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HEY

after update the pc got enslaved ..a status appeared that the slaver shaved the head of the slave ..but the pc is still with hair ??

Check the release notes.

I changed the system for hair removal.

You need either Hormones or Immersive Fashion for that part to work.

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The new version seems to be working really well, and even some of the weird glitchiness I didn't mention between it and Maria Eden that was happening seems to be gone (I had some trouble entering the Dreamworld with a ME follower in the previous version, I had to load back, now it seems the follower is locked out and works smoothly upon return to skyrim).

The zazslavefaction issue is still cropping up though.

See edit about deletion;
One peculiar glitch I noticed; when you do a struggle to escape animation when in armbinder or shackles, the character seems stuck until you bring up the UI extension menu (directional button right or left on controller) and then the HUD (health line, etc) which is gone  appears again, the character can move, and you get the message about struggle success or failure.
I even had this happen with a sex animation not starting one time (although it was only once out of about 15 animation runs so might be coincidence). 
I don't know if this is just a UI extensions-SD+ thing or Maria Eden connected as well, but I thought I'd mention it. 

The other issue is really a game play thing that I get around by using console command but if you're looking for suggestions, figured 'd mention it.

There's a lot you just can't do when the character is in shackles. If you can't even open doors to fetch things for your master, and then he pops the shackles back on you the moment you get free, it kind of brings everything to  standstill unless you use additem menu during the second or two of freedom from the shackles you get. I think it was mentioned you need to watch where you get enslaved, but it seems silly that you should run halfway across skyrim to find an apple when there's a perfectly good keep door right to your left with a table full of food on the other side. 
I'm also noticing that when you're wearing the shackles, it seems to be kind of intermittent when they're acting as shackles and when they're acting as just clothing items for effect.


Is that deliberate? If so, would it be possible to make a toggle for it? 

Edit: I think this was caused by using the struggle animation to get free and then preemptively putting the shackles back on when my character approached the master again rather than letting him reequip them (the wrong set of shackles too). I reloaded and allowed the master to do it and didn't have this problem. So I guess that's a no no. :D

I am still getting that racemenu issue I mentioned. I narrowed it down to something that happens during the auto equip/ unequip shackles causes it to happen. Is anyone else getting an issue where they can't exit racemenu (ShowRaceMenuAlternative)? I haven't had this happen until I put SD+ on.

I found a way around it where when stuck in racemenu and unable to exit you can coc to say, whiterun and that will kick you out of racemenu and place you back at your last location with any changes you made in racemenu saved. But I'd like to find a solution to the problem if possible. 

Is there a console command to close racemenu? Also, does anyone know how to scroll down the list of active effects on your character when you open console command? I see the list of the first dozen and then there's a down arrow at the bottom of them, but I don't know how to actually scroll down that list. I was wondering if this was some sort of ghost effect causing this and wanted to try removing it. 


By the way, congratulations, I think you did what I thought was impossible and made SD+ work with Maria Eden which is pretty awesome. I've played into multiple quest lines and made it to level 20 on this character with (among other mods) SD+, Maria Eden & SexlabHormones all working pretty well together and nothing has blown up yet. 

 

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So no one here with all the vast knowledge of this thread can answer my question? Can you or can you not progress past the point of the quest with sanguine, where he/she asks you to go back to your world t find "THE truth", I'd really appreciate a response if anyone knows.

 

Sorry for the delayed response... I meant to reply earlier and completely missed it.

 

For the short term, you can consider that Sanguine is just messing with you when he talks about THE Truth.

 

Eventually, I have a quest planned around that.

I will start working on it when I am done with fixes to Hormones... and Chapter 2 of the Sisterhood of Dibella.. and the conclusion to Alicia.. and other updates to SD+, Dialogues and Stories.

 

At this rate, probably not before next year.

 

 

Did you start working on it ?  :D

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 Also, does anyone know how to scroll down the list of active effects on your character when you open console command? I see the list of the first dozen and then there's a down arrow at the bottom of them, but I don't know how to actually scroll down that list. I was wondering if this was some sort of ghost effect causing this and wanted to try removing it. 

 

 

The shift button is the activator for those extra buttons. Hover your mouse over them and tap the shift key. Any extra information available to that option is shown by small arrows to the right of whatever you're currently looking at ex: >

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Hi, i'm new here, and I must be honest with you, I'm not sure I set SD+ as it is intended to be. I follow the instructions but I've installed quite the numbers of mods so I suppose something has broken something else.

