banditjack Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 2 hours ago, Fraying9981 said: I found like 10 mods for Skyrim. Is that it or did I miss something? It's kinda slim pickins rn. The main reason why I brought DEG mods up was because it's set up to be decentralized and mods can't get banned. But, users are allowed to block certain mods/modders if they so choose.
banditjack Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 11 hours ago, chocula said: @banditjack Regarding the very specific thing you mention about the flags, making a mod that changes Pride flags to some other flag is just a dick move. Like any mod, no one is forcing ppl to use it. There are many mods that I don't like or care for. But, I'm not advocating for their removal, so maybe ppl need to just focus on using what they want and ignore the rest. Also, I'm pretty sure the flags were originally US flags up until a certain point, so why did the devs feel the need to change it? It's too obvious and acting like it's taboo to change it back is just silly. Furthermore, I'd argue that the US flag is more lore friendly for the setting of spiderman.
Count Chocula Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, banditjack said: Like any mod, no one is forcing ppl to use it. There are many mods that I don't like or care for. But, I'm not advocating for their removal, so maybe ppl need to just focus on using what they want and ignore the rest. Also, I'm pretty sure the flags were originally US flags up until a certain point, so why did the devs feel the need to change it? It's too obvious and acting like it's taboo to change it back is just silly. Furthermore, I'd argue that the US flag is more lore friendly for the setting of spiderman. I agree, no one has to install a mod. You can white knight it however you want. but the motivation for making a mod that changes Pride flags to other flags is "just to be a dick." Because we are talking about things that exist in our real world. Unlike, for example, the Skyrim mod that changes Argonians to Humans (although some people seem to equate fantasy racism with real-world racism, which makes no sense to me). 2
Zor2k13 Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 Why is there a flag in the first place? There used to be zero politics in modding long long ago but that changed at some point.
banditjack Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 @choculayeah this isn't going anywhere since you wanna start attacking me instead of my arguments. so, don't waste anymore of my time by responding to me again.
joethebeast Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 Let’s just hope the new owners aren’t the usual ideologically lobotomized hypocrites who preach inclusion while deleting anything that doesn’t fit their narrow little bubble.
Jyratx Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: I still have no idea who he is. Not that I care. I have a degree in politics. They are related but that does not make them the same. Politics per se may lead to political parties but there have been one party states, e.g. North Korea, Vietnam. Also 'traditional societies' can have politics without political parties, e.g. council of elders or similar. See, this is what would be called "semantics". Let's agree to disagree, shall we? Not in any kind of mood to debate you. Meaning we're not continuing this conversation.
Count Chocula Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 1 hour ago, banditjack said: @choculayeah this isn't going anywhere since you wanna start attacking me instead of my arguments. so, don't waste anymore of my time by responding to me again. Your reply to me saying it's a dick move to make a mod that changes Pride flags is "no it's not." Which is fine because my reply is "Yes, it is." So that's when we hit "agree to disagree." You don't get to decide whether or not I reply to you. You get to decide whether or not to read what I wrote, whether or not to reply to me and whether or not to add me to your ignore list. 3
Grey Cloud Posted June 20, 2025 Posted June 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Jyratx said: See, this is what would be called "semantics". No. It is me responding directly to the statements you made. I had no idea who this Joe Brown was. I have since looked him up and he appears to be some sort of TV judge from the US. I've still no idea how or why anything he said would be relevant to a discussion about politics. Me having a degree in politics is a fact and is nothing to do with language. On the other hand, you saying "And when you study politics like I have" is about language. Would you care to share this methodology of yours? You do not have any answer to the other two points so now you have thrown in 'semantics' while you scuttle off. 1
Rayblue Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) On 6/21/2025 at 1:14 AM, Fraying9981 said: I found like 10 mods for Skyrim. Is that it or did I miss something? Like screaming why their mod got doorslammed for failing content requirements. The following screenshot isn't mine. Spoiler Edited June 22, 2025 by Rayblue
Count Chocula Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rayblue said: Like screaming why their mod got doorslammed for failing content requirements. Hard to take someone seriously when they use the word "libtard." Maybe that's part of your point. Edited June 21, 2025 by chocula 1
Ronnie21093 Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 Honestly, I'm just hoping there are people out there that horde as many mods as they can from NexusMods, especially NSFW ones. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if NSFW mods start getting nuked by the new owners to make the site more "advertiser friendly." 1
Rayblue Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Ronnie21093 said: I honestly wouldn't be surprised if NSFW mods start getting nuked by the new owners to make the site more "advertiser friendly." Last time I checked, the actual advertisements I saw on Nexus are mostly mainstream, as they managed strict enough to lock the mature content away from view. They'll likely to concentrate entirely on the paid access portion, as adult content have proven to be a very strong draw, rather than getting rid of just to please the PTA.
belegost Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 12 hours ago, FauxFurry said: what matches the ideal outside of the realm of the ideal? Nordics are pretty close.
