Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[DonQuiWho]

@Kimy

 

Dagonar Prison

 

In defeating a dragon trying to reduce Solitude to ashes, I inadvertently sent an arrow into a guard's knee.  Rightly pissed off, they decided that a trip to prison was required.  For FOUR days

 

Everything there does seem to work wonderfully well.  Slowly.  Very very slowly.  In fact one day takes a real life hour ++

 

Now, while I appreciate that the player definitely should face some disruptive penalties for making mistakes, and also that there are people who really really really do like the intense drudgery of such an experience, at my age, taking 4 or 5+ hours to work through that is just a bit too much, especially when given that my remaining lifespan is getting shorter by the day - an issue that becomes particularly acute in one's thinking as you approach the threescore and ten

 

I'm sure I raised this before - I even think I might have sent you a DM with some ideas as to how the experience could be tolerably spiced up to be a bit more exciting - but, whilst I know that you may well be planning changes here for vNINE, for goodness sake please, PLEASE!, at least include an option to reduce the sentence to something which makes playing the game more tolerable

 

Please?  Pretty, please?

 

?

 

EDIT: Before yopu all pile in to tell me that you can shut off the prison experience in the MCM yadda yadda, I know that, but to do that to avoid any sort of penalty is just plain cheating, so No, I'm not doing that either.  Anyway, I've already worked out an acceptable way of cheating meantime ? 

[hungvipbcsok]

1 hour ago, Elsidia said:

Don't you try frigid wash? I decide to complete trapped in rubber with DCL - i never trigger a traps or masturbate - only if i forgot to drink a bottle) Also some masturbate got when long scenes or ball gag got by trapped rubber. About 10 hours in RL to play without problems.

frigid wash will remove the horny buff which increase carry 150, which is something i really need.

[Enigmans]

15 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I found the best way is (if I pretend not to know anything about DCL):

> use LAL + DCL LAL addon

> start with the DCL LAL addon and work from there (you end up near Helgen at some point, just enter the Helgen dungeons)

> from there you find a new follower that leads you to Dawnstar with a quest

> (or just visit the Dawnstar right away and look for what DCL added to the town)

> (also visit Whiterun's tavern and look for DCL added NPC)

> (trigger some of the unique DCL container traps by looting like crazy)

> dare to be a criminal! =D

Thank you very much!

 

[Enigmans]

15 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Some quest trigger when you open cursed container. some quest are in [] in NPC dialogs, some quest are in Dollmaker shop, Chloe quest trigger when enter in Helgen keep. Cursed collar can be found in one of tower prison near Whiterun (don't remember tower name). Some quest trigger when harvest a crops.

Thank you very much!

[Elsidia]

33 minutes ago, donkeywho said:

PLEASE!, at least include an option to reduce the sentence to something which makes playing the game more tolerable

4 days? - it's low term i got usually 8 )

And there is - i spent in prison 1 day - max 2 days.

You can do the quest and escape from prison - if you are lucky or do reload - at first night.

If not lucky or not reload - usually can be done in second night. If randomizer not so hard and you hide a necessary items before try to steal next.

Also if you got caught - day end and you can sleep to next day.

 

Edited: take of my text

 

[Elsidia]

47 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I think Dagnor Prison escape is mandatory

With kinky settings i escape almost in first day even without load. If not lucky got caught on speak with prisoner or stuck in jacket when try to cut it off.

One time got caught when try to take out crowbar.

 

[Elsidia]

11 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Stop the cheating

I say without load i get out in second day - have sentence of 18 day - thanks to mistress - where there is cheating? I'm not reload a game. And first time when i learn how to escape i do it in first time. And i prefer not to go in prison - max times i be here 5 or 6.

And when you repeat the same day in 20 times there no more fetish))

 

[thedarkone1234]

31 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I give you that.

The days get repetitive to quick, which also makes the escape too easy, because you know already how the prison routine works after a day or two.

It would be better if all those daily tasks would be randomized a bit over the week and not everything DCL Prison has to offer happens on one day/every day.

