Guffel Posted December 9, 2015 Author Posted December 9, 2015 Btw, it seems that if the player is male, you just get ignored. Nothing happens. Meaning, no attempts by NPCs to bully. Is that correct or...? The PCs gender doesn´t matter. You`re propably just unlucky. You could confirm this by undressing and waiting for one hour. When you`re naked the bullying is not rolled and happens automatically.
sapho888 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 ooh a new mod to try! I know you have stated that this isn't compatible with PO but I wonder if it would be possible to set the bounty levels in PO low enough so that PO handles the lower bounty levels (<1000 right now) and everything higher handled by this mod? Holy idea! That might even work. I had a look at the PO code and iirc it alters the scripts of the vanilla jail scenario. But RBP adds a new line and script and just avoids the other answers via conditions. So this could actually work. I´ll have a look at that. yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy! I just realized how strange it seems being excited about new ways to be sent to prison
Guest ffabris Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Btw, it seems that if the player is male, you just get ignored. Nothing happens. Meaning, no attempts by NPCs to bully. Is that correct or...? The PCs gender doesn´t matter. You`re propably just unlucky. You could confirm this by undressing and waiting for one hour. When you`re naked the bullying is not rolled and happens automatically. Did that (stripping naked) ... I was in the mine maybe 6 (game) hours, and nada. Then it came to yard time, and still nothing. I gave up then.
afa Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Definitely looks interesting. If it can juggle between different bounty to co exist with Prison Overhaul it could potentially add more dynamic to crime and prison. Personally I like the marching through city and public punishment part of PO more than the actual jail portion, this could be the best of both worlds. Although which one is actually more severe I wonder SexLab PaySexCrime handles the paying guard off with sex as well, and it also takes into consideration of followers, might worth checking out. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/44933-sexlab-paysexcrime/
shinji72 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Regarding PO compatibility, If you were going to add DA as a soft dependecy (so not to force it on people who dislike it), DA will handle the different scenarios between PO and Raven Prison (actually the end user will be able to easily set its own preferences).
chope Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Hey there, nice mod you made. I tested your mod and sometimes its bugged when guard tries to arrest me, i click on jail option but after dialogue guard just goes away and nothing happens, just managed to go jail once. Also i won 2 fights and prisoners seems to be afraid of me, so they dont get closer anymore, not even after a whole day. Aside of that its a great mod, hope you add more features soon, it has so many possibilities.
aspirine2 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 got it now ...bounty doesn't get over 1000 it then resets to 40 then back to 1000...what is wrong with me ???!!! I have no idea where your problem lies. But i can assure you thats not RBP cause it only reads out the bounty and never sets any. got that fixed ...bounty is normal now ...problem is when submitting to guards they sheath their swords and say nothing about raven beak ..(like you will rot in dragon's reach dungeon ) then they attack me again..??
Totenbarg Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Hi guffel, it´s a great mod, just tested it for a while now. Regarding RND: with standard timerate and standard RND settings an ale and one bread is definitely not enough, had to turn the settings in RND waaay down (but thats what they are in the mod for, so no problem here). Tried the submissive route first, but you will be in prison for a long long time cause you have to buy new pickaxes/clothes all the time. Staying naked gets you robbed every hour but sex didn´t happen until day 3 in prison for me So to spice things up a bit, I used horrible harassment with 5 hour cooldown and dangerous setting , worked just fine (I think your prison is the only place in Skyrim where you can hit your raper without getting a bounty and guards rushing in, so hit-repeat, hit-repeat, .... ) but theres a little flaw with your prisonguards: They start harassment until casting the spell but with no "action" afterwards Leaving the submissive route I just intimidated and fought everyone in the prison (as naked, unarmed level 1 character beware of the khajiit, I forgot their claws, oooww) and finished jailtime quickly afterwards. Didn´t try the prisonbreak so far, will be the next choice when my bounty is high enough again. Btw, got my first bounty for making witherun a better place without Nazeem (hey he deserved it, raped me right after I stepped out Bannered Mare). Hmmm, makes me think about Heimskr ....
aljustineg Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 need help submiting to the inmate doesnt trigger sex animation
Guffel Posted December 9, 2015 Author Posted December 9, 2015 Regarding PO compatibility, If you were going to add DA as a soft dependecy (so not to force it on people who dislike it), DA will handle the different scenarios between PO and Raven Prison (actually the end user will be able to easily set its own preferences). But doesn't DA only handles the Players Death? Neighter PO nor RBP trigger on death. PO has a scenario to put you in jail on death, but that isn't really the problem here^^
Guffel Posted December 9, 2015 Author Posted December 9, 2015 need help submiting to the inmate doesnt trigger sex animation How about you give me a bit more information, so I can help you? What did the other inmate say, and what did you answer? Does you SL installation work with other mods correctly?
