arnulfpeter Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, first i want to say that this is an amazing mod. Its just what was really missing so far. Awesome! I have a problem with the quest "a widow too soon". I have stopped the ritual of potema and i go hand the quest in to falk. Then i go to elisif who gives me the quest to bring the horn to the shrine. Now, erikur does not stop me or when i talk to him there is no new dialogue. Nevertheless, i went on the shirne put the horn down but there was no ghost. in the following i can become thane but there is no quest "a widow too soon" for me and no seduction of elisif. ;-( So i think the problem might be the early step in which erikur does not stop me. Do you guys have any ideas? I do not want to miss out on all the amorous solitude quests.
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, first i want to say that this is an amazing mod. Its just what was really missing so far. Awesome! I have a problem with the quest "a widow too soon". I have stopped the ritual of potema and i go hand the quest in to falk. Then i go to elisif who gives me the quest to bring the horn to the shrine. Now, erikur does not stop me or when i talk to him there is no new dialogue. Nevertheless, i went on the shirne put the horn down but there was no ghost. in the following i can become thane but there is no quest "a widow too soon" for me and no seduction of elisif. ;-( So i think the problem might be the early step in which erikur does not stop me. Do you guys have any ideas? I do not want to miss out on all the amorous solitude quests. Ensure Amorous Adventures is at the bottom (like, the very bottom) of your Load Order. Ensure the quest is running. Is it in your journal? You can try talking to Elisif. You should have a dialogue option like "The Jarl of Solitude is surprisingly young and beautiful." Is Elisif, Sybille and Erikur alive in the game? They need to be. You can try starting it at the console: setstage SexLabAmorousAdventuresWidow 10 (See the quest stage document in the download area) If you try to start it at the Console and that doesn't work then you have bigger problems. Unfortunately I don't know what those problems might be, but that should do it.
T5T Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Someone probably asked about this before, but I couldn't find anything, so I ask myself. In Serana update, are there any other women/men (like from Dawnguard etc.), that will be involved? I'm looking forward to Serana and I hope it's gonna be really romantic, but I was just being curious.
Uncle64 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Is there one penalty to make Jarl Elisif pregnant? It is like Britney sings. "Ops I did It again" Many childrens now. Pregnancy mods do add allot to this mod.
Razer Prime Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I'm sorry, i had a problem with this mod after finish quest for lydia, i try to make love with her, but the animations won't start (sorry for my english) Make sure you have all the requirements and that you've run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe, if you haven't done this then no animations will start. If you have done this then follow my suggestion further up this page and install Match Maker and try to force a random scene with NPCs, if that still won't work then it's Framework that's the issue, not this mod. I'm sorry i don't really understand but how can i force a random scene?
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 I'm sorry, i had a problem with this mod after finish quest for lydia, i try to make love with her, but the animations won't start (sorry for my english) Make sure you have all the requirements and that you've run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe, if you haven't done this then no animations will start. If you have done this then follow my suggestion further up this page and install Match Maker and try to force a random scene with NPCs, if that still won't work then it's Framework that's the issue, not this mod. I'm sorry i don't really understand but how can i force a random scene? 1. Disable Automatic Free Camera on the SexLab MCM - Does it work now? 2. Use Match Maker and see if any Sex Animations occur when you cast the spell - Does that work? If not go back and follow the directions of installing Sex Lab. If SexLab is installed correctly and Auto Free Cam is Off, then it should work. If it is not, then you have bigger problems. Unfortunately I do not know what those problems may be. You might try re-installing SexLab Framework at that point. Thanks!
