Nexus Sold

[banditjack]

@choculaNot to mention the mods that would change the races of npcs/characters to other races were being taken down if the race being changed wasn't "white", while mods that changed "white" npcs/characters were allowed. Either allow them all or don't allow any. Also, there was the spiderman flag fiasco where a modder just changed the region code to the Middle East which changed all of the in-game flags to US flags from the gay pride ones. The nexus ppl have made a few posts but it gets lost in the sauce on purpose. Also, they'll heavily police the replies or just lock it down when they make those kinds of posts.

Edited June 20, 2025 by banditjack

[Count Chocula]

2 hours ago, FauxFurry said:

The Nexus did take a stance relatively recently that any mod that removes 'diversity' from a game will be removed and the poster blocked.  For example, that sometime meant that certain characters were prevented from being gender flipped while all others were fair game or a mod enabling both sexes to romance an NPC would be banned if the character was canonically gay. 

The fact that it was optional was not of their concern. That option is no longer an option.

Stupid as the examples you cite sound (not as in you sound stupid, but as in banning mods like that sounds stupid), I fail to see how banning such mods has any kind of a detrimental effect, as long as the policy is clear and not capricious. If the policy is enforced capriciously, then that's the problem, not the hyper political correctness of the policy.

 

@banditjack Regarding the very specific thing you mention about the flags, making a mod that changes Pride flags to some other flag is just a dick move.

Edited June 20, 2025 by chocula

[Jyratx]

On 6/18/2025 at 4:13 PM, belegost said:

Nexus had monetization back when it was still TESNexus, used a completely different domain and only had Morrowind and Oblivion under its belt. It ain't new.

 

How do I know?

I was there, 3 thousand years ago...

 

You people are overblowing this shit. Wait, see what happens, then comment. Right now it's only speculation.

That is the ideal thing to do. We can't jump to conclusions on things that haven't concluded. 

[Jyratx]

6 hours ago, chocula said:

What are the politics re: Nexusmods a few people have been complaining about? I don't see it. I log in, peruse the mods, DL some that looks interesting, maybe see if there's an update for a mod I have installed. I'm just not seeing any of this political stuff.

I see it here:

https://forums.nexusmods.com/forum/188-formal-warnings-bans-and-takedowns/

But I'm usually just laughing at the stupidity on display. The political stuff is just a bonus, because it adds to the already copious amount of stupidity. 

[Count Chocula]

4 minutes ago, Jyratx said:

I see it here:

https://forums.nexusmods.com/forum/188-formal-warnings-bans-and-takedowns/

But I'm usually just laughing at the stupidity on display. The political stuff is just a bonus, because it adds to the already copious amount of stupidity. 

So not something the casual mod user is going to see.

Edited June 20, 2025 by chocula

[Jyratx]

2 minutes ago, chocula said:

So not something the casual mod user is going to see.

Precisely, unless one happens to be in the comment sections at the time of said content occurring (highly unlikely). 

[Grey Cloud]

7 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

Maybe I wouldn't have a problem paying for something like nexus mods if the site wasn't a political disaster and chock full of the usual current year crowd. Also if it was not run or hosted in the nanny state. I think some asian sites are gonna take off but they like to stay low key by keeping their sites hard to use from what I've experienced. Maybe for a while a lot of the major authors move to discord only but in the long run we might not see something super big like nexus again for some time, once it fails. When the new owners start changing things I expect the big moves to happen fast.

So it's not alright for the owners to make money from the site but it is alright for them to politicise it if the politics align with yours?

[Jyratx]

19 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

So it's not alright for the owners to make money from the site but it is alright for them to politicise it if the politics align with yours?

They should be allowed to to make money. That is effectively the essence of a company, corporation, ect. I think what he's referring to are things such as predatory monetization, anti-consumer practices, and so on, which are objectively bad. Paid mods are debatable, and I'm not in a debating mood.

 

And politics... I mean, good God, there's not enough time in the day. Not interested in Tribe A and Tribe B's crap, or even Tribes C - Z; not in modding. If its an open market, it should be an open market. But I know that answer is unsatisfactory in these times, so I'll do the whole Judge Brown thing and say that if you want politics, go the orangutan enclosure in your local zoo. You'll find politics there. 

 

 

[steelpanther24]

12 hours ago, chocula said:

Makes me wonder why game makers tolerate in the first place a site like Nexusmods making advertising revenue driven by content based on their (the game makers') intellectual property.

I have talked about this irl with other gamers recently.    I think that is the key, we were talking about FO4, Skyrim and RFR2 because.......mods, mods and still relatively new, huge AAA game, respectively.    Basically, modding keeps those game titles "fresh".   Mods for FO4 are still being created at a decent enough clip.  Even my mod, created well after FO4 came out has about 12k downloads. 