shinji72 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Regarding PO compatibility, If you were going to add DA as a soft dependecy (so not to force it on people who dislike it), DA will handle the different scenarios between PO and Raven Prison (actually the end user will be able to easily set its own preferences). But doesn't DA only handles the Players Death? Neighter PO nor RBP trigger on death. PO has a scenario to put you in jail on death, but that isn't really the problem here^^ Not really, it actually handles any defeat scenario... so if a citizen is bashing you in the city, it may trigger arrest (and PO if it's in the load order). PO is already hooking on DA... so I guess also RAVEN could be. Maybe you could set your own parameters like if the player is defeated by non bandit faction and has a bounty somewhere superior to X septims she (or he) will wake up in the Raven prison.
captaindghf Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Btw, it seems that if the player is male, you just get ignored. Nothing happens. Meaning, no attempts by NPCs to bully. Is that correct or...? The PCs gender doesn´t matter. You`re propably just unlucky. You could confirm this by undressing and waiting for one hour. When you`re naked the bullying is not rolled and happens automatically. Did that (stripping naked) ... I was in the mine maybe 6 (game) hours, and nada. Then it came to yard time, and still nothing. I gave up then. I have the same problem. No one wants to approach me.
aljustineg Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 need help submiting to the inmate doesnt trigger sex animation How about you give me a bit more information, so I can help you? What did the other inmate say, and what did you answer? Does you SL installation work with other mods correctly? i did remember the inmate say about the word bitch then no animation sometimes when i fight back when they try to bully me i get a chance to be rape but i didnt get any when i voluntarily submit
doan77 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I have no concrete plans yet. Female prisoners would be easy. But with followers... I can't say yet. Made an list of aliases, like the one in Sexlab stories. And forceref the followersinto that list. You can also force them to dismiss. So they will act as the other prisoners, or differently if you made specific dialogues and scenes for them. If you plan to make a version for male character, the best would be to have follower getting rape instead of the player. Even prostitute your follower for ore. but the idea of a male character thrown into a prison full of waifu waiting for you to bang them, sound really stupid for a prison mod.
xboronx Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Would it be much work to modify the mod this way that it doesn't trigger itself but gets triggered by the mod "Simple Slavery" instead? So the prison would be one of the possible auction outcomes. Since you are sold for gold in Simple Slavery your new bounty would then be something like at least 5x the price you got sold for, so if you get sold for 2000 you have to work enough to earn 10000. Also you could contact Inte, then Prison Overhaul could also trigger your prison in some cases, e.g. when you have a really high bounty or tried to break out of prison. Or maybe the Jailer from Prison overhaul could ask you if you want to rather spend your time in the holds prison or in raven beak. I'm always one of those option loving guys, so i hope you find an easy enough way to integrate the mod a bit into either simple slavery or prison overhaul patches so that i can enjoy prison overhauls prisons and your new prison
Guest ffabris Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Would it be much work to modify the mod this way that it doesn't trigger itself but gets triggered by the mod "Simple Slavery" instead? So the prison would be one of the possible auction outcomes. Since you are sold for gold in Simple Slavery your new bounty would then be something like at least 5x the price you got sold for, so if you get sold for 2000 you have to work enough to earn 10000. Rather than "instead", how about "as well as". Perfectly possible to have a quest trigger by more than one thing.
NNS10 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Does this work with Needs mods? Is there food and drink available?
sapho888 Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Regarding PO compatibility, If you were going to add DA as a soft dependecy (so not to force it on people who dislike it), DA will handle the different scenarios between PO and Raven Prison (actually the end user will be able to easily set its own preferences). But doesn't DA only handles the Players Death? Neighter PO nor RBP trigger on death. PO has a scenario to put you in jail on death, but that isn't really the problem here^^ Not really, it actually handles any defeat scenario... so if a citizen is bashing you in the city, it may trigger arrest (and PO if it's in the load order). PO is already hooking on DA... so I guess also RAVEN could be. Maybe you could set your own parameters like if the player is defeated by non bandit faction and has a bounty somewhere superior to X septims she (or he) will wake up in the Raven prison. I would have thought you wouldn't need to involve DA at all in this. The entry point for this mod would be arrest, not defeat. Whether you were defeated prior to the arrest shouldn't really matter as long as an arrest was triggered. I guess if you want to have this mod trigger from other events, you could perhaps use the Simple Slavery mod? A lot of this seems to be getting more and more complicated for a mod Guffel said he wasn't going to be working much on though My main concern was wondering how you would stop PO from doing its thing at the >1000 bounty level. Disclaimer: I've never made a mod before so if I'm spouting nonsense, just slap me.
