SexLab Eager NPCs

[xyzxyz]

I get regular runtime error game freezes when I start Sex with SLEN in doors. Do you know why?

This is my newest papyrus log:

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Papajack55]

Here's a question: When I run Sexlab Eager NPCs for Oldrim or SE,  right after their mutual consention, my character's partner disappears. Then It goes to the smoke window and I end up at Bleakwind Bluffs or some giants camp. Now why is it doing that and all my mods have masters and only one patch. I don't know if its crossing with another mod that's causing this or what.

Is their something I'm doing wrong or what? I put in all Sexlab materials and their requirements too. Is it a load order or what?

[Snowmoon]

For some reason, not all the dialogues are appearing as options. For example, when I select a woman I'm only shown whatever you desire is fine, I want you to make love to me, look into my eyes while you fuck me and I want to ride you. Everything's enabled in the MCM so I don't know what's going wrong.

[karlpaws]

5 minutes ago, Snowmoon said:

For some reason, not all the dialogues are appearing as options. For example, when I select a woman I'm only shown whatever you desire is fine, I want you to make love to me, look into my eyes while you fuck me and I want to ride you. Everything's enabled in the MCM so I don't know what's going wrong.

Well this one I can answer.   It picks some of what is enabled based on your speech skill (I think) relationship with the NPC and maybe total number of people you've increased relationship with, via SLEN sex. (Chop wood or pick crops for everyone and that doesn't help, though it does make it easier to get them to agree to sex, being favorable to you).

 

I'm pretty sure there are a couple dialogs you have to have a relationship rank of 4 to show up, like the 3 and area orgy options.  The Throw a Party, blood for a vampire and werewolf sex are in another dialog grouping that also requires level 4 and is easy to forget and wonder where your party option is.

 

On 9/19/2019 at 8:17 AM, Papajack55 said:

Here's a question: When I run Sexlab Eager NPCs for Oldrim or SE,  right after their mutual consention, my character's partner disappears. Then It goes to the smoke window and I end up at Bleakwind Bluffs or some giants camp. Now why is it doing that and all my mods have masters and only one patch. I don't know if its crossing with another mod that's causing this or what.

Is their something I'm doing wrong or what? I put in all Sexlab materials and their requirements too. Is it a load order or what?

 

This one's a little harder and probably isn't your load order but where you're trying to start the scene.  It seems if you are outside and not on level ground, Sexlab can glitch the havok engine will try to throw up you into the air. That causes the PC and NPCs to teleport to 0,0 which is above that giant's camp.  At least that seems to be what people guess.

 

I think there are some ideas in the Sexlab tech support thread on what settings to change or what other crash fix and related mods to try.

[Snowmoon]

1 minute ago, karlpaws said:

Well this one I can answer.   It picks some of what is enabled based on your speech skill (I think) relationship with the NPC and maybe total number of people you've increased relationship with, via SLEN sex. (Chop wood or pick crops for everyone and that doesn't help, though it does make it easier to get them to agree to sex, being favorable to you).

 

I'm pretty sure there are a couple dialogs you have to have a relationship rank of 4 to show up, like the 3 and area orgy options.  The Throw a Party, blood for a vampire and werewolf sex are in another dialog grouping that also requires level 4 and is easy to forget and wonder where your party option is.

 

Oh ok! So what would be the best course of action... wipe the total number of people that I've had increased relationship with via SLEN?

[karlpaws]

1 hour ago, Snowmoon said:

Oh ok! So what would be the best course of action... wipe the total number of people that I've had increased relationship with via SLEN?

If you have a lot of increases, then no.  Just work on that NPC.  If this happens with all NPCs, even ones that you've had sex with more than once and like you, then I'm not sure why it is happening.

 

If you haven't, lately, I'd go speak to other NPCs that like you and see what options they have.

[TheLoverLabCriminal]

so question if we have a friend we can make them lover if we make love ? in slen ?

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, AlexTheFun said:

so question if we have a friend we can make them lover if we make love ? in slen ?

yes, you can progress your relationship if you succesfully charmed them

[karlpaws]

The one thing (if you don't know about it) that does help with tracking this kind of thing down is available in the console.

 

If you open it after getting the notification of which animation will be used (can open it later but not earlier, usually) SL will list the tags being used to select the animation and sometimes the other options it tries to use (if not enough anims are found matching).

 

That can help figure out what is going on, and also let you look at which animations should be selected but are not, or which tags to add to those you want.

 

One big thing is whether it lists looking for a MF or FF anim.  Some mods do not specify while others do. SLEN does but based on which actors it has identified.  For your pussyboy tab question, if one of the males was tagged female, it would look for MFF anims.  If neither male was tagged female it should only look for MMF and that will be visible in the console.

 

The other mod that is useful for this is SLATE.  You can add or remove tags, or just select one and see all of the animations using that tag much easier than looking through lists in SLAL and mousing over each anim to see which it has. If a mod you often use to start scenes uses certain tags in combination, you can create a SLATE filter to show all of the anims that match all of those tags.

