Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[thomastm]

well, i tried the latest version(reverted to a save before going to sanguine's grove).  This time i wasn't able to talk through the spectral gag(which was ok it was probably a glitch the first time)  So using a debug command on zaz i was able to see the timer.  

 

This time it was a reasonable number lol.  Well anyways a few minutes later there's a spell effect on me, and the shimmer disappears.  The restraints however stay on.  i tried waiting for days and days and days and nothing further happened.  I'm guessing the stuff was supposed to be unequipped when my character shimmer effect disappeared?  Or am I missing something? 

 

i also have this problem, when i enter the dreamworld i wasn't able to talk & the sanguine's devies didnt remove after waiting 3-4 days.

[crudo]

skyrimll,

I have a couple of other requestsl

 

2. On the topic of improving master-slave communication, can you make the master behave more randomly; such as:

• randomly forcing skooma without asking
• randomly having sex, again, without asking.
• randomly changing appearance of slave... etc etc

Its only logical to assume that once pc is a sex slave to him. He would wish to do whatever he wants, without the PC having to ask her owner for sex all the time...

 

This is my biggest issue with the mod.   It's very passive, nothing happens without the player initiating an event.  Which is good in the respect that the player can control the story but it takes away the immersion a mod like this should have.

 

I would especially like to agree with the forced skooma, I use the addictive skooma mod and it would be good to see it kick in under this scenario.

 

Someone mentioned the dismissing the follower when they are captured and I would like to add my support for that idea too.  For me it's because I use AFT?/follower tweaks, and if I get near the follower and draw my weapon they automatically appear behind me if they are currently following me.

 

Finally, from the request department.  My absolute favorite part of the mod is when the thugs track you down.  Is it possible to have them hunt the PC even if they aren't out committing crimes?

 

Other than all the above quests I added SD+ to a new game, not the most current but the one just before.  I'm having problems with the spectral restraints and the DD restraints both.  Right now, after killing my owner and getting the key, I was released from my leg cuffs but the collar stayed on.  I went to sleep and Sanguine put his spectral stuff on me.  I traveled to Whiterun and neither Danica, the Kynerath priestess or the court wizard gave me any options to remove the devices.  Right now I'm into my second day wearing the devices and they haven't worn off yet.  I would like to try to update to the newest version but I believe I have to wait until the spectral items are gone.  Is that accurrate?

 

I don't want to sound like a complainer.  The mod is much nicer, events seem to work much smoother and Sanguine is more entertaining.

[shadow866]

A silly question thats problaby been answered a few times

Would it be safe to just update from v2.04 to 2.04.1 or does it require a fresh save?

Keep up the awesome updates but dont burn your self out

Thanks

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

skyrimll,

I have a couple of other requestsl

 

2. On the topic of improving master-slave communication, can you make the master behave more randomly; such as:

• randomly forcing skooma without asking
• randomly having sex, again, without asking.
• randomly changing appearance of slave... etc etc

Its only logical to assume that once pc is a sex slave to him. He would wish to do whatever he wants, without the PC having to ask her owner for sex all the time...

 

This is my biggest issue with the mod.   It's very passive, nothing happens without the player initiating an event.  Which is good in the respect that the player can control the story but it takes away the immersion a mod like this should have.

 

I would especially like to agree with the forced skooma, I use the addictive skooma mod and it would be good to see it kick in under this scenario.

 

Someone mentioned the dismissing the follower when they are captured and I would like to add my support for that idea too.  For me it's because I use AFT?/follower tweaks, and if I get near the follower and draw my weapon they automatically appear behind me if they are currently following me.

 

Finally, from the request department.  My absolute favorite part of the mod is when the thugs track you down.  Is it possible to have them hunt the PC even if they aren't out committing crimes?

 

Other than all the above quests I added SD+ to a new game, not the most current but the one just before.  I'm having problems with the spectral restraints and the DD restraints both.  Right now, after killing my owner and getting the key, I was released from my leg cuffs but the collar stayed on.  I went to sleep and Sanguine put his spectral stuff on me.  I traveled to Whiterun and neither Danica, the Kynerath priestess or the court wizard gave me any options to remove the devices.  Right now I'm into my second day wearing the devices and they haven't worn off yet.  I would like to try to update to the newest version but I believe I have to wait until the spectral items are gone.  Is that accurrate?

