DeepBlueFrog Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 Hi! So... enjoying the mod but been having an odd issue... so far what I did is.. I got enslaved by falmer in Shimmermist, then escaped, had d the dream that took me to Sanguine's Grove... and well, ever since I cannot get enslaved again, when I die, I am sent to the grove. Also tried pressing K but that just initiates a sex scene... so, no idea, how to get a second enslavement. :/ The default surrender key is now '\'... not 'K'. To get enslaved more easily, go to Death Alternative's menu and increase the health buffer to 10 or 20%. Also give yourself a large hit buffer to 600%. That should help triggering the enslavement sequence.
webb71 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I have an issue that just popped up recently. For some reason when I get enslaved I am unable to talk to the owner. They just say something like "what, what do you want now". I have SL Dialogues installed as well. When I am able to talk to them it just says "..." Edit: I should mention that the dialogue works flawlessly with falmer, it's only with humans that it has randomly started doing this.
anolbee Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Vanilla Sanguine once appeared in Dreamworld before 'A Night To Remember' quest. He has a vanilla dremoran gray head but red naked body.. Male and Female Sanguines from your mod has no problem - red heads and red naked body, but vanilla Sanguine changed weird. Any idea What i was wrong?
naberyll Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Hi! So... enjoying the mod but been having an odd issue... so far what I did is.. I got enslaved by falmer in Shimmermist, then escaped, had d the dream that took me to Sanguine's Grove... and well, ever since I cannot get enslaved again, when I die, I am sent to the grove. Also tried pressing K but that just initiates a sex scene... so, no idea, how to get a second enslavement. :/ The default surrender key is now '\'... not 'K'. To get enslaved more easily, go to Death Alternative's menu and increase the health buffer to 10 or 20%. Also give yourself a large hit buffer to 600%. That should help triggering the enslavement sequence. Thanks for reply, so 'k' is the key defined for surrender in the mod keys.... I tried \, it does nothing. As for Health does it mean increasing the 'Perc. Heath Threshhold'? And 'Perc. Health Large Hit'? Increased 'Perc. Heath Threshhold' to 20 and 'Perc. Health Large Hit' to 600... was still send to the grove upon death
shinji72 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 There is no journal update when you pick up the weapons. The quest works with any Ancient Nord axe and sword... I placed those two at the end of Bleak Falls Barrow for people who have replacers for those weapons (hopefully, the formIDs are the same). The armor is just a freebie If you are still stuck, you can jump to quest stage 140 in the console. I found it! I found the BUG! When you've done your test, you had a pickaxe with you, right? Have you tried talking with Advor without a pickaxe in the inventory? I did not have the new dialogue after the Bleak FalI barrows. But I noticed I got the "where to find a pickaxe" dialogue still there, from the previous quest. Showing up with Advor again, this time with a pickaxe in the inventory, corrected the issue and correctly ended the quest. It seems every time I've not a pickaxe with me, the "pickaxe" dialogue overrides all the rest...
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 There is no journal update when you pick up the weapons. The quest works with any Ancient Nord axe and sword... I placed those two at the end of Bleak Falls Barrow for people who have replacers for those weapons (hopefully, the formIDs are the same). The armor is just a freebie If you are still stuck, you can jump to quest stage 140 in the console. I found it! I found the BUG! When you've done your test, you had a pickaxe with you, right? Have you tried talking with Advor without a pickaxe in the inventory? I did not have the new dialogue after the Bleak FalI barrows. But I noticed I got the "where to find a pickaxe" dialogue still there, from the previous quest. Showing up with Advor again, this time with a pickaxe in the inventory, corrected the issue and correctly ended the quest. It seems every time I've not a pickaxe with me, the "pickaxe" dialogue overrides all the rest... Thanks for the detective work! As usual, the bug was somewhere in the quest where I was not looking. I think I fixed it for the next version.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Only read the changelog. Creature enslavement? That's 1 of my favorite things in PSE. Now this is interesting, I hope nobody complained about devious devices or zaz gears on them. Somebody made that complaint on Submit before. So, any plan for the animal quest? PSE got the goblin breeding pet & puppy breeding. I'm not into the entire breeding thing but the goblin was really REALLY slave-ey.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 Only read the changelog. Creature enslavement? That's 1 of my favorite things in PSE. Now this is interesting, I hope nobody complained about devious devices or zaz gears on them. Somebody made that complaint on Submit before. So, any plan for the animal quest? PSE got the goblin breeding pet & puppy breeding. I'm not into the entire breeding thing but the goblin was really REALLY slave-ey. My current plans are to finish the mechanics of creature enslavement with Falmers and then extend it to Draugr, Giants and Trolls at least. My main concern right now is the lack of things to do other than eating and sex.
