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I've seen all kinds op problems here  and even provided some advice for a few

LL has officially become a place to get therapy without paying

 

You can see lots of lonely people asking if they will ever get friends. Loneliness is the first epidemic

Even more sexually confused people who doesn't know if they are straight, gay, bisexual, trans-gender, asexual or perhaps some other classification there's not even a name for. The boundaries that once defined our world shatter and now literally everything is possible as some identities are just unique and so weird they cannot qualify as any of the previous concepts. Sexual confusion is the second epidemic

Associated with the two above or on it's own, you can find people feeling miserable thinking they are alone and nobody can relate to them, having biological deficit of happiness hormones or just feeling bad for different reasons. Depression as the third epidemic

 

But what brings me here is the fourth plague to which I personally haven't found an answer yet

I see a lot of people who got bullied and hates their bullies. Bullying is not my personal issue, but the consequence is the same, the fourth epidemic which is Hate.

 

I feel like I'm split in two, sometimes I feel this overwhelming love for humanity, nature and everything around me, I can feel my hope in the future blooming inside me. But sometimes I just look at what reality carries and I just want to brutally murder all those stupid fucks that make the horrors of the world possible, starting with stupidity.

Man, do I hate stupid people...

I'm not talking about mental deficiency, I'm talking about assholes

For example those people who think they are better than everyone else and take the time to shove it up you face, either by taking photos of what cool people they are or presuming of how "in" they are in terms of popular bullshit like twitter, instagram, eating sushi and all manners of zombiefying crap.

Being shallow as fuck somehow also makes them better than everyone else

The worst part is I actually envy them because they seem happy with all their material crap, their nonexistent state of awakening, their complacency, their overwhelming shallowness... They may be sheep but they damn sure look happy.

 

I don't know if it's hate, envy, rage or what but I feel these kind of people represent everything that's wrong with the world

 

There's also the other kind. The ones who think themselves intellectual and refuse to accept any other truth than their own. You don't agree? Then you are wrong. And furthermore they have the NEED to show you how wrong you are and how fucking right they are.

 

For example zealotry. Does not really matter if you are a religious nutjob or a total atheist, both NEED to tell you that their "god" is better than yours because it exists and yours dos not (yes atheists have a god too, which is the Great Void of Nothing as nothing else than the material exists)

You may believe god is a floating teacup in the realm of Equestria or you can worship you own damn pubic hair. Fine by me.

I DONT CARE.

YOU. Can believe WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT. JUST LEAVE. ME. DO THAT TOO

 

I will accept whatever truth makes sense to me, I will listen and maybe It will make sense too. But KEEP you damn "conversion" skills up your own ass. Civilized people TALK, share ideas and exchange them. Civilized people are not supposed to try to shove their truth up into your face.

 

More assholes inbound. The ones who lost all their humanity and can watch a video of someone being actually killed and FUCKING LAUGH at it (Did I mention it's an idiotic laughter?) What kind of world is this? What happened to common sense?

 

There's the Nexus people who can ban you at any second for the smallest shitty argument...

 

I could go on an on about assholes, the world is full of them

 

But my problem is hate.

I tend to hate them too much (The far away ones and the ones I encounter on personal life)

I know the advice is "let it go" "you only make stronger connections with the things you hate when you hate them" "Let them be" "Forgive"

But I HATE THEM!!!

 

It's easy to say those things, it's easy to know what to do.

The hard part is actually DOING IT

 

I'm not a hating person 24/7 I only say this about the moments I feel the hate in me.

Right now I'm feelin' it

But I need to let go of the hate, the rage, the envy. I don't want it it me but sometimes it just appears

 

So for this last plague, I still have no answer

How to get rid of those things?

Any of you guys hate as much as I do sometimes?

What do you do when that happens?

Anybody has any thoughts about this last plague and what to do with it?

 

PS: Sorry the long post... There's just a lot of it where it came from

 

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Why the hate against hate?

 

I don't buy this at all:

I know the advice is "let it go" "you only make stronger connections with the things you hate when you hate them" "Let them be" "Forgive"

If you're obsessing over it then yes, let it go. Just hating the shit though, there's no harm in that. It's not PC, but I hate being PC too.

 

Maybe not the answer you're looking for, but it's the one that works for me. It's no less natural an emotion than love.

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Good u could get it out of chest atleast ,hope it feels bit better now :D

Yeah it kinda does...

 

Why the hate against hate?

Well, it makes me do stupid things

If it wasn't for my hate I could be one of those people sending photos of exotic locations and bragging about how successful they are with their many many friends.

