Immersive Hair Growth and Styling (YPS Devious & Immersive Fashion 2025-06-08)

[Elvenlover]

3 hours ago, Balgin said:

That occurred with the last update or two. Originally the debuff was stacking with things like walking (default, Caps Lock) and a few other things it should not have been interacting with. Now it does not double penalise at times when it should not but the downside is that we get this odd little speed boost while the game adjusts for a second or two when changing footwear. It's a side affect of the new way it's being applied as opposed to the old way that it was done.

That's a shame. I personally find it rather annoying to be fast for a second and then beeing slowed down tbh.

[emily1673]

18 hours ago, Elvenlover said:

That's a shame. I personally find it rather annoying to be fast for a second and then beeing slowed down tbh.

This is understandable.

But it is more annoying when the speed buffs add in a way that makes the player totally unable to move. (Which happens due to a Skyrim bug.)

[Elvenlover]

6 hours ago, emily1673 said:

This is understandable.

But it is more annoying when the speed buffs add in a way that makes the player totally unable to move. (Which happens due to a Skyrim bug.)

Yeah, you're right, of course.

Since we're already speaking about the HH system, do you still got my idea on the to-do list?
I suggested awhile ago, that you could alter the speed debuff for certain heights of the heels, since it should be easier to walk in lower heels than in higher heels, which could make bondage boots from DD more interesting and challenging btw if on low skill.

[IsThisADream]

Would balicha's stockings be a good fit to integrate into YPS? It has garter belts, which YPS currently doesn't have.

[emily1673]

On 11/7/2024 at 4:54 PM, KentuckyExpat said:

The beauty of it is that when an inconsistency like this, if pointed out to Emily, it can result in her making the change. After all, one of the most enjoyable parts of a mod like this is the ability for the player to immerse him/herself in the game. Some while back Emily posted a message that she would appreciate input like this so that she could make the game more enjoyable. Some of us have taken her up on this generous offer.

 

On 11/7/2024 at 9:02 PM, ArgyleSmith said:

Sounds like we're on the same page, as expected.
 

The changes in dialogue were done as first steps for the upcoming body morph feature. After that feature is in, it should be more consistent.

But the quest is so complex, so I am afraid I won't be able to catch (much less to fix) all inconsistencies.

 

17 hours ago, Elvenlover said:

Yeah, you're right, of course.

Since we're already speaking about the HH system, do you still got my idea on the to-do list?
I suggested awhile ago, that you could alter the speed debuff for certain heights of the heels, since it should be easier to walk in lower heels than in higher heels, which could make bondage boots from DD more interesting and challenging btw if on low skill.

Yes, it's on my extremely long to-do list. But looking at my current development speed, I don't know whether I can implement this.

 

4 hours ago, IsThisADream said:

Would balicha's stockings be a good fit to integrate into YPS? It has garter belts, which YPS currently doesn't have.

Certainly would be a good thing. Easiest would be just to replace the texture files of the stockings with those with garter belts. Would you be able to create such a patch? That would be perfect.

[ebbluminous]

3 hours ago, emily1673 said:

 

The changes in dialogue were done as first steps for the upcoming body morph feature. After that feature is in, it should be more consistent.

But the quest is so complex, so I am afraid I won't be able to catch (much less to fix) all inconsistencies.

 

 

Theres a body morph feature coming? o_O

 

Tell me more!

[ebbluminous]

8 hours ago, IsThisADream said:

Would balicha's stockings be a good fit to integrate into YPS? It has garter belts, which YPS currently doesn't have.

I do manually add the garter with Slave Tats atm. Been forgetting to mention that mod on here for an age...

[emily1673]

On 11/6/2024 at 10:08 PM, KentuckyExpat said:

Also, consider that if the bra was simply to give him the appearance of breasts, why is it a bra "made of an unknown metal" and why is it necessary for it to be locked on his chest? A simple cotton bra, stuffed with padding, would suffice if all that was wanted was to give the illusion of breasts.

And here is the reason, why the bra must be locked on the breasts: If the player would be able to remove it, it would show fully developed breasts of the chosen body. But when the bra is locked, we can at least pretend that the breasts are still flat and encased by empty metal cups.

When the body morphing update comes (soonish), the breasts will indeed be flat -- but experience shows, that many users will be unable to get the body morph feature working. That's why the bra will still be locked in the quest in the player also after the next update.

Edited November 10, 2024 by emily1673

[emily1673]

6 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

Theres a body morph feature coming? o_O

 

Tell me more!

I already did above. After switching to female form, player starts out with flat breasts and an androgynous body form. Breasts (and butt) will grow over time when taking the hormones, and at the end of the quest reach the fully developed size.