First of all, I want to be enslaved only if defeated, and so it happened, but last time I was defeated by some thief, after the enslavement I only had a popup saying "now go to your cage!" or similar and then nothing happened (but controls where disabled). After a while via zaz I retake controls and I flee without any problem, but I'm unsure if I'm free or not. I kept the collar on, anyway... Other thing, but I don't know if it's related to SD+ or some other mod: often I'm speaking to some npc (sex is irrelevant) when this npc stop everything else to tell me "slave! Serve me!" or similar... Now, it is everything nice and good but this happens very often, so it starts to be quite annoying. Can it happened because I have the slave collar equipped? Can you give me a hint on which mod can be or how to reduce the possibilities that this can happen?

 

I have come across this issue where he tells my PC to go to her cage and the owner gets locked in "busy" mode while I lose control of my character as well. Also I noticed a bug when enslaved by giants after they take their first round with you the ability to communicate with them is locked. You can interact with them you just cannot select any actions.

 

 

I had a similar issue occasionally where the owner sends you to the cage and then you're character walks a bit,  stops & you can't move or interact (whether you made it inside the cage or not). I used the maria eden cheat "release player" which I'm pretty sure is just "enableplayercontrols" in console command.

That made the cage scenario resume properly about half the time. But I found that if you're within 10 feet of the cage when you're ordered to enter it, it usually works properly. Then the only issue is my character gets stuck crossing the cage threshold (like you do when you're being force walked up a flight of stairs and get stuck trying to take the next step) and it eventually resolves by just teleportation you inside.

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 Also, does anyone know how to scroll down the list of active effects on your character when you open console command? I see the list of the first dozen and then there's a down arrow at the bottom of them, but I don't know how to actually scroll down that list. I was wondering if this was some sort of ghost effect causing this and wanted to try removing it. 

 

 

The shift button is the activator for those extra buttons. Hover your mouse over them and tap the shift key. Any extra information available to that option is shown by small arrows to the right of whatever you're currently looking at ex: >

 

 

Thanks, I see how that works now. If the issue comes back I'll see if it helps figure it out.

 

I started a new game and everything is working fine with SD+. If it doesn't happen again I'll just assume the upgrade from the previous version screwed up, since I made no changes to my setup other than that upgrade. 

 

Is there a post somewhere with how the new allowance/ point system works? I'm at slavery level 6, 56 allowance points and about 8 days of enslavement and 6,000/850 gold until release (it says I need 850 to pay off, I've given 6,000) and the master still says he won't release my character. 

 

Is the only way to get free now to steal the key or kill the master? 

 

edit; also, skyrimll, is there an issue with limited removal? I checked it on and when the character gets enslaved none of her items get removed and put in the chest in the dreamworld (non-quest items aren't being removed as well). I think I remember they did get removed before I checked it though. 

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Is there a post somewhere with how the new allowance/ point system works? I'm at slavery level 6, 56 allowance points and about 8 days of enslavement and 6,000/850 gold until release (it says I need 850 to pay off, I've given 6,000) and the master still says he won't release my character. 

 

Is the only way to get free now to steal the key or kill the master? 

 

IIRC there's a 10-day minimum slavery limit, I think. Try waiting for another two days?

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Is there a post somewhere with how the new allowance/ point system works? I'm at slavery level 6, 56 allowance points and about 8 days of enslavement and 6,000/850 gold until release (it says I need 850 to pay off, I've given 6,000) and the master still says he won't release my character. 

 

Is the only way to get free now to steal the key or kill the master? 

 

IIRC there's a 10-day minimum slavery limit, I think. Try waiting for another two days?

 

 

It's been about 15 days now. Here's where I'm at;

 

Disposition: 10

Overall: 13

Trust: 82

Allowance: 2 hrs owed

Mostly Submissive

-10

Slavery Level 6

Exposure: 914786533

 

Still says he won't release character.

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Is there a post somewhere with how the new allowance/ point system works? I'm at slavery level 6, 56 allowance points and about 8 days of enslavement and 6,000/850 gold until release (it says I need 850 to pay off, I've given 6,000) and the master still says he won't release my character. 

 

Is the only way to get free now to steal the key or kill the master? 

 

IIRC there's a 10-day minimum slavery limit, I think. Try waiting for another two days?