Only I chose to stray away from that group because I hated their elitist attitude and decided to go all "rebel me"

Not exactly a wise move if you seek to infiltrate the elites of society and actually have some power

You may walk alone, but in the end if you want to enter society, you need them

Not that I want to be like them, but I'd prefer my path a little easier than managing on my own.

 

Just an example of a poor choice based on emotion instead of rationality

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1. So for this last plague, I still have no answer

2. How to get rid of those things?

3. Any of you guys hate as much as I do sometimes?

4. What do you do when that happens?

5. Anybody has any thoughts about this last plague and what to do with it?

 

1. There is no answer :) best i can do is quote the old saying i heard somewhere "Good mental heath is a journey not a destination"

2. You can't - not particularly good advice but found combination of weed and alochol makes you forget about them for a while myself

3. Yes frequently and generally while i'm at work

4. On my good days i work out just how much i care about the given subject/issue and moderate my response with that in mind since often its actually not as important as they/you think at first

5. Find more effective outlet for yourself or a way of putting all those strong emotions to a constructive use since sadly even if you manage to totally "cure" yourself there will still be plenty of peeps out in the world that haven't

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i understand your feelings         their is a lot of assholls but if you think about it every one is an assholl for an other         we have all our own idees and way of thinking and we all think  we are better we are right (but we are not !) 

 

   humanity is full of dreams and shit and lazyness and often we see like the world is sick  that something is going wrong  (but not)  it is just a point of view of egoistic self with no conciderations of other existence (any other life)       the hate you feel  is normal you start to englobe and understand life  environmental world we live in  (the way that other will react)    humanity is evolving and the understanding grows              this hate feelings is from the hopeless side of "we can not do anything about it"    and their is nothing to do about it   just  to show them that their is an other way or let them be till they see it differently !!!    

 

for those who play with words and try to convince you of their shit  play with them  our way of speaking often is to enforce our point of view to show we are the best  use their own words    or tell them  "yes i am with you   and step away"

 

     i do not have all the answears (i wish i had) my way might be not the best but it is working most of the time     and you can not leave yourself to hate  or you will hate everything    try to understand or try to concentrate on something else to do better.

 

no no do not hate me as an other assholl !!!! :angel:

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What you are describing sounds like minor depression/anxiety disorder. It sounds as if you are feeling life is getting the better of you. You seem to be writing that the behaviour of others is upsetting you and you are unable to brush it off your shoulder like you used to be able to do.

 

Listen friend, I don't know your age, sex, nationality, culture, education level, employment, income etc... so it is difficult to really get an understanding of who you are and what type of support system you have around you. We all deal with emotions differently but I would not dismiss these feelings as nothing. Don't keep this to yourself.  I really would want you to speak to your family physician and/or reach out to your family if possible.

 

My suggestion would be to get outside more often. I know it sounds simplistic but follow me here;

 

Do more activities away from the computer. I suggest some sort of exercise within a group of people like, Tai Chi or yoga/palates and meditation or gym class, swimming. You need to allow your anxiety (that builds up during the course of the day) to be released in a positive way. Anxiety is an energy that will be released positively or negatively. Either way it will be released.

 

You sound a bit frustrated and that in turn creates anxiety. Just so you know, being excited about a birthday party creates anxiety too. But you body and brain does not know the difference between positive and negative anxiety; it is just perceived and experienced as anxiety and you body can only hold so much of it until it has to be released. In some people the anxiety is released in the form of physical violence and in others as in anger, sadness and frustration. But my point is if you don't have a positive way of releasing the energy it then will find a negative way of being released. Often this comes in the form of frustration. Frustration in the little things of life. These episodes are often difficult for people to understand why and what is happening. Without the expensive guidance of a mental health therapist people most often never figure out the cause and effect of their anxiety.

 

The real problem is what happens over time. What seems to be an insignificant problem today becomes a much more pronounced problem tomorrow. If you don't start to practice positive forms of relaxation then the anxiety starts to seep into other areas of your life like; your marriage, work, social groups (friends) and family. Exercise and meditation are two super effective ways of dealing with what you are describing. You can combine the two with a Tai Chi course. But Tai Chi and meditation is not for everyone.  The point here is to start having NEW  life experiences outside of your normal everyday support group (family and friends). Research from Europe is showing that the best form of therapy to deal with minor depression and anxiety is group exercise.

 

Lastly if you are lonely buy a dog and start walking it. People who care for pets are happier and live longer. But What I really would ask you to do is a 10 minute breathing exercise before you go to bed and when you wake up in the morning. Again I know this sounds simplistic but as we all know sometimes the simplest things produce the greatest effects. http://greatist.com/happiness/breathing-exercises-relax Choose one that you like and start doing it.

