definitly correct.

 

So all my location based mods will do cell edits (adding invisible markers). Something I wanted to avoid since I started modding. But nowadays I don't expect so much collsions anymore - the mod market has cooled down.

 

There are reaons for the long delay with next MEP:

My main motiviation for modding is having fun, my real live needs more and more time. I never had the intention to turn this into a business with release cycles, support and bugfixing.

But if you follow this forum, you will find that many people expect a product - with release cycles, support and bugfixing. I am unable and unwilling to deliver such a product.

I am building something that I have fun with and share it with you without any obligation that it also works for you and it is fun for you.

 

There where many many versions for the internal test team since years now and I avoided to release them to public because of this product expectation by many of you.

[BigOnes69]

11 hours ago, zaira said:

I dropped the generic cage / jail door idea - even with the support of some professional math dr.s I was not able to establish a stable system. I think there are some bugs in the engine since the formulars I used for coordinate transformations were definitly correct.

 

So all my location based mods will do cell edits (adding invisible markers). Something I wanted to avoid since I started modding. But nowadays I don't expect so much collsions anymore - the mod market has cooled down.

 

There are reaons for the long delay with next MEP:

My main motiviation for modding is having fun, my real live needs more and more time. I never had the intention to turn this into a business with release cycles, support and bugfixing.

But if you follow this forum, you will find that many people expect a product - with release cycles, support and bugfixing. I am unable and unwilling to deliver such a product.

I am building something that I have fun with and share it with you without any obligation that it also works for you and it is fun for you.

 

There where many many versions for the internal test team since years now and I avoided to release them to public because of this product expectation by many of you.

Most of the prior problems stemmed from control issues from mods conflicting with one another whether through going in different directions or personality conflicts. Most of the mods went in the direction of devices taking the center stage. I liked your mod because it centered on sex and controlling the character through sex and the sex business. The only real draw back was the night control which conflicted with adventuring. I would have liked to seen more mission based adventures creating political and monetary power for the master through utilizing the slaves sexual attributes and skills. We talked about this several years back and you found my ideas interesting.

I have been in the modding community for many years and have seen the change in expectation of results and the modders are in part to blame. Most are here for recognition rather than having fun and I think you are guilty to an extent for this yourself. Take a step back and start enjoying what you are doing. Think about an approach that will satisfy your creation impulse for to back off it totally would be harmfull in of itself also. I look forward to seeing your stuff in the near or far future.

[jc321]

I would have thought if you posted them in a new topic with a large disclaimer 'No support whatsoever' and didn't participate in the topic discussion then it would make it clear to those downloading what to expect. 

 

Some people found an unreleased version of DFW (on GIthub) which the author never commented on and hasn't sparked a massive onslaught of people demanding support, but those who are willing to play and don't care very much about their setup have added it to their load order (yes, me included and accept the faults).

 

I would love to see your previous iterations, but I've never demanded support or even expect it, I even still play your earliest versions on occasions and accept, that as other mods and dependencies change, it may break it. 

 

I'd like to think that those that demand support and expect a trouble free mod are in the minority whereas the majority appreciate the amazing effort that goes into these mods and can understand why (with so many people with different spec'd machines and configurations) that things may not work 100% for everyone. 

 

Maybe you've been too helpful in the past trying to appease everyone, but I personally wouldn't demand or expect it, especially as it's something I get to enjoy for free.   

[zaira]

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Nobody expected a Business with release cycles, Support and bugfixing beyond functionality of the mod.  The community want something to play, very simple..

It was you who announced new updates and then did not make it. You always excused no bugfixing because of new Versions you are working on.  Still today the hotkey for open mouth is not fixed and this is something every modder would repair immediately in a hotfix. You did not do it. You did never react to any bugreport and repaired nothing. Now you come and critisize community expecting too much !

For the  5000 hours or so you put into Maria Eden the playable, result is no match. Still today i have to stop Maria  Eden for the bugs it causes and restart it with all the work of rewrite the slal loader.

Everybody is welcome to take over ME and fix whatever has to be fixed. Lot's of mods had several authors during their lifecycle.

Or offer a patch and I will review and integrate it.

 

As I said - I made ME for my own pleasure - and it works. Whenever I play ME and stumble over a bug I fix it.

 

[formanfred]

I for one would like to thank you Zaira for all your hard work on Maria Eden, I always use it when playing Skyrim for me its the best prostitution mod around .

[jimothyslim]

When i download Maria Eden i can no longer make a new game, it just infinitely loads. Does anyone know a fix or any known conflicting start up mods?      i think its fox club in particular because when i go near riverwood at all i crash, but even when i disable it i still have the new game issue.         

