Fallout 4 Discussion Thread

[BrashT]

To relate to the theme of the website:

A baby is generated based on the appearances of the two parents. . .do they just mean skin color or, perhaps, they mean actual facial generation? Life states? can grow the child up via console command from a 'baby' stage to 'to child stage' to 'Adult' stage sort of what we had for Fallout 3's intro?

. . .If true, I can only imagine what our dear community (the one I've lurked within for these two years now because I had nothing to add to it. ;_; ) will implement when the dev kit comes out and enough time and tinkering has occurred. . .

All of the babies! Raise a non-cutscene family!

[Nergui]

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

[BrashT]

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

I'd say its too early for naming something that doesn't exist, though I'd guess that it'd be named 'Sexout' like the last one was? Either way, with how the new engine works and the features packed in, I feel as though people will spend less time fixing the game (though many people will be upset/displeased/ETC and 'fix it anyways') and more time adding to the game. . .

 

I'm rather interested in how navmeshing will work with the custom housing if it does at all. . .

[Chaos63]

 

 

I may be going out on a limb here, but I'd wager sex mod immersion wasn't at top of their to-do list making this game. Besides, once people figure out how to either mute or re-voice the character, it shouldn't be too hard creating an alt start mod. God knows it's been done a million times by now.

 

 

 

It's character immersion in general. And yeah, the voice too. Hey guess what, you're American! Because we said so dammit! Even Saints Row gives you 3 accents to choose from. Revoicing from a mod standpoint is an overly large task. That FO3 follower that has a voice for the whole game took literal years. Oh and want to be gay/lesbian? Nope. You're bi at best and had a child. Though I did mention maybe you skip years and play as the kid at some point and this stuff is mostly moot.

 

Speaking of, not that it's something I use since it doesn't work with mods here but oh the hilarity of playable children races now.

 

 

Well, people have been complaining that we don't have a voiced character for many years. Now that it's here, I think it's a good thing. It's a whole another experience to actually hear the words and not have to read them off the screen, Dragon Age taught me that lesson.

Also, I've seen a couple nexus mods that change the pitch of the voice to make it sound like something completely else, even though they were just a couple dozen lines. I don't know how many people would be willing to do the whole game, though...I guess we'll have to see.

 

[Guest endgameaddiction]

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

 

There's not point at this time. Until we see the outcome. But fuck it. If were tossing out names I'll go with...

 

SexGen

 

New Gen game with sex. If it happens.

[Mobilizer]

Well everyone, it's better now or never to ask this:

 

Who will be the first to make create a nude female / male body for Fallout 4? I remember a very crude version was created on the day of Skyrim's release.

 

The race is on. 

[Joomla]

Well everyone, it's better now or never to ask this:

 

Who will be the first to make create a nude female / male body for Fallout 4? I remember a very crude version was created on the day of Skyrim's release.

 

The race is on. 

 

i actually think making mods day one is more to show off to people rather than wanting to have it more popular since atleast for me i want to play the game totally vanilla before i mod it cause i use mods to change things i dont like or add things that were not in vanilla versio

[EvilBastard]

Well everyone, it's better now or never to ask this:

 

Who will be the first to make create a nude female / male body for Fallout 4? I remember a very crude version was created on the day of Skyrim's release.

 

The race is on. 

 

As long as it no balloon boobs on the female body, I'll gladly use it.

[l33tMan]

 

I really don't see the point of the people complaining about a sexually active protagonist. They claim that the protagonists of the previous games were virgins, and all the horrible (and sexy) things that happened to them via LL mods are their first sexual encounters. I'm gonna call bullshit on that. In New Vegas, once you have The Courier's backstory all pieced together, the protagonist has to in his/her late twenties at least, as he/she had already claimed the title of badass through his/her pregame exploits. Hell, Lonesome Road explicitly states that The Courier has been in this line of work for more then a decade. Mind you, The Courier is from NCR, which models itself after prewar America, child labor laws probably included. I dare you to find a person who has more then a decade under his or her belt working a full-time job who is a virgin. If you do, I will eat my shoe, and I really like my shoe.

