[Sims3][WIP] KinkyWorld v0.37 [Updated: May 3rd 2019]

[landess]

2 hours ago, merkle said:

Resetting doesn't help.

In the past on saves that I have played for years I found one 'solution', but it took a lot of work. In Bridgeport, I moved EVERY family to the bin, noting where they were living (since Sims will move around). I made a brand new game with Bridgeport and moved everyone out and deleted them. Then I moved back in all the 'originals' I saved to the bin. While this had the effect of erasing ALL relationships, they all kept everything else - skills, jobs, inventories, etc.

 

This did effect some jobs which had coworker or boss relationships, as well as issues for things like charisma skill or throwing fundraisers, etc. but the reward was a faster loading game which ran much smoother. Plus I kept all the hard work I did in CAS for the entire population.

 

Pro and cons - like EA: It's in the game......

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, merkle said:

corruption somewhere

I've read a couple of places that once a sim is corrupted, it's done. As with landess moving them to bin, I have heard some say it cleans them, and some say the corrupted files travel there and back with them??? Just one more of the MANY he said, she said problems about sims fixes! A while ago, my Lady got corrupted... forget the issue now, but I had her in bin already, so I added her doppelganger to the household, transferred current clothing from the corrupted one, used cheats to set relations and deleted the corrupted one. IF I have a single corrupted sim, I may first move it to another household using MC and do multiple resets. When that doesn't work, I'll move it to the bin and try as landess said, but the last time it didn't work, and the sim remained corrupted. On a couple of occasions, travel fixed a sim, as (again, maybe landess said) it's not the same sim... thus all the new snaps, as the game is actually creating duplicates to place in the travel world. I guess that sometimes, it filters out whatever was causing the corruption?

 

When you deleted the snaps, how much did the package size reduce?

43 minutes ago, landess said:

People forget EA designed the game without making exceptions for huge worlds...

Some do, or don't know in the first place... we, obviously, understand that EA made TS3 to run vanilla, and that every mod or piece of CC we add is tipping an unstable set up toward it's low breaking threshold. We truly pushed beyond the limits, mostly thanks to Twallan and his Nraas fixes... which why I get so annoyed that Oniki decided to step all over so many of the Nraas mods with things she added to KW over the builds.

[merkle]

Maybe this is heresy, but have any of you tried Sims 4?  It does seem odd that everyone is still playing Sims 3.  Pros/cons?  Steam has an insane sale on Sims 4 right now.  How does the WW mod compare to KW?

[merkle]

4 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

When you deleted the snaps, how much did the package size reduce?

From 213 MB down to 80.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, merkle said:

have any of you tried Sims 4?

No. The most I've done with TS4 is to convert a couple of things... WIP. One, may get uploaded soon, a full conversion of the Plazasims 2B. What I understand is that not being an open world turns off a lot of people. For me, it would be the way CAS options just aren't there. TS4, I make it blue, green and stripes, that's what you get. So, don't know anything about WW either, but there IS a thread here, and you can check there. 

 

I posted my thoughts on the TS3 64 bit reboot rumors. Too many still play 3, don't like 4 and 5 probably isn't going as they had hoped in dev, so back to the cash cow! Oh, MAC doesn't play 32 bit... but they ARE rumored to also be doing a Windows remake too.

 

So, you see the file size saved. Now, for those with a load of other stuff... CAS sims, CC in every saved house, bars placed, etc... things that bloat a save, cutting that 130+ MB helps.

[James2112]

57 minutes ago, merkle said:

Maybe this is heresy, but have any of you tried Sims 4?  It does seem odd that everyone is still playing Sims 3.  Pros/cons?  Steam has an insane sale on Sims 4 right now.  How does the WW mod compare to KW?

I finally took the dive into the sims 4 during this latest sale. At $4.99 hah. It's possible the gameplay isn't near as bad as some might say, I haven't decided yet myself, but Wicked Whims is nowhere near as interesting or complex like Kinky World is. As a comparison, KW has kept me interested in Sims 3. WW won't do that for Sims 4 in the long run, for me at least.

[merkle]

43 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

So, you see the file size saved. Now, for those with a load of other stuff... CAS sims, CC in every saved house, bars placed, etc... things that bloat a save, cutting that 130+ MB helps.

Difference in loading time was negligible.  Loading a saved game includes a lot of stuff going on.  If you shorten something that's only a minor contributor, you're not going to see much of a difference.  Try for yourself and see if it makes a difference for you.  If it does, great, but for me it had no discernable impact.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, merkle said:

Try for yourself and see if it makes a difference for you.

I clean my saves often. Caches are cleared on each start up. Saves get manually cleaned every 5 to 10. When you start with a clean save, AND (unlike you), are running nearly 8GB of CC that is being read on load AND during save, with every other NPC sim customized (can't clean out SIME and SIMO files) and customized home, and community lots, what you call "negligible" can mean the difference between a good save and an error 12. As I said before, as long as you play the way you do, and with only 100 total packages, which is less than I have in just my CC test folder (516 MB), you will be fine.

