Prison Overhaul Patched (LE)

[KuriousK]

Hello! This is a small thing, so no big deal if nobody can help, but I figure I may as well ask. In the past I mentioned the change to the prisoner restraints to ones with more modern versions with red lines. I decided I'd like to tweak it myself with just a quick colour correction for personal use (I tend to like immersion) but I can't actually find the texture files for the cuffs, ankle cuffs and log gag used. I've extracted both the original Prison Overhaul 33 and the newest patch to look for the DDS files, but no luck. Can anyone tell me where I might find the files to tweak them? 

 

Anyway, fantastic mod. I got off Skyrim for a while, but being back I couldn't resist using this one again. The pillory is so much fun. 

[Kadebostany]

Could one of you maybe help me? I am using this mod and it doesn't work properly. There was a time when it worked properly, but since a different mode didn't work I removed all my mods and reinstalled all of them and now po doesn't work any more.

 

The problem is whenever I punishment starts one character is frozen while the other one does all the work. Idk if you guys can see it, but this is what it looks like in game http://i.imgur.com/n7FMUmm.jpg jailer is frozen, doesn't move at all, and my character just jumps around.

 

also here is a list of the mods I have http://i.imgur.com/FdGwUhv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/D1qp7Xf.jpg

 

I would also post a log, but I have no idea how to make one. 

[Morferous]

Could one of you maybe help me? I am using this mod and it doesn't work properly. There was a time when it worked properly, but since a different mode didn't work I removed all my mods and reinstalled all of them and now po doesn't work any more.

 

The problem is whenever I punishment starts one character is frozen while the other one does all the work. Idk if you guys can see it, but this is what it looks like in game http://i.imgur.com/n7FMUmm.jpg jailer is frozen, doesn't move at all, and my character just jumps around.

 

also here is a list of the mods I have http://i.imgur.com/FdGwUhv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/D1qp7Xf.jpg

 

I would also post a log, but I have no idea how to make one. 

 

Conflicts in your MO left panel are unsorted. Wrong resources are winning conflicts there and that is causing plenty of problems. Left panel is important in MO.

 

Sort your left panel to match your load order in right panel, including official DLCs. You should learn how to solve conflicts, but sorting them like that at least once gives you a base to do so.

 

See this Steam article about how to manage your resource priorities in MO.  

 

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

[ForestElf]

Quick question, as i am a bit confused by the description. Am i right to understand that the PO patch will work even without Devious Equip (or Devious devices) installed? Thanks.

[Kadebostany]

Conflicts in your MO left panel are unsorted. Wrong resources are winning conflicts there and that is causing plenty of problems. Left panel is important in MO.

When you say conflicts, you mean those little lightning icons? I am new to Skyrim, don'T really know much about those conflicts.

 

 

Sort your left panel to match your load order in right panel, including official DLCs. You should learn how to solve conflicts, but sorting them like that at least once gives you a base to do so.

MO was already sorted with Loot, it's possible that I made the screenshot before I sorted it. I have also used tes5edit to clean dirty files.

 

 

The guide says If you have files that are not yet sorted properly by loot (as presented below), then move these files to proper places manually and you are done., how do I sort them without loot on my own?

 

 

Also, outside of prison sex seems to work, here is a screenshot

 

http://i.imgur.com/zhJNxSF.jpg

 

also sorry about the orc, I was playing on my main and I usually don't do that rape stuff on this one. 

[Inte]

Quick question, as i am a bit confused by the description. Am i right to understand that the PO patch will work even without Devious Equip (or Devious devices) installed? Thanks.

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

[ForestElf]

 

Quick question, as i am a bit confused by the description. Am i right to understand that the PO patch will work even without Devious Equip (or Devious devices) installed? Thanks.

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

 

Thank you very much, both for the explanation and for the mod. 

[Slorm]

Just to confirm that Kimy's fixed the problem in Dawnstar in DCL 5.3 and the arrest now works properly

[Inte]

 

 

Quick question, as i am a bit confused by the description. Am i right to understand that the PO patch will work even without Devious Equip (or Devious devices) installed? Thanks.

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

 

Thank you very much, both for the explanation and for the mod. 

 

 

NP.

 

[Inte]

Just to confirm that Kimy's fixed the problem in Dawnstar in DCL 5.3 and the arrest now works properly

 

Good, ... good.

 

[magicrealm]

te can you make a version for the non-devious devices? 

[CGi]

First time i got the event with the cage in Dragonsreach and on my way there, Nakir (one of the Jarls kids iirc) told my toon that he can't wait to abuse my toon later in the pillory.
i really don't know what to think about that. :/

 

Edit:

Other kids that come by the cage greet my toon with the same sentence. :/
And having a follower in this scenario makes entering the cage a test for patience and they block the whipping scene in the cage, so nothing happens except the timer running out.

We really need bigger cages ... where's the cagemaster when you need him?

[WaxenFigure]

First time i got the event with the cage in Dragonsreach and on my way there, Nakir (one of the Jarls kids iirc) told my toon that he can't wait to abuse my toon later in the pillory.

i really don't know what to think about that. :/

 

Edit:

Other kids that come by the cage greet my toon with the same sentence. :/

And having a follower in this scenario makes entering the cage a test for patience and they block the whipping scene in the cage, so nothing happens except the timer running out.

