nutluck Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 ... snip ... Anyways just brain storming since I know you are thinking on making changes to this Fox. Hey thanks for that. Really, I'm not going to do anything special besides change a little dialogue here and there and fix some bugs. It's not going to be anything to write home about. Just putting the Mod into as stable a place as I can. And all the bugs are Minor, or minor "look and Feel" stuff - not even bugs at all! Honestly, I wouldn't let waiting on this delay your game. You are bound to be hugely disappointed. Thanks! Well I was mostly kidding, I am also waiting on the new Defeat to get a couple of bugs worked out too.
FoxFingers Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 I've been using the mod and quite enjoy it and was wondering if the use of Follower Commentary Overhaul is a good complimentary mod to this one or not. It would seem that as it is without FCO followers like Lydia have plenty of delightful things to say as it is. What might I expect when running the two together? Would FCO fill in blanks missed by this mod and such or I'm just looking at having interference or overlap here? This is just me personally... I don't care for how FCO handles the Female Even Toned voice specifically for Lydia. That's why I gave her my own Follower Commentary. That's purely my personal taste. My understanding is it works fine with Amorous Adventures, though. And it covers all the Voice Types.
Gameplayer Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I noticed the voice edits you made for Lydia and I really appreciate it, she just seems more interesting and more believable as a lover and companion with the changes. Since I only seem to travel with Lydia, I've been considering removing FCO. I only installed it just last night and I'm aware of how to uninstall it. I guess I was kinda wondering if I'd be missing out on some interesting dialogue via FCO. I'll probably just pull that one out.
Swissenergy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I noticed the voice edits you made for Lydia and I really appreciate it, she just seems more interesting and more believable as a lover and companion with the changes. Since I only seem to travel with Lydia, I've been considering removing FCO. I only installed it just last night and I'm aware of how to uninstall it. I guess I was kinda wondering if I'd be missing out on some interesting dialogue via FCO. I'll probably just pull that one out. If you're going to have Lydia as your main follower then you really don't need FCO. The dialogue Fox gave Lydia is very good and there really isn't many other lines from FCO that would add to her character. However, if you change followers frequently, like I do, then I would recommend keeping FCO since some voice types get some lines that do add a little bit of immersion to your game. Example: FemaleYoungerEager voice type will often times call out to you about "taking all the good stuff" while you're looting in a dungeon. Most of the other lines for the voices are simply based on location, sometimes they'll surprise you and say something you didn't expect but not always. Again, the dialogue Fox gave Lydia is much better than what FCO added so if you only use her as a follower then I'd recommend removing FCO. If you use other followers too, then I'd say it's probably worth keeping.
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 FCO just adds random dialogue is the thing, it adds a lot of dialogue on every voice type that can be companions but it gives Khajor for example every comment by that voice actor spoken by Khajiit and he'll spout them constantly. It'll feel like it changes their personalities, Jordis becomes a ditzy airhead because many of the YoungEager voicetype is, Lydia becomes a feminist because Alahm is and complains about the stench in your home (with Amorous she complains about the stench in dungeons which is appropriate), and so on. There's not a single location specific comment or character specific comment unlocked it's just all of the comments dumped on all of the followers and said at a MCM determined interval with no relation to what the character is doing.
FoxFingers Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah, someday I would like to go back and do the Follower commentary for Jordis and Aela. Lydia's follower commentary is very specific to who she is for people who specifically view Lydia as a sweetie who loves her Thane. It's micro targeted. FCO is macro targeted at all voice types. AA's Lydia dialogue is for people who Role Play being in love with their housecarl and want the feedback that she loves them back. Like me. Yeah, I'd do her. And no, it's not weird, go fuck yourself.
Gameplayer Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 FCO just adds random dialogue is the thing, it adds a lot of dialogue on every voice type that can be companions but it gives Khajor for example every comment by that voice actor spoken by Khajiit and he'll spout them constantly. It'll feel like it changes their personalities, Jordis becomes a ditzy airhead because many of the YoungEager voicetype is, Lydia becomes a feminist because Alahm is and complains about the stench in your home (with Amorous she complains about the stench in dungeons which is appropriate), and so on. There's not a single location specific comment or character specific comment unlocked it's just all of the comments dumped on all of the followers and said at a MCM determined interval with no relation to what the character is doing. What? Lydia no don't be femi Nazi... Hmm, I don't know why I have just always run with Lydia every character and the few that I did try running with I just ended up putting a gag in their mouth cause the dialogue just got annoying. But with AA its like Lydia doesn't get that annoying complaining thing going. I do wish when I want her to carry some stuff she'd say something else...Anything that wasn't bitchy would be great.
FoxFingers Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 I do wish when I want her to carry some stuff she'd say something else...Anything that wasn't bitchy would be great. I have that on my list of fixes for the next update. So, she should say different things (and maybe still that occasionally) when you ask her to trade. To be honest, since I use Amazing Follower Tweaks with quick backpack access turned on, I have not heard that line in ... forever.
Gameplayer Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I do wish when I want her to carry some stuff she'd say something else...Anything that wasn't bitchy would be great. I have that on my list of fixes for the next update. So, she should say different things (and maybe still that occasionally) when you ask her to trade. To be honest, since I use Amazing Follower Tweaks with quick backpack access turned on, I have not heard that line in ... forever. Haha I use that too! But when I want her to change out the outfit I still hear that line ><
RDKateran Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I don't know which mod of mine caused it, but my Lydia has used the "carry your burdens" line in a normal tone, rather than her sarcastic/suffering tone (though she still uses that on occasion). That's been going on long before I got AA.