[merkle]

1 hour ago, LadySmoks said:

I clean my saves often. Caches are cleared on each start up. Saves get manually cleaned every 5 to 10. When you start with a clean save, AND (unlike you), are running nearly 8GB of CC that is being read on load AND during save, with every other NPC sim customized (can't clean out SIME and SIMO files) and customized home, and community lots, what you call "negligible" can mean the difference between a good save and an error 12. As I said before, as long as you play the way you do, and with only 100 total packages, which is less than I have in just my CC test folder (516 MB), you will be fine.

I was speaking more generally.  Some people will see a difference, others won't.  The only way to know is to try it.

 

I added some updates to my earlier post.  SaveCleaner only cleans SNAP entries, not _IMG.  I found this information on cleaning _IMG entries:  Maybe you've seen it before.

 

https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Game_guide:Reducing_the_size_of_a_saved_game

 

I checked my save files and none of the _IMG are on the 'okay to delete' category.  There are only a few hundred.  I'm guessing you're going to have a lot more.

[Guest]

52 minutes ago, merkle said:

I'm guessing you're going to have a lot more.

I clean them all. Too much effort for the reward of going through them all and trying to save the prom pics and things like those.

[landess]

6 hours ago, merkle said:

have any of you tried Sims 4?

Origin? Nope - not happening.

 

I have the Sims 2 and a Bunch of Ep's/Sp's for that.

 

I now have the Sims 3 with All EP's.

 

I know the Sims series well enough to also know the Series has continually removed more stuff from the base game over time and decided to sell it back as part of DLC. Yes the Sims 2 Base game is MORE complex than the Sims 3.

 

$4.99 for the Sims 4 base game is no different than selling people a crack pipe with a single hit left in it.

 

People can do what they want - I'll not be thinking about giving EA any more money, nor subscribing to their Spyware, nor paying over $500 just to have a full game - AGAIN.

 

The 'benefits' of the Sims 3 was enough for me to go ahead and get the rest of the EP's - then walk away and depend on talented creators for any CC needs.

 

>>> Enjoy life while you're young. No sense in being young and cranky. That'll happen in it's own good time as life experience piles enough 'understanding' on you to see some basic truths.

 

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KW is one reason I decided to finish finding and purchasing the remaining EP's on disk - stick that in your pipe and smoke it EA!

[merkle]

2 hours ago, LadySmoks said:

I clean them all. Too much effort for the reward of going through them all and trying to save the prom pics and things like those.

You remove all the _IMG entries?  And you don't have any problems?  All of what I've read says that some of the _IMG entries are essential to the game.  Interesting...

[Anophilius]

Do you know why kinky photos come out blank?

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, merkle said:

some of the _IMG entries are essential

Not in my experience, regarding imgs in the saves. Perhaps they refer to the fact they are memories and pics, but they are far from necessary as far as I'm concerned, and create bloat. As landess said before, I tell you what I do to help MY game run better... use it... don't use it.

[merkle]

12 hours ago, landess said:

Origin? Nope - not happening.

 

I have the Sims 2 and a Bunch of Ep's/Sp's for that.

 

I now have the Sims 3 with All EP's.

 

I know the Sims series well enough to also know the Series has continually removed more stuff from the base game over time and decided to sell it back as part of DLC. Yes the Sims 2 Base game is MORE complex than the Sims 3.

 

$4.99 for the Sims 4 base game is no different than selling people a crack pipe with a single hit left in it.

 

People can do what they want - I'll not be thinking about giving EA any more money, nor subscribing to their Spyware, nor paying over $500 just to have a full game - AGAIN.

 

The 'benefits' of the Sims 3 was enough for me to go ahead and get the rest of the EP's - then walk away and depend on talented creators for any CC needs.

 

>>> Enjoy life while you're young. No sense in being young and cranky. That'll happen in it's own good time as life experience piles enough 'understanding' on you to see some basic truths.

 

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KW is one reason I decided to finish finding and purchasing the remaining EP's on disk - stick that in your pipe and smoke it EA!

To be fair, EA isn't the first one to try this business model.  Gillette used to give away razors for free - but then you had to buy their blades.  And Sims 3 does much the same thing.  You buy  the base game for a pittance and then spend 10X that on EP's.

 

Our situations are a bit different.  You have a lot of $$ invested in S3.  I have only the base game and 2 EP, so the dollar cost of migrating is a lot less for me.  Money isn't the real issue for me - it's time.  I have a lot of time invested in learning S3 and the associated mods.  Moving to S4 would mean starting over and working my way up a new learning curve.  I'd be willing to do that if S4 offered real advantages.  I'm just not sure I see what they would be.  Add to this the likelihood of S5 being released next year.  What's that going to be like?

