Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[AnonAngelion]

 

Looking at the "To do's" list here I would like to suggest that you don't overdo certain things, like having sanguine or others steal your stuff, at least not unless you can code it to replace items into your SKY-UI favorites list so you don't have to Re-organize everything every time.

 

Also if you haven't added this already it would be great if you could put in some sort of emergency bail out option while enslaved, because I've tried 1 or 2 slavery mods before and they often entail you being almost PERMANENTLY trapped in slavery and unable to go off and play the game the way you want to, just saying, a lot of modders who make these slavery mods seem to feel that the player should never again be allowed to play the game normally especially if they choose to be a submissive character, the role play is nice but one should be entitled to drop the "Role Playing" whenever they get bored of it or just want to go do other things.

 

I've just found it really annoying that these mods usually just stick you in a soul destroyingly long loop of waiting around on your master and having almost constant sex, in fact mods like "Captured Dreams" barely even let you do that much, your forced to just do constant boring quests in the vain hope that you will one day be allowed to take that chastity belt off and ACTUALLY get down to business, but you never do, at least not as a submissive which is pretty lame...

 

Anyway I don't mean to ramble, I like the idea of these type of mods, I just wish they were more user friendly, and offered...as ironic as this sounds...more "Freedom" to Role Play as one would like.

 

Maybe you've already thought of these things, but I just wanted to put my thoughts out there, in the hopes of future updates.

 

SD+ already has a Safe Word option in the menu (under Status I think). You can use it as an emergency stop for a dead-end enslavement.

 

NPCs stealing your stuff is also already done in the Dialogues side of SD+. It comes with a popup menu to allow you to decide when to allow items to be stolen. I can't really control what is stolen (beyond quest items) but you can decline to have items stolen - which counts toward your rebellious tendency toward your owner. If you accept to have items stolen, that counts toward your submissive tendency instead.

 

 

Ah very well then, thank you for replying with haste, I appreciate it, that puts my mind at ease somewhat, I will certainly give this mod a try at least, now to get D.A.Y.M.O.Y.L and pray that it gets along with defeat nowadays, I know those mods used to get along fairly well but they've since been updated so it makes me nervous lol, wish me luck.

[TheOrdinator]

I too agree that the armbinder doesn't seem to fit well in this mod. It's a nice looking item on its own, but when I have to see my arms with missing hands clip out through it every time my Master or Mistress wants to have their way with me, it really kills the mood. Is there an easy way to take it out? The normal iron cuffs are already sexy looking enough and they fit with the setting.

[Kakabishan]

I too agree that the armbinder doesn't seem to fit well in this mod. It's a nice looking item on its own, but when I have to see my arms with missing hands clip out through it every time my Master or Mistress wants to have their way with me, it really kills the mood. Is there an easy way to take it out? The normal iron cuffs are already sexy looking enough and they fit with the setting.

 

Yeah second this, not really a fan of the armbinders, the missing hand really does kill it for me too..

[henkalv]

I have been searching for why this happens, but I cannot find a answer anywhere. When my character gets defeated by a hostile faction and enslaved they stay hostile to my character and proceeds to kill her. I am probably doing something dumb, but I cannot figure out what.

[TheOrdinator]

So, just in case skyrimII wants to keep the armbinder in his mod, does anyone know how to just remove the armbinder from the list of items that your captor puts on you? It seems simple but I've been poking around in the Creation Kit and haven't been able to figure it out.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Devious Devices are made of 3 items behind the scenes, so it is not very easy to exclude even in CK editor.

 

On the bright side, I am currently working on enhancements to the way SD+ assigns devices during enslavement.

This will make it possible eventually to customize it the way you want, including removing leather armbinders altogether.

 

There is still a lot to be done before I get there though... the new system is working but I need to test it a lot.

A big step after that will be to add support for a json configuration file where you can assign the kind of device you want for each race that can enslave you (or assign custom devices for new races even).

 

Don't expect that configuration file anytime soon though - once the new system is in place, I will be using it to make more progress on the player starting scenarios in Stories.

 

(The new system will be released in a couple of weeks hopefully... minus the config file).

[Azurahawk]

You're still developing this mod right? Are you planning to make females perform cowgirl animations for male slavers or sticking with dildos?

[DeepBlueFrog]

You're still developing this mod right? Are you planning to make females perform cowgirl animations for male slavers or sticking with dildos?

 

I currently have 120 things on my to-do list for SD+ (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue).

To that, add 181 things to do for my other mods (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue).

Plus a list of ideas and notes I haven't put in Github yet.

 

For each of these things, it takes a few hours of research, coding and testing... plus the time I have to spend fixing other things that sometimes break when adding enhancements. I do this on my spare time (which can get in short supply) - that's about 2 or 3 hours tops a day on a good day.

 

You can do the math

 

Using cowgirl animations in SD+ is one of these first 120 things (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/issues/303) but it is currently a very low priority, so it will probably be a while before I get to that one.