Guest castielxlt Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Texture sking fair complexion loses when i go into the cells room, in the cave and the yard is just fine... but in the cells room it changes is very ugly... you need to check it... i think if you isnt got mad ill edit some changes at your esp... but not for the sking idk, remember to check it this mod works pretty nice with sl hormones
tanuhk Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Does this work with Needs mods? Is there food and drink available? The only way to get food is by trading with a Khajiit or pinching some from the guards when they are not looking. There is water in the shower room but not much else. I use Realistic needs and Diseases and had to resort to trading to keep fed, and drinking shower water to keep hydrated. A Mess Hall would be a nice addition to future instalments, just for those that use a Needs mod (it can be turned off but that breaks the purpose of having the mod.) Love this mod, much better and "friendlier" with my set-up than Prison Overhaul ever was, but there are a few things I think could make the mod even better...or a few things I noticed that might make the setting a little imbalanced. 1) A thing I have noticed is the lack of female prisoners; there are none. I'm not saying there need to be as many as there are males, but some would be nice for a bit more variety. 2) I don't seem to be approached by prisoners much, even if I stand and do nothing in my cell for hours without talking or fighting with anyone. Not sure if it's a bug or if I am missing something to trigger these events. Getting into fights and losing behaves as it should. 3) Guards also don't seem to care if you or another prisoner pick up a weapon from their storage; I had 2 guys walking around with iron maces and the guards did nothing, and another guy pick up a dead guards entire set of armour and weapons during a fight over some ore. It might be worth adding a penalty for picking up certain objects like weapons, or treat them as stolen so NPCs don't go rushing for them unless their morality is ow (I know it's a prison but some prisoners have lower morality levels than other, again it's variety). 4) As stated above, a Mess Hall would be nice for those that need Food. I can tolerate drinking the shower water because hey, it's prison, but Food shouldn't really be absent because after all a hungry worker is a bad worker. 5) One final thing you may not be aware of; if you kill a prisoner and rob their corpse of their ore, then wait/sleep a day and return to the body it will have replenished itself with everything the owner had (give or take a couple ore) which allows you to rack up 100 ore pieces in 2 days without mining anything yourself. On a final note; Defeat works really well with this mod, I have had sexual encounters from failed fights in prison because of it. DA works as well. If I "die" in prison it just spawns me a few feet away and some time passes by.
Krh Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 The concept is good, but as it is now, the mod is too sparse to be entertaining. I think it's worth polishing and adding to when RL loosens its grip and FO4 becomes less compelling for you.
Totenbarg Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Does this work with Needs mods? Is there food and drink available? I asked guffel the same question before, just look to the previous posts. You will find 1 bread and 1 ale every evening (in the small sack) when you go into your cell for the night. If you turn down the basic settings of RND (I dont´t know or use other Needs mods) it will be barely enough. Also there are some carrots and breads at the guards table in upper floor of the prison you can just take. The khajiit sells wine and bread, but it´s very expensive for a prisoner who starts with 0 gold in the prison. Drinking in the shower is a good idea if you set your disease chance low enough. So using this mod with RND is really no problem because you can easily adjust your needs to the "offered resources" for the prison time in MCM.
Mez558 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Tried a few times and have successfully mined my way out each time. Most times I have ever been approached was twice in one prison term. Submitted first time, beat him up second. Demanding items only seems to give ore as an option if you beat them into submission Never managed to persuade anyone to help me escape but then only get approached first day, they just want to fight, they lose or they kill me and DA takes over. As far as I can tell this is mining mod, you enter, mine iron to reduce your sentence and then leave as that part worked fine Looked like a nice idea but I suspect there are more conflicts with the scripting than just the likes of PO.
ibanez85 Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 Been testing this, and I like the concept, very immersive and realism. I like the fact that the prison is almost sounds like prison in movie, and the time spent on the jail also feel realistic, in prison there is mining time, yard time, shower time and bed time, overall I like the concept, this might be worth replacing for XPO or might be a good addition to XPO and Bath in skyrim mod (since there is shower time) I didn't tested it tho..but I hate to say this, yet I found a minor problem when fellow inmates demanding sex, after my char submitted, the sex action won't trigger, they just sayin "good bitch" or something like that and then nothing happened, I have no idea why this problem occured, and FYI I don't have XPO installed, I'm gonna try it on clean save and we'll see..tho I have suspicion this might be just load order problem, but other than that...everything works flawlessly, definitely will keeping an eye to this mod. Oh btw, thanks for sharing this mod to community
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