problem with nexus?

[Guest GingerTom]

Hey, everybody--do you realize that we're the most popular thread in the General Discussion? By a long shot.

[Surenas]

That's not the only phenomenon. As of late the Nexus staff visits the tomb of the demon that has made trophies of men more often a month than my remaining friends there visit me per year. What do they expect to find when they enter an empty den? My spirit roaring like a dreaded predator female or what? To record the visitors not the whole gang has to show up, eh?

 

We all are in the ascendant, somehow ^^

[Sεraphim]

New problem with Nexus! A picture with comedic intentions regarding the less than decent file output was removed because they said it "... appears as though you are bashing the Nexus community and our hard work." via private message. Some agree, some take the joke too seriously. As for the mods...

Again, take the keyboard out of your ass. I know it can fit a lot more, but it might relieve some pain.

 

I'll be damned if I'm not bashing Nexus now!

 

Here's the picture:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Siouliusn]

LOL

Funny one, there's nothing wrong with some moderated humor~

(I was exactly like that for the bouncing bread)

[Guest GingerTom]

As a mod I wouldn't remove that.

[Sεraphim]

LOL

Funny one' date=' there's nothing wrong with some moderated humor~

(I was exactly like that for the bouncing bread)

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As a mod I wouldn't remove that.

 

Lol, I'm glad there's at least the Loverslab I visit each day aswell! Much better people here, imo.

[Henfruit23]

Yeah, their sense of humor is definitely lacking.

[Sεraphim]

 

So desu' date=' ne.

 

I just tried the google search and the top result brought me right back to LoversLab. So I think we all know why. Still, remarkable that they so quickly ban someone whose mod is in the top hot files. It's still up there, right now, on their featuring hot files page! LOL, but you click on it and, oops! Like just last week, this happened with another top file, the armored sabre cat mount, which had an issue with the parlor school of thought.

[/quote']

 

Now I get it.

 

Nexus is afraid of Loverslab, no - all other sites that have a similar distribute/archive system of mods. They of course don't admit it, nor even speak of it. Instead, they just use false maturity, propaganda via fancy words, and personal ego-trip to ban whoever premotes/glorifies (which is still not even the right word) another site. Why? Well, why not. It's not like anyone can argue against them, because they'll get banned aswell.

 

Sure, Nexus may have rules that apply to what I've just described. Be aware that I respect their rules to the fullest, as do I respect the rules set by anyone for any thing and everything else.

What I don't respect is how they carry out said rules.

 

"...If we are relaxed about how we moderate, then that will just premote people to not follow our rules..." - Robin Scott, AKA Dark0ne.

 

Now, I'm going to discuss this statement by two parts. A personal level, and a professional level.

 

On a professional level, I don't believe having rash, egotistical moderators to carry out your rules is going to solve anything. Infact, that is what "internet trolls" are drawn towards. Look at the vast amounts of other mod archives around, Nexus' mod. community. Sure, the moderators of sites like ModGames.net, Loverslab.com, bbs.3dmgame.com (and so many more) may be more relaxed than you. From certain points of view, that really isn't a bad thing. You should take note that you'll very rarely see "trolling" on these sites, and when you do, the staff takes care of it in a manner that all moderators should.

 

Now, on a personal note (this may be cuss-word-intensive) I think all of you Nexus "moderators" are idiotic biggots. I think that anyone banned for "trolling about his dislike of the 'hotfiles' content via the imageshare" is down right rediculous. Needless to say that your definition of trolling is simply "anything that defies us."

Would it be fair to also ban the 12 people that endorsed the photo? No, it wouldn't. But hey -- wouldn't be suprised (at all) if you did go ahead and do it.

Your childish hunger to be the first, and most well known sharing site will be your utter downfall. Believe in countless others and I when we say that if you turned off your cowardly censorship against the better sites for a day, your userbase would come running to us. Sure, they'd still probably use you, but with time you'd rot away.

 

Maybe I was being to rash against the Nexus player community as a whole in the past. After all, I don't think it's their fault the way they are. Think about Loverslab for instance, the majority of the current community is mature and collected, and can follow the basic rules without throwing bitch fits 24/7. Why is this? Because the mods aren't idiots here. Usually, my behavior in a place or community is dependant on who is running the whole thing. If something I utterly hate is holding up the roof, how can I be able to respect the room it's holding up in any way? What I'm getting at is that most of us here react to a site differently depending on who we know is watching or not watching, and the mods here? Well, they let us do what we want to an extent further than what we would get on most other sites. In turn that lowers our "need" to be trolls here. Just like parenting, the staff being the parents and the community below the staff being the children. If the parents put shackles around the childrens' legs (metaphorically) and don't allow them to do what they want to with certain limits, it's only going to get worse. That's when the child begins to be a dick while the parent isn't watching, then it escalades and spirals toward something worse. Trust me, I've been living under crappy parents for 17 years now. Now, some of you might be thinking "why should I just trust some kid?" It's the same way for ego-driven moderators. "Why should I listen to some normal user?" is always going to come to mind, it's just how someone controls it that makes them worthy of being called a moderator or not.

