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Gah nothing is working. All the wear and tear effects with "Blunt Pain" or "Burning Pain" in them such as "Vaginal Pain" or "Anal Pain" or "Strangulation" do not disappear no matter how much time passes. And I can't figure out how to remove them using the console. These should be implemented as physical injuries that automatically disappear after T minutes but were not implemented in this way for some reason. Instead they last indefinitely.

 

W&T effects should wear off once the associated body part recovers, it sounds like something's bugged with your setup.  Separate body parts should recover after a set period of time (which is set in the MCM menu with options to give you messages about it).  There isn't that much people can help you with unless you post a papyrus log however, other than saying that the debuffs aren't supposed to be permanent.  

 

If your save is messed up it may be simpler to uninstall the mod, run your save through a cleaner to get rid of leftover scripts/effects, and reinstall and see if W&T works as intended.

 

 

What I have noticed is that if you get to the maximum wear and tear level, say 9, I think, then my character can never recover.  I have waited in game a week without sex.  No change.

 

I just used the debug settings to reset my character's wear and tear status.

 

There are issues with this mod.  I hope that the author will return and fix them.

 

Another issue that I have found is that the mod settings can't be saved or loaded.  Looks like the author did a derp and got some of the slashes wrong in the file path script.  Should be easy for him to fix.

 

I haven't experienced the wear and tear messages getting stuck in the widget that others have reported.  Could be something with their personal setups.  I used to use Estelle's apropos utility, but I stopped using it because I liked the widget better.  I may be misremembering, but I think the latest version did work with the latest version of apropos.  Since I used to use Estelle's, I still have One Tweak installed, since it also helps with things like tabbing out of the game without crashing, and also since AVG likes to either minimize my shit or bring my desktop taskbar to the front every time it updates, even after I told it to stop that shit... assholes.  Maybe my use of One Tweak is the difference?  If not, it could be OS and hardware.

 

 

 

Did it occur to you that W&T in Apropos has been used now for over a year, and it might be a problem on your side? The mod has been downloaded over 100k times and I haven't heard of your problem in a long time.

 

I personally play Skyrim - almost daily, and I always include Apropos. W&T has consistently worked fine across many game saves, and NPCs including some game characters from level 0 to level 80. So the mod is continuously tested by me on a daily basis.

 

There is a maximum W&T value, which defaults to 2000. You can easily go above what you are seeing as W&T = 9 and stay there a while. This is because some individuals didn't want the healing (9->8, 8->7) to start immediately. Basically anything above 800 is equivalent to 9. So you probbaly just have a large value.

 

If in doubt, enable Trace level debugging in MCM, which will spit out all the math going on.

 

 

No, it didn't.  I wasn't aware that abuse ratings could go so high.  Who new that 12 nights in a row with a troll from Untamed would have such lasting effects?

 

What about the saving and loading of settings?

 

 

 

Re: settings, there is an issue but I think its only a benign one. Basically once the settings are saved, it tries to immediately read them back to validate the save was successful, and there's a bug with that code. The saving should still occur successfully. You can check for yourself by looking:

 

%USERPROFILE%\Documents\my games\Skyrim\JCUser\Apropos\MCMUserSettings.txt

 

Should get created.

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So, i got a question. I notcied there are themes for this on the mcm witha a number after. think it goes 4,1,1,2 or soemthing like that. how do these themes work? can i changes them?

 

You can, quite easily.

 

Look for a themes.txt file in the db folder, and you can add or delete any of the themes listed.  You need a folder for each theme, and as many description folders can go in as you want. It'll pick a theme randomly based on the weights you list.. I think a 4 is 4 times as likely as a 1, is how it works. If a desc folder is not present in the themes folder, it'll look for one on the base db folder.. if not there, then it'll pick a generic vaginal, oral or anal or lesbian or whatever based on the animation tag.

 

There should be some documentation on which files you need or do not need in the themes folder, check back a few pages and there should be a link to the development site (though it might be over in the feature request thread instead).

 

I just change all of the themes to 0 except the one I want for a playthrough.

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Hi,

i didnt read the other 145 pages so im sorry when i ask a question that was already answered:

 

Is there a way to get faster a higher W&T level? Or a way thats counts every sex act as an abuse?

 

For Example: I was enslaved, then in the Wolfsclub and after i escaped everything my W&T abuse level was 0 or 2.