I would like that. Would also not make it neccesarily possible to escape in the first day, because you might miss out on an event you need to get some item

[Kimy]

13 hours ago, donkeywho said:

@Kimy

 

Dagonar Prison

 

In defeating a dragon trying to reduce Solitude to ashes, I inadvertently sent an arrow into a guard's knee.  Rightly pissed off, they decided that a trip to prison was required.  For FOUR days

 

Everything there does seem to work wonderfully well.  Slowly.  Very very slowly.  In fact one day takes a real life hour ++

 

Now, while I appreciate that the player definitely should face some disruptive penalties for making mistakes, and also that there are people who really really really do like the intense drudgery of such an experience, at my age, taking 4 or 5+ hours to work through that is just a bit too much, especially when given that my remaining lifespan is getting shorter by the day - an issue that becomes particularly acute in one's thinking as you approach the threescore and ten

 

I'm sure I raised this before - I even think I might have sent you a DM with some ideas as to how the experience could be tolerably spiced up to be a bit more exciting - but, whilst I know that you may well be planning changes here for vNINE, for goodness sake please, PLEASE!, at least include an option to reduce the sentence to something which makes playing the game more tolerable

 

Please?  Pretty, please?

 

?

 

EDIT: Before yopu all pile in to tell me that you can shut off the prison experience in the MCM yadda yadda, I know that, but to do that to avoid any sort of penalty is just plain cheating, so No, I'm not doing that either.  Anyway, I've already worked out an acceptable way of cheating meantime ? 

There will be significant changes/additions coming to the prison in DCL 9.

[Kimy]

15 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

This is exactly why we should keep having it configurable, so we can use our brains to adjust to the circumstances. Does my load order have a mod that makes arousal fluctuate? Then make it affect DCL less, or disable the auto-masturbation. If I don't have such a problem, these are actually cool features that I would like to boost even more. The argument of compatibility is IN FAVOR of more manual MCM control, not less.

I have no plans to cull the controls for traps, or surrender, or sex attacks etc. What I am looking at is removing some or most of the controls for DCL's quests. Quest content normally cannot be configured in any game, so there would be very little harm, IMHO.

[thedarkone1234]

24 minutes ago, Kimy said:

I have no plans to cull the controls for traps, or surrender, or sex attacks etc. What I am looking at is removing some or most of the controls for DCL's quests. Quest content normally cannot be configured in any game, so there would be very little harm, IMHO.

Ahhh. I see. Makes a lot of sense there. Though keep in mind the compatibility of need mods and the cursed collar, as well as disabling fast travel there might be a bit too much of a game changer/breaker for some players.

Personally I wouldn't feel anything terrible happened if I lost all configuration on the rubber collar quest. It will just be paced more like it is supposed to be. Maybe except for the "allow hoods that blind". Being stuck with a blindfold for a long time can be problematic. In my game I can see nothing when blindfolded in dark places (and love it that way).

Chloe's quest has no MCM and I didn't see so many complaining, so I guess that is the test: "Don't take their sight and teleport them to far places when needed (or allow teleports) and we will manage "

Just my two cents of course. I think many mods could learn from this mod's design. It was the first mod I ever used (with all the requirements ofc) and I still found it quite intuitive

[Mr.Nobody000]

On 7/22/2020 at 6:51 PM, Boulo_92 said:

 

wow.... It actually worked! Thank you kind sir.

 

thats why i love this community..

[DonQuiWho]

3 hours ago, Kimy said:

There will be significant changes/additions coming to the prison in DCL 9.

Amen to that

 

I finished up the current sentence, and timed my last day there. 

 

46min.  For 1 skyrim day.  Starting Skyrim time @ 0800 in the morning and ending @ 0140 next day.  As for what that did with the parole and sleeping time ..... ?