arnulfpeter Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, first i want to say that this is an amazing mod. Its just what was really missing so far. Awesome! I have a problem with the quest "a widow too soon". I have stopped the ritual of potema and i go hand the quest in to falk. Then i go to elisif who gives me the quest to bring the horn to the shrine. Now, erikur does not stop me or when i talk to him there is no new dialogue. Nevertheless, i went on the shirne put the horn down but there was no ghost. in the following i can become thane but there is no quest "a widow too soon" for me and no seduction of elisif. ;-( So i think the problem might be the early step in which erikur does not stop me. Do you guys have any ideas? I do not want to miss out on all the amorous solitude quests. Ensure Amorous Adventures is at the bottom (like, the very bottom) of your Load Order. Ensure the quest is running. Is it in your journal? You can try talking to Elisif. You should have a dialogue option like "The Jarl of Solitude is surprisingly young and beautiful." Is Elisif, Sybille and Erikur alive in the game? They need to be. You can try starting it at the console: setstage SexLabAmorousAdventuresWidow 10 (See the quest stage document in the download area) If you try to start it at the Console and that doesn't work then you have bigger problems. Unfortunately I don't know what those problems might be, but that should do it. Hi, thank your for your answer. I have done alot of amorous adventures quests before, so in principle the mod works. I have now put it at the very end of my load order. Elisif, Erikur and Sybille are alive. I have talked to them all before i started any quests. The quest "a widow too soon" is not in my journal, it does not even start and i do not have the dialogue option you mentioned. This is what i did: "When you get into Solitude for the first time, make a bee line for the Blue Palace. Watch a scene play out which leads to the Game Quest "The Man Who Cried Wolf" http://www.uesp.net/..._Who_Cried_Wolf Talk to Elisif to get her early dialogue option. Then talk to Falk, and he will send you off to Wolfskull Cave." I watched the scene but i talked to falk first and got the quest. I do not know what you mean by "elisifs early dialogue option". :-( i talked to her and did all the dialogue options she had, whether she likes the radiant rainment outfit, why Ulfric killed her husband etc.. I tried starting the quest via the console but the "item was not found in the parameter quest" or something like that. Any more ideas?
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Hi, first i want to say that this is an amazing mod. Its just what was really missing so far. Awesome! I have a problem with the quest "a widow too soon". I have stopped the ritual of potema and i go hand the quest in to falk. Then i go to elisif who gives me the quest to bring the horn to the shrine. Now, erikur does not stop me or when i talk to him there is no new dialogue. Nevertheless, i went on the shirne put the horn down but there was no ghost. in the following i can become thane but there is no quest "a widow too soon" for me and no seduction of elisif. ;-( So i think the problem might be the early step in which erikur does not stop me. Do you guys have any ideas? I do not want to miss out on all the amorous solitude quests. Ensure Amorous Adventures is at the bottom (like, the very bottom) of your Load Order. Ensure the quest is running. Is it in your journal? You can try talking to Elisif. You should have a dialogue option like "The Jarl of Solitude is surprisingly young and beautiful." Is Elisif, Sybille and Erikur alive in the game? They need to be. You can try starting it at the console: setstage SexLabAmorousAdventuresWidow 10 (See the quest stage document in the download area) If you try to start it at the Console and that doesn't work then you have bigger problems. Unfortunately I don't know what those problems might be, but that should do it. Hi, thank your for your answer. I have done alot of amorous adventures quests before, so in principle the mod works. I have now put it at the very end of my load order. Elisif, Erikur and Sybille are alive. I have talked to them all before i started any quests. The quest "a widow too soon" is not in my journal, it does not even start and i do not have the dialogue option you mentioned. This is what i did: "When you get into Solitude for the first time, make a bee line for the Blue Palace. Watch a scene play out which leads to the Game Quest "The Man Who Cried Wolf" http://www.uesp.net/..._Who_Cried_Wolf Talk to Elisif to get her early dialogue option. Then talk to Falk, and he will send you off to Wolfskull Cave." I watched the scene but i talked to falk first and got the quest. I do not know what you mean by "elisifs early dialogue option". :-( i talked to her and did all the dialogue options she had, whether she likes the radiant rainment outfit, why Ulfric killed her husband etc.. I tried starting the quest via the console but the "item was not found in the parameter quest" or something like that. Any more ideas? Hmm. Are you running an older version? I kind of think you might be. Update to the latest version of Amorous Adventures - version 1.32.1. (Do not load up the Serana Alpha Test). Remember, I release new quests as content releases. If you are on an older version, the Quest will not be in it at all. Thanks!
arnulfpeter Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Hey, you are right, i was using 1.29. Sorry for not checking this beforehand and many thanks for your help!