 

As for The Lone Wanderer, I feel that the intro strongly implies the he/she had a sexual relationship at some point with Amata. I guess you could argue the she's just a really good friend, but I think it's more likely that she is or was in love with The Lone Wanderer. You don't just stick your neck out like that for anybody, especially when you're going against your loving father whom you have a deep respect for (Which does fit the description for Amata. I cite the peaceful solution to "Trouble on The Home-front" as evidence that Amata and her father do love and respect each other). No, I insist that The Lone Wanderer had to be particularly "special" for Amata. Hell, I'd be willing to gamble that Amata lost her virginity to him/her.

 

As for the Elder Scrolls protagonists, there are very few convicted prisoners who are still virgins. And those who are don't stay that way for long, even in modern prisons. Much less in medieval dungeons. However, there is enough ambiguity in those backstories to call those games protagonist's retainer of virginity plausible, but not probable.

 

So, I argue that the protagonists of the Fallout and Elder Scrolls series were all at least implied to be sexually active before the events of their games. The Fallout protagonists especially. That said, if you really want to "de-flower" your protagonist, there will most certainly be a LAL mod that will allow people of that particular fetish persuasion to role play it in. Also, I heard a rumor saying that the PC will die at the end of the main quest, and the player will assume the role of his/her progeny to continue gameplay after the end of the main quest. If that's true, well then there's your solution.

 

Goddamnit... I really have a hard time conveying my opinion accuratelly.

It's not about the virginity, although it was possible to assume your character is a virgin in the previous Bethesda titles, in extreme cases. It's about being locked into a certain character.

In previous games, you could decide yourself whether you are guilty or just put in prison by accident; you, the player, can decide whether you banged Amata in your days in the vault or she just relies on you as a good friend and very capable person; the Courier could have been a clean professional or a womanizer/broad, it was always up to YOU and YOU ONLY to fill in the character's backstory.

 

This... Being this father or mother (depending on which sex you pick during character creation) forces on the player character certain implications about his mental state, about his personality, character.

This story choice implies the player character was at some point in their life compassionate and "normal" enough (by current western culture standards - the Americas and Europe). Heck, the fact that the PC remebers the robotic servant implies his mental health isn't half bad, at worst.

 

This story choice implies the PC has certain experience with society, namely and most importantly for some LL mods and fetishes, sexual experience in society.

I personally am not fixed on the virginity aspect, I am freaking out about my PC already having experience being a responsible adult.

Now just pick out something I didn't word out with proper clarity - summon me once more!

 

 

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

There's not point at this time. Until we see the outcome. But fuck it. If were tossing out names I'll go with...

 

SexGen

 

New Gen game with sex. If it happens.

Positive vote! I like "SexGen". Now, since we're going to use an engine based on Skyrim's engine, how hard would it be to port the base frameworks of SexLab, Aroused (Redux) and Apropos, their functions, to speed up the delivery of a sex framework for content producers?

[BruceWayne]

They deliberately didn't say anything about the details of the story. If any of the previous game are anything to go by, I wouldn't worry so much about the pre-history of the main character, since you more or less always started as a blank slate. And even if not, alternative start mods are usually among the first ones to come out, so you can be whoever you want to be and start however you want to start. 

[Guest endgameaddiction]

 

 

 

 

I really don't see the point of the people complaining about a sexually active protagonist. They claim that the protagonists of the previous games were virgins, and all the horrible (and sexy) things that happened to them via LL mods are their first sexual encounters. I'm gonna call bullshit on that. In New Vegas, once you have The Courier's backstory all pieced together, the protagonist has to in his/her late twenties at least, as he/she had already claimed the title of badass through his/her pregame exploits. Hell, Lonesome Road explicitly states that The Courier has been in this line of work for more then a decade. Mind you, The Courier is from NCR, which models itself after prewar America, child labor laws probably included. I dare you to find a person who has more then a decade under his or her belt working a full-time job who is a virgin. If you do, I will eat my shoe, and I really like my shoe.