 

Also I would really start to look into the meaning of "MINDFULNESS". That itself is another topic but I believe it relates to you and your situation as you have described.

 

With that in mind I will leave you with two of my favourite quotes;

 

"The world is perfect. It's a mess. It has always been a mess. We are not going to change it. Our job is to straighten out our own lives." ~Joseph Campbell

 

"Nothing is to be clung to as I, me or mine. No attachments to fixed ideas of yourself and who you are." ~Buddha

 

Good luck elalquimista and keep in mind that there is no shame in what you are experiencing. There is strength in seeking help and early intervention provides the greatest returns. Remember; one grain of sand creates a dessert, a raindrop an ocean. Little things can have great unforeseen effects. A little help from a professional over a few months can change your life forever. :heart:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You are paying way too much attention to someone else. Who gives a dam about them. Unless they are an important person in your life. (accepted person) it don't matter what, who, or how happy they are. You aren't responsible for their happiness, sadness, Wealth, , success or anything. You are responsible for YOU. You determine those you communicate with, how much you interact and how much you allow them to effect you. You can only control yourself. Your anger, frustration and angst is because you are trying to influence, judge, moderate, motivate etc others.

 

When you are centered. Know who you are, what you want you can then figure out how to get it. All this other stuff is just static that is interfering with your path to this goal.

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Always remember there are worse things in life(i dunno yours i can't judge about that offcorse sickeness or other terible things happen to you) like children raped or use as slaves women threaten like there animals or keeping dumb by those assholes in muslim countrys.

 

People who have terible deseases or children who die young ext.

 

Rare animals that are at the brink of extiction like tiger or rhino im also very upset about that.

 

Im also almost every day disgust by those assholes who only think about themselfs care about nothing, only money and power.

 

People who destroying this world for money poluting this planet.

 

People who go to war or in there name of god kill others sure i hate those.

 

But i always put it out of my mind and relax and hate won't consume me.

 

Easy said offcorse not all are the same some can easly go on with there lifes others constantly struglle with unjustice.

 

Even tho i don't agree with all you said and how i still hope you can find some how some peace and happiness.

 

Im a Atheist(i keep always my opinion about this subject for myself because its most of time not posible discus this in a civalized way sadly) but i don't hate religion people as long they respect mine also.

 

I never respect EVER people who in name of there god kill others who keep women down because there religion say so.

 

Im not lecturing you what you should believe or think thats up to you but forums or other places on the internet people discuss and think about stuff as long its in civil and constructive way plus respect for others views and opinion but there are boundaries of corse you can not just accept everything that people want or believe and saying moderators should guard that most of the time.

 

On a side note care about the world is not bad always learn to take step back don't let it consume you.

 

Also only live for your self and don't give damn about others only worsen the situation on this planet it won't be solved in one day but if we just try alittle EMPATHIE also for others and care it will slowly improve how we live on this planet other wise where defenetly doomed.

 

 

LOVE&PEACE to ALL.

 

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ritualclarity, on 21 May 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:

You are paying way too much attention to someone else. Who gives a dam about them. Unless they are an important person in your life. (accepted person) it don't matter what, who, or how happy they are. You aren't responsible for their happiness, sadness, Wealth, , success or anything. You are responsible for YOU. You determine those you communicate with, how much you interact and how much you allow them to effect you. You can only control yourself. Your anger, frustration and angst is because you are trying to influence, judge, moderate, motivate etc others.

 

When you are centered. Know who you are, what you want you can then figure out how to get it. All this other stuff is just static that is interfering with your path to this goal.

 

i do not believe that   we are a all      a person can be insignificant  the cas of 99%   but is significantly playing in your brain and changing your sight        you are responsable of their happyness  as they interact with your stats   (if you smile people will look at you and smile a good feeling seems propagating)   you communicate with everyone with or without knowing (body language attitudes)  you can controle situations feelings and if your knowlege is strong people around you at some point.

 

when you are centered you are being just selfish   you get what you want but at what price  and all what you learn is just your envy that grows up          your path need to compose with every living around you their happyness will bring you upper and closer to your goal  and you will learn match more about yourself

 

sorry if i point you out      as i am not at all thinking that this is a way  for me this is the cruel money way.

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What you are describing sounds like minor depression/anxiety disorder. It sounds as if you are feeling life is getting the better of you. You seem to be writing that the behaviour of others is upsetting you and you are unable to brush it off your shoulder like you used to be able to do.

 

Listen friend, I don't know your age, sex, nationality, culture, education level, employment, income etc... so it is difficult to really get an understanding of who you are and what type of support system you have around you. We all deal with emotions differently but I would not dismiss these feelings as nothing. Don't keep this to yourself.  I really would want you to speak to your family physician and/or reach out to your family if possible.