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Hey, you are right, i was using 1.29. Sorry for not checking this beforehand and many thanks for your help! Sure thing. Wow, 1.29? That far back? Well, you are in for a lot of new content. Take Lydia for a spin, she's a sweetie now. Thanks!
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Current ETA: Saturday April 11. (11 days)
RealCardia Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) How stable is this? I've been having Skyrim stability issues and this is one of the few mods I've installed recently. It got so bad that I did a clean wipe of Skyrim and went back down to only essential mods (over 100 lol.. >.>). I doubt it is your mod, but I wanted to ask and get an honest answer before I re-add this mod to my order. I really, really like it. Hell I don't even care about the sex as much as the story opportunities. It just adds so much to the game for me. That said, I will make one suggestion. Do with it as you please, you are the modder, I'm not entitled to anything. So whether you add anything or not, it's entirely your decision. The story with Ysolda. I felt like I was building towards really gaining her trust. I discover a bunch of her secrets, yes, but I take the time to solve problems for her, get her out of a bad relationship, etc. And then I blackmail her into sex. That.. was a really dark turn. I was sort of expecting her to instead just be open to being with me instead. I'm not saying it's objectively bad, but it sort of killed it for me personally, felt like a total left turn. Especially considering you mention in the first post that this mod is consent-focused... and that is not consensual. Blackmailing someone into fucking you is just flat out rape lol. My suggestion is that, if you personally ever feel like it's a thing you want to do, add a branching dialogue there so we can either blackmail her or gain her trust naturally? Anyways, love the mod, and I would really like to reinstall it. Edited March 31, 2015 by RealCardia
Sacremas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I have had no stability issues with this mod at all. You should head over to my modding guide and make sure you've done everything there, then post your mod list if you have further problems; http://www.loverslab.com/topic/43043-skyrim-modding-guide/ With Ysolda make sure you talk to her after the sex, turns out she really liked beign treated like that and end up your normal lover instead of your slave. That's what Madraan talked about when he said she was open to a lot of things.
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 How stable is this? I've been having Skyrim stability issues and this is one of the few mods I've installed recently. It got so bad that I did a clean wipe of Skyrim and went back down to only essential mods (over 100 lol.. >.>). I doubt it is your mod, but I wanted to ask and get an honest answer before I re-add this mod to my order. I really, really like it. Hell I don't even care about the sex as much as the story opportunities. It just adds so much to the game for me. That said, I will make one suggestion. Do with it as you please, you are the modder, I'm not entitled to anything. So whether you add anything or not, it's entirely your decision. The story with Ysolda. I felt like I was building towards really gaining her trust. I discover a bunch of her secrets, yes, but I take the time to solve problems for her, get her out of a bad relationship, etc. And then I blackmail her into sex. That.. was a really dark turn. I was sort of expecting her to instead just be open to being with me instead. I'm not saying it's objectively bad, but it sort of killed it for me personally, felt like a total left turn. Especially considering you mention in the first post that this mod is consent-focused... and that is not consensual. Blackmailing someone into fucking you is just flat out rape lol. My suggestion is that, if you personally ever feel like it's a thing you want to do, add a branching dialogue there so we can either blackmail her or gain her trust naturally? Anyways, love the mod, and I would really like to reinstall it. It's stable, but perhaps you could explain the stability issues you were having? That would be good. This mod is just quest and dialogue. It has a lot of scripts but they are all quest scripts. It's not running active monitors and whatnot. So, I mean is something happened specifically on a quest - particularly if the quest breaks for some reason - then that is the kind of issues I deal with. Usually, "Why won't my quest start?". So I would need more info about what the Stability issues are. On Ysolda... ah Ysolda, Ysolda, Ysolda. Nobody seems to get the subtext that it was Tough Love, not black mail. Either that or it doesn't come across. Who knows. All I know is that I didn't build a Blackmail quest and the Epilogue with her was supposed to put it in perspective. Yeah, maybe I'll go back and add the care bear touch to it. So few people get that it was a role-play. Thanks!