As for The Lone Wanderer, I feel that the intro strongly implies the he/she had a sexual relationship at some point with Amata. I guess you could argue the she's just a really good friend, but I think it's more likely that she is or was in love with The Lone Wanderer. You don't just stick your neck out like that for anybody, especially when you're going against your loving father whom you have a deep respect for (Which does fit the description for Amata. I cite the peaceful solution to "Trouble on The Home-front" as evidence that Amata and her father do love and respect each other). No, I insist that The Lone Wanderer had to be particularly "special" for Amata. Hell, I'd be willing to gamble that Amata lost her virginity to him/her.

As for the Elder Scrolls protagonists, there are very few convicted prisoners who are still virgins. And those who are don't stay that way for long, even in modern prisons. Much less in medieval dungeons. However, there is enough ambiguity in those backstories to call those games protagonist's retainer of virginity plausible, but not probable.

So, I argue that the protagonists of the Fallout and Elder Scrolls series were all at least implied to be sexually active before the events of their games. The Fallout protagonists especially. That said, if you really want to "de-flower" your protagonist, there will most certainly be a LAL mod that will allow people of that particular fetish persuasion to role play it in. Also, I heard a rumor saying that the PC will die at the end of the main quest, and the player will assume the role of his/her progeny to continue gameplay after the end of the main quest. If that's true, well then there's your solution.

Goddamnit... I really have a hard time conveying my opinion accuratelly.
It's not about the virginity, although it was possible to assume your character is a virgin in the previous Bethesda titles, in extreme cases. It's about being locked into a certain character.
In previous games, you could decide yourself whether you are guilty or just put in prison by accident; you, the player, can decide whether you banged Amata in your days in the vault or she just relies on you as a good friend and very capable person; the Courier could have been a clean professional or a womanizer/broad, it was always up to YOU and YOU ONLY to fill in the character's backstory.

This... Being this father or mother (depending on which sex you pick during character creation) forces on the player character certain implications about his mental state, about his personality, character.
This story choice implies the player character was at some point in their life compassionate and "normal" enough (by current western culture standards - the Americas and Europe). Heck, the fact that the PC remebers the robotic servant implies his mental health isn't half bad, at worst.

This story choice implies the PC has certain experience with society, namely and most importantly for some LL mods and fetishes, sexual experience in society.
I personally am not fixed on the virginity aspect, I am freaking out about my PC already having experience being a responsible adult.

Now just pick out something I didn't word out with proper clarity - summon me once more!

 

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

There's not point at this time. Until we see the outcome. But fuck it. If were tossing out names I'll go with...

SexGen

New Gen game with sex. If it happens.

Positive vote! I like "SexGen". Now, since we're going to use an engine based on Skyrim's engine, how hard would it be to port the base frameworks of SexLab, Aroused (Redux) and Apropos, their functions, to speed up the delivery of a sex framework for content producers?

 

 

 

From my point of view (i'm not an animator) it will be hell. I'm assuming since it's on Creation Engine it's going to use the papyrus and havok crap. This alone is a bitch. If it's a pain to port animations say from Oblivion to Fallout, this is probably about x100 more a pain.

 

My guess is a complete new work. But I dunno really.

[Veniat]

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

 

Can I add something plain like 'Sexout Boston' to that list of names?

[Joomla]

 

Well everyone, it's better now or never to ask this:

 

Who will be the first to make create a nude female / male body for Fallout 4? I remember a very crude version was created on the day of Skyrim's release.

 

The race is on.

As long as it no balloon boobs on the female body, I'll gladly use it.

thats usually problem for me in adult mods it seems to be hard to find tame mods. they usually go to pretty extreme end. in skyrim base CBBE fit perfectly. i bet if something like it comes to fallout 4 i will use it. then again i would like model with large hips/bubble butt while boobs dont really matter that much a to d size all fine.

also it might sound stupid but i would like them to have little immersion. not that everyone just always does everything but they do things since humans most of them have needs on that side too. maybe connected to realistic needs type of mod

[nutluck]

They deliberately didn't say anything about the details of the story. If any of the previous game are anything to go by, I wouldn't worry so much about the pre-history of the main character, since you more or less always started as a blank slate. And even if not, alternative start mods are usually among the first ones to come out, so you can be whoever you want to be and start however you want to start. 

 

I agree, I think one of the first mods that will come out will be a alternate start that has you starting the game as you leave the vault. So you could then come up with any story you want on why you are the last member of vault 111.

