Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

Alright, just tried the update. I skipped 1 update because my game keep CTD.

 

I hate this update. Now this mod only force Doggy Style, it ruined the purpose of animation list. I have like 10 animations on for aggressive animation & your mod only plays 1 & disable switch position button. If my char ask for food or drinks, it'll open the master's inventory, same goes as clothing. I was trying to see if the custom clothing work, I don't know because it didn't appear on the list. Most of all, my char. is enslaved to a corpse AGAIN! So the enslavement wouldn't kick in & so she keep stucking in bleed out because the other NPC who is capable of enslaving her keep beating her up. The debug message keep saying "Your aggressor gives you the last kick" 

Surrender by press K wouldn't start the first rape.

No more "invisible dog fence" I know this because I send my char. to the Dainty Sload (because it's been forever & I want to see if anything has been fixed yet) Her master just walk off the ship so again, my char. ran away by not running away AGAIN!

 

Are you using Devious Devices?

 

The mod will try to select animations that will make sense based on your current level of punishment items (animations should be selected from your current list of animations in SexLab).

 

If your hands are attached and you are wearing a chastity belt, you will get mostly oral animation.

If you are gaged on top of that, you should get groping instead.

 

That part is still experimental and still being tweaked. As with many aspects of the mod, it will get better with time. Better be patient... it will take a while until everything is fixed 'again'.

 

I didn't do anything to the switch position button intentionally.

 

Custom clothing should work. There is a problem with prisoner rags but I already fixed it for the next version.

 

Being enslaved to corpses is inevitable if your aggressor dies before the enslavement process kicks in. There are checks about the master being dead but it is possible they end up being skipped somehow.

 

Were you enslaved by a raised corpse? or did your master die soon after enslaving you?

 

 

I don't use Devious Devices, never find chastity belts & those stuff arousing. So no, I have no idea what's the problem. The corpse wasn't a zombie or anything, just a normal corsair on Dainted Sload who died before the enslavement kicks in.

 

So I disabled all Doggy Styles & found out your mod still use Normal list than Aggressive list.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Alright, just tried the update. I skipped 1 update because my game keep CTD.

 

(...)

 

Are you using Devious Devices?

 

The mod will try to select animations that will make sense based on your current level of punishment items (animations should be selected from your current list of animations in SexLab).

 

If your hands are attached and you are wearing a chastity belt, you will get mostly oral animation.

If you are gaged on top of that, you should get groping instead.

 

That part is still experimental and still being tweaked. As with many aspects of the mod, it will get better with time. Better be patient... it will take a while until everything is fixed 'again'.

 

I didn't do anything to the switch position button intentionally.

 

Custom clothing should work. There is a problem with prisoner rags but I already fixed it for the next version.

 

Being enslaved to corpses is inevitable if your aggressor dies before the enslavement process kicks in. There are checks about the master being dead but it is possible they end up being skipped somehow.

 

Were you enslaved by a raised corpse? or did your master die soon after enslaving you?

 

 

I don't use Devious Devices, never find chastity belts & those stuff arousing. So no, I have no idea what's the problem. The corpse wasn't a zombie or anything, just a normal corsair on Dainted Sload who died before the enslavement kicks in.

 

So I disabled all Doggy Styles & found out your mod still use Normal list than Aggressive list.

 

 

 

I will check why a dead master is still allowed (it shouldn't ... there is a test for that).

 

I am forcing 'aggressive' on pretty much all sex animations in SD, so I don't know why it is still using the Normal list.

[pinky6225]

Has anybody else had a problem with lovers victim with the sex if naked and arousal over the set threshold in MCM?

 

Yesterday when i spoke to owner it started to trigger an animation showed the SD recieving message at the top left etc and owner was moving towards PC but then a nearer NPC did the "Ha found you" and initiated sex. I'd hoped the owner part would trigger once the lovers victim sex was over but instead i lost the ability to talk to owner (no name appeared when you moved close with cursor) and saving/loading or changing cell didn't happen to fix it.

 

Just reverted to earlier save and its the first time i've had a conflict come up (having the daedric artifact sort of makes the lovers victim surplus to requirements so i may uninstall it)

[DeepBlueFrog]

Has anybody else had a problem with lovers victim with the sex if naked and arousal over the set threshold in MCM?