 

I don't want to sound like a complainer.  The mod is much nicer, events seem to work much smoother and Sanguine is more entertaining.

 

 

I fully agree and I would rather work on that aspect instead of figuring out why the spectral devices refuse to unequip after the effect wears off (which is what I am trying to fix right now).

[thomastm]

 

 

skyrimll,

I have a couple of other requestsl

 

2. On the topic of improving master-slave communication, can you make the master behave more randomly; such as:

• randomly forcing skooma without asking
• randomly having sex, again, without asking.
• randomly changing appearance of slave... etc etc

Its only logical to assume that once pc is a sex slave to him. He would wish to do whatever he wants, without the PC having to ask her owner for sex all the time...

 

This is my biggest issue with the mod.   It's very passive, nothing happens without the player initiating an event.  Which is good in the respect that the player can control the story but it takes away the immersion a mod like this should have.

 

I would especially like to agree with the forced skooma, I use the addictive skooma mod and it would be good to see it kick in under this scenario.

 

Someone mentioned the dismissing the follower when they are captured and I would like to add my support for that idea too.  For me it's because I use AFT?/follower tweaks, and if I get near the follower and draw my weapon they automatically appear behind me if they are currently following me.

 

Finally, from the request department.  My absolute favorite part of the mod is when the thugs track you down.  Is it possible to have them hunt the PC even if they aren't out committing crimes?

 

Other than all the above quests I added SD+ to a new game, not the most current but the one just before.  I'm having problems with the spectral restraints and the DD restraints both.  Right now, after killing my owner and getting the key, I was released from my leg cuffs but the collar stayed on.  I went to sleep and Sanguine put his spectral stuff on me.  I traveled to Whiterun and neither Danica, the Kynerath priestess or the court wizard gave me any options to remove the devices.  Right now I'm into my second day wearing the devices and they haven't worn off yet.  I would like to try to update to the newest version but I believe I have to wait until the spectral items are gone.  Is that accurrate?

 

I don't want to sound like a complainer.  The mod is much nicer, events seem to work much smoother and Sanguine is more entertaining.

 

 

I fully agree and I would rather work on that aspect instead of figuring out why the spectral devices refuse to unequip after the effect wears off (which is what I am trying to fix right now).

 

 

nice, still waiting for the falmer quest haha.

[NicoleDragoness]

I found a couple of issues just after using version 2.0.4.1 after some time but the second one was present also into the previous versions:

 

1. Even if I set the gender as "opposite only", some custom NPCs (females) still have the naked comment - followed by submit/resist message box.

   This happens, for example, with Sofia Custom Voiced Follower and with ALL the females from the Ningheim Followers addon.

 

2. When the submit/resist message box appears, no matter in this case if from male or from female, my Enchanted (by myself) Dragonbone Sword looses ALL its charge.

   I'm a bit bored to be forced to refill her charge with a lot of soulgems. This happens also with my Enchanted (myself) Dragonbone Dagger but ONLY if I wear it in the right hand.

   This DOESN'T HAPPEN with other enchanted weapons, even if custom, like the Insanity Sorrow Dragonbane.

   I didi'n tried still with all the enchanted weapons (vanilla or custom) I have into my various storages. Will report later.

[icladel]

I'm having some issues pop up now. SD was running fine before and all of a sudden, things just aren't working as intended. 

 

For example, I can disable every option except for enslavement. However, no matter what situation my character will be transported to the dreamworld and enslavement will not happen.

Other times, I will be transported to the dreamworld and then the Enslavement quest will begin, with the Bandit also being transported to the dreamworld.

 

I have attempted every different combination of outcomes in Death Alternative but I always end up in the dreamworld.

 

Is this a known issue? I have never had this before. 

 

SL mods are just the bare requirements for SD+. No Submit or Defeat.

 

Thanks

 

EDIT: Ok seems like I get moved to dreamworld after bleedout and without blackout. There is no option related to dreamworld in the DA Bleedout menu. I really dont know whats going on. Anyone else experienced this? Thanks

[makico]

I join a faction but not know what faction is ... think a vampire enmy ... there are any way to know or have to load a old save ?