 

Of course this is speculative, but I wonder if BGS used stats of players playing their games in their market value calculation, much like some newspapers allow people to remain "subscribed" even after their subscription is not paid.    So perhaps losing out on royalties (or whatever they could charge) may be seen as the sunk cost of advertising.    I doubt @Ashal gets a payment from BGS because I still recommend buying FO4 because of the awesome mods here in LL.  

[steelpanther24]

3 hours ago, chocula said:

@banditjack Regarding the very specific thing you mention about the flags, making a mod that changes Pride flags to some other flag is just a dick move.

 

Who made the dick move?  The game maker who put the textures and code in place to make that switch, the modder who just flip the region switch for doing that or the target consumers in that market area?

[Grey Cloud]

46 minutes ago, Jyratx said:

And politics... I mean, good God, there's not enough time in the day. Not interested in Tribe A and Tribe B's crap, or even Tribes C - Z; not in modding. If its an open market, it should be an open market. But I know that answer is unsatisfactory in these times, so I'll do the whole Judge Brown thing and say that if you want politics, go the orangutan enclosure in your local zoo. You'll find politics there. 

No idea who Judge Brown is but you are taking 'politics' to mean party politics. Politics concerns the affairs of a community.

 

50 minutes ago, Jyratx said:

I think what he's referring to are things such as predatory monetization, anti-consumer practices, and so on, which are objectively bad.

They are not objectively bad.  There are more protections against "predatory monetization, anti-consumer practices, and so on" in the UK (where I believe Nexus is based) and more still in the EU than in the US.

[Jyratx]

10 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

No idea who Judge Brown is but you are taking 'politics' to mean party politics. Politics concerns the affairs of a community

I'm referring to Judge Joe Brown. And when you study politics like I have, you'll eventually see that party politics and community affairs are one and the same. One leads to the other, and are thus affected by each other. Hence the orangutan reference; Brown believes that we were once like them, and so when you see them do politics, you're seeing how we once did politics - and how we still do it, perhaps, but less rudimentary. 

But let's just go on under the pretext that we're ignoring everything I just said (fair) and continuing to make the distinction between the two things: in that context, party politics is the bane of anything fun - and yes, both of the two principle sides can fuck off. It should be about fun, and not about who-better-Tribe-A-or-Tribe-B?

 

15 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

There are more protections against "predatory monetization, anti-consumer practices, and so on" in the UK (where I believe Nexus is based) and more still in the EU than in the US.

Maybe I have a bias because I live in the US where such protections don't really amount to much, but I absolutely despise such things. But there are alternatives; I mean, we are here, aren't we? 

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, Jyratx said:

I'm referring to Judge Joe Brown.

I still have no idea who he is. Not that I care.

 

4 hours ago, Jyratx said:

And when you study politics like I have

I have a degree in politics.

 

4 hours ago, Jyratx said:

you'll eventually see that party politics and community affairs are one and the same. 

They are related but that does not make them the same.

 

4 hours ago, Jyratx said:

One leads to the other, and are thus affected by each other.

Politics per se may lead to political parties but there have been one party states, e.g. North Korea, Vietnam. Also 'traditional societies' can have politics without political parties, e.g. council of elders or similar.

Edited June 20, 2025 by Grey Cloud

[Rayblue]

12 hours ago, banditjack said:

DEG mods

 

Looked it up.

 

I really do have to question the emotional maturity of those fanatical about it.

Edited June 20, 2025 by Rayblue

[Fraying9981]

50 minutes ago, Rayblue said:

 

Looked it up.

 

I really do have to question the emotional maturity of those fanatical about it.

 

I found like 10 mods for Skyrim. Is that it or did I miss something?

[DoctaSax]

12 hours ago, chocula said:

Since installing a mod is entirely optional, why would anyone care about a mod that blocks gay or straight marriage? Kind of like the posters who got torqued about the Skyrim mod that converts Argonians to Humans, or the FO4 and NV mods that make Ghouls look Human. I think mods that do things that a player can do for themselves (like disable quick travel or disallow wearing armor) are stupid, so I simply don't install them.

 

Not sure why people being given an option they find objectionable rustles their jimmies. When SWTOR added same gender romance, as an option, some folks blew a gasket over it.

 

People take offense at a merely optional mod, and others also tend to give offense over the same. That second part is often glossed over when people complain about this stuff.

[Count Chocula]

1 hour ago, DoctaSax said:

 

People take offense at a merely optional mod, and others also tend to give offense over the same. That second part is often glossed over when people complain about this stuff.