 

My suggestion would be to get outside more often. I know it sounds simplistic but follow me here;

 

Do more activities away from the computer. I suggest some sort of exercise within a group of people like, Tai Chi or yoga/palates and meditation or gym class, swimming. You need to allow your anxiety (that builds up during the course of the day) to be released in a positive way. Anxiety is an energy that will be released positively or negatively. Either way it will be released.

 

You sound a bit frustrated and that in turn creates anxiety. Just so you know, being excited about a birthday party creates anxiety too. But you body and brain does not know the difference between positive and negative anxiety; it is just perceived and experienced as anxiety and you body can only hold so much of it until it has to be released. In some people the anxiety is released in the form of physical violence and in others as in anger, sadness and frustration. But my point is if you don't have a positive way of releasing the energy it then will find a negative way of being released. Often this comes in the form of frustration. Frustration in the little things of life. These episodes are often difficult for people to understand why and what is happening. Without the expensive guidance of a mental health therapist people most often never figure out the cause and effect of their anxiety.

 

The real problem is what happens over time. What seems to be an insignificant problem today becomes a much more pronounced problem tomorrow. If you don't start to practice positive forms of relaxation then the anxiety starts to seep into other areas of your life like; your marriage, work, social groups (friends) and family. Exercise and meditation are two super effective ways of dealing with what you are describing. You can combine the two with a Tai Chi course. But Tai Chi and meditation is not for everyone.  The point here is to start having NEW  life experiences outside of your normal everyday support group (family and friends). Research from Europe is showing that the best form of therapy to deal with minor depression and anxiety is group exercise.

 

Lastly if you are lonely buy a dog and start walking it. People who care for pets are happier and live longer. But What I really would ask you to do is a 10 minute breathing exercise before you go to bed and when you wake up in the morning. Again I know this sounds simplistic but as we all know sometimes the simplest things produce the greatest effects. http://greatist.com/happiness/breathing-exercises-relax Choose one that you like and start doing it.

 

Also I would really start to look into the meaning of "MINDFULNESS". That itself is another topic but I believe it relates to you and your situation as you have described.

 

With that in mind I will leave you with two of my favourite quotes;

 

"The world is perfect. It's a mess. It has always been a mess. We are not going to change it. Our job is to straighten out our own lives." ~Joseph Campbell

 

"Nothing is to be clung to as I, me or mine. No attachments to fixed ideas of yourself and who you are." ~Buddha

 

Good luck elalquimista and keep in mind that there is no shame in what you are experiencing. There is strength in seeking help and early intervention provides the greatest returns. Remember; one grain of sand creates a dessert, a raindrop an ocean. Little things can have great unforeseen effects. A little help from a professional over a few months can change your life forever. :heart:

 

 

 

Way ahead of you

A little about me: 

 

 

First, consider me a "young" person, like recently out of college education having a professional title

But I'm also a very old soul concerned with philosophical questions, the study of humanity and spirituality as well as history. That places me outside my "ideal" social environment being young people concerned with material stuff on the beginning of the next stage of life which is marriage

In my profession I have studied the effects of exercise, endorphin and various psychological disorders. I'm not a psychologist, buy my profession requires understanding of the patient's mind. I've also some insight on alternative medicines, and ancestral oriental knowledge. That involves exactly the practice of Tai-Chi too... but that's a long way currently in development.

I have a very very good relationship with my family and I almost share everything with them

I have been recognized by my peers as brilliant in what I do, I'm creative and original but sometimes too much out of the box. It gets good results in work, BUT this rebelliousness against standards has cost me a lot.

 

Regarding friends, I have had friends, but as I'm too much of a freak, I have trouble keeping contact and maintaining them. I thought I had Asperger, I don't, I'm too emotional for that. I remember all my friends with love (even those), but I'm pretty sure they forgot about me as soon as I stopped writing. I move on, find new friends, but right now things are different. I don't feel lonely, as my family is a very nice group of people and I know I can make friends, but sadly I'm not very good at keeping them.

 

I analyze people and dissect them like little animals to understand them, I see the world as a magical place, I see connections between events, behaviors. I see people and I get them, but even when I have been on the inside, I've always looked at them as an outsider.

Despite the fact I DO actually care for them.

 

So my current personal issue is not exactly hate, but a certain rage born out of frustration... as everyone has their lives figured out by now and despite all my passionate analysis and insights, I can understand how to be human, but I have trouble being one.

 

 

 

The rage about personal and non related issues can be even natural but I don't want it. Once I stop caring everything will get simpler

It's the Rule #1 of being an Alpha: DO NOT CARE (except when common sense demands you to care)

I do not care for a lot of things like a good nice Alpha, but some others I do care when I shouldn't

When I start caring for things I shouldn't, I get angry, when instead It shouldn't matter and I should be happy.