 

Also, the photo I was banned for earlier can be found a page back before this post. That, or you can review it for yourself here:

 

 

 

Anyways, that's my rant as to why I hate Nexus, and will likely be my last. I don't plan to venture back there after I press the post button.

Thanks for reading this far anywho .

[Guest GingerTom]

@Velox

 

I hope it's not your last--I enjoy reading all these rants from everyone.

 

I'm not name-calling here but I believe that most of the people on Nexus are sheep because in this day and age people of all cultures are being trained to obey authority figures no matter how stupid or unfair those authorities or their commands or decisions are.

 

A quick guess: Lovers Lab people who find their way here are the wolves--no sheep here.

[Surenas]

Art Attack is a mighty weapon.

 

This is just a female contribution to the theme

 

[spoiler=Take Control]

 

[Guest GingerTom]

Congrats--you made me laugh.

[Metal_Izanagi]

Ahahaha. Nexus moderation is a bunch of boys wishing they were men. Buddah is supposedly 64, but he acts like a 10 year-old.

[Henfruit23]

Ahahaha. Nexus moderation is a bunch of boys wishing they were men. Buddah is supposedly 64, but he acts like a 10 year-old.

 

And he needs a sense of humor. They take things waaaaay too seriously.

[Poontank]

Maybe those are 64 months, not years - that would make him 5 years old... Considering the fact he's even incorrectly using certain terms when insulting banned members by calling them names that don't apply, one would think he's got the mental capabilities of a toddler. Or is it senility? He proudly calls himself 'Official Old Fart' after all. I'd love to see an inofficial one.

 

Wonderful picture, Surenas! That's a gorgeous... Rifle. Oh, the girl's cute, too . And I love the funky font you're using.

[Surenas]

Glad u like heavy-armed boobs that know which side the bread is buttered on, Rick

 

The banned members that get slated to back the heavily inflated membership figure of the Nexus in the race for sponsoring*) simply need some extra sugar and … an outlook not to give up their dreams and to fade away as is hoped for by the dark brotherhood. People ought to know what imo the actual state of affairs is:

 

February 2012:

We’re still alive, absolutely not alone and by no means afraid of bogus giants! They have to bank on our resistance!

 

Resistance is rational!

 

*) Even if you ask for a deletion of your account (by means of whatever) you'll get automatically transferred to the banned member faction. You cannot leave the fucked-up Nexus system once you have signed in. They count the dead among the living instead of substracting them and all this since the onset of the site, That's why they proudly claim to have 2.5 mio members today... after some eleven years of bogus member accumulation - a frakkin lie that might attract dumb sponsors and even dumber members only.

[thesapien]

So what will be the fate of the Nexus?

 

Skyrim Nexus is now stuck between Steam Workshop and LoversLab. Steam now provides for the commercial side giving "legit" gamers a place to go. It's slick, convenient, and coming along nicely with new improvements, the latest being load ordering for mods! LL now provides for, well, we know why we're here. (Me, I love art and content, no matter the self-proclaimed egos). So where does this leave Skyrim Nexus? Their biggest niche, as I see it, is that of the "pirate" they so despise. Pirated copies of Skyrim don't use Steam. So those gamers use Nexus. Irony? How will that one play out?

 

Btw, I really am asking here and do not mean to imply that I have any idea of the answers, no matter how provocative I try to sound. I don't know much about the rest of the Nexus beyond just Skyrim, nor much about the modding community in general.

[Guest GingerTom]

thesapien quote: 'Pirated copies of Skyrim don't use Steam. So those gamers use Nexus. Irony?'

 

Beautiful. You hit that one right on the money.

 

(I don't have Skyrim at this time--hate hills and mountains. I don't use fast travel so going to Bruma is a real pain.)

[Guest GingerTom]

Separate post for Surenas Words Of Wisdom:

 

I'm reading you but some people might miss your Words of Wisdom do to your editing/updating several times hours afterwards in the same post.

 

(Wouldn't want anyone to miss them.)