Sacremas Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 The others are fine but Elder Scrolls trolls are just animals, they can even be calmed by the same shout and detects as animals for all purposes, it would be like being enslaved to a gorilla. I'm just not seeing them being able to do anything but do the "mate-feed-flee-fight?" routine really, either they're going to rape you, or they'll eat you, or they'll leave you alone. Probably rape then eat you.
Content Consumer Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 The others are fine but Elder Scrolls trolls are just animals, they can even be calmed by the same shout and detects as animals for all purposes, it would be like being enslaved to a gorilla. I'm just not seeing them being able to do anything but do the "mate-feed-flee-fight?" routine really, either they're going to rape you, or they'll eat you, or they'll leave you alone. Probably rape then eat you. That sounds... intriguing, actually. Seriously, though, I have to agree. I have one or two ideas about what Falmer or Giants would require of you as a slave (rieklings are even easier!), but I've been scratching my head about the trolls and draugr. With Draugr, you could maybe do something like force the player to kneel before a dragon priest and the priest drains your soul (possibly stealing dragon souls) once a day... or if your smithing skill is high enough (dialogues?) they'll set you to improving their weapons, converting standard items to honed (which would make assaulting the nord ruin in the future a bit harder)... I dunno.
Sacremas Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Yeah at least draugr use items and use magic and have some sort of soceity (even if it's all about serve the dragon/pirests), but trolls? Not so much, maybe have you fetch food for it? Care for it's youngs? Are there even young troll models available? I don't know how doable it is, but how about the draugr torture you (beat and gang rape) and prepare you, ended with a dragon priest being spawned in and placing some special spell on you, and at that point it's something like the Flowering Spriggan, except you are now turning into a draugr and you will die and only way to prevent it is to find a dragon and offer yourself to it, at which point the dragon will have it's way with you, remove the curse, and then maye you're enslaved to the dragon instead? Traditionally dragons care the most about gold and phat lewt, so servitude to a dragon might involve it sending you out to get get gold and the like, maybe something like radiant quests to raid various treasure chests for specific items "Get the *insert 200+ value item here* from *dungeon* for your overlord!" Magic with maybe the dragon eating part of your soul or something like that causing a weakness if you take too long in returning to it may be a leash, or the dragon may even have special forms of Devious Devices to place on it's servants. Either way killing that dragon will be the only way to get free from it.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 If I had infinite time on my hands, it would be really fun turning the player into a minion sort of like in the Overlord video game. Once chained to your new master, you would have to set up traps, collect loot, fight adventurers, light torches, train creatures etc.. That would requires a lot of scripted scenes, probably new models and a load of testing. For now, I have to content myself with more generic tasks applicable to multiple creatures.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Only read the changelog. Creature enslavement? That's 1 of my favorite things in PSE. Now this is interesting, I hope nobody complained about devious devices or zaz gears on them. Somebody made that complaint on Submit before. So, any plan for the animal quest? PSE got the goblin breeding pet & puppy breeding. I'm not into the entire breeding thing but the goblin was really REALLY slave-ey. My current plans are to finish the mechanics of creature enslavement with Falmers and then extend it to Draugr, Giants and Trolls at least. My main concern right now is the lack of things to do other than eating and sex. Take your time, I'd love to see my chars. getting abused by giants & trolls. Falmers still a great fun, though. For the goblin in PSE, there's not much to it at all, really. The goblin in PSE is just that they will put your char in a pen & the goblins will let your char out to gang rape her, it's scheduled, I can't remember how many times a day. So eating & sex for creatures is enough for me, I'd say having a good setting to go with it will be great. Doesn't need to be a pen, I don't think giants or trolls are that smart. But I see lots of dead bodies & skeleton remains, maybe use that as a decoration for the trolls? Make it like "If you don't get out in time you'll end up like these corpses". If you want my opinions, the falmers should do something with some of the torture racks & dwemer toys while the draugr should be something about soulgems, magic or altars.