"Looking for something to get offended by" is a hobby for some people.

[Count Chocula]

6 hours ago, Jyratx said:

IMaybe I have a bias because I live in the US where such protections don't really amount to much, but I absolutely despise such things. But there are alternatives; I mean, we are here, aren't we? 

That sounds like "the free market will make sure bad things don't happen." Which is not the case until after the "bad thing" has happened. And I'm speaking in broad generalities about something bad happening. Plus there's only so much badness that can happen when we're talking about computer games (as opposed to something like food safety). 

 

"Tempest in a teacup," "first world problem," take your pick. But that's not keeping me from engaging in the discussion, so I'm not criticizing anyone here/

[Silvist]

On 6/19/2025 at 3:40 AM, Grey Cloud said:

Most of that is pure speculation even if one accepts the source as trustworthy.

Since when is Linkedin speculation?  You can see even more here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1lcyzxz/nexus_mods_was_acquired_by_chosen_a_company/

All they did was go to the new site owners Nexus profiles.

Also great monetization layout...not concerning at all lol.
 

Spoiler

 

Edited June 20, 2025 by Silvist

[FauxFurry]

7 minutes ago, chocula said:

That sounds like "the free market will make sure bad things don't happen." Which is not the case until after the "bad thing" has happened. And I'm speaking in broad generalities about something bad happening. Plus there's only so much badness that can happen when we're talking about computer games (as opposed to something like food safety). 

 

"Tempest in a teacup," "first world problem," take your pick. But that's not keeping me from engaging in the discussion, so I'm not criticizing anyone here/

I enjoy the fact that I have an opportunity to engage in such ultimately low stakes debates every now and then. It is better than the existential struggle that most life on this planet is embroiled in perpetuity. It is a sign that the society in which one finds one self in is relatively stable even if not ideal (but what matches the ideal outside of the realm of the ideal?).

[legendarytoyou]

When I heard about this I was more surprised than shocked.  I know Robin Scott aka; TheDarkOne has been distancing himself from the Nexus here and there but I didn't think he would go cold turkey.  To be fair though can't blame him.  I've gotten into the habit of ignoring social media as much as humanly possible.  Maybe occasionally I'll check some funny videos or memes on X but only sparingly.  You won't catch me dead on Reddit and about the only thing that concerns me is the potential removal of mods from the Nexus I can't live without.  Might need to update and migrate your mod folder for certain games and add them to a separate save folder to be on the safe side.  For now I'll just keep a, "wait and see," stance.  This akin to a gaming community tornado watch at this point.

[Count Chocula]

12 minutes ago, legendarytoyou said:

This akin to a gaming community tornado watch at this point.

More like a small dust devil watch.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited June 20, 2025 by chocula

[Grey Cloud]

14 minutes ago, Silvist said:

Since when is Linkedin speculation? 

I didn't say it was. What I did was question its reliability as a source.

 

16 minutes ago, Silvist said:

All they did was go to the new site owners Nexus profiles.

And come up with a couple names and the breaking news that Nexus has been acquired by another company which we already knew.

 

17 minutes ago, Silvist said:

Also great monetization layout...not concerning at all lol.

Nexus is already monetised and has been for years; LL is monetised; you are monetised. In a capitalist society virtually everything is 'monetised'. Saying something is going to be 'monetised' as if this is some sort of divine revelation means nothing. 

[FauxFurry]

14 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I didn't say it was. What I did was question its reliability as a source.

 

And come up with a couple names and the breaking news that Nexus has been acquired by another company which we already knew.

 

Nexus is already monetised and has been for years; LL is monetised; you are monetised. In a capitalist society virtually everything is 'monetised'. Saying something is going to be 'monetised' as if this is some sort of divine revelation means nothing. 

Monetized=Funded. Funded means 'will not be suddenly shut down due to non-payment of utility bills' or 'will actually be shipped'. Perhaps people should just say hyper-monetized or 'money grubbing' as the lack of balance or a sense of proportionality is always the problem, not earning money itself. One would not have industry at all without the ability to draw a profit. 

[Silvist]

25 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

I didn't say it was. What I did was question its reliability as a source.

 

And come up with a couple names and the breaking news that Nexus has been acquired by another company which we already knew.

 

Nexus is already monetised and has been for years; LL is monetised; you are monetised. In a capitalist society virtually everything is 'monetised'. Saying something is going to be 'monetised' as if this is some sort of divine revelation means nothing. 

The names were from the Nexus profiles that are labeled literally as "owners", if you look at the profiles you'll see how it links directly to what people have posted.  All I'm trying to do is provide the data.  You are welcome to draw your own conclusions.