A7X Nightmare Posted March 29, 2015 Posted March 29, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character. I agree with you, but there were so many requests to allow fem-fem animations with a strap on that I recently changed it to allow those animations. I guess what I should do is add an MCM option to disable strap-on use, but that would be considerable work. If there is more interest in this, I would be happy to do it.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Hi again to the creators of this amazing mod. Just a technical information from an unskilled noob: is there a way to add via console to a female PC (who got addicted to Volkar) the ecstasy (lust explosion) and "uncontrollable craving" effects that are typical of the sexslaves? Or does it need a specific script? Sorry for the question, as I said I'm just a player with no modding competence but I'd really like to try to add these effects to my PC. Thanks. Sorry, but I did not entirely understand the question. Are you asking for the lust explosion spell to go off after performing oral sex on Volkar? If that is your request, there is currently no way for that to happen for EVERY oral sex encounter because some of them are scripted and the time for the lust explosion to complete would break the scene. However, I could easily add it as an additional dialog option. I am going to ask Darkminxi for some suitable dialog for this. Also, I am not entirely clear on what you would want this "uncontrollable craving" with a lust explosion to be. I can do that when her arousal gets too high and it has been too long since she has visited volkar. Is this what you would want to happen?
Sacremas Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Since you're probably very familiar with how Aroused works, how about somehting that changes how that works while a female PC is enslaved to Volkar, make arousal grow faster and decrease less on anything but sex with Volkar, have sex with others and it only goes down a tiny bit, have sex with Volkar and it vanishes entirely. It needs to only be for females actually enslaved to Volkar however.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Since you're probably very familiar with how Aroused works, how about somehting that changes how that works while a female PC is enslaved to Volkar, make arousal grow faster and decrease less on anything but sex with Volkar, have sex with others and it only goes down a tiny bit, have sex with Volkar and it vanishes entirely. It needs to only be for females actually enslaved to Volkar however. Great idea, and really easy to do. Aroused Redux has a ModEvent() method that makes it a breeze but that wouldn't work for regular Aroused. I'll pass this by Darkminxi and see what she thinks.
A7X Nightmare Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character. I agree with you, but there were so many requests to allow fem-fem animations with a strap on that I recently changed it to allow those animations. I guess what I should do is add an MCM option to disable strap-on use, but that would be considerable work. If there is more interest in this, I would be happy to do it.Are you saying female characters are supposed to use a strap on when they have sex with a female sex slave? If so, I wouldn't mind the male-female animations as much, but I don't think my character used one.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character. I agree with you, but there were so many requests to allow fem-fem animations with a strap on that I recently changed it to allow those animations. I guess what I should do is add an MCM option to disable strap-on use, but that would be considerable work. If there is more interest in this, I would be happy to do it.Are you saying female characters are supposed to use a strap on when they have sex with a female sex slave? If so, I wouldn't mind the male-female animations as much, but I don't think my character used one. Can you be specific about what situation you were in (i.e. what dialog choice you made or what your slave did spontaneously) and what animation resulted? And, just to verify, you are playing a female PC right?
A7X Nightmare Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character. I agree with you, but there were so many requests to allow fem-fem animations with a strap on that I recently changed it to allow those animations. I guess what I should do is add an MCM option to disable strap-on use, but that would be considerable work. If there is more interest in this, I would be happy to do it.Are you saying female characters are supposed to use a strap on when they have sex with a female sex slave? If so, I wouldn't mind the male-female animations as much, but I don't think my character used one. Can you be specific about what situation you were in (i.e. what dialog choice you made or what your slave did spontaneously) and what animation resulted? And, just to verify, you are playing a female PC right? When freeing Jenny Winglow, she wants to come with you as a follower. If you say yes, she gets on her knees and wants to have sex first. My character is female and the animation that played was a male-female blowjob animation. The way I understood your previous post, a female PC is supposed to use a strap on in these situations (correct me if I'm wrong), but mine didn't. Or at least not that I noticed, because I reloaded shortly after the animation began.
