theHatzel Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'ts a good idea, but I can't use my hotkeys anymore. the character is kneeling down when I press the numbers on the top of the keyboard.
galgat Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I think I have finally figured it out, I just gave up too soon. I had not updated "fuzz ro duh" in quite a while, it was behind, I don't think that did it though, My PaprusUtility was not the latest, I installed that latest one, and that seems to have fixed the problem. I just mentioned "fuzz ro duh" because I also updated it at the same time. So far has been functioning correctly. I am very HaPpY.. It was bothering me a lot. I had just resently had to rebuild my entire system, and I have been sorting out some thing's and I just missed the updated PapyrusUtility Update I have that Issue as well Galgat. Where do I find my papyrus logs? Thay are in " C:\Users\YourName\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script "
Guest Real Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 It doesn't seem to be playing nice with deviously cursed loot. When PC has some kind of cursed loot on and you start the captured quest, the wait save ctd, disabling the save causes all kinds of strange bugs and eventually ctd. Also, it'd be nice if being captured during the game didn't bring up "how do you want to start your game." I feel like being captures (vs. starting as a slave) should be some kind of forced and somewhat expedited if possible event, (modifiable when the event is not happening in the mcm). Also, can we get randomized slave owners?
zaira Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Crash after "rotation finished" == PapyrusUtils outdated It doesn't seem to be playing nice with deviously cursed loot. When PC has some kind of cursed loot on and you start the captured quest, the wait save ctd, disabling the save causes all kinds of strange bugs and eventually ctd. Also, it'd be nice if being captured during the game didn't bring up "how do you want to start your game." I feel like being captures (vs. starting as a slave) should be some kind of forced and somewhat expedited if possible event, (modifiable when the event is not happening in the mcm). Also, can we get randomized slave owners? You get forced pretty much if you disable Debug Mode
aqqh Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Loadorder,Papyrus-log??? I have no CtD...only the bug with unshowing messages (mariaFGTopic) When it comes to CTD on save after whipping there is literally nothing in the log. Maybe its not a matter of what can be found there but what is missing... My best bet is that during whipping some event is causing too much of papyrus strain. On some machines it goes fine but on others its lagging. And if you try to save during that lag - CTD. as for messages they do show for me tho plenty of times these are wrong messages - like i'm picked some weapon and owner thinks that i picked money. Point is - they are trying to take money but don't even try to take that weapon. So i was pretty much allowed to use weapons since slavery start...
galgat Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Crash after "rotation finished" == PapyrusUtils outdated Yes I had finally figured that out, It is playing pretty nicely now. Sometimes the master seems to foget there dialogue, and My scene's do not continue. I figure you are working on that. I know my experimentaion with the scenes was that they are very suseptable to any outside influence. And sometimes require patience and waiting before clicking on that button It might be useful to have a few more help choice's in the Cheat menu to unstick some thing's that happen. Really like this mod, your mind has a very wonderfully Erotic manner. I hope snuff of the player does not become the normal for this mod. I have never been a big fan of Snuff, even fictional. But is your Mod, and you should do what feels right to you, I think it is really well thought out. Thank you so Much for sharing it.
zaira Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Well, during whipping I teleport the NPC back to the initial whipping position in intervals - otherwise the NPC would dance around the whipping post. If someone have a better idea how to nail a NPC to a position without disabling its AI please let me know...
zaira Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Snuff in Maria Eden is about bringing some risks into the gameplay - the player should get a feeling of being helpless and being completely at mistress mercy. I can not transport this emotion without the risk of reaching a dead end. Same with creature stuff - the mistress should do something to you what you don't like otherwise I have missed my target - transportation of the feeling of submission
baronesa Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Snuff in Maria Eden is about bringing some risks into the gameplay - the player should get a feeling of being helpless and being completely at mistress mercy. I can not transport this emotion without the risk of reaching a dead end. Same with creature stuff - the mistress should do something to you what you don't like otherwise I have missed my target - transportation of the feeling of submission But here comes the itneresting question... as she starts to like you, more and more... would she stop doing that? let's say you stick around and manage to raise her disposition to 3 or 4... Would she still do that or would she become more of a caring Domme? (I guess if she offers you freedom and you choose to remain HER slave, that should totally please her, right?)