Swissenergy Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I don't know which mod of mine caused it, but my Lydia has used the "carry your burdens" line in a normal tone, rather than her sarcastic/suffering tone (though she still uses that on occasion). That's been going on long before I got AA. Normal tone? I've never heard her say that line any differently before. I do know that there were additional trade dialogue options added for several housecarls(including Lydia) with I think the Hearthfire DLC, I may be mistaken on that though. For me, she now says 1 of 3 lines when asked to trade: 1. "I am sworn to carry your burdens" 2. "I am at your command" 3. "How can I serve you, my Thane?" Those are the only 3 lines she says when asked to trade, and I've never heard the "carry your burdens" line sound any different than her usual condescending/reluctant tone.
Jassaun Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 SexLab Amorous Adventures has got to be one of Skyrim's best mods ever. Thank you for your hard work and genius. I play with Lydia as my main follower and I like her commentary as the sweetie you made her to be. I look forward to any additional quests that may be in the works.
shinji72 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And episode 11 is out. Between the #Modgate and RL it took me a little longer than usual... But now we are back on track...
aba42 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 All quests have been completed, except I just started the Serana Quests. And, for the first time, i've encountered a problem. SPOILER ALERT: The first time Serana has sex, absolutely NO clothes are removed. I have not had this problem with any other quest, just Serana. We're in Dawnguard (as I refused the bite) and she's come to visit. The initial conversations are over, and it's the "Here we are again" dialog. I have not changed the load order of any MOD's, and Amorous Adventures is still last in my load order. Help, please! Thanks in advance.
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed.
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Hey FoxFingers, any chance in this maintance update you can make it so that if we have ZAZ installed instead with his kissing animation those scenes will use that animation instead of the Leito one? No offense to Leito's animation, but the new ZAZ kissing animation is awesome.
eragon11111 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Hey FoxFingers, any chance in this maintance update you can make it so that if we have ZAZ installed instead with his kissing animation those scenes will use that animation instead of the Leito one? No offense to Leito's animation, but the new ZAZ kissing animation is awesome. Please don't depend on zaz, those animations gave me strange CTDs and a full heap of logs
swmas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed. There are like 2 or 3 which one should be enabled?
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Hey FoxFingers, any chance in this maintance update you can make it so that if we have ZAZ installed instead with his kissing animation those scenes will use that animation instead of the Leito one? No offense to Leito's animation, but the new ZAZ kissing animation is awesome. Please don't depend on zaz, those animations gave me strange CTDs and a full heap of logs You can make mutually exclusive dependancies so a mod can use assets from something like ZAZ if it is installed without it necessarily becoming a master. After all NSAP is not a master now. And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed. There are like 2 or 3 which one should be enabled? I'm reasonably certain there's just one kiss animation, look for Leito's animations and for the kiss.
swmas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I'm reasonably certain there's just one kiss animation, look for Leito's animations and for the kiss. I will, thanks!
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Every time you get to sernading Lisette and the DB fails completely, what's in my head is basically the Thu'um version of this instead that he's going to give her. Eh, then again that would probably have killed Lisette and would have been audible in Windhelm.
aba42 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed. Appreciate the sarcasm...not. I'm telling you, the first encounter that I have with Serana, she says "I don't know what this is going to do for you...", then I and she proceed into a sex act....AS IF we both had clothes off. Just like every other encounter I've had with the other characters upon completion of their quests. I know I have NOT completed Serana's quest. The first "encounter" when we got to the boat, she said she wasn't going to follow through. Then we go to the castle. I refuse the bite. I recruit two people for Dawnguard. She shows up at Dawnguard, the two of us are just then heading off to the College to seek the location of the Moth Priest. I turn to her, and say something like: "Well, here we are...again." She apologizes for her attitude at the boat dock. We have a short dialog. Then she says "I don't know what this is going to do for you..." We then proceed into one of the many scripted sex scenes. There is not a simple kiss (except as foreplay). It's the complete sex act (one of many, as I've restarted that scene several times trying for different results) and, although the sex scene changes, both characters retain their clothes. There is not a "simple kiss" scene. That WOULD make sense, but I'm not getting that result. Any other help you can offer will be greatly appreciated! Thanks! And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed. P.S. Of COURSE I read the download page, I have NSAP installed, and it's installed in the correct order. I've had both mods installed (with current versions) for a long time.
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Well it's supposed to be a kiss, and it's not sacasm it's annoynace because this comes up every couple of weeks with the exact same thing of people thinking the clothed sex is an error when it's supposed to be a kiss. Obviously you haven't enabled Leito's kiss. Although I was of the impression that if the kiss wasn't enabled another clothing-appropriate loving scene would play by now. Unless that is you've already had a scene where she just kissed you? In that case it's a bug alright, if not it's the kiss you're supposed to see.
aba42 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 And it keeps coming up again and again... That first encounter with Serana is a kiss, not a sex scene, please read the download page and make sure you have Leito's kiss animation from NSAP installed. P.P.S. I have another follower with me at the moment, with whom I've completed her quest. So, I had sex with her, both before and after my encounter with Serana. I had absolutely NO problem. I and she strip prior to the act. But, when Serana says "I don't know what this is going to do for you...but, you deserve at least this much" (or very close to that), there's a complete sex act (not a kiss) and it's fully clothed, but only fully clothed with Serana. IF it were just a kiss, since it's our first encounter, that would make perfect logical sense, as reluctant as she is. So the "act" surprised me too...
Sacremas Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah, something is wrong with your animation registry. Try going into NSAP, unchecking Leito's kiss animation, go into Sexlab Framework and register animations, then recheck the kiss animation and rerun the register animations, then head to the animation tab and see if the kiss is on the list of animations. After that it should work.
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