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 I guess if I'm going to go back and re-do Ysolda I should also go back and re-do Annekke and Sylgja. And now I guess I need to rethink Dawnguard - an expansion that's supposed to be darker, what with the Molag Bal ritual and the vampires and dead bodies everywhere. Just have to figure a way to squeeze more cute puppies and sunshine into that. On the plus side, nobody's ever got on me about what happened with Aerin,.. yet.
Sacremas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I think Annekke and Stylgja is perfect, and I'm all for Dawnguard being a bit dark, it's a dark storyline after all set in a dark part of Skyrim.
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Well, you know, people like a happy ending.
Sacremas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Yes, well the majority of people in the world are morons and shouldn't be allowed to breed.
FoxFingers Posted March 31, 2015 Author Posted March 31, 2015 Actually, I'm very thankful this came up today. I was setting up Serana to get positively medieval on Valerica but that's not going to work. And I'm OK with that. When the next version is released it's going to be the all new, all different warm and fuzzy edition. Yes, I feel a little stifled as a Storyteller after 27 quests that end in sunshine and roses, but it's what the world wants. And that's OK.
RealCardia Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 How stable is this? I've been having Skyrim stability issues and this is one of the few mods I've installed recently. It got so bad that I did a clean wipe of Skyrim and went back down to only essential mods (over 100 lol.. >.>). I doubt it is your mod, but I wanted to ask and get an honest answer before I re-add this mod to my order. I really, really like it. Hell I don't even care about the sex as much as the story opportunities. It just adds so much to the game for me. That said, I will make one suggestion. Do with it as you please, you are the modder, I'm not entitled to anything. So whether you add anything or not, it's entirely your decision. The story with Ysolda. I felt like I was building towards really gaining her trust. I discover a bunch of her secrets, yes, but I take the time to solve problems for her, get her out of a bad relationship, etc. And then I blackmail her into sex. That.. was a really dark turn. I was sort of expecting her to instead just be open to being with me instead. I'm not saying it's objectively bad, but it sort of killed it for me personally, felt like a total left turn. Especially considering you mention in the first post that this mod is consent-focused... and that is not consensual. Blackmailing someone into fucking you is just flat out rape lol. My suggestion is that, if you personally ever feel like it's a thing you want to do, add a branching dialogue there so we can either blackmail her or gain her trust naturally? Anyways, love the mod, and I would really like to reinstall it. It's stable, but perhaps you could explain the stability issues you were having? That would be good. This mod is just quest and dialogue. It has a lot of scripts but they are all quest scripts. It's not running active monitors and whatnot. So, I mean is something happened specifically on a quest - particularly if the quest breaks for some reason - then that is the kind of issues I deal with. Usually, "Why won't my quest start?". So I would need more info about what the Stability issues are. On Ysolda... ah Ysolda, Ysolda, Ysolda. Nobody seems to get the subtext that it was Tough Love, not black mail. Either that or it doesn't come across. Who knows. All I know is that I didn't build a Blackmail quest and the Epilogue with her was supposed to put it in perspective. Yeah, maybe I'll go back and add the care bear touch to it. So few people get that it was a role-play. Thanks! I've started logging my playtimes and crashes. This is on a new install, I don't even have sexlab or major quest mods or anything. This is just today, this is pretty much standard for the last 4-5 days of Skyrim. At one point I ran from Whiterun to the Valtheim towers and it took me 20 minutes and 5 crashes to get there. 2:00 PM Jumping down a mountain near Whiterun from White River Watch exit. 2:01-2:20 graphics driver crash approaching Whiterun, game recovered. 2:20-2:47 Shooting at a Troll outide NightCaller Temple above Dawnstar, Whitescreen.(perhaps woudl have triggered a killmove) 3:09 -3:16 Me and Erandur reach the bottom of Nightcaller Temple, he says "Wait", CTD. Quest update. 3:18-3:21 Vaermina says He's decieving you". CTD upon quest update. 