I really like these W&T abuse textures but the only level i ever reached was Tears 1. The best thing would be (for my defintion of beeing abused) -> 1 sex act as a victim = 1 abuse level and that you see the first stage of every texture after the secound abuse.

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

 

I hope you can help me with my request.

Posted

Hi,

i didnt read the other 145 pages so im sorry when i ask a question that was already answered:

 

Is there a way to get faster a higher W&T level? Or a way thats counts every sex act as an abuse?

 

For Example: I was enslaved, then in the Wolfsclub and after i escaped everything my W&T abuse level was 0 or 2.

I really like these W&T abuse textures but the only level i ever reached was Tears 1. The best thing would be (for my defintion of beeing abused) -> 1 sex act as a victim = 1 abuse level and that you see the first stage of every texture after the secound abuse.

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

 

I hope you can help me with my request.

 

Look for the Wearandtear_damage.txt file in your mod folder.  Open it and you can change any of the damage amounts.  I asked a question about what the breakpoints were for each abuse level and gooser had a post with the numbers, if you wanted to find it. Otherwise just triple the numbers is what I'd suggest.

 

The 4 levels only max out at 1000 or so IIRC, even though you can set the max well beyond 2000.

 

Posted

 

Hi,

i didnt read the other 145 pages so im sorry when i ask a question that was already answered:

 

Is there a way to get faster a higher W&T level? Or a way thats counts every sex act as an abuse?

 

For Example: I was enslaved, then in the Wolfsclub and after i escaped everything my W&T abuse level was 0 or 2.

I really like these W&T abuse textures but the only level i ever reached was Tears 1. The best thing would be (for my defintion of beeing abused) -> 1 sex act as a victim = 1 abuse level and that you see the first stage of every texture after the secound abuse.

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

 

I hope you can help me with my request.

 

Look for the Wearandtear_damage.txt file in your mod folder.  Open it and you can change any of the damage amounts.  I asked a question about what the breakpoints were for each abuse level and gooser had a post with the numbers, if you wanted to find it. Otherwise just triple the numbers is what I'd suggest.

 

The 4 levels only max out at 1000 or so IIRC, even though you can set the max well beyond 2000.

 

 

 

Thanks im going to try it. But i dont understand the last sentence. In the ingame options there is a slider with a 2000, do i have to triple the number too?

 

Edit: I got raped by a troll and after that i was level 4 :) But sometimes when the sex act is over, i got teleportet somewhere near whiterun in the air. I think this has nothing to do with this mod, but maybe someone knows a answer for that too.

Posted

 

 

Hi,

i didnt read the other 145 pages so im sorry when i ask a question that was already answered:

 

Is there a way to get faster a higher W&T level? Or a way thats counts every sex act as an abuse?

 

For Example: I was enslaved, then in the Wolfsclub and after i escaped everything my W&T abuse level was 0 or 2.

I really like these W&T abuse textures but the only level i ever reached was Tears 1. The best thing would be (for my defintion of beeing abused) -> 1 sex act as a victim = 1 abuse level and that you see the first stage of every texture after the secound abuse.

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

 

I hope you can help me with my request.

 

Look for the Wearandtear_damage.txt file in your mod folder.  Open it and you can change any of the damage amounts.  I asked a question about what the breakpoints were for each abuse level and gooser had a post with the numbers, if you wanted to find it. Otherwise just triple the numbers is what I'd suggest.

 

The 4 levels only max out at 1000 or so IIRC, even though you can set the max well beyond 2000.

 

 

 

Thanks im going to try it. But i dont understand the last sentence. In the ingame options there is a slider with a 2000, do i have to triple the number too?

 

Edit: I got raped by a troll and after that i was level 4 :) But sometimes when the sex act is over, i got teleportet somewhere near whiterun in the air. I think this has nothing to do with this mod, but maybe someone knows a answer for that too.

 

 

The numers in the abuse file are how much "damage" are done to you by the sex act. I meant to triple those, if you wanted to hit abuse level 4 quickly.

 

The break points for each level are hard coded, so you cannot change those. The slider is just how much damage total can be done to you.  If you move the slider higher, the damage levels do not change.  Move the slider quite high and make the damage change/recovery very slow and you'll stay at level 4 a while.