 

 

It's been about 15 days now. Here's where I'm at;

 

Disposition: 10

Overall: 13

Trust: 82

Allowance: 2 hrs owed

Mostly Submissive

-10

Slavery Level 6

Exposure: 914786533

 

Still says he won't release character.

 

 

Slavery level 6 - at that level you are just a mindless sex toy and there is no automatic dialogue to join your master.

 

If you have the latest version of SD+, try resisting the popup Submit/Resist dialogues to bring your Submissiveness to more than 0 and the dialogue should show.

 

If you want a shorter route, try setting your max slavery level to 5 and ask again' Why me' of your master to reset your level.

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Is there a post somewhere with how the new allowance/ point system works? I'm at slavery level 6, 56 allowance points and about 8 days of enslavement and 6,000/850 gold until release (it says I need 850 to pay off, I've given 6,000) and the master still says he won't release my character. 

 

Is the only way to get free now to steal the key or kill the master? 

 

IIRC there's a 10-day minimum slavery limit, I think. Try waiting for another two days?

 

 

It's been about 15 days now. Here's where I'm at;

 

Disposition: 10

Overall: 13

Trust: 82

Allowance: 2 hrs owed

Mostly Submissive

-10

Slavery Level 6

Exposure: 914786533

 

Still says he won't release character.

 

 

Slavery level 6 - at that level you are just a mindless sex toy and there is no automatic dialogue to join your master.

 

If you have the latest version of SD+, try resisting the popup Submit/Resist dialogues to bring your Submissiveness to more than 0 and the dialogue should show.

 

If you want a shorter route, try setting your max slavery level to 5 and ask again' Why me' of your master to reset your level.

 

 

So if the character has the bimbo sex curse that means you technically can't get free without getting cured first? That's what sets your to slavery level 6 automatically, right?

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Hi. Been a while ^_^ Hope you're all doing fine. But... To the point; I haven't installed the latest version yet(I'm on 3.5.3A) but I had a couple of seemingly basic questions. Before I get to those though let me admit now that I simply wanted to play(As said it's been a long while) before going through massive, boring, mod updates(I've got about 200 mods to check). In the process I did fiddle with the options a bit and probably messed something up somewhere, which may or may have not caused these issues. Unfortunately I don't remember at all what I did, ironically I was messing around with the MCMs to jog my memory. LOL! So my questions;

- Is SD+ supposed to be visible on the BleedOut tab in DA's MCM, like Defeat is? If yes, then something's wrong because it's not there for me.

- I am getting multiple DA BlackOut outcomes, like being enslaved likely through SD+ and at the same time "Rescued", ending up in a temple or inn...

 

- At times I get a prompt to Submit/Resist during the BleedOut which of course messes things up as after the BlackOut I may be asked for Submit/Resist again, for example by a different NPC.

- Skyrim stopped caring about priorities or disabling scenarios and outcomes, it just does its thing randomly. I may disable being rescued, but on the next encounter that's what I get as an outcome.

- Lastly, are there any major updates to the core mods I should definitely get ASAP? I know I can check on my own but a heads up would be appreciated. I've decided skipping minor or kind of in between updates, saves me a lot of head aches.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT : Skyrim, hair growth and shaving seemed OK, why was it necessary to make that feature dependent on yet another mod? I am seriously considering skipping 3.5.5 just for that alone. Unless it has major changes over 3.5.3A to the point of being practically necessary to update.

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Not exactly.

 

You can get free if you make an effort to stop being submissive for a while. No need to be cured.

 

I'm a bit confused to how the slavery works now. Are there certain things you should do to win a master's trust (like giving food, items & gold) but certain things you also shouldn't do if you want to get offered freedom (like resisting when prompted to submit or resist).

 

If that's how it works that makes a certain amount of sense. 

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Not exactly.

 

You can get free if you make an effort to stop being submissive for a while. No need to be cured.

 

I'm a bit confused to how the slavery works now. Are there certain things you should do to win a master's trust (like giving food, items & gold) but certain things you also shouldn't do if you want to get offered freedom (like resisting when prompted to submit or resist).

 

If that's how it works that makes a certain amount of sense. 

 

 

I think the idea is, you submit just enough not to get punished, but not so much that your master considers you nothing but a plaything.

Submit too much, and you're just a sex toy.

Resist too much, and IIRC you'll be sold off to a different master and have to start the process all over again.