 

... player.removeallfactions not work ... and draug is my best friend now ... i not know you guys got a solution

 

 

think will be good add a little something to see which faction you are allied or your  savegame become broke using sd if you have no solution

[Buffmutti]

I found a solution for all my problems with SD 2.04.1 i think. First i installed DD-Restrained, its helpful, but this is not the solution and then i updated zaz Animation Pack from 5.5.3 to 5.5.5 and suddenly everything is fine again (only SL Squirt has a strange behavior now, since my PC wears Sanguines Collar she can't stop to squirt. Will see if that stops after removing the Collar)

 

Next thing which i will test is the behavior of a group of NPC if i'm enslaved by one of them. Want to know if they still become aggressive every 6 hours.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I found a solution for all my problems with SD 2.04.1 i think. First i installed DD-Restrained, its helpful, but this is not the solution and then i updated zaz Animation Pack from 5.5.3 to 5.5.5 and suddenly everything is fine again (only SL Squirt has a strange behavior now, since my PC wears Sanguines Collar she can't stop to squirt. Will see if that stops after removing the Collar)

 

Next thing which i will test is the behavior of a group of NPC if i'm enslaved by one of them. Want to know if they still become aggressive every 6 hours.

 

Good find. I will update the requirements.

[pb2eb]

So I'm having a couple issues that I haven't seen mentioned that are making me wonder if I didn't install properly because it looks like I'm missing some content.  I installed all the required mods for this using NMM, though for the Devious Devices I had to export the Core and UNPB files and repackage them in 7z so NMM could process it.  Quests, sex animations and punishment scenes seem to be working fine.  I get the typically ability to offer sex when my character's bindings are removed and the random submissions when arousal is high and both play through fine.  I seem to be missing things in two places though.

 

1. When my character dances for her master after the dance is done and I get the message telling me to prepare to please the onlookers but nothing ever happens after this.

 

2. When my character tries to sell herself to someone who isn't her master she will the money if she successful and the top left will say that it is loading animation 0 (0) or something to effect and again nothing happens.

 

Are these normal occurrences for SD and if they aren't is it a problem with how I installed SD or is likely one of the required mods that I messed up.  If anyone could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.

[druidregalia]

i know you said you're working on the spectral devices, and I really appreciate that!

 

But in the mean time is there a console command I can use to unlock the devices in the meantime?

 

I can use player.unequip all to at least get my controls and voice back and the devices will appear to be off(unless i try to drop them from my inventory in which case they come back on), but then the mod thinks I still have the restraints on in that I, nor npcs can apply other restraints to me(in those slots at least)

 

Because I'll be honest, outside of this issue the mod is just about perfect and its a hell of alot of fun to see what kind of trouble my little Sarah can get herself into!  But this is a big issue, because I pretty much need to go the grove to recover my characters items after she escapes her latest mistress.

[kiwkkiwk2]

Is this working with Defeat?

[darkfender666]

I have this issue

the previous version worked perfectly.

 

This won t start any sexlab animation.

 

Punishments etc works fine, but sexlab calls (after dance or when enslaved) never triggers.

[Gameplayer]

Yes it works with Defeat,

 

You have to have ZAZ 5.5.5,

 

Death Alternative is at 5.02 I think.

 

DDIntergration

 

 

[Karma199696]

hi...

 

i updared the mod to the latest version and i'm confused... either i'm missing something or the whole fun of the mod is gone...

now when i get to Dreamwold i'm cuffed and gagged with the new spectral (or ethereal ?) devices... i found them cute until i found out that they prevented me from talking/interacting with anybody... now i can't talk with Sanguine, so i can't even ask him to let me go... i stood there besides him for a few minutes to see if anything changed or happened... nothing. he kept warming up hands by the fire ignoring me... he didn't even have sex with me... when i decided i got bored enough i used the chain to get back to "real" world but that creates 2 "problems"...

 

1) i get back always to where i was when abducted... while i loved the feature of being sent to some random place...

2) i'm still restrained and can't interact with anybody... can't ask for helping me out of the devices, i can't tell anymore that i need a strong hand to guide me.... i can't do anything...

 

now i read in another post that the devices will vanish after 10 - 50 minutes of REAL time ??? you mean i must spend most of my playing time just looking at my PC standing there helpless (hoping that nobody will kill her in the meanwhile) ?