 

The "teleport to the giant camp outside whiterun" is a sexlab issues I've seen discussed on several threads. There has been some speculation about why that location is chosen or how it happens. Whether you actually fall to your death or get teleported back to where you were also appears random.

 

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Hi,

i didnt read the other 145 pages so im sorry when i ask a question that was already answered:

 

Is there a way to get faster a higher W&T level? Or a way thats counts every sex act as an abuse?

 

For Example: I was enslaved, then in the Wolfsclub and after i escaped everything my W&T abuse level was 0 or 2.

I really like these W&T abuse textures but the only level i ever reached was Tears 1. The best thing would be (for my defintion of beeing abused) -> 1 sex act as a victim = 1 abuse level and that you see the first stage of every texture after the secound abuse.

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

 

I hope you can help me with my request.

 

Look for the Wearandtear_damage.txt file in your mod folder.  Open it and you can change any of the damage amounts.  I asked a question about what the breakpoints were for each abuse level and gooser had a post with the numbers, if you wanted to find it. Otherwise just triple the numbers is what I'd suggest.

 

The 4 levels only max out at 1000 or so IIRC, even though you can set the max well beyond 2000.

 

 

 

Thanks im going to try it. But i dont understand the last sentence. In the ingame options there is a slider with a 2000, do i have to triple the number too?

 

Edit: I got raped by a troll and after that i was level 4 :) But sometimes when the sex act is over, i got teleportet somewhere near whiterun in the air. I think this has nothing to do with this mod, but maybe someone knows a answer for that too.

 

 

 

The numers in the abuse file are how much "damage" are done to you by the sex act. I meant to triple those, if you wanted to hit abuse level 4 quickly.

 

The break points for each level are hard coded, so you cannot change those. The slider is just how much damage total can be done to you.  If you move the slider higher, the damage levels do not change.  Move the slider quite high and make the damage change/recovery very slow and you'll stay at level 4 a while.

 

The "teleport to the giant camp outside whiterun" is a sexlab issues I've seen discussed on several threads. There has been some speculation about why that location is chosen or how it happens. Whether you actually fall to your death or get teleported back to where you were also appears random.

 

 

 

I think it didnt worked correctly. Last time a Troll fucked me and i got a abusiv level 4 (the dmg value was 420 or somthing like that). But now i got some sort of slave collar and when someone is near me i get raped, but after some "meetings" i only have abusiv level 1. I tested it again with a 400 dmg value (the normal dmg value for human is 30 i think) and it changed nothing. The only thing that i didnt changed in "W&T_Damage.txt" is "AggressiveOrRape" and this is set to "1.1" so i was thinking it must be something like a multiplier.

 

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I'm currently thinking about how to give players a way to change when abuse textures are applied. 

 

What did you do between Abuse level 4 and level 1? Rest?

 

If you can, turn on Debug and Trace in MCM and attach a apropos0.log file.

Posted

I'm currently thinking about how to give players a way to change when abuse textures are applied. 

 

What did you do between Abuse level 4 and level 1? Rest?

 

If you can, turn on Debug and Trace in MCM and attach a apropos0.log file.

 

There was a time where i had everything on level 0. Then i tripled everything and it worked one time (i surrenderd in a fight to test it). After some ingame hours i got a Collar and after some "encounters" with humans i only had abusiv level 1. So i closed the game, changed the values to 400 for everthing (Default, Humans and so on) and started the game again. After some more "encounters" it was still on level 1 (i dont talk about vagina, ass and face, there i had level 2-3).

So do i have to reset it first before the value 400 works? I think i try it first before i play around with log files.

 

Edit: I set everything to level 0, waited some hourse so the mod says "no abuse at the moment". Should it work now?

 

And since i cant change when the textures should be show up,

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

how high i have to set the dmg value, that for every sex act i get 2 more abusiv levels.

You said you want to give us a way to change when the textures should be applied, but i think thats gonna take some time.

 

Posted

 

I'm currently thinking about how to give players a way to change when abuse textures are applied. 

 

What did you do between Abuse level 4 and level 1? Rest?

 

If you can, turn on Debug and Trace in MCM and attach a apropos0.log file.

 

There was a time where i had everything on level 0. Then i tripled everything and it worked one time (i surrenderd in a fight to test it). After some ingame hours i got a Collar and after some "encounters" with humans i only had abusiv level 1. So i closed the game, changed the values to 400 for everthing (Default, Humans and so on) and started the game again. After some more "encounters" it was still on level 1 (i dont talk about vagina, ass and face, there i had level 2-3).