Guest Zentari2238 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But here comes the itneresting question... as she starts to like you, more and more... would she stop doing that? let's say you stick around and manage to raise her disposition to 3 or 4... Would she still do that or would she become more of a caring Domme? (I guess if she offers you freedom and you choose to remain HER slave, that should totally please her, right?) Now, this is an interesting question. Haven't got to messing around with the settings much yet so I would like to know . As a secondary question , how exactly random are the npc's answers when whoring yourself out ? Does it change , say, on higher speechcraft or something ? Can it be improved ? Or is it total RNG ?
webb71 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I think I have finally figured it out, I just gave up too soon. I had not updated "fuzz ro duh" in quite a while, it was behind, I don't think that did it though, My PaprusUtility was not the latest, I installed that latest one, and that seems to have fixed the problem. I just mentioned "fuzz ro duh" because I also updated it at the same time. So far has been functioning correctly. I am very HaPpY.. It was bothering me a lot. I had just resently had to rebuild my entire system, and I have been sorting out some thing's and I just missed the updated PapyrusUtility Update I have that Issue as well Galgat. Where do I find my papyrus logs? Thay are in " C:\Users\YourName\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script " Hmm I must not have logging enabled since I don't have that folder. Wasnt fuz ro doh last updated in 2013? Or is it on a site other than the nexus now?
aqqh Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But here comes the itneresting question... as she starts to like you, more and more... would she stop doing that? let's say you stick around and manage to raise her disposition to 3 or 4... Would she still do that or would she become more of a caring Domme? (I guess if she offers you freedom and you choose to remain HER slave, that should totally please her, right?) That's something i'm opting for since the very beginning - as relationship raises your owner should treat you less like a whore and more as a toy for personal use. So at relationship 3+ it could look more like mavias msex. Less prostitution quests and more orders to serve your owner personally. For example whore quests could not be triggered at all as long as you provide money coming from whatever source. Or it could be done that high relationship character would be ordered to work as a whore as a punishment for disappointing your owner. Well, during whipping I teleport the NPC back to the initial whipping position in intervals - otherwise the NPC would dance around the whipping post. If someone have a better idea how to nail a NPC to a position without disabling its AI please let me know... you could try to set UseWeapon whipping package to Use Weapon Location - ref player alias, radius around 100. Like this Vess is an alias of an NPC. Did that once. Result was one NPC whipping another without moving around at all. Not sure which one is better. All that running they do during whipping doesn't look very convincing imo. especially if they charge and miss
webb71 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Started a new game and enabled logging and everything is working well now. Not sure which fixed it. When the catplay scenario comes up and they tell me to get on all fours nothing happens. Is there a way to get on all fours?
trellouk Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 It is a static animation activated with a hotkey. Try pressing 4 or 5 on your keyboard if i remember correctly. All horizontal numbers 1-9 on the keyboard have specific player animations for this mod Started a new game and enabled logging and everything is working well now. Not sure which fixed it. When the catplay scenario comes up and they tell me to get on all fours nothing happens. Is there a way to get on all fours?
zaira Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Started a new game and enabled logging and everything is working well now. Not sure which fixed it. When the catplay scenario comes up and they tell me to get on all fours nothing happens. Is there a way to get on all fours? press 4 But here comes the itneresting question... as she starts to like you, more and more... would she stop doing that? let's say you stick around and manage to raise her disposition to 3 or 4... Would she still do that or would she become more of a caring Domme? (I guess if she offers you freedom and you choose to remain HER slave, that should totally please her, right?) That's something i'm opting for since the very beginning - as relationship raises your owner should treat you less like a whore and more as a toy for personal use. So at relationship 3+ it could look more like mavias msex. Less prostitution quests and more orders to serve your owner personally. For example whore quests could not be triggered at all as long as you provide money coming from whatever source. Or it could be done that high relationship character would be ordered to work as a whore as a punishment for disappointing your owner. I want this too very much but this is complicated - the state machine for relation ship become more complex. But it will come. msex is my ideal. Currently the relationship has influences on mini jobs and some quests - and the amount of pocket money and if you are allowed to carry weapons. But here comes the itneresting question... as she starts to like you, more and more... would she stop doing that? let's say you stick around and manage to raise her disposition to 3 or 4... Would she still do that or would she become more of a caring Domme? (I guess if she offers you freedom and you choose to remain HER slave, that should totally please her, right?) Now, this is an interesting question. Haven't got to messing around with the settings much yet so I would like to know . As a secondary question , how exactly random are the npc's answers when whoring yourself out ? Does it change , say, on higher speechcraft or something ? Can it be improved ? Or is it total RNG ? 20% random and sexual stats of the NPC. The morality of the NPC defines if he like to become your pimp or reject payment.