Sacremas Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Not equipping the strapon is a very common issue, if you go into your inventory and find Calyps Strapon you'll see it's equipped but it's not actually showing up, click it in order to unequip it and the game will tell you can't unequip this item, but it will then appear on your character. It's a very annoying bug that I hope upcoming version of Framework fixes, and it's half the reason why I usually play as Futa as that actually reacts faster and works better in most situations. And in this case also makes much more sense since she's not getting anything to bond with from that strapon, and strapon blowjobos are silly anyway.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting mod so far. The only thing I don't like is when I recruit a sex slave, she wants to get it on, but my character is female, and the animation is a male-female animation. It just looks really weird (and kind of immersion breaking) to receive a bj when playing a female character.I agree with you, but there were so many requests to allow fem-fem animations with a strap on that I recently changed it to allow those animations. I guess what I should do is add an MCM option to disable strap-on use, but that would be considerable work. If there is more interest in this, I would be happy to do it.Are you saying female characters are supposed to use a strap on when they have sex with a female sex slave? If so, I wouldn't mind the male-female animations as much, but I don't think my character used one.Can you be specific about what situation you were in (i.e. what dialog choice you made or what your slave did spontaneously) and what animation resulted? And, just to verify, you are playing a female PC right?When freeing Jenny Winglow, she wants to come with you as a follower. If you say yes, she gets on her knees and wants to have sex first. My character is female and the animation that played was a male-female blowjob animation. The way I understood your previous post, a female PC is supposed to use a strap on in these situations (correct me if I'm wrong), but mine didn't. Or at least not that I noticed, because I reloaded shortly after the animation began. The blowjob animation for the Jenny scene or for any scene that is oral sex is supposed to be Lesbian if the PC is female. I just changed this by request to use SexLab.GetAnimationsByTag(2, "Lesbian", RequireAll = false) instead of SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Lesbian"). The get animationbytag should return "Arrok Lesbian", "Tribadism, "Zyn Lesbian", and "Zyn Licking". Not sure what "Tribadism" is, but the other three are Oral sex. I guess I should add an oral tag for this as well. I am guessing that is the issue. Edit: Just tried Triadism and that is rubbing pussies together, so the only thing I can think of is that the game does not consider you a female. Edit 2: I just looked at the code and the Jenny script uses "Arrok Lesbian" by name. The only way this was not chosen is if the game thinks you are male. (thePlayer.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 1)
A7X Nightmare Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Well I'm able to get sex slave training from Volkar. I wouldn't be able to do that if the game considered my PC male, right?
Sacremas Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I'm using Sexlab Cumshot to define my character as transgender, I have a SOS schlong able to come, and I still got lesbian for that scene. So yeah, something's very wrong with your character.
darkminxi Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 (so, I tried to get married, first time Jenny jumped me mid ceremony, 'causing the "I do" dialog to cancel, failing the ceremony. So, reload, satisfy her *then* go in. This time Sasha jumps me, 'causing the same problem. So, reload. Satisfy Jenny *and* Sasha, go in. Bride isn't there. (No clue why, maybe satisfying both of them took too long throwing the timing off?) No clue why? You're joking right? lol So...imagine you're about to get married and YOUR beloved starts humping some sexslave in the ceremony room - would YOU stick around? I think not!!!
aqqh Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 (so, I tried to get married, first time Jenny jumped me mid ceremony, 'causing the "I do" dialog to cancel, failing the ceremony. So, reload, satisfy her *then* go in. This time Sasha jumps me, 'causing the same problem. So, reload. Satisfy Jenny *and* Sasha, go in. Bride isn't there. (No clue why, maybe satisfying both of them took too long throwing the timing off?) No clue why? You're joking right? lol So...imagine you're about to get married and YOUR beloved starts humping some sexslave in the ceremony room - would YOU stick around? I think not!!! In the ceremony room? i bet he was humping them in front of the altar Btw this situation is so hilarious that we should make it intended - so each time player tries to marry someone a sexslave would barge in with "You shall not take away my master!"