 

 

[karlpaws]

1 hour ago, stingray1995 said:

 

SLATE, huh.  I'll have to check it out.  Somebody linked me the Sexlab Tools but I'm still not seeing the ability to manipulate the tags in it.

Hold the "modifier" key when you press the hotkey.. normally that is Shift and H and  you should have an option to change tags.  Tools doesn't let you edit the animations but pick new ones if the scene starting mod used tags you don't like.

[jlttsmiley]

2 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

I installed SLATE and loaded up all of the FFM animations; I had a total of 14 and none of them had a 'Lesbian' tag added to them.  7 of them had a 'Straight' tag. 

 

I think this was a major mistake, and probably why I was getting weird threesomes from Romance dialogue topics where a male NPC acts as if he is one of the Fs in FFM.  

 

Interestingly, SLATE puts the two FFs before M, emphasizing that the FF takes precedence, obviously making these lesbian.  And here was me being a sexist bastard by saying MFF, as if the M has to come first.

 

As for SLEN, I didn't notice anything weird yet since disabling Pussyboy topics, but I also went into the player tab and made sure to force my character's gender and gender preference.  Maybe that'll help.  All I know is that doing this for every NPC I come across would be a real pain; it should be smart enough to have those genders already assigned.  Even if a male NPC is flagged as gay, he shouldn't be doing lesbian animations; it's as if he's flagged as a female by default, so like, WTF.

 

If all of this hasn't fixed the problem, then I don't know what the hell would.  

 

Ah, I mean who am I kidding?  Loading up only the FFM animations is just the tip of the berg; who knows how many of these animations still need flags added and/or removed from them.  Isn't this supposed to be the job of the mod author and not the mod user?

The vision of the author sometimes is not the vision of the user . A animation tagged FF normally cannot be used by a male an female by changing the tag you can see it if you like.

[karlpaws]

17 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

I installed SLATE and loaded up all of the FFM animations; I had a total of 14 and none of them had a 'Lesbian' tag added to them.  7 of them had a 'Straight' tag. 

The tags can be useful, but only if the mod uses the tags. A mod that starts a 3 player anim will use FFF, MMM or any combo of MFF and MMF without regard.

17 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

Interestingly, SLATE puts the two FFs before M, emphasizing that the FF takes precedence, obviously making these lesbian.  And here was me being a sexist bastard by saying MFF, as if the M has to come first.

I haven't found the order matters at all, though it might to some mod. I am not sure if it is at all mod based or purely Sexlab. Order does matter in arrangement of the actors, but that is more up to the mod. Generally the female is added last as the recipient but some modders put the male in the middle while the vast majority put him first. If it was a case of of female doing male doing female, that would be my suggestion but since you're getting two males, with one taking a female role, I think more likely either Sexlab or a mod is counting a male as female. I am not clear if only SL Eager NPCs is doing this or other mods as well. SLEN has not done that in my game and has been the most reliably conforming to its rules (not all of which I like, but that's author's discretion).

17 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

Ah, I mean who am I kidding?  Loading up only the FFM animations is just the tip of the berg; who knows how many of these animations still need flags added and/or removed from them.  Isn't this supposed to be the job of the mod author and not the mod user?

Less mod author and more animator, tags wise. I do think that male NPCs are treated as male in the Sexlab framework and as straight by almost all mods unless toggled otherwise.  I don't think the straight/gay preferences are used by most mods though and that is more of a SLEN feature than Sexlab that I think has to be turned on in SLEN.  If so, if you are having any other mod create scenes with the male in the wrong position, it wouldn't apply.

[Snowmoon]

How does one gain access to the Dibella's Refuge library? there's this lil locked trapdoor so of course I have to know what it's for

[worik]

10 minutes ago, Snowmoon said:

How does one gain access to the Dibella's Refuge library? there's this lil locked trapdoor so of course I have to know what it's for

Basically, it get's unlocked sooner or later, by using the mod and it's features..

Spoiler for the little storyline:

Spoiler

Once you "advance" in your seduction skills and gain fame (indirectly configurable in the MCM) a little quest will be started. That's the unlock signal.

 

[Snowmoon]

1 hour ago, worik said:

Basically, it get's unlocked sooner or later, by using the mod and it's features..

Spoiler for the little storyline:

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Once you "advance" in your seduction skills and gain fame (indirectly configurable in the MCM) a little quest will be started. That's the unlock signal.

 

ohhhhh. I've done the first Dibella's Refuge quest to repair the bow, are there more?

[worik]

3 hours ago, Snowmoon said:

ohhhhh. I've done the first Dibella's Refuge quest to repair the bow, are there more?

Oh. I'm sorry, I mistook the door. My fault. The trapdoor is a planned but (yet?) unfinished continuation of the questline.