I have a working prototype already, but need to test it still.

[ebbluminous]

11 minutes ago, emily1673 said:

I already did above. After switching to female form, player starts out with flat breasts and an androgynous body form. Breasts (and butt) will grow over time when taking the hormones, and at the end of the quest reach the fully developed size.

I have a working prototype already, but need to test it still.

Aaah, part of the quest.

 

If already female characters who don't have to do the quest got hold of the hormones... That could interesting in results

[Modding_Addict]

how can I prevent yps from using specific hair mods when enabling hair control? and how do I add hair?

almost every time hair from KShairdos is used,  but I want to use more from mods like [Dint999] hairpack2.

I have tried to rename the .json file for the mods I don't want but that does not help, I have tried to out-comment some lines in ypsHairDatabase.json and that doesn't help either

and adding a .json file with the necessary name 'xxxxx.esp.json' and adding

{
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "7st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "8st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "9st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "10st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
    }

}

to it does not make it appear in game no matter how many time I reload or look through that hair catalogue book or use shampoo to change hair style

what am I missing?

[Wiwilotta]

Can anyone please make a hair mod which is basically a compilation of extremely short / buzzed / shaved (undercuts, side shaves too) styles from all other hair packs mods and make .json for YPS with it? 

[emily1673]

3 hours ago, kjergaard said:

how can I prevent yps from using specific hair mods when enabling hair control? and how do I add hair?

almost every time hair from KShairdos is used,  but I want to use more from mods like [Dint999] hairpack2.

I have tried to rename the .json file for the mods I don't want but that does not help, I have tried to out-comment some lines in ypsHairDatabase.json and that doesn't help either

and adding a .json file with the necessary name 'xxxxx.esp.json' and adding

{
    "stringList" : 
    {
        "7st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "8st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "9st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
        "10st" : ["_d02HW_39A"],
    }

}

to it does not make it appear in game no matter how many time I reload or look through that hair catalogue book or use shampoo to change hair style

what am I missing?

 

To enable/disable the usage of a certain hair mod:

- add/remove the corresponding mods from the list in ypsHairDatabase.json

(e.g. you could remove "KS Hairdo's.esp" from that list.)

 

To enable/disable the usage of certain hairstyles from a specific mod:

- add/remove the corresponding hairstyles from the list in <hairmodname.esp>.json

 

Commenting out some lines in json files does not work, because the json syntax does not allow comments.

After editing, it is recommended to check the json syntax (with jsonlint or a similar tool).

 

  

2 hours ago, Wiwilotta said:

Can anyone please make a hair mod which is basically a compilation of extremely short / buzzed / shaved (undercuts, side shaves too) styles from all other hair packs mods and make .json for YPS with it? 

Very difficult to do that. It is much easier if you just edit the hair configuration in the json files (= disable all hair mods and hairstyles you want to avoid).

 

  

3 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Aaah, part of the quest.

 

If already female characters who don't have to do the quest got hold of the hormones... That could interesting in results

There are already other mods that "enhance" the body appearance in such a way (SL hormones or BoS)

Edited November 10, 2024 by emily1673

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, emily1673 said:

There are already other mods that "enhance" the body appearance in such a way (SL hormones or BoS)

Hormones never changed the body shape for me. Eventually Morphology came out and that worked perfectly. The BOS body morphing works for me but I don't know if that's because I still have Morphology enabled, or if it manages to work on it's own. It has some odd behaviour at times 'though.

 

I hope that however Emily's planning on implementing body morphing won't mess with the way Morphology does it since that's quite reliable. Perhaps taking a look at how that mod does it might help with YPS morphing.

[emily1673]

2 hours ago, Balgin said:

Hormones never changed the body shape for me. Eventually Morphology came out and that worked perfectly. The BOS body morphing works for me but I don't know if that's because I still have Morphology enabled, or if it manages to work on it's own. It has some odd behaviour at times 'though.

 

I hope that however Emily's planning on implementing body morphing won't mess with the way Morphology does it since that's quite reliable. Perhaps taking a look at how that mod does it might help with YPS morphing.

The Body morphing prototype works well with BoS. Body morphing can also be turned off. I personally think it's a fun addition to the quest.

I never tried Morphology.

[nefer385]

Hi,

 

May need a bit of assistance.  I have both this mod and Bimbos of Skyrim by jib butkiss running.  Really enjoying the corruption and how yps is affecting it.  Ran into an issue just now.  Right before I received the quest to return the nail package to Lena and to try the nail polish on, the character's nails became painted automatically by Bimbos of Skyrim (due to Corruption/Bimbofication).  Each time I try to remove the nail polish via nail polish remover or paint over them I get a message that I am not allowed to change makeup.  I am not able to proceed with the quest at this point.  I was not able to find anything within either mod's MCM that would ignore or disable the nail polish detection.  I am sure there is a workaround that others may have found, any help would be welcomed. 