Sacremas Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Unless you're marrying a sexslave of course, then she should just go "oooh I love to share!"
germanicus Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Btw this situation is so hilarious that we should make it intended - so each time player tries to marry someone a sexslave would barge in with "You shall not take away my master!" LOL - That's why I like Fishburger. Adding to sex slaves extreme love toward their master fulfils all my needs. They will fight for their master, protect him till their death (although they can't die), they will fulfil all his sexual desires, they will do nasty and kinky stuff for him like group sex. No wife will do that, but divorce you. Who needs to get married when having ideal sex partner. I don't . If I, god forbid, sexually neglect my slave, she will take me anyway. Fishburger, your rule. If you ever change that.. listen what the Ahmed the dead terrorist is telling you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFijMqKeX48
xesfer Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Hi again to the creators of this amazing mod. Just a technical information from an unskilled noob: is there a way to add via console to a female PC (who got addicted to Volkar) the ecstasy (lust explosion) and "uncontrollable craving" effects that are typical of the sexslaves? Or does it need a specific script? Sorry for the question, as I said I'm just a player with no modding competence but I'd really like to try to add these effects to my PC. Thanks. Sorry, but I did not entirely understand the question. Are you asking for the lust explosion spell to go off after performing oral sex on Volkar? If that is your request, there is currently no way for that to happen for EVERY oral sex encounter because some of them are scripted and the time for the lust explosion to complete would break the scene. However, I could easily add it as an additional dialog option. I am going to ask Darkminxi for some suitable dialog for this. Also, I am not entirely clear on what you would want this "uncontrollable craving" with a lust explosion to be. I can do that when her arousal gets too high and it has been too long since she has visited volkar. Is this what you would want to happen? Hi Fishburger Thanks for your care and I'm sorry if I was not clear enough. What I mean are two different effects: 1) adding to a female PC who accepted to be bonded to Volkar (the one who chose Volkar's armor instead of breaking the contract) a lust explosion effect that triggers at the end of any additional "training" visit to Volkar (starting when the lesson ends). 2) For "uncontrollable craving" with lust explosion I mean something similar to what you wrote. What I was thinking is an effect that activates by itself (I like the idea to have it activated when your female pc stays too long away from Volkar) and that she can stop only by visiting him, consisting in: I) Unexpected lust explosions triggering on their own; II) Sex frenzy urges compelling you to relieve by yourself or with the help your followers or whatever else available (I turned my favourite follower into a sexslave and everytime she screams that she cannot resist anymore and she literally grabs my pc - and it happens quite often - I think that a good sexslave pc needs this effect too). Moreover it could be funny to have this effect linked to a "female pc addiction to Volkar system". I don't know if this is feasible, but maybe this could happen reducing the arousal/timing threshold that triggers the effect according to the number of training lessons she receives from Volkar. Thank you again.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Btw this situation is so hilarious that we should make it intended - so each time player tries to marry someone a sexslave would barge in with "You shall not take away my master!" You know, I really like this. It would or could be too funny.
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Well I'm able to get sex slave training from Volkar. I wouldn't be able to do that if the game considered my PC male, right? That is sorta true. Volkar will train you if GetIsSex = Female or a follower otherwise. This however is a dialog condition. After reading the Bethesda documentation, they say it is the same as ActorBase.getSex(). However, what you are reporting is that they are not the same. If Jenny did a male animation on you, GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() is returning 0 (Male). Here is the entirety of the code and even if you cannot fully understand papyrus script, this should be clear: if(thePlayer.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 0) anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Blowjob") else anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Lesbian") endif Do you have some mod or mods that might make this confusing to the game?
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Hi again to the creators of this amazing mod. Just a technical information from an unskilled noob: is there a way to add via console to a female PC (who got addicted to Volkar) the ecstasy (lust explosion) and "uncontrollable craving" effects that are typical of the sexslaves? Or does it need a specific script? Sorry for the question, as I said I'm just a player with no modding competence but I'd really like to try to add these effects to my PC. Thanks. Sorry, but I did not entirely understand the question. Are you asking for the lust explosion spell to go off after performing oral sex on Volkar? If that is your request, there is currently no way for that to happen for EVERY oral sex encounter because some of them are scripted and the time for the lust explosion to complete would break the scene. However, I could easily add it as an additional dialog option. I am going to ask Darkminxi for some suitable dialog for this. Also, I am not entirely clear on what you would want this "uncontrollable craving" with a lust explosion to be. I can do that when her arousal gets too high and it has been too long since she has visited volkar. Is this what you would want to happen? Hi Fishburger Thanks for your care and I'm sorry if I was not clear enough. What I mean are two different effects: 1) adding to a female PC who accepted to be bonded to Volkar (the one who chose Volkar's armor instead of breaking the contract) a lust explosion effect that triggers at the end of any additional "training" visit to Volkar (starting when the lesson ends). 2) For "uncontrollable craving" with lust explosion I mean something similar to what you wrote. What I was thinking is an effect that activates by itself (I like the idea to have it activated when your female pc stays too long away from Volkar) and that she can stop only by visiting him, consisting in: I) Unexpected lust explosions triggering on their own; II) Sex frenzy urges compelling you to relieve by yourself or with the help your followers or whatever else available (I turned my favourite follower into a sexslave and everytime she screams that she cannot resist anymore and she literally grabs my pc - and it happens quite often - I think that a good sexslave pc needs this effect too). Moreover it could be funny to have this effect linked to a "female pc addiction to Volkar system". I don't know if this is feasible, but maybe this could happen reducing the arousal/timing threshold that triggers the effect according to the number of training lessons she receives from Volkar. Thank you again. I think I understand now, thanks. Is there any other interest in this? This is obviously for female PCs only.
