Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

After upgrading to the new version my character was just enslaved and during the enslavement my master was killed.  So after the quest ended I went to an npc to have my arm-binder removed and nothing will remove it.  I persuaded 3 different nps to take it off, I paid an npc to take it off, I got a sharps drop for taking it off, and I even tried using the safe word debug in cursed loot to take the binder off.  Also the debug option in cursed loot didn't take off any of the devious items that were put on during the slavery.  I am not sure if this is an upgrading issue or a glitch.

 

That's cursed look respecting SD's items, just like I am now respecting cursed loot items. 

 

Is it a leather armbinder or iron cuffs?

 

My test character currently has a leather armbinder on.. I will test it out.

The iron cuffs should be working. I have tested that many times. 

[Alenin]

 

After upgrading to the new version my character was just enslaved and during the enslavement my master was killed.  So after the quest ended I went to an npc to have my arm-binder removed and nothing will remove it.  I persuaded 3 different nps to take it off, I paid an npc to take it off, I got a sharps drop for taking it off, and I even tried using the safe word debug in cursed loot to take the binder off.  Also the debug option in cursed loot didn't take off any of the devious items that were put on during the slavery.  I am not sure if this is an upgrading issue or a glitch.

 

That's cursed look respecting SD's items, just like I am now respecting cursed loot items. 

 

Is it a leather armbinder or iron cuffs?

 

My test character currently has a leather armbinder on.. I will test it out.

The iron cuffs should be working. I have tested that many times. 

 

 

It is a Red Ebonite arm-binder.  I had leg shackles and was able to get them off by paying a npc.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

After upgrading to the new version my character was just enslaved and during the enslavement my master was killed.  So after the quest ended I went to an npc to have my arm-binder removed and nothing will remove it.  I persuaded 3 different nps to take it off, I paid an npc to take it off, I got a sharps drop for taking it off, and I even tried using the safe word debug in cursed loot to take the binder off.  Also the debug option in cursed loot didn't take off any of the devious items that were put on during the slavery.  I am not sure if this is an upgrading issue or a glitch.

 

That's cursed look respecting SD's items, just like I am now respecting cursed loot items. 

 

Is it a leather armbinder or iron cuffs?

 

My test character currently has a leather armbinder on.. I will test it out.

The iron cuffs should be working. I have tested that many times. 

 

 

It is a Red Ebonite arm-binder.  I had leg shackles and was able to get them off by paying a npc.

 

 

 

That's what my character has... I will let you know when I test later tonight.

[boigod222]

Hey skyrim could you tell us of your priority options for DAYMOYL? E.g do you have defeat before this mod? And is there any way to perhaps begin the slavery even after defeat's scene?

[ForestElf]

I am running the latest version and so far so good. No CTD, although i am in Mistveil, so you never know... I wanted to ask one thing. I get multiple status updates in the same day. I guess this is intended to let the player know how things go. How often can someone use the "wait" function to jump a few hours? Or, how many hours is it adviceable to skip each time?

 

EDIT: I finished a 3-day enslavement after the Hired Thugs quest and chose to be freed without joining faction. However, i leather collar and "ebonite leg cuffs" remained. Is this normal? Other than that, this for me is the best version ever. Not a single CTD.

Yeah, bug. The "enslaved" quest remains active, as well as "payback is a bitch" and while i paid a blacksmith to remove the leg cuffs, he refuses to remove the collar, saying "and help a runaway slave?" So i am stuck with a leather collar...

 

EDIT 2: The "enslaved" quest somehow got disabled. I also went back to Mistwatch and...killed the former master, took the key and then the collar unlocked. The bandits weren't hostile (since i didn't join faction, shouldn't they be hostile?).

 

The "Payback is a bitch" quest seems stuck though. No quest marker and most important, it tells me to get my things back, but i already got the whole inventory back after the master released me.

 

Is there any way to flag the quest completed with "setstage" ? 

[CliftonJD]

I am running the latest version and so far so good. No CTD, although i am in Mistveil, so you never know... I wanted to ask one thing. I get multiple status updates in the same day. I guess this is intended to let the player know how things go. How often can someone use the "wait" function to jump a few hours? Or, how many hours is it adviceable to skip each time?

 

EDIT: I finished a 3-day enslavement after the Hired Thugs quest and chose to be freed without joining faction. However, i leather collar and "ebonite leg cuffs" remained. Is this normal? Other than that, this for me is the best version ever. Not a single CTD.