We really need bigger cages ... where's the cagemaster when you need him?

Needs a child check on the quest to which the dialogue is attached so no child will utter any of those dialogues though perhaps if someone were to add the voiced dialogue Nelson from the Simpsons TV show uses to mock anyone in trouble and set it up for the boy children to use it would at least be funny.

[CGi]

But but but... Nelsons voice would not be iMMERSiVE!

Who cares? i like this idea. X'D

[Inte]

Ha haa!
I'll add a child check.

te can you make a version for the non-devious devices? 

 

You can just switch to "Use POP Devices" in the MCM.  
 

[Morferous]

 

Conflicts in your MO left panel are unsorted. Wrong resources are winning conflicts there and that is causing plenty of problems. Left panel is important in MO.

When you say conflicts, you mean those little lightning icons? I am new to Skyrim, don'T really know much about those conflicts.

 

 

Sort your left panel to match your load order in right panel, including official DLCs. You should learn how to solve conflicts, but sorting them like that at least once gives you a base to do so.

MO was already sorted with Loot, it's possible that I made the screenshot before I sorted it. I have also used tes5edit to clean dirty files.

 

 

The guide says If you have files that are not yet sorted properly by loot (as presented below), then move these files to proper places manually and you are done., how do I sort them without loot on my own?

 

 

Also, outside of prison sex seems to work, here is a screenshot

 

http://i.imgur.com/zhJNxSF.jpg

 

also sorry about the orc, I was playing on my main and I usually don't do that rape stuff on this one. 

 

 

You right panel seems to be in check, but left panel is not. LOOT does not touch the left panel (resource priorities) at all.

 

Those lightnings are indeed telling about conflicts. It is important to notice that it does NOT tell you they are harmful or not and that you will always have them around. They simply tell that resources from that mods are either winning a conflict (+) or loosing a conflict (-) to another mod. You will need to know if they are problem or not.

 

This is why I recommended sorting the left panel to match the right one. It gives you a good base. If you realize that something is wrong, then you are pondering the problem between individual files, instead of full set of mods.

 

About moving files in the right panel: just select them with your mouse and drag them up and down, if you need to. LOOT usually makes quite stable load order, but there are few exceptions that it does not sort properly, or some property edits that user would wish to solve other way around.

 

I do hope that you did not clean all mods in TES5Edit. Modern mod authors are aware of the problem with dirty edits (though not all are, or just don't care). It is quite possible that those edits are actually needed for a mod to function. Clearing them off would break the mod. LOOT could actually hide warnings and post notes about edits in mods, if mod author knows about edits and that if they are needed, but sadly not all mod authors have figured that this feature exists.

 

Read more about cleaning mods from Nazenn's thread: #2, Cleaning Files with Tes5Edit.

 

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/619573787397876592/

[magicrealm]

Ha haa!

I'll add a child check.

 

te can you make a version for the non-devious devices? 

 

You can just switch to "Use POP Devices" in the MCM.  

 

in which mods mcm ? i havent seen it in po mcm. devious equip ? this mod requires ddi and dde, which i want to avoid with non-devious devices.that was my question about.

[El_Duderino]

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

in which mods mcm ? i havent seen it in po mcm. devious equip ? this mod requires ddi and dde, which i want to avoid with non-devious devices.that was my question about.

 

Hi, see Inte's post quoted above. The "Use POP Devices" option is on the last page of the PO MCM (the one for the patch's settings).

[magicrealm]

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

in which mods mcm ? i havent seen it in po mcm. devious equip ? this mod requires ddi and dde, which i want to avoid with non-devious devices.that was my question about.

 

Hi, see Inte's post quoted above. The "Use POP Devices" option is on the last page of the PO MCM (the one for the patch's settings).

 

sorry, no it isnt. i use the actual f version. i tried force newstart, but it does not show up again.

i do have ddassets installed, thats necessary for non devious devices.

 

[Slorm]

Had an odd experience in Windhelm. This was with POP8 zeta and a recent upgrade to DCL 5.3, though I don't think either mod caused it, more like just one of those skyrim glitches.

 

I was rather unwelcome in Markarth and was *cough* escorted (somewhat roughly I might add) to the Jailers place. When being taken to the pillories after we emerged from the Jailers place by the Palace of the Kings, much to my surprise there were two Stormcloaks having a fight, then a third started shooting arrows as well.

 

I tried reloading an earlier save but it didn't happen again. I was wondering if anyone had seen this happen before (it looks like one of the guards must have had the wrong faction code or something)?

 

EDIT:

 

@Inte

 

The new XP and SP reductions are working really well. At present I have XP for all skills and Both for One Handed and Light Armour with a reduction of 2SP, which works out at a 1% reduction in damage dealt and damage avoided. I'm in two minds whether to increase it or not, as I *cough* seem to end up in jail a lot the skill levels could get well behind the pc level which would make bosses a lot harder to deal with.