A7X Nightmare Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Well I'm able to get sex slave training from Volkar. I wouldn't be able to do that if the game considered my PC male, right? That is sorta true. Volkar will train you if GetIsSex = Female or a follower otherwise. This however is a dialog condition. After reading the Bethesda documentation, they say it is the same as ActorBase.getSex(). However, what you are reporting is that they are not the same. If Jenny did a male animation on you, GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() is returning 0 (Male). Here is the entirety of the code and even if you cannot fully understand papyrus script, this should be clear: if(thePlayer.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 0) anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Blowjob") else anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Lesbian") endif Do you have some mod or mods that might make this confusing to the game? I'm not sure. I'm not tech savvy when it comes to this stuff. I am using a few other sexlab mods. Upon further testing though, I found out I still get the Arrok Lesbian animation. It just plays after the male-female animation ends. These are the animations that played. Tested on Jenn -Arrok Boobjob (without strap on) -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Sasha -Arrok Blowjob (Sasha had a strap on) -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Sasha again -Zap_Armb_Boobjob01 -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Jenn again -Arrok Sitting Foreplay (looks good for female on female) -Arrok Lesbian At least I am getting the Arrok Lesbian animation. It's just gotta play another random animation first. Is this usually what happens?
fishburger67 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Posted March 30, 2015 Well I'm able to get sex slave training from Volkar. I wouldn't be able to do that if the game considered my PC male, right? That is sorta true. Volkar will train you if GetIsSex = Female or a follower otherwise. This however is a dialog condition. After reading the Bethesda documentation, they say it is the same as ActorBase.getSex(). However, what you are reporting is that they are not the same. If Jenny did a male animation on you, GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() is returning 0 (Male). Here is the entirety of the code and even if you cannot fully understand papyrus script, this should be clear: if(thePlayer.GetLeveledActorBase().GetSex() == 0) anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Blowjob") else anims[0] = SexLab.GetAnimationByName("Arrok Lesbian") endif Do you have some mod or mods that might make this confusing to the game? I'm not sure. I'm not tech savvy when it comes to this stuff. I am using a few other sexlab mods. Upon further testing though, I found out I still get the Arrok Lesbian animation. It just plays after the male-female animation ends. These are the animations that played. Tested on Jenn -Arrok Boobjob (without strap on) -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Sasha -Arrok Blowjob (Sasha had a strap on) -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Sasha again -Zap_Armb_Boobjob01 -Arrok Lesbian Tested on Jenn again -Arrok Sitting Foreplay (looks good for female on female) -Arrok Lesbian At least I am getting the Arrok Lesbian animation. It's just gotta play another random animation first. Is this usually what happens? All blowjob animations "Take my cum in your mouth" should be lesbian. The other paired animations should all be with you wearing a strapon. If this is not what you see, try running FNIS again.
GnatB Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Just throwing a possibility out here, is it possible that you have the option in sexlab to do foreplay animation before sex? Possibly that's adding that "random" animation before the lesbian one?
Sacremas Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Just throwing a possibility out here, is it possible that you have the option in sexlab to do foreplay animation before sex? Possibly that's adding that "random" animation before the lesbian one? Exactly, that's exactly what's happening, just normal Sexlab Foreplay animations, and they don't care about mod settings. If you get something that's inapproriate use numpad 0 to change the scene. Although I prefer to turn off foreplay when playing this mod, it gets stilly with the training, same with undress anims.
A7X Nightmare Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah, I did have that turned. It works pretty well with a prostitution mod I have. I feel pretty silly now
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