 

 

 

 

I really don't see the point of the people complaining about a sexually active protagonist. They claim that the protagonists of the previous games were virgins, and all the horrible (and sexy) things that happened to them via LL mods are their first sexual encounters. I'm gonna call bullshit on that. In New Vegas, once you have The Courier's backstory all pieced together, the protagonist has to in his/her late twenties at least, as he/she had already claimed the title of badass through his/her pregame exploits. Hell, Lonesome Road explicitly states that The Courier has been in this line of work for more then a decade. Mind you, The Courier is from NCR, which models itself after prewar America, child labor laws probably included. I dare you to find a person who has more then a decade under his or her belt working a full-time job who is a virgin. If you do, I will eat my shoe, and I really like my shoe.

 

As for The Lone Wanderer, I feel that the intro strongly implies the he/she had a sexual relationship at some point with Amata. I guess you could argue the she's just a really good friend, but I think it's more likely that she is or was in love with The Lone Wanderer. You don't just stick your neck out like that for anybody, especially when you're going against your loving father whom you have a deep respect for (Which does fit the description for Amata. I cite the peaceful solution to "Trouble on The Home-front" as evidence that Amata and her father do love and respect each other). No, I insist that The Lone Wanderer had to be particularly "special" for Amata. Hell, I'd be willing to gamble that Amata lost her virginity to him/her.

 

As for the Elder Scrolls protagonists, there are very few convicted prisoners who are still virgins. And those who are don't stay that way for long, even in modern prisons. Much less in medieval dungeons. However, there is enough ambiguity in those backstories to call those games protagonist's retainer of virginity plausible, but not probable.

 

So, I argue that the protagonists of the Fallout and Elder Scrolls series were all at least implied to be sexually active before the events of their games. The Fallout protagonists especially. That said, if you really want to "de-flower" your protagonist, there will most certainly be a LAL mod that will allow people of that particular fetish persuasion to role play it in. Also, I heard a rumor saying that the PC will die at the end of the main quest, and the player will assume the role of his/her progeny to continue gameplay after the end of the main quest. If that's true, well then there's your solution.

 

Goddamnit... I really have a hard time conveying my opinion accuratelly.

It's not about the virginity, although it was possible to assume your character is a virgin in the previous Bethesda titles, in extreme cases. It's about being locked into a certain character.

In previous games, you could decide yourself whether you are guilty or just put in prison by accident; you, the player, can decide whether you banged Amata in your days in the vault or she just relies on you as a good friend and very capable person; the Courier could have been a clean professional or a womanizer/broad, it was always up to YOU and YOU ONLY to fill in the character's backstory.

 

This... Being this father or mother (depending on which sex you pick during character creation) forces on the player character certain implications about his mental state, about his personality, character.

This story choice implies the player character was at some point in their life compassionate and "normal" enough (by current western culture standards - the Americas and Europe). Heck, the fact that the PC remebers the robotic servant implies his mental health isn't half bad, at worst.

 

This story choice implies the PC has certain experience with society, namely and most importantly for some LL mods and fetishes, sexual experience in society.

I personally am not fixed on the virginity aspect, I am freaking out about my PC already having experience being a responsible adult.

Now just pick out something I didn't word out with proper clarity - summon me once more!

 

 

Have there been any discusion on the name of the sex framework? Might I make a suggestion? "Sexvault"

There's not point at this time. Until we see the outcome. But fuck it. If were tossing out names I'll go with...

 

SexGen

 

New Gen game with sex. If it happens.

Positive vote! I like "SexGen". Now, since we're going to use an engine based on Skyrim's engine, how hard would it be to port the base frameworks of SexLab, Aroused (Redux) and Apropos, their functions, to speed up the delivery of a sex framework for content producers?

 

 

 

From my point of view (i'm not an animator) it will be hell. I'm assuming since it's on Creation Engine it's going to use the papyrus and havok crap. This alone is a bitch. If it's a pain to port animations say from Oblivion to Fallout, this is probably about x100 more a pain.

 

My guess is a complete new work. But I dunno really.

 

Or you will see a lot of Skyrim mods get ported over which is what I am expecting.

