problem with nexus?

[Surenas]

EvenstarGW' date=' good to see they're bending the rules to further block and ban things sexual in nature! Seriously, I feel like I'm on crazy pills. We're not even talking about real nudity, as if nudity is so evil anyway. In a violent video game that opens with a beheading, it just seems so insane to sensor nipples.

[/quote']

This is caused by the unexpected return of religious ethics into politics with the end of the Cold War. And it is a worldwide problem with affinities to the medieval understanding of the roles the genders are allowed to play in public, a problem again caused by pious men in power and not by women. These pious ones hate 'immorality' and love 'violence' above all. That's the crux with all One-God religions since their foundation - a splitted tongue that tries to hide the double standards in the propaganda.

 

On the Nexus you can't talk about this religious shift in politics, the curse of all nudity and the favor of bloody violence - by good reasons. One just has to put one and one together. They are suffering from the new religious disease since a couple of years, a disease that is in fact pandemic. You'll find it everywhere, not only in the media. I know the infection of the dark brotherhood since long, and that's why my old Nexus avatar shows me dressed in the veil... and giving them the finger.

[Metal_Izanagi]

I may not fully understand everything you say, but damn, you are good at putting words together in a way that's beautiful, to say the least. o_O It's like seeing the thoughts of a natural-born poet, but on a forum.

[Guest GingerTom]

That was a very nice compliment Metal_Izanagi.

[Metal_Izanagi]

I'm a writer and easily moved; I compliment talent when I see it.

[Guest GingerTom]

I'm also a writer.

[Surenas]

Thank you for your compliment, Metal_Izanagi, I appreciate it

 

Fuck Prude-Dudes!

May God, most Gracious, most Compassionate, beat the shit out them soon!

[thesapien]

I, too, am lured in by your words, Surenas. Your posts feel immaculate yet only after being washed in a little blood and dirt. It's almost intimidating, even if you're Atlas. So I'm sure there are many others who would dido here but hesitate with their own words.

[Eiries]

Even if you are not breaking any rules' date=' they are perfectly willing to bend the rules if it suits them:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/543846-alex-de-large-banned/[/quote']

 

First off, Alex is a complete bro, and I'm super sad to see he got banned. But... do you people even read these things?

 

Okay, the imageshare rules have never been super solidly written in stone, but that's pretty much because as soon as you draw a line, people will go through extreme measures to dance around it. The simple concepts of "nudity" and "sexual content" is far too varied from person to person, region to region.

 

When these rules were first put in places, tons of people were getting banned. I worked my ass off in favor of those that didn't understand the new rules, especially because of language barriers. In doing so I got 19 members unbanned at once. My bitching also helped result in that box you seen every time you post an image to the imageshare; that was done to further drive the point home.

 

But then you have that one cheeseball that posts a few pictures of his character with semen all over their face, just because "it's not written in the rules that you can't." And when I talked to him, he said "I've been extremely pissed ever since they changed the rules so I wanted to ride the borderline as close as possible to tick the mods off w/o getting banned."

 

Fuck that, are you stupid?

 

Anyway, back to Alex: Vagrant said right there that he was warned again and again. He was given a very wide berth to stop posting what he was posting.

 

In a past incident where I spoke with Vagrant for a long time via PM (about two pages worth,) I found out the person I was fighting for had been warned a whole bunch of times, even with him specifically stating THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THAT COULD GET YOU BANNED.

 

It's a "fool me once" mentality. How much bullshit is a moderator supposed to deal with before it gets to be too much?

 

...And Surenas... what? The imageshare rules were put in place after many members became upset with the increasing amount of nudity and sexual content. Dark0ne listened to the complaints and agreed with them. That's it. You can sugarcoat it however you want and give us a deep history lesson, but the fact of the matter is that that's how he wanted it.

 

I'm sorry guys. I know some folk have made points here and there, and I am far from a "Nexus sheep." but sometimes... the shit that is spouted in this thread is just way too much to eat.

[Surenas]

People have giving me different names at different times, Atlas isn’t the worst of it.

And as an earlier reader of Greek Mythology I feel flattered, to say the least. Regarding the common hesitation to speak out loud what is already saved to soul one has to take into account that last time one has got a fist in the face for it, and that curves the tongues backwards for long.