 

Yesterday when i spoke to owner it started to trigger an animation showed the SD recieving message at the top left etc and owner was moving towards PC but then a nearer NPC did the "Ha found you" and initiated sex. I'd hoped the owner part would trigger once the lovers victim sex was over but instead i lost the ability to talk to owner (no name appeared when you moved close with cursor) and saving/loading or changing cell didn't happen to fix it.

 

Just reverted to earlier save and its the first time i've had a conflict come up (having the daedric artifact sort of makes the lovers victim surplus to requirements so i may uninstall it)

 

I fixed a situation where you could lose your ability to talk to your owner. That will be part of the next version.

 

Rape on arousal from Lovers Victim is similar to Coveted in SD+, but it has no dialogue.

 

The 'Ha.. found you' actually comes from SD+ and can be triggered from your master as well as other NPCs.

[Muppit Show]

Hey Skyrimll, Thought you were going on a Vaca till this Weekend; WB btw 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hey Skyrimll, Thought you were going on a Vaca till this Weekend; WB btw 

 

Not vaca... business trip shortened by bad weather in the US

[AwfulArchdemon]

SICK OF THIS SNOW!!

[DeepBlueFrog]

New version and last update for a while (releasing it out now to get it out of my system).

 

- Added: detection of keyword for mind control devices

:: Prevents removal of devices during enslavement

 

- Fixed: Excluded followers from enslavement comments

- Fixed: Reduced slow move from shackles

- Fixed: PC doesn't equip default prisoner rags from Master

- Fixed: Make sure punishment items (gags) are removed from inventory and not just unequipped

- Fixed: Master too aggressive (chasing anything in sight).

 

[xboronx]

Wow i still remember when you said during X-mas we shouldn't get used to those frequent updates

 

SD 1.12 is already running quite stable for me overall. Enjoy your break from SD+ or modding in general (not sure if your last update for a while comment is SD+ specific ), you truly deserve it.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Wow i still remember when you said during X-mas we shouldn't get used to those frequent updates

 

SD 1.12 is already running quite stable for me overall. Enjoy your break from SD+ or modding in general (not sure if your last update for a while comment is SD+ specific ), you truly deserve it.

Thanks.

 

My to do lists are too long between this and my other mods. I decided on a different approach.

 

I am going to take just one item at a time and fix it.

When I have enough fixes, I will make a release.

The speed between releases will depend on how many easy items I can add or fix until I encounter another difficult issue.

[lightling]

 

some questions, sorry for my poor English

 

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The owner  will walk long long away to sell the slave, can we just "fast travel?"

 

 

(...)

 

Normal Masters will not sell you anywhere in this version of SD+.

 

 

Why "normal" masters will not sell slave? This is interesting. I think masters can sell the slave more often and with more type of customers - just like someone in city

 

If there is a "slave market", it will be exciting

[jfraser]

 

 

 

 

some questions, sorry for my poor English

 

(...)

 

The owner will walk long long away to sell the slave, can we just "fast travel?"

 

(...)

 

Normal Masters will not sell you anywhere in this version of SD+.

Why "normal" masters will not sell slave? This is interesting. I think he will sell the slave more often and more type of customers - just like someone in city

 

if there is a "slave market", it will be exciting

I agree!

[shinji72]

Thank for the update.... I'll download it later.

 

Now some (i think) bugs I have found.

1)  The Blackblood Marauders at broken Oars grotto... It seems they are not included in any faction... because when I get enslaved by one... the other keep attacking me. Solved via console. 

2) There is line "do you have other task for me" which is rather confusing. In my test, this dialogue leads to the owner rewarding you. So maybe the line could be more clear: Like "Please, I've done all you want. Can you trust me a little more?"

3) I've notice that when you are being passive and try to please the owner, sometime a punishment animation start... And that's all right. Maybe he's sadic and he just wants to torture the PC. But after the punishment end, the shackles are back. Like It has been a real punishment for something I did wrong. While it was the opposite. I was pleasing it.

4) I think some aggressive animation are missing from the list, I thinking AP skull fuck and some Arrok rape.

 

Hope this help!

 

 

[Guest]

Can someone list what good mods to going with this and what conflicts?  (Please no dickgirls, bestiality, necrophilia,etc.)

[shinji72]

On my part I would say Sexlab Warmbodies is almost necessary (if U use Frostfall). For making money and freed yourself all prostitute mod work well with this, TFD prostitution, radiant prostitution and working girls. You can even install them all. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Thank for the update.... I'll download it later.

