SMP Head HPH or UBE

[belegost]

Amazing. It actually "just works (tm)" right out of the box on my potato, which was a total surprise. However, I'm not sure if it's going to stay since I already foresee running into performance issues down the line. But hell, its is running, at least for now. You sir/madam/Apache helicopter, are a fucking genius.

 

Anyway, if one wanted just the botox sliders (which I find simply amazing), how would one go about it?

Edited May 9, 2025 by belegost

[Predator-RJ]

8 hours ago, belegost said:

Amazing. It actually "just works (tm)" right out of the box on my potato, which was a total surprise. However, I'm not sure if it's going to stay since I already foresee running into performance issues down the line. But hell, its is running, at least for now. You sir/madam/Apache helicopter, are a fucking genius.

 

Anyway, if one wanted just the botox sliders (which I find simply amazing), how would one go about it?

Hi, thanks! well about perf, if want to do like some others and make the whole skyrim reagion have smp head, yeah you will explode the smp XD, other wise, character, some npcs and followers, you wont have a impact at all, it is just some bones, not like a hair mod that is 90+ bones, i can say just leave it there will not hurt your game at all, now about the sliders, if you only want the sliders, well, install the mod as if you want the sliders, and dont let my mod replace the HP head nif, this way you will still have the original non SMP head, with my sliders : )

[cmblue]

This looks great, love the idea of Botox sliders! I thought I'd install this and HPH for the first time, unfortunately I flat out cannot get high poly head to work - as soon as I select face part 3 (which HPH should load on) it CTD's. I'm using this and High poly head 1.4, think everything is installed correctly and have done a ton of load order changes to try and fix it. 

 

Bit of a head scratcher, every other face part works. Are there any known incompatibilities for HPH?

[killorkilled]

hey friends  im trrying to do  make it work with npcs and followers in game this mod but when i try to follow the video tutorial  in video i do it everything right according to the video but when click the shape section in outfit studio and then click select transfer weights  it gives me error like this " The vertex count of the reference and chosen shape is not the same !"

 

 how can i fix this and continue doing the tutorial guys if anyone can help me that would be great thanks everyone.

[Predator-RJ]

8 hours ago, cmblue said:

This looks great, love the idea of Botox sliders! I thought I'd install this and HPH for the first time, unfortunately I flat out cannot get high poly head to work - as soon as I select face part 3 (which HPH should load on) it CTD's. I'm using this and High poly head 1.4, think everything is installed correctly and have done a ton of load order changes to try and fix it. 

 

Bit of a head scratcher, every other face part works. Are there any known incompatibilities for HPH?

Hi, well lets go by parts, you cant get the default HPH mod to work, whithout this one installed on top ? dont try in custom races if the case, now if you trying with this mod installed, did you build it with a old version of bodyslide? because as i described old bodyslide will build a file that is not meant to be build and thus causing ctd

[Predator-RJ]

4 hours ago, killorkilled said:

hey friends  im trrying to do  make it work with npcs and followers in game this mod but when i try to follow the video tutorial  in video i do it everything right according to the video but when click the shape section in outfit studio and then click select transfer weights  it gives me error like this " The vertex count of the reference and chosen shape is not the same !"

 

 how can i fix this and continue doing the tutorial guys if anyone can help me that would be great thanks everyone.

Hi, well this msg is because the head you are trying to copy is not a HPH head or you didnt select the correct part, it ihas to be head mesh, it will only transfer the weights if the head is also, another HPH head, other head types, is more complicated and requires some skill in weight paint and fixing.

[killorkilled]

4 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, well this msg is because the head you are trying to copy is not a HPH head or you didnt select the correct part, it ihas to be head mesh, it will only transfer the weights if the head is also, another HPH head, other head types, is more complicated and requires some skill in weight paint and fixing.

also i did try to do what tutorial want me to do in some other npc replacers and it worked without error but  this time mouth is not opening only works for player on my end at least.

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, killorkilled said:

also i did try to do what tutorial want me to do in some other npc replacers and it worked without error but  this time mouth is not opening only works for player on my end at least.

im not fully understanding, you say it worked with no issues, then in a supposed new one you doing it is not working, because if you got the error in OS it did not transfer any weights, as i said it will only work to another HPH head, no default head, not cotr, no UBE, it will only transfer the way shown in the video to another HPH head, and now you saying about opening mouth, well you saying about SMP collision, or the whole mouth not opening ? because they are diferent things, and the second one is other mods dependent not this one.

[Goblets]

@Predator-RJHow likely is it that this awesome mod will come to ube?

[Predator-RJ]

4 hours ago, Goblets said:

@Predator-RJHow likely is it that this awesome mod will come to ube?

Hi thanks! look in the end of the mod page description ;), other person did port, i might do it properly one day for UBE, but for now, no date.