 

Ever seen an open religious debate in a mosque or church? Your're kidding, Eiries. These doors are shut by a twofold reason - not to let the devil in and not to show the own devil inside to the flock of sheep. The latter is the case here. The ignorance of the sheep is in the interest of any shepherd. That's on that!

Sad to say, but you're still the old opportunist you were before, live long. And if you indeed can't digest meat, or take it for shit, the mouth sealed in public on the Nexus but talking about your "great deeds" for the downtrodden on site here, hey, the milk bar to feed your soul is still open over there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest GingerTom]

Now that's the way to insult somebody!

[Surenas]

The truth insults only on the Nexus. That's why this thread came into being and that's why we are here. And here one has to stand for what one has done or failed to do in the Nexus past. Otherwise we're easily talking Italian.

 

And as I've said: Live long! In peace, there or here. Nexarian advice here is as good as exiles advice there, viz misplaced.

[Guest GingerTom]

Surenas quote:'Nexarian advice here is as good as exiles advice there, viz misplaced.'

 

Excellent. (Can I be the first member of your fan club?)

[Surenas]

Surenas quote:'Nexarian advice here is as good as exiles advice there' date=' viz misplaced.'

 

Excellent. (Can I be the first member of your fan club?)

[/quote']

Permission granted.

Who's next? C'mon, guys, we need a treasurer for the club, I guess ^^

[loder]

A vast number of our members have been banned at the Nexus site and I think in most of the circumstances it was totally unfair.

 

http://modsreloaded.com/moderators-ruining-thenexusforums-t3983.html

[Surenas]

Well, 'unfair' is the stud muffin's middle name. Thought you guys would share your negative experiences with Batman's Robin while still in his dark realm *g*

Anyway, you probably think right cos hundreds of thousands 'idiots' can't be that wrong at all. And I've seen many a troll in my life, but a trolling modder is as rare as a moderating troll. Okay, okay, perhaps the latter is not that rare on the Nexus.

 

 

[Etc]

Alright, that's it! I've been quiet long enough. This is gonna sound weird coming from a "new" user i'm sure. Long time lurker, new user. Hi, how are ya'. Online communities make me rather uncomfortable. LL seems to try and keep a layed back and open minded community though, so h-here I go!

 

Opposing opinions ahead:

All this thread is, seems to be about people who think they are victimized for not following the rules, that has degraded into a circle jerk of people patting each other on the back because they...well...didn't follow rules or think things through too thoroughly before you say something.

 

I see very little about the people who got banned and didn't deserve it, which does happen enough I'm sure. You just don't seem to get it. Rules exist for a reason. You choose not to follow them, then you are the one to take full responsibility for your own actions, not the Nexus moderators for doing their job (even if they are dicks about it). Take in example the recent antics of Velox who thinks it's OK to post a picture complaining that no one is putting out mods he wants and other less desirable files (to him) becoming popular. Who is he to tell others what he wants? It's not a joke, it's like spitting on other modders work no matter how insignificant.

 

You are not a vigilante to be pat on the back for doing nothing more then feeling yourself entitled to download, complain and barrage others with insults to your hearts content. Eiries' comment is well very well thought out and is nothing to sling mud at him for. Especially patting others on the back for slinging said mud. That is just plain rude! What don't you understand about the points he made? It's not a political debate on what is right an wrong to just one group of people. It's a matter of RESPECT for other people. YOU have no respect for the Nexus, it's rules and it's users. I will add, moderators act like this too, but two wrongs do not make a right.

 

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the nexus is a perfect community, because it's far far far from it. I've seen plenty of ugly things on there go down, but not more ugly than this thread. The nexus community is ASTRONOMICALLY HUGE and still growing. There are weasels and pretentious, self-important, immature individuals everywhere. That logic goes the same for any community and real life. God forbid anyone has the opposite opinion as any of you here, instead of an exchange of opinions and a normal conversation, you just sling insults and laugh. I'm not gonna lie, I'm disgusted by the blatant disrespect for others with the opposite opinion here.

 

Other sites dedicated to "TES modding" like the nexus don't allow for conversation about it, not out of fear of it, but because they know shit like this will go down. It's nothing but flame bait and room for trouble.