 

Now some (i think) bugs I have found.

1)  The Blackblood Marauders at broken Oars grotto... It seems they are not included in any faction... because when I get enslaved by one... the other keep attacking me. Solved via console. 

 

That happens sometimes. I noticed the same thing with the naked hunters sunbathing close to Darkwater mine. I will add that to the list of things to look at.

 

2) There is line "do you have other task for me" which is rather confusing. In my test, this dialogue leads to the owner rewarding you. So maybe the line could be more clear: Like "Please, I've done all you want. Can you trust me a little more?"

 

I agree. That line makes it easy to miss the option to leave enslavement. Thanks for the reminder.

 

3) I've notice that when you are being passive and try to please the owner, sometime a punishment animation start... And that's all right. Maybe he's sadic and he just wants to torture the PC. But after the punishment end, the shackles are back. Like It has been a real punishment for something I did wrong. While it was the opposite. I was pleasing it.

 

That will be fixed once I move to a mood based system. I am thinking of keeping demerits as a global trust level to control when you receive the option to go free. For day to day interactions, the Master will have good and bad mood based on their initial mood that day, what you are doing, what you have done the day before and the general demerits level. Some actions will add toward his good mood and other toward bad mood (like straying away out of range too many times).  Demerits will be updated daily based on current mood levels.

 

It is still a little vague but that kind of system will allow better extensions into more tasks for the slave.

 

In that context, hands and feet will be released more dynamically based on the master's current mood and overall demerits.

 

4) I think some aggressive animation are missing from the list, I thinking AP skull fuck and some Arrok rape.

 

Check your logs - especially the tags section of SexLab animations.

 

SD+ includes a system that filters which animation is played based on the kind of bindings the player is wearing.

For example, Skullfuck should not appear if you are wearing a gag.

The system is still a little flaky and it happens sometimes that it generates a list of tags that contradict each other (example "doggystyle, oral").

 

Hope this help!

[DeepBlueFrog]

On my part I would say Sexlab Warmbodies is almost necessary (if U use Frostfall). For making money and freed yourself all prostitute mod work well with this, TFD prostitution, radiant prostitution and working girls. You can even install them all. 

 

Warmbodies is useful but not necessary.

 

The hidden light that appears during scenes in SD+ is actually a campfire. 

That means you can survive cold snaps by making sure your Master is handling you regularly

 

As for mods for the original question, I would point out a few:

 

- Dance of death : if you want full immunity during killmoves

 

- Defeat : requires some tweaks with configuration parameters. I personally prefer to keep Defeat for its Player as Aggressor options to take care of a Master once my PC's hands are released and turn off completely the PC as Victim side.

 

- Dangerous nights : generally compatible and useful to add some action around campfires (your master will not like having a stranger sneak in to get a piece of you at night). Corpses of strangers make a good supply of clothing or blades to help with escape.

 

- SexLab Victim / Comfort: essential companion mods to SexLab Aroused in my opinion.

[Cursed Atelier]

hi, maybe im just stupid but can you get a gag and a armbinder in this mod when you are endslaved when yes how?

and what do you excatly mean with this? Added: detection of keyword for mind control devices

can you pc gets mindcontrolled? or how do i need to understand this?

[Silbert]

Hi all! Hi skyrimll!

I really enjoy this mod & seeing it getting better & better from update to update is really joyful. I didn't test the 113 update but ill do it for sure!

 

But one thing disturbs me in this mod. It's street rape by NPCs. I like the idea though but not the way it's done. When PC loose the fight enslaved & get raped it's ok. But when PC walks down the street in full armor & armed to the teeth & some farmer or beggar starts sex it looks odd not to say unrealistic.

 

So i have couple ideas on that matter

1. make it "lover's victim" mod way. The rapist NPC starts the brawl if he wins he gets the prize if he loose he gets his ass kicked.

 

2. when the street rape starts we all understand that it's Sanguine decided to play with his toy so why not to add some buff like "Sanguines curse"  or "Sanguines weakness" so when NPC is about to initiate the rape PC gets this buff & bleed out animation starts to play & after that the rape animation starts too. 

 

3. make it "SL Submit" mod way no brawl but NPC just comes to PC & perform hand to hand power attack so the bleed out animation starts to play & so on.

 

If i'm concerned my favorite is #2

 

BTW The animation of force stripping PC by NPC from "SLDefeat" mod would look great in all this cases.