[V-Mann]

Hi all

 

Maria Eden 2.1.20160813 ENG und DEU

TES5Edit
wenn ich auf:  Check for Errors Drücke
dann habe ich  QUST fehlermeldungen <Warning: Quest Alias not found in

 

TES5Edit

Maria.esp   Check for Errors
-Magic Effect
--------------------MariaEdensOrgyCalm "Group fun" [MGEF:AD135784]

 

Virtual Machine Adapter
-FormID  Maria "Maria Eden" [QUST:AD052CE7]
-Alias   2 <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "Maria "Maria Eden" [QUST:AD052CE7]">

 

 

MariaEdensOrgyCalm "Group fun" [MGEF:AD135784]
"Maria "Maria Eden" [QUST:AD052CE7]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

MariaWhoreSell "Transport of Goods" [QUST:AD5373A9]
"MariaBuilderQuest "Builder" [QUST:AD89021A]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found
"MariaBuilderQuest "Builder" [QUST:AD89021A]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

MariaTGotoCage [PACK:ADB40C92]
"MariaTraining "Training" [QUST:ADB2A75C]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

MariaEdenComeToMasterSlow [PACK:AD2D0C86]
"Maria "Maria Eden" [QUST:AD052CE7]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

MariaTGotoJail [PACK:ADB2F69A]
"Training" [QUST:ADB2A75C]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

MariaEdensSlaveHuntFinishedScene [SCEN:AD1A9F03]
"Maria "Maria Eden" [QUST:AD052CE7]"> Warning: Quest Alias not found

 

so ich habe aus <> Warning: Quest Alias not found EIN None Gemacht. 
keine ahnung ob das richtig ist.  LOL

 

Ich frage mich soll das so sein.
Oder ist das nur bei mir.

 

THX

[Beleg Maethor]

Even though I had most of the mod working, it bugged me that auctions were just broken. I would walk out of the cell, and nothing would happen. Everything else worked as it should, although I'm not really sure what a successful install of Maria Eden looks like, I thought I was pretty close.

 

I made sure I followed the latest version's install guide to the last detail. When I first loaded it up, nothing worked. Then I turned off some plugins and then I got most of the mod to work. But as I said, auctions were broken, the dialogue option "make me the best whore in skyrim" crashed the game or just spawned me in some random place, prostitution was often buggy and while it worked for the most part there were times where it seemed as if multiple scripts triggered at once causing none of them to work properly. Those were the three main things I noticed. 

 

So what I did, thinking that I am a smart guy, I disabled EVERY mod I had and reactivated the ones I knew I NEEDED for Maria Eden to work. These mods included:

• Bannered Mare Extension (from Maria Eden page)
• Body Slide and Outfit Studio
• CBBE
• Devious Devices: Assets
• FNIS + FNIS Creature
• Foxclub
• Silent Fuz Ro Dah
• House of Burden
• Jaxonz Positioner
•  Maria Eden itself 
• METrainingAndAuctions
• Ponytail Club
• Riften Brothel
• SexLab Framework
• Skyrim Config Menu
• SkyUI
• Schlongs of Skyrim
• UIExtensions
• USLEP
• XPM32
• ZazAnimation Pack

 

When I started a new game (right with the terribly long intro), everything seemed to be working fine. I ran to a bandit camp, surrendered, and got raped to see if the mod was working properly. Nothing out of the ordinary happened except for actors getting stuck on each other causing my character to stand still while the guy humped the air. After that, I used the dialogue option "Use me as your fucktoy" and became a lust slave. I waited for that screen to pop up, pressed "Sell" AND. . . . . . . the game crashed.

 

I am out of ideas. Maria Eden always comes at me with a new problem every time I load it up.

[nameless701]

uninstall " House of Burden ",the newer version is "METrainingAndAuctions "

 

House of Burden is for MariaEden2.0 only,METrainingAndAuctions is for MariaEden2.1

[Beleg Maethor]

22 hours ago, nameless701 said:

uninstall " House of Burden ",the newer version is "METrainingAndAuctions "

 

House of Burden is for MariaEden2.0 only,METrainingAndAuctions is for MariaEden2.1

Thank you, I got it working. Is it possible for you to help with the German voices though? I can't reliably get google translate to work, and it's kinda hard being a slave when you don't know what is being said to you. 

[koukasa]

i need this mod for special so hurry can you handle it?

[Jappa123]

To be clear we wont see an update before zap 9.0 release right? 

[V-Mann]

5 hours ago, Jappa123 said:

To be clear we wont see an update before zap 9.0 release? 

<Warning: Quest Alias not found in "Maria "Maria Eden"

[Zor2k13]

I totally missed the point of this option in maria eden mod which caused it to not show some animations in the selection screen but... well just turn off the sexlab pre filtering option under maria eden options screen and then all your anims will show like for example anubs magik dildo it is actually spelled that way. I thought my install was past an anim limit but no it was just an option selected thats all.

 

I really wish there was dialogue to screw a whore when the player asks a maria eden whore if she is a whore. The only options there I can find are no thanks and ask to be a whore and ask to buy the whore freedom.

[koukasa]

dresser doesn t work even i play with free

[romasty]

I had a known problem with ctd when loading a saved game. I tried to solve it for a long time but nothing worked... But then i resolved it quite by accident!

It seemed to me wrong that Maria Eden forcibly starts Sexlab. I disabled this option in \Data\SKSE\Plugins\StorageUtilData\mariadefaults.json and started new game.

I don't know why, but it worked, ctd were no longer after loading. I hope it might be useful for someone with the same issue.