Yeah, bug. The "enslaved" quest remains active, as well as "payback is a bitch" and while i paid a blacksmith to remove the leg cuffs, he refuses to remove the collar, saying "and help a runaway slave?" So i am stuck with a leather collar...

 

EDIT 2: The "enslaved" quest somehow got disabled. I also went back to Mistwatch and...killed the former master, took the key and then the collar unlocked. The bandits weren't hostile (since i didn't join faction, shouldn't they be hostile?).

 

The "Payback is a bitch" quest seems stuck though. No quest marker and most important, it tells me to get my things back, but i already got the whole inventory back after the master released me.

 

Is there any way to flag the quest completed with "setstage" ? 

that's a death alternative quest - check its mcm for options, I think there's a reset player state that might help, not sure what else

[MyNameIsnt]

This is by far my favorite mod on loverslab. Amazing work.

 

I have noticed that wearing a collar and using the "I need a strong hand to guide me" dialog to a follower/NPC doesn't seem to want to work for me, even when I use the console to set their relationship rank to 3 or 4. Most of them say "Okay, Okay, you've talked me into it" or "How can I argue with that?", but it never triggers enslavement for my character.

 

Is there something I'm missing? I've looked into it but haven't found anyone with the same issue as me.

[ForestElf]

 

I am running the latest version and so far so good. No CTD, although i am in Mistveil, so you never know... I wanted to ask one thing. I get multiple status updates in the same day. I guess this is intended to let the player know how things go. How often can someone use the "wait" function to jump a few hours? Or, how many hours is it adviceable to skip each time?

 

EDIT: I finished a 3-day enslavement after the Hired Thugs quest and chose to be freed without joining faction. However, i leather collar and "ebonite leg cuffs" remained. Is this normal? Other than that, this for me is the best version ever. Not a single CTD.

Yeah, bug. The "enslaved" quest remains active, as well as "payback is a bitch" and while i paid a blacksmith to remove the leg cuffs, he refuses to remove the collar, saying "and help a runaway slave?" So i am stuck with a leather collar...

 

EDIT 2: The "enslaved" quest somehow got disabled. I also went back to Mistwatch and...killed the former master, took the key and then the collar unlocked. The bandits weren't hostile (since i didn't join faction, shouldn't they be hostile?).

 

The "Payback is a bitch" quest seems stuck though. No quest marker and most important, it tells me to get my things back, but i already got the whole inventory back after the master released me.

 

Is there any way to flag the quest completed with "setstage" ? 

that's a death alternative quest - check its mcm for options, I think there's a reset player state that might help, not sure what else

 

 

 

Thank you very much! Damn! I hate DA, but one has to live with it. 

 

- I also found out that it's normal to have the "enslaved" quest remain active for a while after release. Although this doesn't explain why i ended up with the cuffs and collar.

 

- I also had an instance where i didn't get all inventory back after master's death. Many potions and at least a shield were missing when i got the inventory back from the master's body. The story went like this. I lost a one vs one with the bandit chief at Bilegulch Mine by a hair. Simple Slavery triggers and i end up in Nightgate Inn and the master is a vampire. I don't know why but she starts attacking me. Then other NPCs in the inn attack her and kill her. I loot the body, get my inventory back, but like i said, several things are missing. Nothing critical though.  

 

EDIT: Resetting through DA didn't work and turns out "Payback's a bitch" is SD's quest. From the main description:

 

• "Payback's a Bitch" - If the player steals or pickpockets an item from a NPC that NPC may hire thugs for some revenge. These thugs will hunt the player down and enslave them. Bringing them back to the stolen item's owner.

 

So i practically have a bug, where the quest is stuck and although i got released, it expects me to "go get my stuff back".

 

I think the "Thugs Quest" should have an option to disable it just like the Spriggan has. Besides, it's really annoying having every few days hired thugs coming after you. Now i bypass the problem using a mod that makes guards attack thugs, but i have to figure a way to make the "Payback's a bitch" quest disappear from the active quests list.

[Lastbdsm]

Hello, wanna know if theres a way for sanguine to be female (since my character is male)?

I've been trying entering sanguine realm by sleeping 3 times. First time entering it sanguine is female, sadly its ctd.
Been playing normally doing quest, and now when I enter the realm sanguine is... sam? (not changing his form), and male.