[Surenas]

I'll keep it in mind, GingerTom

 

A second performance of a volte-face by the Nexus is utterly out of the question cos the sponsors that have caused the first performance of a volte-face won't accept a dark Guybrush Threepwood as welcome benefit claimant that roams the sea under the Jolly Roger. So the Dark Lord simply has to follow the chosen oneway of the money like a puppet on the strings, for the better or worse.

 

♫ Uh-huh, oh yeah, uh-huh! ♫

[lemonbalm]

This guy dodged a bullet. I'm about to fall over in amazement to see an apology from a moderator. TRoaches might've easily been banned here just for discussing ideas (which buddah initially took as something that he needed to report). http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/583644-skyrim-translated-mods/

[Metal_Izanagi]

This guy dodged a bullet. I'm about to fall over in amazement to see an apology from a moderator. TRoaches might've easily been banned here just for discussing ideas (which buddah initially took as something that he needed to report). http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/583644-skyrim-translated-mods/

 

That made me giggle a bit. I find it disturbing that translations are allowed without modder consent, though. What if by some chance I just plain don't want anyone not playing the English version of the game to use my mod? >_> I mean not that I'd do that, but it's a hypothetical. Or what if I specifically say "Don't translate my mod, if someone wants a translation, ask me directly and I will personally learn enough of your language to do it properly, so it fits the rest of the mod seamlessly." ? The way this is, people are getting credit for reupping sound mods with a translated readme. Should just put in a "not english" category and put them all in there, and more specifically give the average user(Probably speaking English) the ability to filter out the translations. I'm not xenophobic in any way, but it bothers me that a mod I created could just be uploaded with a possibly incorrect, albeit well-intended translation, without my having any say in the matter.

 

[thesapien]

That is kind of funny about the translation mods. I wonder if Nexus self counts these as individual mods when tallying their numbers. Since they show up as individual mods in searches and on the pages of the translator and not the original mod, probably so.

 

So they're having a problem with translation mods showing up like spam because, well, they are being spammed, duh. One person can just translate text files for every single mod on Nexus and upload their translations as individual mods, one after another.

 

Nexus treats all assets of a mod as if copyrighted EXCEPT language files. Thus, the translated version of your mod by another "modder" can only include the translated parts. They aren't permitted to re-upload the rest of your mod. But why an author's text? This seems problematic, to say the least. If Nexus is going to go the way of protecting assets of authors, they should go all the way. Since when did things like copyright not apply to the written word and translations?

 

So Nexus either likes the spike in their number of mods and/or they're trying to be cultural hippies on this one issue of permissions because it's worldly and cool even tho it contradicts their normal vigilante attempt to enforce law.

[EvenstarGW]

What bothers me is that Buddah comes in there with a bit of an antagonistic tone. If TRoaches had come back in a similar tone, I bet he would have been banned by now. He'd have good right to be annoyed and file an appeal, which in that state would most likely be denied because he didn't sound apologetic enough. And thus a simple miscommunication would have got another member banned for life, for trivial reasons. The moderators don't have the threat of a banhammer looming over them, so they can reply in any tone they please (usually condescending, antagonistic or just rude). At the same time, if they choose not to like the tone you use, they can ban you on a whim.

 

Even if you are not breaking any rules, they are perfectly willing to bend the rules if it suits them:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/543846-alex-de-large-banned/

 

[thesapien]

EvenstarGW, good to see they're bending the rules to further block and ban things sexual in nature! Seriously, I feel like I'm on crazy pills. We're not even talking about real nudity, as if nudity is so evil anyway. In a violent video game that opens with a beheading, it just seems so insane to sensor nipples.

[Metal_Izanagi]

Any takers on contacting DarkOne referencing the way Buddah reacted, and the condescending tone moderators in general take to people? I've had Myrmaad say some downright insulting things in PMs, because she could get away with it, being a moderator. When I reported her for it, I didn't ever hear anything about it, so I can only assume DarkOne just ignored it because it's her word against mine.

 

I'd contact him myself but I'm kinda on thin ice there as it is, and likely not someone that dude would take the opinion of with anything less than apathy.

 

Everything else aside, it's about time steps toward recognition of the problems Nexus has regarding overzealous moderators be taken. DarkOne needs to be /made/ to realize how out of control his staff is, and how godamn foolish a lot of their rulings are. The community needs to have a say in how things go, because like it or not, when you reach the size Nexus is at, you can't just run everything as a dictator with an inner-circle of 40+ year-old moderators that have been there for years. New blood needs to be brought in to balance the power out, otherwise there's going to be a mutiny, and the forums will find themselves under siege.