[Patriguz]

14 minutes ago, merkle said:

  I have a lot of time invested in learning S3 and the associated mods.  Moving to S4 would mean starting over and working my way up a new learning curve.  I'd be willing to do that if S4 offered real advantages.  I'm just not sure I see what they would be.  Add to this the likelihood of S5 being released next year.  What's that going to be like?

That basically sums up my situation, after these years learning to use S3 I start to take advantage of it (I know, I learn slowly but the "trial error" method is what it has). I got the S4 base game really cheap (4 Euros) but I got bored with it very soon and I am not willing to go back to the starting box to end up getting something "almost similar" to what I already have.

[James2112]

10 hours ago, Anophilius said:

Do you know why kinky photos come out blank?

 

Somewhere in the KW Settings menu you have the option of selecting 'High'. Just scroll through the menu options and you will find it. In the past I had thought this setting was about how often npc's autonomously take selfies but I learned here on LL that it had to do with the quality of the photo. 'High' should make sure you have no blank selfie photos. Any photos taken before you change the setting will be blank, so npc's may still wind up sending you blank photos.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Patriguz said:

"trial error"

A big problem these days! No one tries anything. Coddled and told they can't fail... everyone gets a trophy!!! They just create a profile, download something (KW), and post less than 1 hr after they joined the site and say... drum roll please... landess? landess? anyone??? anyone??? "It doesn't work"...

 

Merkle downloaded 3 versions of save cleaner and tried them to see what worked, and continued looking for answers. I couldn't get it to work, but already knew how to use s3pe, so I really never felt the need to look.

 

Kids download it, it doesn't work, and they want someone to come to their basement and set everything up for them!!!

 

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!!!!!!

[landess]

59 minutes ago, LadySmoks said:

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

 

[landess]

9 hours ago, merkle said:

I'd be willing to do that if S4 offered real advantages.

It offers real advantages: One can run S4 on a weaker system and get better performance than S3. S4 is easier to mod, and the amount of mods now available prove that. Just these 2 alone give reason for some to invest in this version of the series. Take a look at the Sims 4 screenshot section. Sometimes it makes me cringe hard, but none the less - the proof is in the pudding.

 

9 hours ago, merkle said:

Add to this the likelihood of S5 being released next year.  What's that going to be like?

Well, 1st off - like previous versions, it's a death sentence for S4. There will be no more content released for S4 once S5 launches.

 

S5 is 'said' to have a multiplayer focus. Using my experience/knowledge from the majority of on-line game means mods from 3rd party/players/public will not be supported and would be reason to 'ban' players. This could go as far as making the game unplayable due to 'lock-out' from the EA servers. See Bethesda: Elder Scrolls online and Fallout 76 for examples - 2 series known for their popularity with the mod user player base and one of the reasons this website exists.

 

To be fair, this doesn't make games completely 'un-moddable'. A good example would be Star Trek Online, where one could replace texture file in their own game to make everyone 'nude', but this would only be seen by the mod user and not anyone else per the 'example mod user' reference - others would also need to do the same thing. This example was also one of the original concepts of mod use, before companies began allowing a modfile framework to be included into the game as default. The Sims series adopted this so they could create a store as well as sell more game copies due to the popularity of player mods. Bethesda also followed suit with the ability for the game to access an official mod 'store'.

 

S5 would likely have a mod store (DUH!) but for players to make their own and use them like we see with S2/3/4 in an online environment is slim to none IMO based on industry experience. Also Players WILL see any store content even if they don't purchase it - so the concept of seeing others have 'cool stuff' and you don't will be emotionally pushed onto those players, creating a shaming environment like a poor kid going to school - I can see it now......  (of course the smart thing to do would be for EA to allow 'gifting' content to others, working the sympathy angle between 'friends' and increasing the profitability of said mechanic)

 

I'm sure Most have heard of the term 'whales' where in-game spending is concerned, and the S5 is likely ground zero for EA's attempt on taking advantage of this mentality. If loot boxes are somehow included in a way, I wouldn't be surprised. This would feed into the gifting of duplicate items. They just have to make the list of objects in a 'lootbox' all the same store value and cheaper than if bought outright. Then playing with the algorithm to make certain objects less 'winnable', and it's game-on.....

 

>>> Say goodbye to the adult content we enjoy today if playing the Sims 5 online. This is obvious, but 'if' there is any Woohoo, how can EA make sure this 'innocent' interaction isn't performed between adults and children players using in-game avatars? It just gets more 'messy' the more one thinks about it......

 

Streaming game play of the Sims 5 will exponentially increase every 'negative' I've theorized above. S5 will need a lot more content available at launch than previous series strategies have used. Like Windows10, the Sims 5 could end up being the final version for a long time. "The Sims 5 is Live" Could end up as The Sims Live or 'SL' without getting sued by Second Life. Never underestimate EA!