 

I put my code on github so that other people can contribute to it. So far, I have received bug fixes from some people (many thanks to them) but I am always open to larger enhancements or code contributions, either in a forum post or directly in github.

[ShylokVakarian]

Well, maybe I don't give a shit about women in my game and don't WANT to install a female body replacer.  Have you ever thought about that?

[Moreldep]

Whenever I get enslaved my master is immediately dissatisfied with me and sells me via the simple slavery mod.

[Azurahawk]

 

You're still developing this mod right? Are you planning to make females perform cowgirl animations for male slavers or sticking with dildos?

 

I currently have 120 things on my to-do list for SD+ (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue).

To that, add 181 things to do for my other mods (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue).

Plus a list of ideas and notes I haven't put in Github yet.

 

For each of these things, it takes a few hours of research, coding and testing... plus the time I have to spend fixing other things that sometimes break when adding enhancements. I do this on my spare time (which can get in short supply) - that's about 2 or 3 hours tops a day on a good day.

 

You can do the math

 

Using cowgirl animations in SD+ is one of these first 120 things (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/issues/303) but it is currently a very low priority, so it will probably be a while before I get to that one.

 

I put my code on github so that other people can contribute to it. So far, I have received bug fixes from some people (many thanks to them) but I am always open to larger enhancements or code contributions, either in a forum post or directly in github.

 

If I was any better at coding, I could help. But sadly, I am no pro yet with C#

[DeepBlueFrog]

Well, maybe I don't give a shit about women in my game and don't WANT to install a female body replacer. Have you ever thought about that?

What does that have to do with SD+?

[ShylokVakarian]

 

Well, maybe I don't give a shit about women in my game and don't WANT to install a female body replacer. Have you ever thought about that?

What does that have to do with SD+?

 

 

>Want to use mod

>Body replacer required

>Only body replacers mentioned are purely for females

 

I don't know how you're not getting this.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Well, maybe I don't give a shit about women in my game and don't WANT to install a female body replacer. Have you ever thought about that?

What does that have to do with SD+?

 

 

>Want to use mod

>Body replacer required

>Only body replacers mentioned are purely for females

 

I don't know how you're not getting this.

 

 

Maybe because a custom body replacer is not a requirement anymore. CBBE or UNP are preferred, because there is an option to support them and reduce visual texture issues when you are infected by a spriggan. 

 

If you don't care about the texture glitch, a body replacer is not required.

 

I will update the download page to make that point more clear.

[darklight161]

Was wondering if anyone else came upon this issue:

 

My character keeps unequipping her weapons and playing the armbinder idle (hands tied behind her back) with no actual armbinder.  This started after I got enslaved (if I got the shackles removed somehow, it would still play).  However this has persisted even after I escaped and finished the Enslaved quest.  About every second or so my character will just spontaneously unequip and play the armbinder animation.  Nothing can fend off her furious intent to unequip.  She'll get off a horse to do it.  She'll stop mid-sex to do it.  She'll stop a kill animation to do it.  When she's been rocketed by a giant mid-flight her weapons will disappear.  Even if she's a werewolf I can hear the game furiously trying to unequip her claws (and somehow succeed, although every action reequips claws).

 

Nothing I've tried seems to fix the problem including.  In-game I've tried putting another armbinder on, going through the SD+ Enslavement quest again, going through another DD quest (Devious Cidhna) that uses armbinders, using console to play other Idles using SAE or PlayIdle commands, using ZAZ to change arm animation to something else, like yoke (will revert back).  Mod-wise, I've uninstalled SD+ properly (first using the uninstall option) and used save-game cleaner to clean up loose scripts and still the problem persists.  Even after uninstalling ZAZanimationPack and all Devious Devices mods, the problem still persists.

 

Thanks in advance for anyone who can help.

 

Papyrus log attached

Papyrus.1.log

[DeepBlueFrog]

Was wondering if anyone else came upon this issue:

 

My character keeps unequipping her weapons and playing the armbinder idle (hands tied behind her back) with no actual armbinder.  This started after I got enslaved (if I got the shackles removed somehow, it would still play).  However this has persisted even after I escaped and finished the Enslaved quest.  About every second or so my character will just spontaneously unequip and play the armbinder animation.  Nothing can fend off her furious intent to unequip.  She'll get off a horse to do it.  She'll stop mid-sex to do it.  She'll stop a kill animation to do it.  When she's been rocketed by a giant mid-flight her weapons will disappear.  Even if she's a werewolf I can hear the game furiously trying to unequip her claws (and somehow succeed, although every action reequips claws).

 

Nothing I've tried seems to fix the problem including.  In-game I've tried putting another armbinder on, going through the SD+ Enslavement quest again, going through another DD quest (Devious Cidhna) that uses armbinders, using console to play other Idles using SAE or PlayIdle commands, using ZAZ to change arm animation to something else, like yoke (will revert back).  Mod-wise, I've uninstalled SD+ properly (first using the uninstall option) and used save-game cleaner to clean up loose scripts and still the problem persists.  Even after uninstalling ZAZanimationPack and all Devious Devices mods, the problem still persists.