[Mr. Sunshine]

Why SD+ replaces the Flame Atronach skeleton? So it should be?

I use XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended.

 

Sorry for my English.

[ForestElf]

Confirmed bug:

 

- After release through option not to join faction, collar and leg cuffs remain. This, despite the message "the collar releases its will" or something like that.

- Giving food to master, not always seem to give feedback (like "trust pool" rising or any comment).

- Often there is a message "luckily your hands remain free", while an armbinder is kept at place.

 

The first point is the most game breaking though.

 

Uncertain if bug:

- In Sanguine's realm, as soon as you enter, a flame atronach starts shooting fireballs to everyone, including Sanguine, who kills it.

[shinji72]

Confirmed bug:

 

- After release through option not to join faction, collar and leg cuffs remain. This, despite the message "the collar releases its will" or something like that.

- Giving food to master, not always seem to give feedback (like "trust pool" rising or any comment).

- Often there is a message "luckily your hands remain free", while an armbinder is kept at place.

 

The first point is the most game breaking though.

 

Uncertain if bug:

- In Sanguine's realm, as soon as you enter, a flame atronach starts shooting fireballs to everyone, including Sanguine, who kills it.

 

Not sure if the first is a bug. It always happened this way.. You're released in the sense you're no more a slave (enslaved faction 0) but you keep (or better, they keep on you) the collar. You will have to find a way to remove it by yourself.

[ForestElf]

Not sure if the first is a bug. It always happened this way.. You're released in the sense you're no more a slave (enslaved faction 0) but you keep (or better, they keep on you) the collar. You will have to find a way to remove it by yourself.

 

 

 

 

The only thing i 've found by searching is an old post by "Galgat", saying:

 

"I bet that is a hang( take everything off), do the Console clik your character, and type the showinventory, then use page up page down to look for and object may have no name, that has worn at the end.

 

and use "player.removeitem XXXXXXXX 1 "the xx's are the number of the item you found"

 

that should get rid of it."

 

Unfortunately, it doesn't unequip.

 

The blacksmith already refused to remove it, also 2 guards. So i don't know whether it's a bug and thus i am wasting my time trying to find someone who will remove it or not, like you say.

 

I also have the "payback's a bitch" still active, can't do anything about it.

[ForestElf]

Can anyone please tell me if this progression sounds "normal"? Because i 've had CTD instances when DA should trigger SD, but this sounds odd. Before exiting Bleak Falls Barrow, i encounter one last Draugr (after killing the overlord), who kills my character. Transportation to Sanguine's dream world, where Sanguine appears as the new master. After a while, Sanguine teleports, screen goes black and the point of Bleak falls barrow where i was killed is loaded. So now i am at Bleak Falls Barrow with Sanguine as master. Which is a bit problematic, as there is no food in there, so i don't know what i am going to do for food... The draugr that killed me, attacked Sanguine while he was having fun with my character and Sanguine killed him (so that's good news). So i am just before the exit of Bleak falls, with Sanguine as master... How i am supposed to achieve level 2 to ask for release, is beyond my imagination. Killing him doesn't seem an option either.

 

Also, my Sanguine has black underwear instead of penis. I have SOS and works on normal men, but apparently not on Sanguine...

[shinji72]

It might take a while to find someone willing or able to remove the collar. If you want to use console try to type help "master key" (or "master's key"). The additem the key. It should unlock everything.

 

Getting Sanguine as an owner, sometimes very rarely happens... It can lead to very bizarre situations though.

 

Remember you can untick each SD+ scenario from DA. So for example you can untick the "sanguine real" on death scenario... (and also all other DA scenario... ). May be useful if you're experiencing too much chaos.

[ForestElf]

It might take a while to find someone willing or able to remove the collar. If you want to use console try to type help "master key" (or "master's key"). The additem the key. It should unlock everything.

 

Getting Sanguine as an owner, sometimes very rarely happens... It can lead to very bizarre situations though.

 

Remember you can untick each SD+ scenario from DA. So for example you can untick the "sanguine real" on death scenario... (and also all other DA scenario... ). May be useful if you're experiencing too much chaos.

 

Oh, so the collar is actually removable. Ok, good to know, thanks.