3:23-3:25 Eradur is in the middle of the ritual, CTD. Probably quest update. I'm actually leaning towards some kind of graphical issue. I mean clearly I'm having quest hangs, but that quest is almost always broken for me anyways. The thing that really gets me is that I'm crashing way more, and I'm crashing when out in the world. The "running down the road NO GAME FOR YOU" crashing is rather consistent, and it never used to happen. I'm also having my graphics drivers crash, and the game will temporarily go black and then come back. I was having this issue in Final Fantasy 14 as well, and had to make a clean install of old drivers from a year ago to make it stop.. I think that was patch related though. I know it seems like most crashes are quest related,but this is abnormal and I only started doing this logging today and ran that quest. MOST of my crashes are running down a road/moving through the world, or loading through a door. I think they are related to loading cells. I recently did a clean reinstall of the newest drivers. More than once. It's insane. Things should be okay but they are not. I've done memtests, stress tests on my GPU, etc. All checks out fine. Nothing is over-heating either (running speccy, everything is real cool and I clean my computer out regularly anyways). Even better, I was playing all last week with zero issues whatsoever, and these issues didn't pop up until I made a new character. But that new character has the same mod loadout as the character I had been playing all week, except an armor mod. I immediately suspected that armor mod and uninstalled it.. changed armors.. cleaned my save.. even reverted to an old save and cleaned that one too.. nothing. Unstable as fuck. So I last resorted last night and wiped Skyrim clean, and reinstalled only the most base essential mods to make my game playable. We're talking a loadout of mods I've been using, stable, for years. I even left some out, like sexlab (though I want it back). Still crashing like crap. So I'm wondering now if I have a bad sector somewhere, or a bad driver (even though I've reinstalled properly 2-3 times), or worst case scenario, that even though its passing stress-tests, my GPU is on its way out. Of course, if its graphics related, that doesn't explain the quest hangs.. though again that quest is usually broken as hell, just not that broken. I always expect SOME instability from a heavily modded Skyrim, but aside from Amorous Adventures, an armor mod, and a house mod from Elianora, NOTHING had changed. Hence why I asked here. After the reinstall the game is more stable but I'm still crashing far more frequently than is acceptable. SOMETHING is going on.. I just have no fucking idea what and I'm gonna lose my damned mind over this. As for Ysolda, well I think the big challenge from your end is that you are trying to tell a story by slicing up dialogue and then creating player responses that make sense with it. Can't be a simple task, not even remotely. I think this is a case of lost in translation, because it really does come off as very mean-spirited. I think the problem is that you don't have access to the actual actress, so you can't coach her to do her inflections in such a way that things seem a lot less serious and more playful.. so it just comes off as blackmail Not probably your fault, in that perspective.
RealCardia Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 BTW I don't think everything has to be sunshine and puppies. I think the problem with the Ysolda quest is a sense of narrative consistency. Again, I really felt like I was doing a good deed, then right at the end, there was a massive tonal shift into the black. I don't think there's a problem with darker quests as long as they are consistent. As I said above, considering what you have access to, it's no surprise that something got lost in translation and we can hardly blame you for trying your hardest. Your work is great As for Anneke and Sylgja.. I thought it was good. It's funny cause incest is a huge fetish of mine (no not irl, some fantasies are better left inside one's head and not involve real people lol).. and that questline ended up making me pretty uncomfortable. That is NOT bad. That's actually good in a way. It didn't detract from my enjoyment of it, it made me enjoy it more. I wouldn't have been made uncomfortable if it wasn't written so realistically. The subject was approached with a lot of maturity, and I really liked it. Don't change a thing. And don't let yourself feel like you have to write a certain way to please the masses, whether it's me or anyone else. Ultimately, you have to be happy with your own work, and stay true to your vision. My commentary on the Ysolda quest was constructive criticism only. I think your work is great, don't change because one person offered a different perspective Also again don't let me dictate your story to you, I will simplyoffer a personal opinion. I sort of agree with Serana going apeshit. I mean.. if you really examine the character situation.. well needless to say that entire situation really disturbed me the first time I played Dawnguard. As a victim of rape IRL, I was.. really upset by that entire part of the backstory. I wasn't able to enjoy Dawnguard at all the first time I played it. I ended up putting Skyrim down for months after that. I think the biggest problem is that yeah we kill Harkon and that's all well and good, but I mean.. we never REALLY get any payoff on that whole thing. "Oh btw my mom and dad joined a cult, I joined with them. I'm gonna be as unclear as I can on whether or not I wanted anything to do with it *hint hint I didn't* and then they basically forced me to get raped by a demonic prince, the emotional scars of which are still totally obvious to this day. Oh and then they acted like we should just be a big fat happy family even though they got me raped to death. BTW I'm totally scarred and upset about it but that's fine it will never come up again" ^Made me rage. And then lay in bed for 2 days. Bethesda really needs some fresh writers.