 

Cheers!

[DeepBlueFrog]

hi, maybe im just stupid but can you get a gag and a armbinder in this mod when you are endslaved when yes how?

and what do you excatly mean with this? Added: detection of keyword for mind control devices

can you pc gets mindcontrolled? or how do i need to understand this?

 

For armbinders, you need to have Devious Devices installed and you need to get the device outside of SD+.

SD+ will recognize it and work accordingly but there is no option at the moment for the master to give you one of these devices (that will come later).

 

For Mind Control, this is for compatibility with my Mind Control mod (see in my signature). It is an attempt at making sure the master will not be mind controlled if you are carrying the mind control device when he/she is stealing your equipment (untested yet).

[Cursed Atelier]

 

hi, maybe im just stupid but can you get a gag and a armbinder in this mod when you are endslaved when yes how?

and what do you excatly mean with this? Added: detection of keyword for mind control devices

can you pc gets mindcontrolled? or how do i need to understand this?

 

For armbinders, you need to have Devious Devices installed and you need to get the device outside of SD+.

SD+ will recognize it and work accordingly but there is no option at the moment for the master to give you one of these devices (that will come later).

 

For Mind Control, this is for compatibility with my Mind Control mod (see in my signature). It is an attempt at making sure the master will not be mind controlled if you are carrying the mind control device when he/she is stealing your equipment (untested yet).

 

ah okay thank you so if i have a gag in my inverntory, and i get enslaved my char can be gaged by the master.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

hi, maybe im just stupid but can you get a gag and a armbinder in this mod when you are endslaved when yes how?

and what do you excatly mean with this? Added: detection of keyword for mind control devices

can you pc gets mindcontrolled? or how do i need to understand this?

 

For armbinders, you need to have Devious Devices installed and you need to get the device outside of SD+.

SD+ will recognize it and work accordingly but there is no option at the moment for the master to give you one of these devices (that will come later).

 

For Mind Control, this is for compatibility with my Mind Control mod (see in my signature). It is an attempt at making sure the master will not be mind controlled if you are carrying the mind control device when he/she is stealing your equipment (untested yet).

 

ah okay thank you so if i have a gag in my inverntory, and i get enslaved my char can be gaged by the master.

 

 

Not yet... SD+ currently recognizes only what you have equipped.

 

If you have a gag from Devious Devices in your inventory, it will remain there (your master will not steal it).

If you have it equipped, your master will not force other gags on you (and you will hopefully have no oral animation as long as you are wearing it).

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Tested it a bit, will try to check other mechanics. SO far, the mod still use Normal list.

[Guest]

I second this, I basically never play with Coveted now that it means random sex. I much prefer a sense off danger; my ideal scenario would be a serious debuff applied in combination with a brawl.

 

Although I realised that even a brawl makes no sense from an RP perspective, since a resistant character would draw a weapon and kill the aggressor (ending the fight). So maybe make it explicit that the aggressor is beingv controlled, or replace a brawl with a touch spell causing rape.

 

I just don't like it when the PC is raped without the possibility of resisting

 

Hi all! Hi skyrimll!

I really enjoy this mod & seeing it getting better & better from update to update is really joyful. I didn't test the 113 update but ill do it for sure!

 

But one thing disturbs me in this mod. It's street rape by NPCs. I like the idea though but not the way it's done. When PC loose the fight enslaved & get raped it's ok. But when PC walks down the street in full armor & armed to the teeth & some farmer or beggar starts sex it looks odd not to say unrealistic.

 

So i have couple ideas on that matter

1. make it "lover's victim" mod way. The rapist NPC starts the brawl if he wins he gets the prize if he loose he gets his ass kicked.

 

2. when the street rape starts we all understand that it's Sanguine decided to play with his toy so why not to add some buff like "Sanguines curse" or "Sanguines weakness" so when NPC is about to initiate the rape PC gets this buff & bleed out animation starts to play & after that the rape animation starts too.

 

3. make it "SL Submit" mod way no brawl but NPC just comes to PC & perform hand to hand power attack so the bleed out animation starts to play & so on.

 

If i'm concerned my favorite is #2

 

BTW The animation of force stripping PC by NPC from "SLDefeat" mod would look great in all this cases.

 

Cheers!

[Guest]

Can you list any conflicting mods? Submit + Devious Devices?