 

Only other option that I am now considering is to swap out an older YPS Fashion version, remove the polish through the nail polish remover (as long as Bimbos of Skyrim don't automatically re-assign the polish) swap in the newest YPS version again and then try to reapply the nail polish without Bimbos of Skyrim reapplying the polish.

 

If we don't have any workarounds on our end with YPS, perhaps Jib Butkiss on BoS will have a workaround for the Bimbofication.  Again, I am sure it is something that I probably missed or overlooked in one of the MCMs, any help is welcomed.  Thanks.

[KentuckyExpat]

17 hours ago, emily1673 said:

And here is the reason, why the bra must be locked on the breasts: If the player would be able to remove it, it would show fully developed breasts of the chosen body. But when the bra is locked, we can at least pretend that the breasts are still flat and encased by empty metal cups.

When the body morphing update comes (soonish), the breasts will indeed be flat -- but experience shows, that many users will be unable to get the body morph feature working. That's why the bra will still be locked in the quest in the player also after the next update.

Oh, I understand from a real life perspective that the bra needs to be locked, I was talking about it from the inside-the-game perspective where our PC supposedly doesn't have breasts until after the operation.

 

So, will the body morphing mean that there will be no Bra, at least at some later time after everyone gets their body morphing feature working properly?

Edited November 11, 2024 by KentuckyExpat
bad grammar

[nefer385]

Although I am unable to move forward with the YPS quest to first apply the nail polish.  I think the Bimbos of Skyrim mod may be the only one that can resolve the issue.  I attempted to go back to an earlier version of YPS-Fashion and it also blocked me from being able to remove the BoS nail polish or allow me to apply the YPS nail polish.  So, I carefully exited out of the game without saving and restored the most current YPS version back to my game, it was a bit of a longshot for me.

 

I am hoping to figure out the new stage quest IDs so that I can skip past all of the manicure questlines.  I really love this more fleshed out YPS Fashion mod, hell I loved all of them since the very beginning, but this is on another level, really well done!  I love how it is connected to BoS, I think in time they could really flow well together.  I guess I just ran into one of those snags where the 2 mods are competing against the other.  The last thing that I want to do is screw around with removing and re-adding mods in an active gameplay and inadvertently causing my save files to get corrupted.  

 

So, if I can get the 'set stages' dealing with the applying of the nails all the way to its conclusion of the character getting the professional manicure done, then that I feel would be the safest method at this point.  

[jib_buttkiss]

9 hours ago, emily1673 said:

The Body morphing prototype works well with BoS. Body morphing can also be turned off. I personally think it's a fun addition to the quest.

I never tried Morphology.

 

Feel free to pilfer the morphing code from Bimbos if you want. It's proved to be pretty stable, and Okshi even added SLIF compatibility in there.

 

3 hours ago, nefer385 said:

Although I am unable to move forward with the YPS quest to first apply the nail polish.  I think the Bimbos of Skyrim mod may be the only one that can resolve the issue.  I attempted to go back to an earlier version of YPS-Fashion and it also blocked me from being able to remove the BoS nail polish or allow me to apply the YPS nail polish.  So, I carefully exited out of the game without saving and restored the most current YPS version back to my game, it was a bit of a longshot for me.

 

I am hoping to figure out the new stage quest IDs so that I can skip past all of the manicure questlines.  I really love this more fleshed out YPS Fashion mod, hell I loved all of them since the very beginning, but this is on another level, really well done!  I love how it is connected to BoS, I think in time they could really flow well together.  I guess I just ran into one of those snags where the 2 mods are competing against the other.  The last thing that I want to do is screw around with removing and re-adding mods in an active gameplay and inadvertently causing my save files to get corrupted.  

 

So, if I can get the 'set stages' dealing with the applying of the nails all the way to its conclusion of the character getting the professional manicure done, then that I feel would be the safest method at this point.  

 

Hm. In the BoS version I released yesterday I added an option to disable YPS makeup being locked onto bimbos. You might be able to disable the Force YPS Makeup setting (or lock makeup, or maintain, or whatever I called it...), then be able to remove your nail polish and proceed.

 

But yeah that's a conflict that needs resolving, since BoS and YPS want to be used together. @emily1673, is there anything you'd want me to change on my end, or is something that can be sorted out in YPS's logic?

Edited November 11, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[kasai018]

Hi there! Thanks for the awesome mod. Any ideas on being able to change the cage model for the dibella quest? Wanted to use one of the other vivis cock cages.