 

And about Mindfulness, I hadn't heard the name before but where I come from It's referred as a state of full AWAKENING, when your conscience is exactly in the present moment and you realize you are alive and you exist right here right now among other things... yes I have had a few of those. Willingly even.

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Always remember there are worse things in life(i dunno yours i can't judge about that offcorse sickeness or other terible things happen to you) like children raped or use as slaves women threaten like there animals or keeping dumb by those assholes in muslim countrys.

 

People who have terible deseases or children who die young ext.

 

Rare animals that are at the brink of extiction like tiger or rhino im also very upset about that.

 

Im also almost every day disgust by those assholes who only think about themselfs care about nothing, only money and power.

 

People who destroying this world for money poluting this planet.

 

People who go to war or in there name of god kill others sure i hate those.

 

But i always put it out of my mind and relax and hate won't consume me.

 

Easy said offcorse not all are the same some can easly go on with there lifes others constantly struglle with unjustice.

 

Even tho i don't agree with all you said and how i still hope you can find some how some peace and happiness.

 

Im a Atheist(i keep always my opinion about this subject for myself because its most of time not posible discus this in a civalized way sadly) but i don't hate religion people as long they respect mine also.

 

I never respect EVER people who in name of there god kill others who keep women down because there religion say so.

 

Im not lecturing you what you should believe or think thats up to you but forums or other places on the internet people discuss and think about stuff as long its in civil and constructive way plus respect for others views and opinion but there are boundaries of corse you can not just accept everything that people want or believe and saying moderators should guard that most of the time.

 

On a side note care about the world is not bad always learn to take step back don't let it consume you.

 

Also only live for your self and don't give damn about others only worsen the situation on this planet it won't be solved in one day but if we just try alittle EMPATHIE also for others and care it will slowly improve how we live on this planet other wise where defenetly doomed.

 

 

LOVE&PEACE to ALL.

 

 

 

The problem is I'm pissed off by my personal issues AND by those you mention

If it were up to me, all those people who cause harm and injustice like rape, animal extinctions, slavery, planet destruction etc... They would be given a one way ticket out of the planet into the empty cold space.

 

I know not caring is the way to be happy, but how to do it? 

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ritualclarity, on 21 May 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:

You are paying way too much attention to someone else. Who gives a dam about them. Unless they are an important person in your life. (accepted person) it don't matter what, who, or how happy they are. You aren't responsible for their happiness, sadness, Wealth, , success or anything. You are responsible for YOU. You determine those you communicate with, how much you interact and how much you allow them to effect you. You can only control yourself. Your anger, frustration and angst is because you are trying to influence, judge, moderate, motivate etc others.

 

When you are centered. Know who you are, what you want you can then figure out how to get it. All this other stuff is just static that is interfering with your path to this goal.

 

i do not believe that   we are a all      a person can be insignificant  the cas of 99%   but is significantly playing in your brain and changing your sight        you are responsable of their happyness  as they interact with your stats   (if you smile people will look at you and smile a good feeling seems propagating)   you communicate with everyone with or without knowing (body language attitudes)  you can controle situations feelings and if your knowlege is strong people around you at some point.

 

when you are centered you are being just selfish   you get what you want but at what price  and all what you learn is just your envy that grows up          your path need to compose with every living around you their happyness will bring you upper and closer to your goal  and you will learn match more about yourself

 

sorry if i point you out      as i am not at all thinking that this is a way  for me this is the cruel money way.

 

You missed my point as many others have missed the basic concept. This is the reason Psychologist make some much money in Western Cultures... :(

 

 

 

 

Always remember there are worse things in life(i dunno yours i can't judge about that offcorse sickeness or other terible things happen to you) like children raped or use as slaves women threaten like there animals or keeping dumb by those assholes in muslim countrys.

 

People who have terible deseases or children who die young ext.

 

Rare animals that are at the brink of extiction like tiger or rhino im also very upset about that.

 

Im also almost every day disgust by those assholes who only think about themselfs care about nothing, only money and power.

 

People who destroying this world for money poluting this planet.

 

People who go to war or in there name of god kill others sure i hate those.

 

But i always put it out of my mind and relax and hate won't consume me.

 

Easy said offcorse not all are the same some can easly go on with there lifes others constantly struglle with unjustice.

 

Even tho i don't agree with all you said and how i still hope you can find some how some peace and happiness.

 

Im a Atheist(i keep always my opinion about this subject for myself because its most of time not posible discus this in a civalized way sadly) but i don't hate religion people as long they respect mine also.