 

Thanks in advance for anyone who can help.

 

Papyrus log attached

 

Your cleanup seems to be working well. I don't see much traces of SD in this log.

My error messages usually start with [sD] or [_sd....] and there are none to be found here.

 

My bet would be 'slac'.... it keeps firing at repeated intervals and is seems to be missing something.

which mod is that?

[darklight161]

SLAC is Sexlab Aroused Creatures.  I don't think it would have much to do with armbinders.

 

After some more testing it seems that when the problem will disappear when I am in some sort of slavery quest from another mod (e.g. DaintySload from Devious Cidhna) but as soon as I finish the quest the problem resurfaces. 

[Content Consumer]

SLAC is Sexlab Aroused Creatures.  I don't think it would have much to do with armbinders.

 

After some more testing it seems that when the problem will disappear when I am in some sort of slavery quest from another mod (e.g. DaintySload from Devious Cidhna) but as soon as I finish the quest the problem resurfaces. 

 

An odd problem, but I seem to remember having the same problem about a year ago. IIRC it was a problem with how I had installed Devious Devices, or possibly something I did in the Devious Devices config menu. But I can't be certain about that...

Does it happen on a new game, or just the current one?

[ShylokVakarian]

 

 

 

Well, maybe I don't give a shit about women in my game and don't WANT to install a female body replacer. Have you ever thought about that?

What does that have to do with SD+?

 

 

>Want to use mod

>Body replacer required

>Only body replacers mentioned are purely for females

 

I don't know how you're not getting this.

 

 

Maybe because a custom body replacer is not a requirement anymore. CBBE or UNP are preferred, because there is an option to support them and reduce visual texture issues when you are infected by a spriggan. 

 

If you don't care about the texture glitch, a body replacer is not required.

 

I will update the download page to make that point more clear.

 

 

I apologize for my rudeness.

 

So, I have a problem.  For some reason, any time I try to go into Dreamworld, I get a CTD.  The Papyrus log is mostly unhelpful, giving me gibberish about mannequins (And I fear that it may mean there's an incompatibility with my favorite house mod).  I have tried it on a fresh save, to no avail.  Interpretation would be nice.

Papyrus.0.log

[DeepBlueFrog]

Weird... I can't download the log file. 

LL is giving me an error message about not having enough permissions to view it.

 

Crash on Dreamworld could be a skeleton issue.... or a conflict between mods doing things during sleep. 

 

Do you have Dangerous Nights for example?

[Content Consumer]

Yeah, I'm getting a "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" error too. So either both of us have been banned, or the site is experiencing an issue.

 

EDIT: Looks like attachments 282312 and above don't work.

EDIT: And now it works. ???

[ShylokVakarian]

Weird... I can't download the log file. 

LL is giving me an error message about not having enough permissions to view it.

 

Crash on Dreamworld could be a skeleton issue.... or a conflict between mods doing things during sleep. 

 

Do you have Dangerous Nights for example?

 

Nope, never heard of it.

 

Yeah, I'm getting a "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" error too. So either both of us have been banned, or the site is experiencing an issue.

 

EDIT: Looks like attachments 282312 and above don't work.

 

Could be that I screwed up.  Try now.

[darklight161]

 

SLAC is Sexlab Aroused Creatures.  I don't think it would have much to do with armbinders.

 

After some more testing it seems that when the problem will disappear when I am in some sort of slavery quest from another mod (e.g. DaintySload from Devious Cidhna) but as soon as I finish the quest the problem resurfaces. 

 

An odd problem, but I seem to remember having the same problem about a year ago. IIRC it was a problem with how I had installed Devious Devices, or possibly something I did in the Devious Devices config menu. But I can't be certain about that...

Does it happen on a new game, or just the current one?

 

 

Doesn't happen on a new game fortunately.  Do you happen to recall what you did to fix it?  I find it strange that it persisted even after I uninstalled DD.

 

Thanks.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Both Flora harvest and Mannequins are throwing too many errors to make your game stable... more importantly, you uninstalled devious devices? or maybe you are missing parts of devious devices.

 

You will have to reinstall it to get SD to work.

Dreamworld and SD+ in general will not work without devious devices.

[ShylokVakarian]

Both Flora harvest and Mannequins are throwing too many errors to make your game stable... more importantly, you uninstalled devious devices? or maybe you are missing parts of devious devices.

 

You will have to reinstall it to get SD to work.

Dreamworld and SD+ in general will not work without devious devices.

 

Yeah, I already figured that second thing out.  Tried reinstalling the Assets and it worked.

 

Sadly, I actually require flora harvest to run Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul, so I'm not getting rid of that any time soon.  The Mannequins, I figure might be a bug with Craftable Followers, which I don't like anyway. (The eyes look creepy as fuck)

 

EDIT: Nope.  Though it was a relatively seamless uninstall.  Good riddance.