 

*) As far as I followed the development

[Irishredneck]

On 11/8/2019 at 1:47 AM, Snowmoon said:

ohhhhh. I've done the first Dibella's Refuge quest to repair the bow, are there more?

I read this and you grabbed my FULL attention.

 

(and then it was dashed to bits by the answer)

 

We can all hope for more!

[BeranabusBarnes]

Has anyone else ran into an issue where whenever you talk to your followers (at level 4 - lovers), they always proposition you for sex upon initiating dialogue? It's kind of annoying to have to decline them all the time just to do inventory management. I'm guessing I'm running into some sort of incompatibility with some follower affecting mod?

[NicoleDragoness]

7 hours ago, 7lMh0wLWq7UQNgcypEbl said:

Has anyone else ran into an issue where whenever you talk to your followers (at level 4 - lovers), they always proposition you for sex upon initiating dialogue? It's kind of annoying to have to decline them all the time just to do inventory management. I'm guessing I'm running into some sort of incompatibility with some follower affecting mod?

This should happen ONLY if they are currently following you AND they are aroused enough (maybe above 70 arousal, I think).

If this is not your case you surely have some conflict somewhere.

[WinterWolverine]

Love this Mod, I've been using this since I found it a few years ago, it's a must have and is nearly all you need. There are a few mcm menu options and a couple mods that can help it become the same for you. These will assist in fixing a few "problems". (remember this is to help with THIS mod, not others)

  1 check your sexlab aroused mcm settings. I personaly like, "settings" it 1.5 def-exp, 1.5 decay, 5 time rate and cell scan at 300secs (by default "require naked actor" is checked, make/check any armor that shows up in "current armor" if you want the mod to increase arousal, leave something unchecked if you need a break.) I recommend checking the "purge dead actors" option and enabling sos (I know, captain obvious right?).

 2 get used to using the "puppetmaster" (jedi mind trick) function in the mcm for "aroused redux", after selecting your followers (or self) "N" then lower exposure rate and time rate for yourself or a follower. (reverse for stubborn npcs (cheater))

 My prefs are; self = exp-rate 0.3, time-rate 5 and has exhibitionist checked (this means if she's nude her arousal will increase not only because she's nude but its increase depends on how many npcs see her, in large groups my char goes nuts, but just one follower it's much slower). Double these for my male characters.

For followers = exp-rate 0.3 (fm) / 0.5 (m), time-rate 5 (fm) / 7 (m) and no exhibitionist (I use these lowered settings for followers so they don't annoyingly beg for sex all the time, change to fit your needs)

 Next, to cure a few actor positioning probs (not 100% but close too). Make sure you have all types of animations, 1-5 actors m/m, mmf, ffm, f/f, anal, etc. and everything else (even lacking a footjob can cause strange choices if a mod would prefer that type of animation (futa only if you use it.)) yes even perhaps ones you'd prefer not to see (at least 1), this prevents the mods from forcing strange combos (again, this does help, I had other mods yell at me and realized it could effect other mods too, and it does, or it's been my exp at least). I prefer billy, anubus and nibbles, mixed with a dash of leito lol you'll get all you need and get get rid of most of the default sexlab animations if you'd like.

 Okay now I'd suggest a mod called "sexlab solutions revisited" it will allow you option for contextual animations concerning m/m f/f and m/f and what role you play (top/bottom) just choose (this mod will yell if your missing a type of animation, just untick contextual animations (straight/lez/gay) and it will stop looking for them. and for male chars you can use your female followers to please men if your not into m/m and reverse if your not into f/f etc... mixed with a crazy amount of new ways to get sexy with the npcs, I stated revisited because the author who picked it back up made it compatible if you check the option in the misc tab, and as you use sex as an option that shows up in dialog when intimidation's/bribes are options and it will increase your (slen) stats and friendships.

 And to add a bit more auto sex I'd recommend ABMM (arousal based MatchMaker) up to 5 actors if arousal needs are met, npcs will act without you, or be driven sexmad watching you being sexy, also slen compatible if option in mcm is checked (great way to meet new friends.).

 I could go on, but I'm out of time, hope this helps someone, this mod is effected by many mods, think of it like the "manager" not the "worker" (as such). peace

 ~ thoughts of a mad mind ~

[xyzxyz]

Is there a way to raise SLEN rank with an NPC without having sex yourself? I think you get the friend rank when you do a quest for the NPC  but the rank isn't high enough for party invitations or orgys with followers.

[Galishai]

On 12/1/2019 at 2:58 PM, xyzxyz said:

Is there a way to raise SLEN rank with an NPC without having sex yourself? I think you get the friend rank when you do a quest for the NPC  but the rank isn't high enough for party invitations or orgys with followers.

I use Manipulator for this.

[xyzxyz]

8 hours ago, Galishai said:

I use Manipulator for this.

What is that?

[DiscipleDarkfriend]

1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

What is that?

 

[xyzxyz]

12 hours ago, Galishai said:

I use Manipulator for this.

How do you use it for SLEN ranks?