 

So in Death Alternative i must only have "SD enslavement" active? This explains how this happened. I had everything ticked, except from Spriggan. Thanks for the tip, i will try it later. I will have to reload an older save, since i don't see going anywhere with Sanguine insdide the Barrow...

 

Thanks for the help!

[shinji72]

It not that you have to. It's more of a preference. Let's say you untick all other DA scenarios. With SD+ if you killed by someone who can enslaved, you will get enslaved. In the other cases (ie burned by a dragon, drowning, frozen to death, falling) you will resurrect within the sanguine realm. If you don't want that for whatever reasons, just untick sanguine realm. You will still go there from time to time while sleeping... but not as much.

[Mez558]

Is it intentional that your owner becomes essential and therefore unkillable?

Or is this an effect from another mod?

[CliftonJD]

 

 

I am running the latest version and so far so good. No CTD, although i am in Mistveil, so you never know... I wanted to ask one thing. I get multiple status updates in the same day. I guess this is intended to let the player know how things go. How often can someone use the "wait" function to jump a few hours? Or, how many hours is it adviceable to skip each time?

 

EDIT: I finished a 3-day enslavement after the Hired Thugs quest and chose to be freed without joining faction. However, i leather collar and "ebonite leg cuffs" remained. Is this normal? Other than that, this for me is the best version ever. Not a single CTD.

Yeah, bug. The "enslaved" quest remains active, as well as "payback is a bitch" and while i paid a blacksmith to remove the leg cuffs, he refuses to remove the collar, saying "and help a runaway slave?" So i am stuck with a leather collar...

 

EDIT 2: The "enslaved" quest somehow got disabled. I also went back to Mistwatch and...killed the former master, took the key and then the collar unlocked. The bandits weren't hostile (since i didn't join faction, shouldn't they be hostile?).

 

The "Payback is a bitch" quest seems stuck though. No quest marker and most important, it tells me to get my things back, but i already got the whole inventory back after the master released me.

 

Is there any way to flag the quest completed with "setstage" ? 

that's a death alternative quest - check its mcm for options, I think there's a reset player state that might help, not sure what else

 

 

 

Thank you very much! Damn! I hate DA, but one has to live with it. 

 

- I also found out that it's normal to have the "enslaved" quest remain active for a while after release. Although this doesn't explain why i ended up with the cuffs and collar.

 

- I also had an instance where i didn't get all inventory back after master's death. Many potions and at least a shield were missing when i got the inventory back from the master's body. The story went like this. I lost a one vs one with the bandit chief at Bilegulch Mine by a hair. Simple Slavery triggers and i end up in Nightgate Inn and the master is a vampire. I don't know why but she starts attacking me. Then other NPCs in the inn attack her and kill her. I loot the body, get my inventory back, but like i said, several things are missing. Nothing critical though.  

 

EDIT: Resetting through DA didn't work and turns out "Payback's a bitch" is SD's quest. From the main description:

 

• "Payback's a Bitch" - If the player steals or pickpockets an item from a NPC that NPC may hire thugs for some revenge. These thugs will hunt the player down and enslave them. Bringing them back to the stolen item's owner.

 

So i practically have a bug, where the quest is stuck and although i got released, it expects me to "go get my stuff back".

 

I think the "Thugs Quest" should have an option to disable it just like the Spriggan has. Besides, it's really annoying having every few days hired thugs coming after you. Now i bypass the problem using a mod that makes guards attack thugs, but i have to figure a way to make the "Payback's a bitch" quest disappear from the active quests list.

 

master becoming hostile at you is a bug we'd have to see the log to fix, unknown if its an issue at your end or a possible bug with the vampire used by ss

check sanguine's realm for any missing items from master's body, they should be in the "slave chest"

 

Why SD+ replaces the Flame Atronach skeleton? So it should be?

I use XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended.

 

Sorry for my English.

 

that shouldn't be, I just looked for the files in sd, not there

that means if it is there, it only exists in the esp for those who don't have it and having xp32 installed will use xp32 by default

xp32 comes with the proper skeleton files, if you're having issues with the flame atronach you need to reinstall those files - you missed it during install

 

 

 

 

Can anyone please tell me if this progression sounds "normal"? Because i 've had CTD instances when DA should trigger SD, but this sounds odd. Before exiting Bleak Falls Barrow, i encounter one last Draugr (after killing the overlord), who kills my character. Transportation to Sanguine's dream world, where Sanguine appears as the new master. After a while, Sanguine teleports, screen goes black and the point of Bleak falls barrow where i was killed is loaded. So now i am at Bleak Falls Barrow with Sanguine as master. Which is a bit problematic, as there is no food in there, so i don't know what i am going to do for food... The draugr that killed me, attacked Sanguine while he was having fun with my character and Sanguine killed him (so that's good news). So i am just before the exit of Bleak falls, with Sanguine as master... How i am supposed to achieve level 2 to ask for release, is beyond my imagination. Killing him doesn't seem an option either.