 

Now, I'm not trying to pry you out from others Ms. Surenas, but you in particular have been fueling a lot of interesting conversation here. You sound very learned, but your words to me are hollow and meaningless. I can barely understand the gist of what you try to say most of the time. Perhaps a little bit of a language barrier? Funny enough though...about that conversation on "Wolves and Sheep". Seems like you have quite the little flock of your own, and I can't help but admire that about you.

 

So...Call me a sheep for keeping my own nose clean and obeying rules, hell all I use the nexus for is downloading mods and looking at screen shots. Don't pretend there's a war to fight. The nexus is really not much different then the world we live in, full of dicks we can do nothing about. And if you wanted to do something about it, you can't do it with a negative outlook like this. Life isn't about looking for loopholes, it's more about coexisting without killing each other.

[Surenas]

Well put, over there one will be proud of you when you return in one piece. And because this isn't the Nexus, I have little doubt that you won't get harmed for repeating the known ode to the Nexus ("we aren't perfect but we're hard working for it - we just have to kill a few insurgents more") just in front of those banned for much less that what you've said here, and all this without having an own problem with the Nexus in a thread that deals with such problems.

 

Lemme give you a well-intended advice: Run into minor problems there by speaking freely a few words of criticism (as you've proven here) and then come back and repeat your propaganda chaff ... without blushing for shame.

[Guest GingerTom]

Hello Etc--welcome Lovers Lab and to the most popular thread on the site.

 

Surenas saw you first and said what I would have: This is the 'problem with nexus' thread. Now, having said that, I personally like having other opinions from people who disagree in this thread--if they don't get too rude and start calling everyone names (which you didn't.) then I just lay back a bit.

 

It's called a discussion thread and I say to anyone hop in and voice a different opinion and defend it with all your might--but it's still called 'problem with nexus' and that's why we'll continue to be strong on the subject.

 

Just a little note to everybody: Surenas was on Nexus for a nice long time and I was most certainly on it longer than GingerTom. ?

 

By-the-way, I did start a 'I Like Nexus Because...' thread to be fair--but so far it's not going too well: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=5955

 

PS: If Nexus were to start up today brand spanking new it would die a quick death because no one would put up with it.

 

 

 

 

 

[thesapien]

Surenas, real quick, I meant to say an Atlas type person might find you intimidating, not that you were Atlas because, well, the would be presuming.

[thesapien]

Etc. for real? Seems odd to suddenly jump from silence with a rant about a rant but then miss all the juicy bits.

[Nonsense667]

Etc. for real? Seems odd to suddenly jump from silence with a rant about a rant but then miss all the juicy bits.

 

Etc has said with that one post, far more than what others have been saying for many pages.

[lemonbalm]

Etc, there are few places where we are allowed to vent our frustrations over this and compare notes with others who feel the same way. We're not permitted to question the staff of the Nexus, and most forums don't want to deal with this sort of discussion. I will give you that the fighting in this thread has been uncalled for IMHO, but I'm staying out of that.

 

All this thread is' date=' seems to be about people who think they are victimized for not following the rules, that has degraded into a circle jerk of people patting each other on the back because they...well...didn't follow rules or think things through too thoroughly before you say something.[/quote']You're generalizing here. Not all of us are banned at the Nexus. As I said previously, I have been a member of the Nexus for a long time (5 years) and have not ever even received a strike. I can follow the rules - but neither they nor you can make me like it. I would love to voice my concerns over there, but they have made it clear that they don't want to hear anyone's advice or suggestions. Just look at the thread I linked in my last post. The guy nearly got warned just for posing ideas because buddah was in a bad mood. Shouldn't we be allowed to speak out against that?

 

I see very little about the people who got banned and didn't deserve it' date=' which does happen enough I'm sure. You just don't seem to get it. Rules exist for a reason. You choose not to follow them, then you are the one to take full responsibility for your own actions, not the Nexus moderators for doing their job (even if they are dicks about it).[/quote']The point many of us are making here are that even if we can and do choose to follow the rules, there are problems there and we would like to be free to discuss them. Constantly going on about "their site, their rules" makes it seem like you must be one of the staffers. I don't think we're disagreeing about following rules here. We're disagreeing with condescending attitudes. We're disagreeing with moderators being so snippy that someone can't say one small thing as a suggestion without fear of the banhammer. If I were in charge of a large site I would hope for honest feedback from people who could follow my rules - even if it meant that I saw my moderators in a new light because of the hateful way they were going about their jobs.