[merkle]

2 hours ago, landess said:

It offers real advantages: One can run S4 on a weaker system and get better performance than S3. S4 is easier to mod, and the amount of mods now available prove that. Just these 2 alone give reason for some to invest in this version of the series. Take a look at the Sims 4 screenshot section. Sometimes it makes me cringe hard, but none the less - the proof is in the pudding.

My take on it at this point:

 

Advantages of S4:

• 64 bit game eliminates a lot of the stuff we keep bitching about
• Better graphics - more detailed Sims
• Better interface for building houses or community buildings
• CAS:  drag-and-drop interface for creating Sims
• Lots more mods available
• no World structure makes travelling easier and without the save bloat we observed in S3.  Also makes for faster loading.
• Toddlers eliminated in initial version.  They go right from infant to child.  Toddlers were restored in free update, but why?  They're annoying as hell.

Advantages of S3:

• More stuff included that you would have to buy separately in S4 (stuff packs)
• Nraas mods.  There is something similar for S4, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as feature-rich
• More customizable Sims and objects
• Kinky World vs. Wicked Whims - maybe a small nod to KW.  KW has brothels, high school, whores, drugs, etc. that WW doesn't have (at least as far as I can tell).  OTOH, the creator of WW seems to be actively working on it, while with KW.....
• World structure makes travel within the world easier.  Small neighborhoods in S4 mean a loading screen every time you move from one to the other.  They're not really long, but users do complain about them.
• Cars!!  Also motorcycles, bicycles, etc.

I'm sure I missed some stuff, but like a lot of things, it depends on how you play and how you prioritize these items.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, landess said:

S4 is easier to mod, and the amount of mods now available prove that.

Some look okay, some not so... From what I see, it's a matter of you get what I give you, as I understand there is no retexturing in CAS. I make blue, you get blue. Some CC has 10, 20 swatches! I also think S4 users must not have much imagination. Of the 2900 uploads here, probably half are premade sims, and from the number of downloads, a lot of TS4ers don't bother to customize their sims the way we do.

 

S5 online? They really don't want anyone to buy it!!!!

[Anophilius]

On 11/26/2020 at 8:18 PM, James2112 said:

Somewhere in the KW Settings menu you have the option of selecting 'High'. Just scroll through the menu options and you will find it. In the past I had thought this setting was about how often npc's autonomously take selfies but I learned here on LL that it had to do with the quality of the photo. 'High' should make sure you have no blank selfie photos. Any photos taken before you change the setting will be blank, so npc's may still wind up sending you blank photos.

Thanks dude! I also thought it was all about how often sims spam selfies.

[Guest]

On 11/26/2020 at 9:00 PM, merkle said:

Spoiler

My take on it at this point:

 

Advantages of S4:

• 64 bit game eliminates a lot of the stuff we keep bitching about
• Better graphics - more detailed Sims
• Better interface for building houses or community buildings
• CAS:  drag-and-drop interface for creating Sims
• Lots more mods available
• no World structure makes travelling easier and without the save bloat we observed in S3.  Also makes for faster loading.
• Toddlers eliminated in initial version.  They go right from infant to child.  Toddlers were restored in free update, but why?  They're annoying as hell.

Advantages of S3:

• More stuff included that you would have to buy separately in S4 (stuff packs)
• Nraas mods.  There is something similar for S4, but it doesn't seem to be nearly as feature-rich
• More customizable Sims and objects
• Kinky World vs. Wicked Whims - maybe a small nod to KW.  KW has brothels, high school, whores, drugs, etc. that WW doesn't have (at least as far as I can tell).  OTOH, the creator of WW seems to be actively working on it, while with KW.....
• World structure makes travel within the world easier.  Small neighborhoods in S4 mean a loading screen every time you move from one to the other.  They're not really long, but users do complain about them.
• Cars!!  Also motorcycles, bicycles, etc.

I'm sure I missed some stuff, but like a lot of things, it depends on how you play and how you prioritize these items.

 

I will just add some infos to what you have said.

 

Actually, there is Drugs, but it is not done by Wicked Whims (WW) creator, but from other creator [Loverslab (LL): Basemental Drugs 5.11.120 (Updated Apr 01 2020), By Basemental].

 

With the Sims 4: Discover University, they have included bycycles, at least. of course there would be some people who would complain why it didn't added in the base game supposedly.

 

Also, there is Whores (Prostitution mods) that is created by another creator/s. As far as I know there are about 3 mods that does similar.

 

Also there is High School but, it is also done by another creator (Zerbu - The Sims 4 Go to School Mod Pack V4), not from WW creator. It includes both Elementary School through High School.

[Guitarister]

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