Sacremas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Actually, I'm very thankful this came up today. I was setting up Serana to get positively medieval on Valerica but that's not going to work. And I'm OK with that. When the next version is released it's going to be the all new, all different warm and fuzzy edition. Yes, I feel a little stifled as a Storyteller after 27 quests that end in sunshine and roses, but it's what the world wants. And that's OK. What about the people who then complain about the story being too soft, you didn't ask the hard questions, this sounds out of character, oh my god I want my money back! Seriously dude you can't please everyone, if you did you'd have invented proper mind-control and personality switches.
RealCardia Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Actually, I'm very thankful this came up today. I was setting up Serana to get positively medieval on Valerica but that's not going to work. And I'm OK with that. When the next version is released it's going to be the all new, all different warm and fuzzy edition. Yes, I feel a little stifled as a Storyteller after 27 quests that end in sunshine and roses, but it's what the world wants. And that's OK. What about the people who then complain about the story being too soft, you didn't ask the hard questions, this sounds out of character, oh my god I want my money back! Seriously dude you can't please everyone, if you did you'd have invented proper mind-control and personality switches. This this this this this. Also I added a second post, and then edited it to talk about Serana. Remember it's just my opinion. We here like your work, don't change it just because of one opinion or one piece of constructive criticism. The only reason I would change anything, if I were you, is if something didn't meet my vision. Then I might go back and revise it. What you say seems to imply this is the case with the Ysolda quest. You say it was meant to be playful roleplay, but it seems it probably came off too strongly. You could amend that very easily with basically no work by putting "(Playfully)" or something like it in the clickable player response when you start to "blackmail" her. That would (should?) make it clear as day to dense people like me that took that portion literally, that the whole thing is intended to be taken more lightly. Again I don't really think that's your fault, you are working with what you have, and you cannot control the inflections of the actress's response. Oh, also I wanted to say, I think this is the best sexlab mod out there. You could completely remove the sex and I would still play it. It adds depth and story and character to the world that was really, really missing before. Even if you wanted to just play a monogamous character it would still be great, because it adds better setup to the relationships of several of the marriable characters in the game. I just want to say your work is fucking splendid.
FoxFingers Posted April 1, 2015 Author Posted April 1, 2015 Well thanks for all the feedback on that stuff. On the technical issue - yeah, I can pretty much guarantee this Mod didn't do that. If it did, believe me, I'd have hard about it from others. That does kind of sound like a hardware issue, not that I'm an expert. A stick of RAM that's going, maybe? Dunno. The two pain points for people with this Mod have always been the Ysolda and Annekke/Sylgja quests. Of the two, Ysolda much more. Ysolda they find either funny like a black comedy or get mad about. Sylgja and Annekke just weirds them out. I'm definitely going to re-do that Ysolda ending, I've just had too many people comment on it. The vision I had for it just doesn't translate. Sylgja/Annekke, I'm not sure. Maybe it's just a case of a good story being in the wrong Mod because people don't come in expecting to get hit with that based on the Mod description. And it's not humorous, it's very real. At least it's consensual. Thanks for the observations on Dawnguard. I want to bridge that gap to make the story make sense. Bethesda went to a very dark place and then tried to pretend they didn't. It's a train wreck. But going darker to make it brighter, I got a feeling it will just be lost on a lot of people. Like Ysolda. Guess we'll see. Thanks!
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