 

You are not a vigilante to be pat on the back for doing nothing more then feeling yourself entitled to download' date=' complain and barrage others with insults to your hearts content.[/quote']I don't just download. I am a modder. I have been giving mods to the community for at least 10 years now. Sometimes complaints have a purpose and sometimes those who complain hope that those who we are complaining about will understand some part of our point of view and do something about it. I like the Nexus - I just don't care for the staff. I would love the site if I was not in fear that every keystroke would get me banned and my mods held hostage. This is why my mods will never be posted on the Nexus again.

 

I will add' date=' moderators act like this too, but two wrongs do not make a right.[/quote']Two wrongs don't make a right, but what you and the staff at the Nexus seem to think is that voicing concerns and things we don't like automatically equals badmouthing and the "second wrong." If someone does not complain, how will anyone know if anything is wrong? How will anyone know that you are not happy? How will anyone know how things could be made better?

 

God forbid anyone has the opposite opinion as any of you here' date=' instead of an exchange of opinions and a normal conversation, you just sling insults and laugh. I'm not gonna lie, I'm disgusted by the blatant disrespect for others with the opposite opinion here.[/quote']I really wish you would not generalize. Not all of us have been this way, and if you are indeed a staffer at the Nexus I hope you will go on back now. There's no freedom of speech there because it's a privately owned site, but coming to other sites to try and tell us or convince us of what we should be doing is really not appreciated.

 

Other sites dedicated to "TES modding" like the nexus don't allow for conversation about it' date=' not out of fear of it, but because they know shit like this will go down. It's nothing but flame bait and room for trouble.[/quote']That's something for you to take up with the admins on this site then, if you'd like to have this thread shut down. Of course that really is up to them.

 

[Guest GingerTom]

@loder

 

I just clicked on your link and read this from Mods Reloaded site:

Re: Moderators ruining TheNexusForums?

 

Postby Rebel O Conner » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:04 pm

i remember this guy, acermore. he was banned on every modding site for trolling. i don't think he's a good example to complain about nexus.

 

That's a bold-faced lie by Rebel O Conner. Acermore was a member on Rebel's site, mentioned that TesNexus was attacking people for putting up nudity mods and Rebel locked the thread immediately, saying he didn't want to be bad-mouthing another site. Acermore started a new thread saying, 'Fine. Then if you're going to censor just like TesNexus then I don't want to be part of this site'. And he quit the site.

 

Rebel O Conner (lier, lier, pants on fire) was just spitting out sour grapes--seeing as how everyone left his site after that and he lost it.

 

[Surenas]

@thesapien

 

Aha! I was already wondering ... cos I'm not that fat at all *tehehe*

Atlas or not, everything is more polite than Vagrant0's nasty "Sure'n'ass". Needless to say that I've called him "Viagra-0" henceforth cos it seemed the least a witch could do for the libido of the dude - to put a crushing spell on him!

 

♫ Uh-huh, oh yeah, uh-huh! ♫

 

And may I add that the "I like Nexus"-thread is open for all friends of the site. Here they are somewhat misplaced as spokesmen due to the lack of own experience with the problems at issue. And it goes both ways, as usual. In this way we'd avoid any quarrels... and that'd be great!

[Eiries]

Sad to say' date=' but you're still the old opportunist you were before, live long. And if you indeed can't digest meat, or take it for shit, the mouth sealed in public on the Nexus but talking about your "great deeds" for the downtrodden on site here, hey, the milk bar to feed your soul is still open over there.[/quote']

 

What can I say, I'm a creature of habit. My post, for the most part, dealt with a single topic: the touchy subject of rulings on the Imageshare. That's it. Why?

 

Because it's not a case of bending the rules just to axe a user. But when filled with blind rage, it may seem this way. And this sort of thing has happened more than a couple times here.

 

That's pretty much all I can say to you, because the vast majority of your post was little more than a cheap shot that isn't worth the retort.

 

Etc' date=' what you are not realizing is that there are few places where we are allowed to vent our frustrations over this and compare notes with others who feel the same way...[/quote']

 

And it's great to have a place to get something off your chest... but it should also be a place to experience an epiphany: that maybe, just maybe, something you got reprimanded for might have actually been your fault.

 

Note: this is not always the case. There's more than a few people here that have been treated harshly, and I'm hardly pointing at everyone.