Jyratx Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 18 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: You do not have any answer to the other two points so now you have thrown in 'semantics' while you scuttle off I "scuttled off", as you so eloquently put it, because I saw ours was a pointless conversation. We could have been doing that all day and gotten no closer to even establishing some middle ground... kind of like right now. So like said before, let's agree to disagree. This is a site for... very fun mods, not politics. And frankly, I'd rather talk about how funny it is that Nexus was sold and the future ramifications of that.
Jyratx Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 16 hours ago, Ronnie21093 said: Honestly, I'm just hoping there are people out there that horde as many mods as they can from NexusMods, especially NSFW ones. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if NSFW mods start getting nuked by the new owners to make the site more "advertiser friendly." Probably... idk, 70% of the people here do that. And that's a conservative estimate. But I don't think the adult mods are going away so easily. And if they do, they'll probably end up here or on any of the other sites that aren't particular about hosting them.
Jyratx Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 23 hours ago, chocula said: That sounds like "the free market will make sure bad things don't happen." Which is not the case until after the "bad thing" has happened. And I'm speaking in broad generalities about something bad happening. Plus there's only so much badness that can happen when we're talking about computer games (as opposed to something like food safety). "Tempest in a teacup," "first world problem," take your pick. But that's not keeping me from engaging in the discussion, so I'm not criticizing anyone here/ Contrare, my friend. My concern is that people will have to pay for stuff more and more.
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Jyratx said: We could have been doing that all day and gotten no closer to even establishing some middle ground. Why do we require a middle ground? Either what you wrote was factual/accurate or it was not. I gave my reasons for why I thought it was not and other than your original assertion you have not given anything as to why you think it is. Instead you tried to claim 'semantics' and now you are going for the lack of a 'middle ground'. 1
Wolfshrike Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Jyratx said: Contrare, my friend. My concern is that people will have to pay for stuff more and more. They almost certainly will. Companies don't buy sites like Nexus without seeing ways of getting more money out of them than they spent. 2
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 2 hours ago, Jyratx said: Contrare, my friend Au contraire. 1
travelmedic Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 2 hours ago, Jyratx said: My concern is that people will have to pay for stuff more and more. People can't expect to keep getting something for nothing indefinitely. As long as we're getting value for our money, we should expect to have to contribute in some fashion. Food is a necessity for all of us, but unless we contribute the time and effort to grow our own, we have to pay. Automobiles are a necessity for many of us, and we have to pay. Healthcare is a necessity, and we have to pay, whether fee for service or through taxes. Even if mod authors are willing to create mods for free, it still takes an enormous investment for a site like Nexus or LL or wherever to host them. Nexus has about 40 staff - they need to be paid, then server costs, hardware and software, backend expenses, etc. That money has to come from somewhere. A real world example: for a time, I was Chairman of a non-profit organization run entirely by volunteers. No one, including me, made a single cent. Yet we still had an annual budget greater than $600K to be able to provide the basic services that were in our charter. Fuel, equipment and supplies, it all adds up. Neither Nexus, nor LL, nor any of these other sites are charities. The history of mod monetization and the resistance to it is well known, and I'm sure the new owners know that making sudden drastic changes could see them ruin whatever "goodwill" Nexus has, and see them lose all of their investment in the long run if people flee in droves. (To where though is the issue, as right now I don't think anyone is able to compete in terms of size.) However, I'm guessing that a small monthly subscription for faster downloads (or something similar) is within the reach of most people.
Count Chocula Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 2 hours ago, Jyratx said: Contrare, my friend. My concern is that people will have to pay for stuff more and more. And so what if they do? They'll either decide it's worth it to pay or they won't. The free market isn't great for everything, but it is for some things. Yachts and add-ons for computer games are two where it works just fine. 1
Count Chocula Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 16 minutes ago, travelmedic said: People can't expect to keep getting something for nothing indefinitely. Nexusmod users were not and are not getting something for nothing, any more than Facefuck users do.
travelmedic Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 6 minutes ago, chocula said: Nexusmod users were not and are not getting something for nothing, any more than Facefuck users do. For many, maybe most, people that's true. However, there has been plenty of discussion in the forums here on LL over the years about which ad-blocker software is the best so that people can skip the ads here, or on Nexus, or on Youtube, or wherever. So some people are getting something for nothing, at the expense of people who don't use adblockers.
Count Chocula Posted June 21, 2025 Posted June 21, 2025 (edited) 56 minutes ago, travelmedic said: For many, maybe most, people that's true. However, there has been plenty of discussion in the forums here on LL over the years about which ad-blocker software is the best so that people can skip the ads here, or on Nexus, or on Youtube, or wherever. So some people are getting something for nothing, at the expense of people who don't use adblockers. People who do not use an ad blocker do not incur any kind of "extra expense" due to others using an ad blocker. They don't get shown more ads or something like that. Rather, you could argue they incur extra expense due to their decision to not use an ad blocker. Edited June 21, 2025 by chocula 1
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