So do i have to reset it first before the value 400 works? I think i try it first before i play around with log files.

 

Edit: I set everything to level 0, waited some hourse so the mod says "no abuse at the moment". Should it work now?

 

And since i cant change when the textures should be show up,

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

how high i have to set the dmg value, that for every sex act i get 2 more abusiv levels.

You said you want to give us a way to change when the textures should be applied, but i think thats gonna take some time.

 

 

The W&T only goes up for rape and animations marked as aggressive. If your player is not a victim in the animation and if the animation is a regular non-aggressive animation then W&T will not go up.

 

What are you using to start the animations? Defeat?

Posted

 

 

I'm currently thinking about how to give players a way to change when abuse textures are applied. 

 

What did you do between Abuse level 4 and level 1? Rest?

 

If you can, turn on Debug and Trace in MCM and attach a apropos0.log file.

 

There was a time where i had everything on level 0. Then i tripled everything and it worked one time (i surrenderd in a fight to test it). After some ingame hours i got a Collar and after some "encounters" with humans i only had abusiv level 1. So i closed the game, changed the values to 400 for everthing (Default, Humans and so on) and started the game again. After some more "encounters" it was still on level 1 (i dont talk about vagina, ass and face, there i had level 2-3).

So do i have to reset it first before the value 400 works? I think i try it first before i play around with log files.

 

Edit: I set everything to level 0, waited some hourse so the mod says "no abuse at the moment". Should it work now?

 

And since i cant change when the textures should be show up,

 

Daedric and Creature textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-4, Stage 2 is level 5-7, stage 3 is level 8-9

General Body textures -> Stage 1 is level 2-3, Stage 2 is level 4-5, Stage 3 is level 6-7, Stage 4 is level 8-9

General Face textures -> Tears 1 is level 1, Tears 2 is level 2-3, Tears 3 is level 4-5, Sob 1 is level 6-7, Sob 2 is level 8-9. (idk what Battered face decal is because i dont see a picture for it)

how high i have to set the dmg value, that for every sex act i get 2 more abusiv levels.

You said you want to give us a way to change when the textures should be applied, but i think thats gonna take some time.

 

 

 

The W&T only goes up for rape and animations marked as aggressive. If your player is not a victim in the animation and if the animation is a regular non-aggressive animation then W&T will not go up.

 

What are you using to start the animations? Defeat?

 

 

Defeat, SD+, DCursedLoot. I pressed ^ to open the console and most of the time the mod says im the victim. Does ist help when i mark every animation in Sexlab as aggressive?

 

Posted

Hello hello, I'm trying to experiment with this mod and the SexLabUtil mod (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18950-sexlabutil1-2015-03-28/page-1). 

Basically what I'm trying to experiment with, is to see if I can link SexLabUtil to trigger the Orgasm Event of Apropos, as it has the ability to trigger Events. Though, when looking through the source files for Apropos, trying to find what Event to call, it looks to me as it would be the OrgasmStart Event in Apropos.psc. 

However, that Event takes a threadID int value and a HasPlayer bool value, and I have no idea what I'm supposed to pass onto Apropos to fill those values. 

Any Tips?

Posted

Hello hello, I'm trying to experiment with this mod and the SexLabUtil mod (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18950-sexlabutil1-2015-03-28/page-1). 

Basically what I'm trying to experiment with, is to see if I can link SexLabUtil to trigger the Orgasm Event of Apropos, as it has the ability to trigger Events. Though, when looking through the source files for Apropos, trying to find what Event to call, it looks to me as it would be the OrgasmStart Event in Apropos.psc. 

However, that Event takes a threadID int value and a HasPlayer bool value, and I have no idea what I'm supposed to pass onto Apropos to fill those values. 

Any Tips?

 

That's not how it works. Apropos never triggers Orgasm. SexLab does. Both Apropos and SLU subscribe to the same event published from SL.

 

What exactly are you trying to do?

Posted

 

Hello hello, I'm trying to experiment with this mod and the SexLabUtil mod (http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18950-sexlabutil1-2015-03-28/page-1). 

Basically what I'm trying to experiment with, is to see if I can link SexLabUtil to trigger the Orgasm Event of Apropos, as it has the ability to trigger Events. Though, when looking through the source files for Apropos, trying to find what Event to call, it looks to me as it would be the OrgasmStart Event in Apropos.psc. 