 

[Hybris50]

Just wanting to put this out here.

 

I really want to see from the mod making community a focus on mod consolidation.

 

In FNV it wasn't uncommon to have a mod take up 4 or 5 slots and when you only have 140 working slots it added up quick.

 

I know that not everyone will instantly get any dlc or expansions so there will have to be different versions of mod files for the various combinations which would make support a lot harder, BUT if Fallout 4 still has the goddamned 255 file limit we the community I feel must try to focus on keeping our mods as compact as possible.

Combining mods as I found when I did it for Skyrim and FNV had mixed results and often led to 2 weeks or more in NV's case trying to combine mods and get something stable going, other people probably had better luck with a different miss mash of mods but this my experience.

 

Again this request/dream rides on the chance that we will see 255 mod limit if there is no limit then we will have to see how it handles things.

[jaam]

How aboutt Sexlab ? If it is Creation engine and Papyrus, it will be ten time faster to branch out Sexlab than build anything from scratch.

[Halstrom]

I'd just go with Sexout4 or maybe SexOn, but it's up to the creator really, hopefully a lot of the skyrim animations etc might port over.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

I honestly see that as a bad idea. Using SexLab for Fallout will just cause confusion and end up with Skyrim people creating topics in the wrong section and posting in the wrong topics.

[BruceWayne]

I honestly see that as a bad idea. Using SexLab for Fallout will just cause confusion and end up with Skyrim people creating topics in the wrong section and posting in the wrong topics.

 

They already do that anyway.

 

But I agree, a new name would probably make sense.

[bjornk]

I wonder if the character creation screen would allow creating "same sex" couples. It sure seems moddable.

 

I also wonder how the showracemenu command would work, if there's one that is. Hopefully, there's another menu for PC only. It would be really annoying if it took you back to the same screen at the beginning of the game.

[bjornk]

I honestly see that as a bad idea. Using SexLab for Fallout will just cause confusion and end up with Skyrim people creating topics in the wrong section and posting in the wrong topics.

Well, if the game is any good, we may upgrade the lab and turn it into an "institute".

[l33tMan]

 

 

I honestly see that as a bad idea. Using SexLab for Fallout will just cause confusion and end up with Skyrim people creating topics in the wrong section and posting in the wrong topics.

They already do that anyway.

 

But I agree, a new name would probably make sense.

I'll quote the mod, if I may

 

 

I think Fallout will need a "clean start" in the "LL Marketing Department" scope of competence:

New site section, new base framework name, new name for possible ports/similar frameworks to those made for previous titles, etc.

 

On the technical note, however, I think a lot could be ported from Skyrim (warning: beginner coder opinion). With SexLab 1.59c, great stability has been achieved, 1.60 gives modders the prospect of updated features and streamlined functions -> writing all that again from scratch would be a pain.

Apropos wear&tear and event comments, the Aroused system, Defeat (I endorse it because it's stable, on my setup at least) all could have their most fundamental frameworks ripped out and jury-rigged to work with input from the new engine and output adequate commands for it, then we'd rebrand them.

 

 

Gosh, it's going to be a huge leap back into normal RPG since nude body replacers, animated genitalia, explicit prostitution, erotica and sexquests will suddenly go from mundane affairs to new, unstable baby steps.

 

[Guest endgameaddiction]

I meant the name SexLab for the Fallout 4. Not the actual framework. If it's possible with ease to port the framework and animations, I can agree this would be much much less time consuming than starting from scratch.

 

The problem is how it's going to work with dialogue. The player character and NPC interaction maybe silent during the dialogue. That doesn't bother me much, but only having 4 options is going to hurt without the extra dialogue trees. My only guess is finding 4 base structures for the sex. And apply something like FNIS to change positions during sex since dialogue is very limited.

[Veniat]

I seriously hope someone ports over Schlongs of Skyrim to Fallout 4, it's got to be the best mod for men ever.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

That's the first mod on my wishlist

 

Female version though. Going to strap her with a horse one if possible. It's a mutated world after all. My chick in a cryochamber with giddy up buttercup for 200 years? Can't tell me there wasn't any Marvin Gaye going on in there.