 

Also, my Sanguine has black underwear instead of penis. I have SOS and works on normal men, but apparently not on Sanguine...

sounds like the above glitched quests might have interfered there, it was previously mentioned by skyrimill that shouldn't happen

 

 

It might take a while to find someone willing or able to remove the collar. If you want to use console try to type help "master key" (or "master's key"). The additem the key. It should unlock everything.

 

Getting Sanguine as an owner, sometimes very rarely happens... It can lead to very bizarre situations though.

 

Remember you can untick each SD+ scenario from DA. So for example you can untick the "sanguine real" on death scenario... (and also all other DA scenario... ). May be useful if you're experiencing too much chaos.

 

Oh, so the collar is actually removable. Ok, good to know, thanks.

 

So in Death Alternative i must only have "SD enslavement" active? This explains how this happened. I had everything ticked, except from Spriggan. Thanks for the tip, i will try it later. I will have to reload an older save, since i don't see going anywhere with Sanguine insdide the Barrow...

 

Thanks for the help!

 

 

yes, if you were to kill the owner rather than ask for release you'd find the key mentioned above

without that there aren't very many blacksmiths who will help

memory serves either riften blacksmith or alvor would do it and the other would refuse, but can't remember which

Is it intentional that your owner becomes essential and therefore unkillable?

Or is this an effect from another mod?

that'd be the npc or mod that handles the npc or in the case of followers it'd be the follower mods used - aela the huntress and farkas are immortal by default until certain quests are completed...

my most frequent escape method has been to kill my owner

[Mez558]

 

that'd be the npc or mod that handles the npc or in the case of followers it'd be the follower mods used - aela the huntress and farkas are immortal by default until certain quests are completed...

my most frequent escape method has been to kill my owner

 

 

In that case I think the issue might lie with Defeat or DA as I've seen Rapists then become unkillable.

 

That was normally mine, too but recently has ended up as reload :/

 

[ForestElf]

It not that you have to. It's more of a preference. Let's say you untick all other DA scenarios. With SD+ if you killed by someone who can enslaved, you will get enslaved. In the other cases (ie burned by a dragon, drowning, frozen to death, falling) you will resurrect within the sanguine realm. If you don't want that for whatever reasons, just untick sanguine realm. You will still go there from time to time while sleeping... but not as much.

 

Thank you! I also tried your solution with console (help master's key) and it worked!

 

 

 

 

 

master becoming hostile at you is a bug we'd have to see the log to fix, unknown if its an issue at your end or a possible bug with the vampire used by ss

 

check sanguine's realm for any missing items from master's body, they should be in the "slave chest"

 

sounds like the above glitched quests might have interfered there, it was previously mentioned by skyrimill that shouldn't happen

 

yes, if you were to kill the owner rather than ask for release you'd find the key mentioned above

without that there aren't very many blacksmiths who will help

memory serves either riften blacksmith or alvor would do it and the other would refuse, but can't remember which

 

 

Thank you! So they are only specific blacksmiths! This would explain why Lod was constantly refusing to help...

 

 

[laurencius]

I've been using the latest SD+ without any noticeable problem. However, when I open the console I notice that I get a constant notice that says:

 

NOTICE: ValidateActor(sanguinesminion) -- FALSE -- they are not loaded

 

This notice is spammed constantly. What do I need to do?

 

[McChuckles]

after sex scenes while enslaved the screen goes blue. using latest version of sexlab and sd+

[primalsplit]

How does this mod work with SexLab Defeat and Devious Defeat exactly? Do they work well?

[Guest]

How does this mod work with SexLab Defeat and Devious Defeat exactly? Do they work well?

 

This mod doesn't really work with Defeat if Defeat were to trigger post blackout (Bleedout) in DA. But it works if you set the Defeats own threshold's on going down (getting defeated)