However, that Event takes a threadID int value and a HasPlayer bool value, and I have no idea what I'm supposed to pass onto Apropos to fill those values. 

Any Tips?

 

That's not how it works. Apropos never triggers Orgasm. SexLab does. Both Apropos and SLU subscribe to the same event published from SL.

 

What exactly are you trying to do?

 

 

Yeah I know, sorry I wasn't being very descriptive.  I know Apropos doesn't trigger it. 

But my idea was to trigger the Event in Apropos that triggers when SexLab triggers an Orgasm. 

 

What I'm experimenting with is if I can, through SexLabUtil, trigger the Apropos messages multiple times per stage, for example for the Orgasm stage with a delay. Thus being able to have Apropos send multiple messages about the same stage.  

My initial idea was to try to send a false positive directly to Apropos through SexLabUtil's SendEvent option, instead of triggering it through SexLab. (Since if triggering it through Sexlab, it triggers as an actual Orgasm, which would throw it into a pseudo-infinity loop, even though that could technically work if using SexLabUtil's timers). Basically to trigger another randomly selected descriptive message.

 

Admittedly, I've not gotten far enough into modding myself to know if it can or cannot be done that way. Been meaning to start for quite a while but, I just have to get myself together and start learning. ;)

Posted

Hi there.

Can I ask you something?

I wanna make my own message description with some nsap animation but I don't know how to.

 

Firstly, Is it works with nsap's some animations?

 

Secondly, I found unique animations.txt in a db folder, I thought It connects 'unique animations' with 'unique animations folder' in db folder each other.

Is it right?

Then, How can I find accurate name of unique animation in a nsap?

 

thirdly, I want to make message description with MaleActor, then What name should I make to work?

I thought "MaleActor_UniqueAnimationName" will be correct but I don't know.

 

I'm really sorry for bothering and thank you for your amazing work.

Posted

Hi there.

Can I ask you something?

I wanna make my own message description with some nsap animation but I don't know how to.

 

Firstly, Is it works with nsap's some animations?

 

Secondly, I found unique animations.txt in a db folder, I thought It connects 'unique animations' with 'unique animations folder' in db folder each other.

Is it right?

Then, How can I find accurate name of unique animation in a nsap?

 

thirdly, I want to make message description with MaleActor, then What name should I make to work?

I thought "MaleActor_UniqueAnimationName" will be correct but I don't know.

 

I'm really sorry for bothering and thank you for your amazing work.

 

You've got it right, and the easiest way to find the animation's name is to open the console after you have been in the animation, and it should list it.  May need to turn on some of the logging features in the Apropos MCM. It will also give you an idea how many stages the animation has if it isn't obvious.

 

Then after you've added that name to the uniqueanimations.txt, made a folder for "MaleActor_UniqueAnimationName"  and filled it with "MaleActor_UniqueAnimationName_Stage1", stage2, etc, like the others, your lines will show up in game.

The mod loks nice. Would use it with great pleasure if it would work for Female/Female scenes too...

 

Are you using the older 2014 beta or the newer 2015?  Cause the '15 does handle female lesbian animations... somewhat.

 

It is not working with Framework 1.60.

 

Same question.. 14 or 15, because I've been using 15 with SL 1.6 without any problems.

Posted

Great mod, truly awesome work.

 

I have a small problem though. I can't change player font size in MCM Apropos menu, as well as cutting messages into segments has no effect. Normally I wouldn't mind it, but I have made some custom descriptions that are longer than the originals, which then don't display fully. Or is there a message character limit?

I tried by starting a new game, but the issue persists.

 

I'm using 2015 version with SL 1.60.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Posted

Great mod, truly awesome work.

 

I have a small problem though. I can't change player font size in MCM Apropos menu, as well as cutting messages into segments has no effect. Normally I wouldn't mind it, but I have made some custom descriptions that are longer than the originals, which then don't display fully. Or is there a message character limit?

I tried by starting a new game, but the issue persists.

 

I'm using 2015 version with SL 1.60.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Cutting messages into segments is deprecated. It shouldn't be doing anything. The message boxes are designed for about three rows of text, afterwhich the text gets clipped. I would suggest you adjust your descriptions to fit into the system.

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