volfin Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Just some general observations about compatibility I've found while starting to use this mod. I have a pretty stable setup now and rarely CTD (but given i have over 200 mods running, I expect a few CTDs ) : Mods that seem to conflict with Maria: Sanguine's Debauchery + Sexlab Dialogues Devioiusly Enslaved Deviously Cursed Loot Amazing Follower Tweaks Sexlab Submit Mods that seem to coexist peacefully: Devious Devices - Integration Devious Devices - Expansion More Nasty Critters Xas Prison Overhaul Horrified Female Prisons Realistic Needs and Diseases Schlongs of Skyrim Convenient Horses GagSFX Captured Dreams Sexlab Skooma Whore This is by no means a complete list and your mileage may vary. But Generally it seems mods that override default dialog or force events tend to conflict more than other more passive mods. Also mods that force a collar on you will often knock the Maria collar off, which is not that great (but luckily not completely game breaking).
jxm Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Snuff in Maria Eden is about bringing some risks into the gameplay - the player should get a feeling of being helpless and being completely at mistress mercy. I can not transport this emotion without the risk of reaching a dead end. Same with creature stuff - the mistress should do something to you what you don't like otherwise I have missed my target - transportation of the feeling of submission In regards to the above I was thinking: Many of the sex-scenes as a whore/in the taverns etc you get to choose what is done to you via menu. Wouldn't it be more immersive if, just as you wrote yourself, the player wouldn't have any choice about what a customer wants from him/her?
zaira Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Snuff in Maria Eden is about bringing some risks into the gameplay - the player should get a feeling of being helpless and being completely at mistress mercy. I can not transport this emotion without the risk of reaching a dead end. Same with creature stuff - the mistress should do something to you what you don't like otherwise I have missed my target - transportation of the feeling of submission In regards to the above I was thinking: Many of the sex-scenes as a whore/in the taverns etc you get to choose what is done to you via menu. Wouldn't it be more immersive if, just as you wrote yourself, the player wouldn't have any choice about what a customer wants from him/her? Disable debug mode...
webb71 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 It is a static animation activated with a hotkey. Try pressing 4 or 5 on your keyboard if i remember correctly. All horizontal numbers 1-9 on the keyboard have specific player animations for this mod Started a new game and enabled logging and everything is working well now. Not sure which fixed it. When the catplay scenario comes up and they tell me to get on all fours nothing happens. Is there a way to get on all fours? Ah, thank you sir. That's pretty fuckin impressive.
baronesa Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Noticed something strange. After becoming Maria Eden's slave, my character race was changed from Nord to Imperial. Anyone else here got their race changed?
zaira Posted March 25, 2015 Author Posted March 25, 2015 Noticed something strange. After becoming Maria Eden's slave, my character race was changed from Nord to Imperial. Anyone else here got their race changed? There is no such functionality in ME. Sounds like a Skyrim virus
dogface Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 It's happened to me too when loading Maria Eden on a save that previously didn't have it. I went into TESedit and changed the edit of Player npc's race from Nord to Imperial and it doesn't happen again.
Monoman1 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 think it might be something specific to the LAL plugin
volfin Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I had noticed that for some reason the Maria.ESP overwrites the Imperial and Nord Races, but no other races. I'm not sure if it's intentional or just a dirty edit. Comparing, the changes seem to be minor, so I'm not sure it's intentional. for Imperial race, Some attack data is duplicated. for Nord race, not only attack data, but the default hair colors is modified. I'm guessing that edit is for the benefit of Maria herself, but really hair colors should be set in the NPC definition, not the race definition. I already play Imperial so not sure about it switching to Imperial.
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