 

But, trying hard as ever to contribute something else constructive, what maybe also doesn't actually help you here are other mods adding 'slow' movement effects, egs

 

- Fill her Up. Apropos Wear and Tear.  The screen shots show what was a cumulative 26% reduction in movement speed from those two

- possibly other similar, not directly visible, speed impediments, such as the Boots and Hobble Skirts 'Slow Down' effects selectable in DD

 

If those are all cumulative, it's hardly surprising that trying to sweep up dirt piles, and find stuff in sacks and barrels, are something to do whilst looking at your Twitter feed ... ?

 

EDIT:  And every time one of those nasty chappies in the prison has his wicked way, the slow down effect can increase ... ?

 

I love the prison and its basic concepts.  Anything you can do to alleviate the mind numbing boredom of such other irritations would be welcome

 

Hope that helps

 

[Kimy]

I don't use any of these mods. DCL has a FHU-like feature, so I don't need it. And Apropos is waaaaay too vulgar for my taste. I don't think I will ever design any DCL feature around either of these mods. Multiple mods changing SpeedAV at the same time isn't going to work well...

[DonQuiWho]

4 minutes ago, Kimy said:

I don't use any of these mods. DCL has a FHU-like feature, so I don't need it. And Apropos is waaaaay too vulgar for my taste. I don't think I will ever design any DCL feature around either of these mods. Multiple mods changing SpeedAV at the same time isn't going to work well...

Yeah.  I think these guys got there first ... :-)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So0ZrTwf8vI

 

 

[Elsidia]

6 hours ago, Kimy said:

What I am looking at is removing some or most of the controls

Deleted - because i'm stupid. Sorry.

[stas2503]

Mmm ... Is there a source script in the mod that contains the Quest Property with quests from the mod? Or do I need to create your own standalone library with a list of quests?

[Kimy]

56 minutes ago, stas2503 said:

Mmm ... Is there a source script in the mod that contains the Quest Property with quests from the mod? Or do I need to create your own standalone library with a list of quests?

The mastercontroller script has at least most quests.

[stas2503]

@Kimy Thanks.

Just to clarify. Calling this function should start the dcur_lbquest quest?

Function myFunction()
	dclibs dcur = None 
	dcur = Game.GetFormFromFile(0x00024495, "Deviously Cursed Loot.esp") As dclibs
	dcur.mcs.lbqs.startquest()
EndFunction

or is it better to directly connect the libraries to the script via property?

[xtirp8]

Hi, such a problem, after the rape I was thrown to a random location, as if everything is fine, but during attempts to get rid of the bonds, the animation does not play, but there are sounds. Is this how it should be or am I missing something? FNIS launched, in the mod files I did not find suitable animations.

 

 

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, xtirp8 said:

FNIS launched, in the mod files I did not find suitable animations.

I think there no animations because you hear only sound.

[woodie99]

hi anybody else have a issue with nexus mod manager ? it get to 50% and stalls  and a second  question if you don,t mind please does devious cursed loot and other devious mods work with custom races such as temptress or lunari ?

[Laoise Sí]

Using smaller breast sizes with the catsuits (I believe they're from this mod and not the assets?) causes a really ugly bump above and below the breasts and a raised centre between as if they have no weight set? Sorry if it's not this mod but I can't seem to find anything on this.

[Elsidia]

23 minutes ago, ZootyBooty said:

Sorry if it's not this mod but I can't seem to find anything on this.

This catsuit can be from DDX or DCL - both have different body slider files.

Or from Trapped in rubber but those not have body slides files because it's definitely not.

First you need figure out by using console and xedit what type of catsuit is.

Seems it's meshes it's so big for small breasts. You can try edit those meshes in outfit studio to lower the bump but it can't help completely. Also you need know what this catsuit is: DDX or DCL. Or you can try edit both.

 

[Laoise Sí]

3 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

This catsuit can be from DDX or DCL - both have different body slider files.

Looking in BodySlide, both DDX and DCL have this issue, and I don't use Trapped in Rubber. Never edited a mesh in outfit studio but I can take a look I guess. Thought I should at least ask in case it's something that should be fixed in the mod itself.