It's not a knife-edge walk, though - there's plenty of give in there and room for mistakes, and moving up and down the levels. :)

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Not exactly.

 

You can get free if you make an effort to stop being submissive for a while. No need to be cured.

 

I'm a bit confused to how the slavery works now. Are there certain things you should do to win a master's trust (like giving food, items & gold) but certain things you also shouldn't do if you want to get offered freedom (like resisting when prompted to submit or resist).

 

If that's how it works that makes a certain amount of sense. 

 

 

I am working on a better system of daily tasks while enslaved, but for now, the goal is to keep your master happy with sex, gifts and submit when asked.

For the rest, Content Consumer gave a pretty good description.

 

Hi. Been a while ^_^ Hope you're all doing fine. But... To the point; I haven't installed the latest version yet(I'm on 3.5.3A) but I had a couple of seemingly basic questions. Before I get to those though let me admit now that I simply wanted to play(As said it's been a long while) before going through massive, boring, mod updates(I've got about 200 mods to check). In the process I did fiddle with the options a bit and probably messed something up somewhere, which may or may have not caused these issues. Unfortunately I don't remember at all what I did, ironically I was messing around with the MCMs to jog my memory. LOL! So my questions;

 

- Is SD+ supposed to be visible on the BleedOut tab in DA's MCM, like Defeat is? If yes, then something's wrong because it's not there for me.

- I am getting multiple DA BlackOut outcomes, like being enslaved likely through SD+ and at the same time "Rescued", ending up in a temple or inn...

- At times I get a prompt to Submit/Resist during the BleedOut which of course messes things up as after the BlackOut I may be asked for Submit/Resist again, for example by a different NPC.

- Skyrim stopped caring about priorities or disabling scenarios and outcomes, it just does its thing randomly. I may disable being rescued, but on the next encounter that's what I get as an outcome.

 

The latest versions of SD+ and DA fix that. 

Note that you will have to manually register the quests in DA for them to appear.

 

- Lastly, are there any major updates to the core mods I should definitely get ASAP? I know I can check on my own but a heads up would be appreciated. I've decided skipping minor or kind of in between updates, saves me a lot of head aches.

 

Devious Devices assets, integration and expansion got a significant update a few weeks ago. You will need them with the new version of SD+

 

Thanks in advance.

 

EDIT : Skyrim, hair growth and shaving seemed OK, why was it necessary to make that feature dependent on yet another mod? I am seriously considering skipping 3.5.5 just for that alone. Unless it has major changes over 3.5.3A to the point of being practically necessary to update.

 

I was getting interferences between the head shave from SD+ and hair loss from Hormones. 

And since I was updating Hormones to be compatible with Immersive Fashion, I decided to reduce the amount of work on my end and focus only on Hormones.

So, if you care about shaving hair, piercings, makeup as a slave, you will need at least Hormones and at best, Hormones and/or Immersive Fashion.

Options for piercings through Immersive Fashion are coming soon to SD+

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Options for piercings through Immersive Fashion are coming soon to SD+

 

 

ahhhh!!! 

 

*breathes* Ok, holy crow. I'm sitting at 248 current working mods(don't even ask how), >.< If I could merge crap together for that godforsakenawesomemuseum mod, I'd give myself about 12 esp's back... I have the head shaving and things turned off for SD+, and have checked out IF. If I can toggle off most of those other options (don't really have an interest in them) I will be dying for the piercings tie-in. 

 

How in the devil do you make it so I want to ADD things to my load order that I normally don't really think about?! haha

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Is it still possible to be dragged halfway across Skyrim by a master on a walk?

 

I -- I mean, my pc really misses being paraded naked from one place to another.

 

Maybe your owner occasionally needs to walk from wherever they are to Whiterun or Riften or something. With an dialogue option to fast-travel there, as in the Mistwatch scenario. But without having to be captured by hired thugs.

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Issues I've faced so far...

Death Alternative just wouldn't let my char. be enslaved, it keeps healing her (I still don't like Death Alternative. And yes, I toggle SD scenario & set to 99)

If train run enabled but no threesome sex selected, train run will not work.

Creature slave dialogues stopped working on falmer.

Some creatures reject my character, saying something like "Go away, I have enough slaves already".

My char. don't get chained & collared, but if I console command a collar or a cuff, the mod will immediately treat those items as slave gears.