 

I never respect EVER people who in name of there god kill others who keep women down because there religion say so.

 

Im not lecturing you what you should believe or think thats up to you but forums or other places on the internet people discuss and think about stuff as long its in civil and constructive way plus respect for others views and opinion but there are boundaries of corse you can not just accept everything that people want or believe and saying moderators should guard that most of the time.

 

On a side note care about the world is not bad always learn to take step back don't let it consume you.

 

Also only live for your self and don't give damn about others only worsen the situation on this planet it won't be solved in one day but if we just try alittle EMPATHIE also for others and care it will slowly improve how we live on this planet other wise where defenetly doomed.

 

 

LOVE&PEACE to ALL.

 

 

 

The problem is I'm pissed off by my personal issues AND by those you mention

If it were up to me, all those people who cause harm and injustice like rape, animal extinctions, slavery, planet destruction etc... They would be given a one way ticket out of the planet into the empty cold space.

 

I know not caring is the way to be happy, but how to do it? 

 

The answer isn't "not caring' the answer is realizing the limits you have on these events.

 

When you understand your skills and desires and able to "eliminate static" (that is the meaningless info that is irrelevant to the solution) you will be able to see paths that you can take to help. They may be small  but they can help change the world. When you are centered you can be focused. It isn't only a money concept it is a concept that anybody can use to obtain their goals. With this focus and the new found energy (not waiting it on things that can't be done but instead of focusing on actual paths to a solution or aid) you can achieve more than you could ever do before.

 

The key is to stop complaining, wishing, or dreaming and actually thinking of solutions and paths that are health proper and helpful to the cause you desire. It is OK to be upset and have sensitivity and concern. For every problem you come across in achieving those goals you set forth. (petitions, changes in law etc) focus on three solutions to those problems. Surround yourself in others like minded which also exhibit the same positive energy for solving what ever problem you have.

 

There are many organizations that are working to help those causes. Choose 1, 2. 3 and work with them. Create your own. Anything so long as it is positive and constructive towards those issues you are concerned. Sad Children are being exploited. You can volunteer with runaway groups and big brothers which can make a big change in their life. helping energize you with more "positive" energy and feelings to help offset the others.

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Don't worry I hate every single person on earth, including myself.

Or maybe hate it to strong word, let say that I see selfish dick/pussies everywhere.

 

And I'm not to far from truth, essentially every being is all about selfpreservation so everyone are ass holes - difference is only that some are bigger assholes than others. There may be some pure selfless  souls  out there but they are freaks of nature :P

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I usually go by a general rule; I could never outright hate someone, if I did that person would be dead already.  Instead I'm tolerant of people and having a surprisingly large amount of patience helps as well.  I've known plenty of folks that strut around like their farts don't stink and 99.9% of the time they end up finding out they have no more worth than that of a dead dog.  I admire people who are humble, know just how small they are and how incredibly rare and short life can be.

 

Those that believe they are expendable are fools.

Those that believe in destiny are weak.

 

It's not that we think we are inadequate.  Instead we are more powerful than we know.

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I was bullied in high school for being *GASP AND SHOCK* quiet and liking to read books. I still take anti depressants 13 years later. I can't looking people in the eye due to a defensive mechanism form those days and I would still love to murder each and every one of them, hopefully in front of their families and children. Given the chance I would buuuuuut it's so hard to get away with crimes these days I just don't. Also I am super lazy haha!

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It's all good and dandy to have strong opinions about the people on this planet, but sometimes you should also realize that you are not unique. There are thousands thinking like you out there, you are not alone against the world and the world is certainly not against you. Fact is your opinions are just fairy dust, unproductive products of your mind, but it's as addictive as drugs can get. Taking a break once in a while and cultivating your own garden instead of spying on the neighbor's could help you take care and focus of and on your own shortcomings instead of carrying on hating every single plant everywhere.

It's not a crime to hate, hell we were made for this, biologically speaking, but at the end of the day we're just people, just humans. Even the ones you consider as sheeps or whatever are just like you, thinking animals crawling everywhere like they own the place and keeping on hating them is just a waste of your time.

My advice since you may seem to ask for one : thrive to BE unique while KNOWING you are not.

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Well, besides my regular interests, I consider myself a spiritual person, not religious, spiritual.

In the path of evolution it is said one must let go of emotions that pull you down

So you see I'm not a "hating person" most of the times I can feel the luv

But I worry about solutions and I was pretty sure I was not the only one who hates sometimes

I know there are people who have it a lot worse, like those who were bullied and permanently damaged

I may have known a few patients with that too and I wanted to help, but how can I help them deal with their hate if I cannot properly deal with my own?