 

Still thinking about marksman as it may be possible to practice surreptitiously by throwing stones at the cell wall (I'm really in two minds on that one though )

[CGi]

Cage Exhibition Journal - Day 2:
i was put into the cage in Dragonsreach again but this time 2 nobles and commander Caius decided to joined me, my follower and the other girl.
it's now rather crowded in here, making most actions impossible.

And how did they get in here in the first place? i thought the cage door is locked... mmhh... i need to know that teleport spell.

 

The whole situation happened after a noble ordered the other girl to fuck my toon.
No fucking took place but alot of people joined us.

 

Either this darkelf stole someones body or she's wearing her skin... ewww!

Or is this girl wearing a darkelfs face? ... This mod is creepy!

Missing FaceTint = creepy mod. Who would have thought that? ^^

 

 

Edit:

Teleporting NPCs problem solved by standing closer to the cage door.

Whipping still not working as she always ask me where i'm going. i guess she targets someone outside of the cage?

[Inte]

 

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

in which mods mcm ? i havent seen it in po mcm. devious equip ? this mod requires ddi and dde, which i want to avoid with non-devious devices.that was my question about.

 

Hi, see Inte's post quoted above. The "Use POP Devices" option is on the last page of the PO MCM (the one for the patch's settings).

 

sorry, no it isnt. i use the actual f version. i tried force newstart, but it does not show up again.

i do have ddassets installed, thats necessary for non devious devices.

 

 

It's in POP MCM. Bellow is POP 8 RC , POP 7f might be slightly different, but the option is the same.

 

[Inte]

Cage Exhibition Journal - Day 2:

i was put into the cage in Dragonsreach again but this time 2 nobles and commander Caius decided to joined me, my follower and the other girl.

it's now rather crowded in here, making most actions impossible.

GetOutOfMyCageDammit.jpg

And how did they get in here in the first place? i thought the cage door is locked... mmhh... i need to know that teleport spell.

 

The whole situation happened after a noble ordered the other girl to fuck my toon.

No fucking took place but alot of people joined us.

 

Either this darkelf stole someones body or she's wearing her skin... ewww!

Or is this girl wearing a darkelfs face? ... This mod is creepy!

Missing FaceTint = creepy mod. Who would have thought that? ^^

 

 

Edit:

Teleporting NPCs problem solved by standing closer to the cage door.

Whipping still not working as she always ask me where i'm going. i guess she targets someone outside of the cage?

 

Is noble teleport-in anything like this? A walk down memory lane.

In my tests the noble teleport-in only happen once after an update, or a mod reset. 

 

The dark face bug must be something on your end because I never had that happen to the prisoner.

Now the POP BH is a different story. I am using a leveled character which has about 20 different actors in it, and I rather not export their faces in case it might affect other mods. Unless there is another way to fix that grey face bug?

 

If no sex takes place you might want to reset your animation registry in SL MCM.

Depending on which message appeared in you upper left corner of the screen it could have been a 3 way animation - since you had a follower and those animations are few, so it might not have found a suitable one.

 

Now, the whipping is weird - it does not happen for me either - I must have tried 10 different AI combos. It worked in the beginning, but I tried to improve it and I can't get it to work anymore. The weird thing is it works for most.

 

[CGi]

No mod update and no reset.
They teleport in if i'm to far towards the back of the cage so you must do something with distances there as standing close to the cage door avoids bystanders from teleporting into the cage.

 

i have all FaceTints in place and the HeadMesh point towards the correct texture. Don't know what's up with that.

 

Sex works fine in most situations (incl. xPOP), so no SL problem.

The actors take positions, i get a message about punishment start at 0 seconds, no SL messages at all then followed by a message about how long it took in seconds to finish the invisible sex act.

 

i guess something interrupts the whipping as she fires a dialogue about "stop, don't go now" (or so) instead. Where ever this comes from, i think it's meddling with your mod.

[magicrealm]

 

 

 

Correct, POP does not need DDe, to work correctly.

 

But, if you do not have DDe installed make sure you don't have Devious Devices - Assets and Devious Devices - Integration installed either. 

 

Wearing devious devices at arrest time without DDe installed will break POP.

 

in which mods mcm ? i havent seen it in po mcm. devious equip ? this mod requires ddi and dde, which i want to avoid with non-devious devices.that was my question about.

 

Hi, see Inte's post quoted above. The "Use POP Devices" option is on the last page of the PO MCM (the one for the patch's settings).

 

sorry, no it isnt. i use the actual f version. i tried force newstart, but it does not show up again.

i do have ddassets installed, thats necessary for non devious devices.

 

 

It's in POP MCM. Bellow is POP 8 RC , POP 7f might be slightly different, but the option is the same.

 

 

Thank you for your detailed information Inte. this space (with arrest restraints)  is empty in my mcm.  i use skyui 5.1, SL 1.61b, skse 1.73, fnis 6.2 all the actual ones.

 the first page of po mcm version number says 7e, but it is 7f, i never had 77e installed. also on a brandnew game it is the same empty field, also with the german versiion  same result. so how did you get this text in that space ?