Sethala Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 While I like the idea of this mod, I've found the punishment too severe and limiting for my liking, so I've decided to leave it for now and perhaps play with it again later. ...Or at least, I'd like to. Unfortunately, disabling the mod has the strange side effect of completely breaking every character's animation. Turning it back on and using the "uninstall" option in the menu likewise breaks everything. Even an entirely new character is unable to show any animation (I can move, but I just glide around on the floor like some kind of possessed statue). Any idea if there's a fix for this other than reinstalling all of Skyrim?
Content Consumer Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah at least draugr use items and use magic and have some sort of soceity (even if it's all about serve the dragon/pirests), but trolls? Not so much, maybe have you fetch food for it? Care for it's youngs? Are there even young troll models available? I don't know how doable it is, but how about the draugr torture you (beat and gang rape) and prepare you, ended with a dragon priest being spawned in and placing some special spell on you, and at that point it's something like the Flowering Spriggan, except you are now turning into a draugr and you will die and only way to prevent it is to find a dragon and offer yourself to it, at which point the dragon will have it's way with you, remove the curse, and then maye you're enslaved to the dragon instead? Traditionally dragons care the most about gold and phat lewt, so servitude to a dragon might involve it sending you out to get get gold and the like, maybe something like radiant quests to raid various treasure chests for specific items "Get the *insert 200+ value item here* from *dungeon* for your overlord!" Magic with maybe the dragon eating part of your soul or something like that causing a weakness if you take too long in returning to it may be a leash, or the dragon may even have special forms of Devious Devices to place on it's servants. Either way killing that dragon will be the only way to get free from it. I think that in Skyrim the dragons tend to care more about domination, it seems... about ruling underlings. Servitude for servitude's sake seems up their alley. I wonder if a texture similar to the drainblood/drainheart/drainspell weapons could be used for draconic (or daedric, or aedric) devious devices. I'm kind of getting to like this whole draugr slave thing... maybe after enough soul drains, your skin texture would start turning pale/grey, your eyes would turn a burning blue, and you'd gain some powers or something. Why, there's even some good armor that might fit the bill!
Sethala Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 DId you run FNIS after uninstalling it? Oh. Hah, I've been using it all the time when I install new mods just in case, didn't think it would be needed for uninstalling them too. Works fine now, thanks.
shadowster Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 About the creature enslavement, has anyone ever played the sexout breeder mod for fallout 3? The quest with Fenris as the Alpha is one of my favorite mods. If creature enslavement could be like that, that would be amazing
Sacremas Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Untamed sort of handles breeding with animals if that's what you mean, I have both a giant child and a frostbite spider spawn in my home from that.
Blackness blackness is... Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 i need some help with SD+. i get a message with debug telling me that i am already enslaved to myself. i don't knows why or how but it has to stop. this support page is literally my last hope of ever finding a master in skyrim!
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 i need some help with SD+. i get a message with debug telling me that i am already enslaved to myself. i don't knows why or how but it has to stop. this support page is literally my last hope of ever finding a master in skyrim! You will have to provide more details about that one... this is the first time I hear about someone enslaving themselves. Did you use a mod to start the game already enslaved? Did you get enslaved during a fight or another scene? Can you try to stop enslavement using the Safeword option in the menu?
Blackness blackness is... Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 1. yes its completely new to me too. 2. no its a fresh new game, i do have deviously enslaved installed but its disabled. 3. no fights or scenes. nope 4. didn't try that yet, let me check .update: the safeword is unavailable. same is with the status. its like i am enslaved and not at the same time. and all i get after attempting again is this message: slaver is player. what is happening??
Sacremas Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I think you need to post your load order at this point, because something is clearly up.
Guest Long John Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 @skyrimll - Is the default mesh still the same default mesh as shown in the SD+ MCM (Using CBBE unchecked)? If it is the official devious devices have now switched to classic Dimonized UNP (on DDa 2.9.0 and higher). Wrong meshes can cause CTDs.
Blackness blackness is... Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I think you need to post your load order at this point, because something is clearly up. no it can't be a load order issue. i use wrye bash as the mod manager and all the mods are perfectly sorted.save file dark pink/purple colored proof. also it is a test playthrough that i made specificaly for sd+ testing (won't be using it on my primary saves,way too risky as previously stated by the mod creator). and all i changed recently before it started happening is some simple body textures. i am so confused by all this.. O_o could body modifications really cause SD+ malfunctioning? P.S english is not my first language, please forgive any confusing writing mistakes. its difficult
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