I agree, "hate" is a strong word. In me it's "anger" and "frustration" but I'm sure in others it's "hate"

 

I have every reason to want to find a cure

 

If it were up to me one would live in a mountain, surrounded by nature and living in peace. But one lives a different life and one needs to deal with society's crap

 

I made some poor choices in the past, and "hate" lead me to them

I still recognize traces of it when I think back and I think it's a rock that's still getting in the way some times

 

PS: Somehow taking this crap out makes one feel better, I can feel it diminishing as I read and write...

Thank you all

But I'm still searching for a cure that prevents screwing it up when the moment of truth comes

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I recognize myself quite alot in what you have described. I use the term hate as well, but the correct term for me are Misanthropist. With a dose of Asociality.

We humans just walk around with our pathetic life's, and worries about mundane things when there is so much worse and fucked up things to actually worry about.

I really try hard not to be hateful, but it's just impossible. I guess it depends on how much you care about you surroundings and how much you can filter out.

People call me pessimist, but I always counter it with "no, I am realist"

 

I have tried as long as I can remember to find a way to change my way of thinking. So far I haven't been successful. It's kinda hard to change this behavior and as soon as you step outside, you are constantly reminded of the stupidity of other people. I am by no means better than anyone else. No one is better me, I am no better than you.

 

When I were younger, I used to walk out to the forest, and just soak up as much as possible. I could spend hours walking and clear my head. I wish I could do it today, but since I have this anti-social behavior, I find it extremely hard. And it does not help when your friends, think and feel exactly like you. You are constantly feeding each other with pessimistic thoughts. Another "therapy" that worked okay for me, (when I played in various bands) was to write down what I felt. And then we used that in our songs.

It was great when ppl come up to me and said "hey man, I recognize myself in the lyrics" and in a way that eased some. I know I'm not unique in my way of thinking, but having some sort of conformation of how you felt helped and in weird way connected to other people. 

 

People not in the circle looked at us, like we were some kind of freaks, for playing extreme metal and we looked back thinking "what bunch of fucking idiots, I hope they die" 

 

I think the most important thing is to simply change your habits. Don't do stuff that makes you feel hatred, even tho that is hard as fuck to do.

But sometimes even the tiniest of things can have a major impact on your life. Start do more stuff that makes you feel less hateful, and increase the atctivites as much as possible.

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Archery. Archery is my "zen time". The world melts away when I am at full draw and it's just me, the bow, the arrow and the tiny dot I am trying to hit from a ridiculously long distance away.

 

I also let my rage fly when it builds up, in a non-lethal way that doesn't hurt other people anyway (these days :lol:). It's not good to hold it in. Let it rip, brother. Just explode if you need to. Going hiking, biking, camping, hunting and fishing also keep me from feeling like a big ball of rage.

 

I'm not a youngster, though. So I've had time to sort these sorts of things out. I am at a stage in life that I couldn't possibly care less what dimwits do or think. It doesn't stop me from acknowledging they're dimwits, though.

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Honestly, i can't bring myself to hate another person. I've spent too much time in the wild to be accustomed to such a thing. Out there if something gives you crap you shoot it in the face or just walk away. I've spent far to little time with humans to care much for what they think or say, most of what other people consider important seems like pointless crap to me. I do love poking fun at Nexus, mostly out of sheer boredom than any actual hate. The way I've always looked at it is if i can't eat it or fuck it then there's not point in bothering with it. I wish i could say to just ignore what annoys you but nothing is ever that simple. It took me years to adjust to the fact i can't hit people in the face with rocks every-time i disagree with them no matter how quickly it fixes the problems. In the end it's going to be a long process of small victories. The best you can do is just focus on spending time with the people you like doing the things that make you happy and except the excess bullshit that comes along with it as fair payment for the things that make life worth tolerating. All things must exist in balance and for all the good in life it must follow an equal share of suffering.

Corespore the cave man pimp ! NOW YOU SHUT UP OR ROCK TO THA FACE !

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:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

After all which has been said, I think there's no cure for hate

Shifting your perspective of a situation may help

 

The stronger the hate, the more difficult it gets. Probably there's no easy path for people with chronic hatred like bullied or abused people

It's not simple. Like "accept and love yourself" or "work in focusing on the happy side of things" "exercise" "take sun light" "be direct" or "change your scenario"

As those answers might seem simple, I've seen and experienced their effects in the treatment of other soul ailments and they do work. But for this one there is no easy magical answer

 

As it's obvious focusing on something else might help it is but a distraction, not a solution

Perhaps the answer could be made of combinations between shifting how you see things, accepting what you cannot change and growing some tolerance to it...in time

In the worst cases, channeling it towards something constructive...