 

i rarely can play more then 30 minutes in a raw and never more then 1 hour... i can't spend all of that time just doing nothing and waiting for the devices to vanish by themselves...

i hope i misunderstood something and that things are not like that or i will be forced to remove SD+ and that would be sad since i love this mode and i've been using it since the preceding (now unsupported) version... so please, tell me i'm wrong and that there is something i'm missing (as it often happens... )

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------

 

ps: since i was in Riften, i tried going to the court mage, but i couldn't interact with her either... after more or less 10 minutes (real time) there was a

      kind of flash but the devices remained and i still couldn't interact with anybody...

[thomastm]

Yes it works with Defeat,

 

You have to have ZAZ 5.5.5,

 

Death Alternative is at 5.02 I think.

 

DDIntergration

 

i have all this mods intall, but i still cant get defeat and sd to work, after enslave i cant have sex & cant talk after visit dreamworld. defeat active but sex wont happen. what am i doing wrong? 

[Buffmutti]

hi...

 

i updared the mod to the latest version and i'm confused... either i'm missing something or the whole fun of the mod is gone...

now when i get to Dreamwold i'm cuffed and gagged with the new spectral (or ethereal ?) devices... i found them cute until i found out that they prevented me from talking/interacting with anybody... now i can't talk with Sanguine, so i can't even ask him to let me go... i stood there besides him for a few minutes to see if anything changed or happened... nothing. he kept warming up hands by the fire ignoring me... he didn't even have sex with me... when i decided i got bored enough i used the chain to get back to "real" world but that creates 2 "problems"...

 

1) i get back always to where i was when abducted... while i loved the feature of being sent to some random place...

2) i'm still restrained and can't interact with anybody... can't ask for helping me out of the devices, i can't tell anymore that i need a strong hand to guide me.... i can't do anything...

 

now i read in another post that the devices will vanish after 10 - 50 minutes of REAL time ??? you mean i must spend most of my playing time just looking at my PC standing there helpless (hoping that nobody will kill her in the meanwhile) ?

 

i rarely can play more then 30 minutes in a raw and never more then 1 hour... i can't spend all of that time just doing nothing and waiting for the devices to vanish by themselves...

i hope i misunderstood something and that things are not like that or i will be forced to remove SD+ and that would be sad since i love this mode and i've been using it since the preceding (now unsupported) version... so please, tell me i'm wrong and that there is something i'm missing (as it often happens... )

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------

 

ps: since i was in Riften, i tried going to the court mage, but i couldn't interact with her either... after more or less 10 minutes (real time) there was a

      kind of flash but the devices remained and i still couldn't interact with anybody...

 

I guess you have installed SD 2.04.1. Now you have to check if you use ZAZ 5.5.5 (this will solve many problems) and http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32992-dd-restrainedrar/ would help too, because then you can ask people for help in case that you are gagged (some people will help you, other people will rape you....and some might even add "missing" stuff xD....but most of the time the people will help you).

[thomastm]

does this mod still work with estrus chaurus like the older version?

[Gameplayer]

Ya the thing is that a lot of people returning don't have 5.5.5 ZAZ.

 

They have 5.5.3 ZAZ

 

ZAZ got an update this summer and you need it.

 

For those with Sanguine not speaking I think you might need DDrestrained in your LO as well, Skymll has been working with that guy to make them compatible together...Not sure if its a requirement but I have it and not getting those issues with talking to a master while gaged.

 

@ThomMastm

 

Well are sexlab animations running at all via any mod that activates them?  Might want to run FNIS again.

There's still some hoops to jump through,

DDI and ZAZ need to be set up too, you have to register their animations in each mod, plus save and reload game.

 

Right now both Defeat and SD+ place the same weight priority on Bleedout so you might make some edits to that in Death Alternative.  Honestly though I don't think I will use Defeat much longer.

 

Cause well if they could defeat you, and wanted to rape you...well they would likely tie you down and enslave you.  As it is now Defeat and SD+ kinda feel like they provide awefully similar things.

 

In my game though I have SD+ set up to handle blackouts only.

[Mister X]

does this mod still work with estrus chaurus like the older version?

 

With the actual one, yes

BUT Estrus for Skyrim got updated to 1.10 with a new API mentioned, so I think, there soon will come an update for Estrus Chaurus (hopefully).

[thomastm]

Ya the thing is that a lot of people returning don't have 5.5.5 ZAZ.