SD Test Room.

-Gargolye was not in the room & attack my char.

-After my char. enslaved by the test room Lurker & killed it, I didn't get my items back

 

Not sure if issue...

Random dialogues that used to trigger sex like "Stay on your knees where you belong" does not trigger sex. Doesn't seem to be the case with creatures.

 

SDAddon helped solve most of my Devious Device problem, thank you. But the random nature of this mod still means I get something that doesn't match like a mix of DD & Zaz or items with different colours. I'd like to be able to set items specifically but I don't feel this is the main problem right now.

 

Sexlab Defeat is no longer supported, right? Just checking.

 

Trying to figure out if this question got answered but my ADHD meds have worn off and I am sporting a definite headache.

 

More specifically.... ALL my owners say "Go away, I have enough slaves already." Over and over and over... Obviously I have something in my load order or something that is either configured wrong, or shouldn't be there, just wondering if anyone knows specifically what might be causing it.

 

I got this issue after updating and adding a few new mods, most notably, Devious Framework, or some such that adds a leash system, allowing owners to yank the player back to them etc, also a mod adding more traps and monster attacks (which I'm thinking of getting rid of since it doesn't distinguish where you are, so the traps and monsters can attack anywhere, which can be a bit annoying when you're in the middle of a sex scene with your sweetie (or master) and a gargoyle just shows up and crashes the party.... and failure consequences (for alchemy etc).

 

Also, the Sexlab Defeat thing... It's not? >o< that will make me sad *investigates that...*

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Hello, I'm not sure I understand all the new functionalities (awesome work by the way, this is very impressive), are those supposed to be DA events ? Because if yes, then they don't show up in my DA : 

- DA scenarios
:: sexlab version of default scenarios
:: lair - beast rape
:: slave pen 
:: generic new master + chores for release
:: slave trade / belethor 
:: arena in forts/caves
:: bestiality show in caves
 
- A bleedout scenario that forces you to surrender if you have certain devices on, like the armbinder/cuffs. Sometimes players would be captured the moment they go down, they shouldn't be able to use DA blackout scenarios to "escape" to a friendly inn, spawn a friendly adventurer, etc. 
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Hello, I'm not sure I understand all the new functionalities (awesome work by the way, this is very impressive), are those supposed to be DA events ? Because if yes, then they don't show up in my DA : 

- DA scenarios
:: sexlab version of default scenarios
:: lair - beast rape
:: slave pen 
:: generic new master + chores for release
:: slave trade / belethor 
:: arena in forts/caves
:: bestiality show in caves
 
- A bleedout scenario that forces you to surrender if you have certain devices on, like the armbinder/cuffs. Sometimes players would be captured the moment they go down, they shouldn't be able to use DA blackout scenarios to "escape" to a friendly inn, spawn a friendly adventurer, etc. 

 

 

If I remember well, these are from the second post and are just ideas for later - not features (although some are already done or partially implemented).

I will remove them to keep things more clear.

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@skyrimll For the cages thing I think people just want to see them be used more and not become depreciated. I mean what irresponsible master is going to leave their property laying around where it could potentially walk away or be stolen. :angel:

 

I find that to be a much more immersive experience then being choked out by a magical collar. ;)

 

And thanks for your continued work on these mods, hope you enjoying your Christmas!

I understand, but given how broken the current cage scene is at the moment, it is more helpful to give people a way to turn them off when needed.

 

I will revisit that later and use the cage system from zaz anim pack. Hopefully that will make them more reliable.

 

 

As an alternative you could use that punish animation where the player is put in a cage.

 

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Issues I've faced so far...

Death Alternative just wouldn't let my char. be enslaved, it keeps healing her (I still don't like Death Alternative. And yes, I toggle SD scenario & set to 99)

If train run enabled but no threesome sex selected, train run will not work.

Creature slave dialogues stopped working on falmer.

Some creatures reject my character, saying something like "Go away, I have enough slaves already".

My char. don't get chained & collared, but if I console command a collar or a cuff, the mod will immediately treat those items as slave gears.

SD Test Room.

-Gargolye was not in the room & attack my char.

-After my char. enslaved by the test room Lurker & killed it, I didn't get my items back

 

Not sure if issue...

Random dialogues that used to trigger sex like "Stay on your knees where you belong" does not trigger sex. Doesn't seem to be the case with creatures.