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So materialistic and shallow persons are to be envied? Just a littlle story about that: Years ago we over here in Germany had quite a public uproar because a guy named Magnus Gäfgen murdered the son of a rich banker family from Frankfurt. That's why the case made it in the prime time broadcasts (which is cynical enough - an average Joes kid would certainly not have made it to the front pages).

 

Why did Gäfgen do that? No, not for sexual reasons,  but to extort money from the parents. Didn't work out, so he killed the boy. He tried to rise from his own poor working family to the self-acclaimed "elite" in his law study classes at university. Many of those came from wealthy backgrounds, and of course soon he found himself going on expensive vacations, get some gold digging bimbo at his side to show around and pretended he was "one of them", drove her around in an expensive car, bought only the finest of clothes and so forth. He used his heritage for that (if memory serves me correctly it was a small fortune he inherited from a deceased uncle or other relative). Then came the day the money was gone and he comitted the murder.

 

The remarkable and truly shocking element of this story is not the murder itself - things like that  happen everyday around the globe - unfortunately. It is the following fact:

Gäfgens lawyer was interviewed in a documentary about that case and said that NO ONE of his posh "elite" friends were able to even remotely describe his personality! His horror about that was almost palpable, and I was terrified as well. Not one of the people Gäfgen had been together with for months on his vacations or parties, not even his birdie, could describe his personality. What the heck did these people talk about all day long? Now just think about how many of these narcissistic psychopaths like Gäfgen are members of the financial and political elite, who do not run out of money and snap but get to act out their narcissistic impulses all their lives. And no one even recognizes it. There seems to be absolutely no social control, no feedback among those that can buy their way out of responsibility for themselves and others.

 

The lawyer asked Gäfgen why he didn't rob a bank or somethng like that but instead murdered a kid. He replied that he could never threaten someone with a gun (!). Now that's insane. And says something about his ethical compass.

 

I cannot envy that. I look down upon that with utter contempt. And yes, with hate. But that doesn't make me feel bad. I embrace my emotions as they occur. I know my friends. That's something some people cannot say for themselves.

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So materialistic and shallow persons are to be envied? Just a littlle story about that: Years ago we over here in Germany had quite a public uproar because a guy named Magnus Gäfgen murdered the son of a rich banker family from Frankfurt. That's why the case made it in the prime time broadcasts (which is cynical enough - an average Joes kid would certainly not have made it to the front pages).

 

Why did Gäfgen do that? No, not for sexual reasons,  but to extort money from the parents. Didn't work out, so he killed the boy. He tried to rise from his own poor working family to the self-acclaimed "elite" in his law study classes at university. Many of those came from wealthy backgrounds, and of course soon he found himself going on expensive vacations, get some gold digging bimbo at his side to show around and pretended he was "one of them", drove her around in an expensive car, bought only the finest of clothes and so forth. He used his heritage for that (if memory serves me correctly it was a small fortune he inherited from a deceased uncle or other relative). Then came the day the money was gone and he comitted the murder.

 

The remarkable and truly shocking element of this story is not the murder itself - things like that  happen everyday around the globe - unfortunately. It is the following fact:

Gäfgens lawyer was interviewed in a documentary about that case and said that NO ONE of his posh "elite" friends were able to even remotely describe his personality! His horror about that was almost palpable, and I was terrified as well. Not one of the people Gäfgen had been together with for months on his vacations or parties, not even his birdie, could describe his personality. What the heck did these people talk about all day long? Now just think about how many of these narcissistic psychopaths like Gäfgen are members of the financial and political elite, who do not run out of money and snap but get to act out their narcissistic impulses all their lives. And no one even recognizes it. There seems to be absolutely no social control, no feedback among those that can buy their way out of responsibility for themselves and others.

 

The lawyer asked Gäfgen why he didn't rob a bank or somethng like that but instead murdered a kid. He replied that he could never threaten someone with a gun (!). Now that's insane. And says something about his ethical compass.

 

I cannot envy that. I look down upon that with utter contempt. And yes, with hate. But that doesn't make me feel bad. I embrace my emotions as they occur. I know my friends. That's something some people cannot say for themselves.

 

That is a bit upsetting since you would expect them to know atleast a little bit about him but by the same token where any of his friends bothered by not being able to remember his personality? Or were they so self absorbed that they didn't actually notice/care?

 

I will admit i do sometimes envy those who are capable of "not thinking" since a lot of their actions aren't down to malice or a desire to do something wrong they literally just did not think about what they were doing so their is no guilt or remorse to deal with

 

As they say in warhammer 40k "Blessed is the mind to small for doubt"

 

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