 

They have 5.5.3 ZAZ

 

ZAZ got an update this summer and you need it.

 

For those with Sanguine not speaking I think you might need DDrestrained in your LO as well, Skymll has been working with that guy to make them compatible together...Not sure if its a requirement but I have it and not getting those issues with talking to a master while gaged.

 

@ThomMastm

 

Well are sexlab animations running at all via any mod that activates them?  Might want to run FNIS again.

There's still some hoops to jump through,

DDI and ZAZ need to be set up too, you have to register their animations in each mod, plus save and reload game.

 

Right now both Defeat and SD+ place the same weight priority on Bleedout so you might make some edits to that in Death Alternative.  Honestly though I don't think I will use Defeat much longer.

 

Cause well if they could defeat you, and wanted to rape you...well they would likely tie you down and enslave you.  As it is now Defeat and SD+ kinda feel like they provide awefully similar things.

 

In my game though I have SD+ set up to handle blackouts only.

 

DDrestrained which version? i intall 0.10.0 and my game crash when start new game, well some of us still love defeat for the threesome\foursome sex if sd+ have that build in, that would nice.

[Mister X]

 

DDrestrained which version? i intall 0.10.0 and my game crash when start new game, well some of us still love defeat for the threesome\foursome sex if sd+ have that build in, that would nice.

 

I have 0.10.0 installed, it works perfectly fine ...

Defeat works, too, look at the PDF provided in the SD+ Downloads section, there is an explanation how to set up a proper correlation.

You just have to look for the settings in the updated Defeat menu, but the basic setup still is possible.

[thomastm]

 

does this mod still work with estrus chaurus like the older version?

 

With the actual one, yes

BUT Estrus for Skyrim got updated to 1.10 with a new API mentioned, so I think, there soon will come an update for Estrus Chaurus (hopefully).

 

 

so it will work with sd+ lastes version?

[Karma199696]

 

hi...

 

i updared the mod to the latest version and i'm confused... either i'm missing something or the whole fun of the mod is gone...

now when i get to Dreamwold i'm cuffed and gagged with the new spectral (or ethereal ?) devices... i found them cute until i found out that they prevented me from talking/interacting with anybody... now i can't talk with Sanguine, so i can't even ask him to let me go... i stood there besides him for a few minutes to see if anything changed or happened... nothing. he kept warming up hands by the fire ignoring me... he didn't even have sex with me... when i decided i got bored enough i used the chain to get back to "real" world but that creates 2 "problems"...

 

1) i get back always to where i was when abducted... while i loved the feature of being sent to some random place...

2) i'm still restrained and can't interact with anybody... can't ask for helping me out of the devices, i can't tell anymore that i need a strong hand to guide me.... i can't do anything...

 

now i read in another post that the devices will vanish after 10 - 50 minutes of REAL time ??? you mean i must spend most of my playing time just looking at my PC standing there helpless (hoping that nobody will kill her in the meanwhile) ?

 

i rarely can play more then 30 minutes in a raw and never more then 1 hour... i can't spend all of that time just doing nothing and waiting for the devices to vanish by themselves...

i hope i misunderstood something and that things are not like that or i will be forced to remove SD+ and that would be sad since i love this mode and i've been using it since the preceding (now unsupported) version... so please, tell me i'm wrong and that there is something i'm missing (as it often happens... )

 

thanks.

 

---------------------------

 

ps: since i was in Riften, i tried going to the court mage, but i couldn't interact with her either... after more or less 10 minutes (real time) there was a

      kind of flash but the devices remained and i still couldn't interact with anybody...

 

I guess you have installed SD 2.04.1. Now you have to check if you use ZAZ 5.5.5 (this will solve many problems) and http://www.loverslab.com/topic/32992-dd-restrainedrar/ would help too, because then you can ask people for help in case that you are gagged (some people will help you, other people will rape you....and some might even add "missing" stuff xD....but most of the time the people will help you).

 

 

i already had the correct version of ZAZ animations... but hadn't DD_Restrained (it is neither in the Requirements nor in the suggested mods) anyway now that i installed it i could again interact with peole... i mainly got ignored or raped (Riften people morality must be quite low ) but after 10 or 12 tries i got my hands freed from Balimor and then removed the gag myself since he failed

 

thanks.