[nefer385]

Thank you for your reply jib-buttkiss.  I didn't realize that you had released another version yesterday.  I went through both MCMs trying to find a way to have YPS ignore the BoF nail polish long enough to move forward.  I figured it must have been something on my end, as I don't think anyone else has reported any issues.  It may have just been some very weird timing during my gameplay that both mods conflicted on the same 'nail polish' feature. 

 

Hopefully, I can download, install your latest version and see if it will give me the answer I need.  Though, if I am understanding it correctly, I may need the opposite to occur in my case.  The YPS nail polish cannot be applied because I have the BoF nail polish already active on my character.   So, I may need to simply get the quest stages from Emily and complete the nail polish questline via the console commands. 

[emily1673]

15 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said:

Oh, I understand from a real life perspective that the bra needs to be locked, I was talking about it from the inside-the-game perspective where our PC supposedly doesn't have breasts until after the operation.

 

So, will the body morphing mean that there will be no Bra, at least at some later time after everyone gets their body morphing feature working properly?

There will still be a bra, at least for the time being.

 

16 hours ago, nefer385 said:

Hi,

 

May need a bit of assistance.  I have both this mod and Bimbos of Skyrim by jib butkiss running.  Really enjoying the corruption and how yps is affecting it.  Ran into an issue just now.  Right before I received the quest to return the nail package to Lena and to try the nail polish on, the character's nails became painted automatically by Bimbos of Skyrim (due to Corruption/Bimbofication).  Each time I try to remove the nail polish via nail polish remover or paint over them I get a message that I am not allowed to change makeup.  I am not able to proceed with the quest at this point.  I was not able to find anything within either mod's MCM that would ignore or disable the nail polish detection.  I am sure there is a workaround that others may have found, any help would be welcomed. 

 

Only other option that I am now considering is to swap out an older YPS Fashion version, remove the polish through the nail polish remover (as long as Bimbos of Skyrim don't automatically re-assign the polish) swap in the newest YPS version again and then try to reapply the nail polish without Bimbos of Skyrim reapplying the polish.

 

If we don't have any workarounds on our end with YPS, perhaps Jib Butkiss on BoS will have a workaround for the Bimbofication.  Again, I am sure it is something that I probably missed or overlooked in one of the MCMs, any help is welcomed.  Thanks.

You definitely should avoid getting Bimbofied when you are doing the Dibella quest. I thought that I had disabled bimbofication during the quest, but maybe it didn't work out. Once the quest is finished, you can get Bimbofied again (and actually the next version will also feature a Bimbo ending of the quest, if you so desire).

 

12 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Feel free to pilfer the morphing code from Bimbos if you want. It's proved to be pretty stable, and Okshi even added SLIF compatibility in there.

 

 

Hm. In the BoS version I released yesterday I added an option to disable YPS makeup being locked onto bimbos. You might be able to disable the Force YPS Makeup setting (or lock makeup, or maintain, or whatever I called it...), then be able to remove your nail polish and proceed.

 

But yeah that's a conflict that needs resolving, since BoS and YPS want to be used together. @emily1673, is there anything you'd want me to change on my end, or is something that can be sorted out in YPS's logic?

Thanks for the code offer.

As for the conflict: It should actually not happen because I disabled Bimbofication during the Dibella quest, or at least I thought I did. If there is still a conflict, it's a bug in YPS.

4 hours ago, kasai018 said:

Hi there! Thanks for the awesome mod. Any ideas on being able to change the cage model for the dibella quest? Wanted to use one of the other vivis cock cages.

You might just change the mesh file assigned to the cage.

[kasai018]

Definitely a bit of a noob when it comes to modding. Would that be going into outfit studio and uploading the file I want in that spot instead? Or I could I simply switch the whole file of the cage I want to use with the cage that is currently being used? if so, could you tell me what kind of the cage the base file uses?

 

[nefer385]

Hello Emily1673 & jib_buttkiss,

 

I want to thank both of you for taking a look at my crazy situation.  I was able to utilize the proper console command to navigate through the quest.  Once I got to the point where the quest tells me to go to Yollie to get a professional manicure I was out of the woods.  Out of respect for you, Emily1673 I won't share the console command that should be completely up to you.  I am really loving both mods, hopefully I won't Bimbo out of control again.  🤪

[KentuckyExpat]

7 hours ago, emily1673 said:

There will still be a bra, at least for the time being.

 

Probably should always have one. With respect to the body morphs, do I understand correctly that breast development will be from a flat chested male to a some size breasted female? And that this will occur over time as the PC drinks the infusion? If so, the bra will definitely be needed. Or is the morph just going to provide a little "bump" on the left breast which gives the doctor the mistaken idea that he's dealing with a woman whose breasts have not yet developed?