 

SDAddon helped solve most of my Devious Device problem, thank you. But the random nature of this mod still means I get something that doesn't match like a mix of DD & Zaz or items with different colours. I'd like to be able to set items specifically but I don't feel this is the main problem right now.

 

Sexlab Defeat is no longer supported, right? Just checking.

 

Trying to figure out if this question got answered but my ADHD meds have worn off and I am sporting a definite headache.

 

More specifically.... ALL my owners say "Go away, I have enough slaves already." Over and over and over... Obviously I have something in my load order or something that is either configured wrong, or shouldn't be there, just wondering if anyone knows specifically what might be causing it.

 

I got this issue after updating and adding a few new mods, most notably, Devious Framework, or some such that adds a leash system, allowing owners to yank the player back to them etc, also a mod adding more traps and monster attacks (which I'm thinking of getting rid of since it doesn't distinguish where you are, so the traps and monsters can attack anywhere, which can be a bit annoying when you're in the middle of a sex scene with your sweetie (or master) and a gargoyle just shows up and crashes the party.... and failure consequences (for alchemy etc).

 

Also, the Sexlab Defeat thing... It's not? >o< that will make me sad *investigates that...*

 

 

Answered my own questions - Defeat isn't listed anywhere as incompatible.

 

And - I got frustrated with the traps and failure mods and disabled them, my masters are no longer telling me to go away~

 

For anyone else who cares -

 

Traps and Pitfalls and or FMEA while technically not incompatible, one or both of them can trigger owner spam at this point. So if you have that issue with these installed one of them may be the culprit.

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Issues I've faced so far...

Death Alternative just wouldn't let my char. be enslaved, it keeps healing her (I still don't like Death Alternative. And yes, I toggle SD scenario & set to 99)

If train run enabled but no threesome sex selected, train run will not work.

Creature slave dialogues stopped working on falmer.

Some creatures reject my character, saying something like "Go away, I have enough slaves already".

My char. don't get chained & collared, but if I console command a collar or a cuff, the mod will immediately treat those items as slave gears.

SD Test Room.

-Gargolye was not in the room & attack my char.

-After my char. enslaved by the test room Lurker & killed it, I didn't get my items back

 

Not sure if issue...

Random dialogues that used to trigger sex like "Stay on your knees where you belong" does not trigger sex. Doesn't seem to be the case with creatures.

 

SDAddon helped solve most of my Devious Device problem, thank you. But the random nature of this mod still means I get something that doesn't match like a mix of DD & Zaz or items with different colours. I'd like to be able to set items specifically but I don't feel this is the main problem right now.

 

Sexlab Defeat is no longer supported, right? Just checking.

 

Trying to figure out if this question got answered but my ADHD meds have worn off and I am sporting a definite headache.

 

More specifically.... ALL my owners say "Go away, I have enough slaves already." Over and over and over... Obviously I have something in my load order or something that is either configured wrong, or shouldn't be there, just wondering if anyone knows specifically what might be causing it.

 

I got this issue after updating and adding a few new mods, most notably, Devious Framework, or some such that adds a leash system, allowing owners to yank the player back to them etc, also a mod adding more traps and monster attacks (which I'm thinking of getting rid of since it doesn't distinguish where you are, so the traps and monsters can attack anywhere, which can be a bit annoying when you're in the middle of a sex scene with your sweetie (or master) and a gargoyle just shows up and crashes the party.... and failure consequences (for alchemy etc).

 

Also, the Sexlab Defeat thing... It's not? >o< that will make me sad *investigates that...*

 

 

Answered my own questions - Defeat isn't listed anywhere as incompatible.

 

And - I got frustrated with the traps and failure mods and disabled them, my masters are no longer telling me to go away~

 

For anyone else who cares -

 

Traps and Pitfalls and or FMEA while technically not incompatible, one or both of them can trigger owner spam at this point. So if you have that issue with these installed one of them may be the culprit.

 

 

I am afraid its not specifically Traps and Pitfalls or FMEA - in my current playthrough I don't have either of them installed but have today come across the same problem.  Never seen this before and haven't changed anything else other than upgrading to the latest version of SD. I'll investigate more and let you know if I find anything.

 

Oh - and monsters appearing during sex scenes isn't FMEA - there are no summon monster traps in FMEA,  and FMEA traps are only triggered when harvesting plants, picking locks or crafting potions. :)

 

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