[cmblue]

18 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, well lets go by parts, you cant get the default HPH mod to work, whithout this one installed on top ? dont try in custom races if the case, now if you trying with this mod installed, did you build it with a old version of bodyslide? because as i described old bodyslide will build a file that is not meant to be build and thus causing ctd

So just in case, I've reinstalled bodyslide, racemenu and SKSE as well as HPH and this mod. I've started a empty profile on MO2 with just the basics and these mods running... and it still CTD's as soon as I try to equip high poly head. It's a guaranteed instant CTD.

 

Your suggestion was correct and I was running the previous build of bodyslide. I've updated it now, but still CTD on selecting HPH in game.

 

HPH crashes without this mod so I don't think your one is the issue thankfully. There must be an incompatibility somewhere but I have absolutely no idea where. 

 

I'm wondering if there's something left over in my overwrite file that's causing the ctd - any ideas on where to check?

[Predator-RJ]

6 hours ago, cmblue said:

So just in case, I've reinstalled bodyslide, racemenu and SKSE as well as HPH and this mod. I've started a empty profile on MO2 with just the basics and these mods running... and it still CTD's as soon as I try to equip high poly head. It's a guaranteed instant CTD.

 

Your suggestion was correct and I was running the previous build of bodyslide. I've updated it now, but still CTD on selecting HPH in game.

 

HPH crashes without this mod so I don't think your one is the issue thankfully. There must be an incompatibility somewhere but I have absolutely no idea where. 

 

I'm wondering if there's something left over in my overwrite file that's causing the ctd - any ideas on where to check?

Hi, well you probably have the TRI file then, you will need to delete it, should be "Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Meshes\KL\High Poly Head\FemaleHead.tri".... Delete the TRI file, and resinstall the HPH mod

[MarcusHalberstram]

Are there any steps of updating this file? I was on 1.0.65 and it was working fine. But when I update it to current 0.21, the SMP stops. I don't know why this is happening because it's just a simple nif file replacement, but the mouth no longer jiggles or has any SMP on it despite having ran SMP reset and MFG reset . Nothing worked. and I'm on Normal "USE" and yes I'm on MO2. Is there any steps I'm missing to updating this mod on a pre-existing save file? 

[Predator-RJ]

3 minutes ago, MarcusHalberstram said:

Are there any steps of updating this file? I was on 1.0.65 and it was working fine. But when I update it to current 0.21, the SMP stops. I don't know why this is happening because it's just a simple nif file replacement, but the mouth no longer jiggles or has any SMP on it despite having ran SMP reset and MFG reset . Nothing worked. and I'm on Normal "USE" and yes I'm on MO2. Is there any steps I'm missing to updating this mod on a pre-existing save file? 

Hi, with the latest update i completely changed the bones structure, so if you had a follower\npc made with the old head, you will need to make it again, or stay with the old version, if not this case, shouldnt be any problem in just unistalling the latest and installing the new onem for you main character, since the game will "auto" update the head nif, but i have seen some games act strange, so you can try to reaload your preset, cycle the head back to default, then HPH, and load preset, or sculpt again, and you can try to save whithout the mod, and then install the mod and load again..... and yeah, it is a lot, but all from previous posts as people said.

[MarcusHalberstram]

49 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, with the latest update i completely changed the bones structure, so if you had a follower\npc made with the old head, you will need to make it again, or stay with the old version, if not this case, shouldnt be any problem in just unistalling the latest and installing the new onem for you main character, since the game will "auto" update the head nif, but i have seen some games act strange, so you can try to reaload your preset, cycle the head back to default, then HPH, and load preset, or sculpt again, and you can try to save whithout the mod, and then install the mod and load again..... and yeah, it is a lot, but all from previous posts as people said.

Big thanks. Yeah, doing this helps. 

[cmblue]

16 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, well you probably have the TRI file then, you will need to delete it, should be "Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Meshes\KL\High Poly Head\FemaleHead.tri".... Delete the TRI file, and resinstall the HPH mod

Really good of you to walk me through, I managed to load the head for the first time - I'll play around with it, unfortunately I likely wont have time till next weekend but will make sure to let you know how it goes. Thank you for taking the time to do so I was completely lost trying to figure it out, you predators are alright!

[AureumCustos]

Okay mod is working fine but i have a small issue when ever SGO4 the integration mod does a [InfluenceRenew] update on the actor during oral sex the smp physics get reset and broken again. which means that id have to spam SMP reset to keep it working properly is there a way to get this to be patched potentially?

[Predator-RJ]

7 hours ago, AureumCustos said:

Okay mod is working fine but i have a small issue when ever SGO4 the integration mod does a [InfluenceRenew] update on the actor during oral sex the smp physics get reset and broken again. which means that id have to spam SMP reset to keep it working properly is there a way to get this to be patched potentially?

Hi, i dont know, smp problems as described where old and root causes in SMP itself, so not much i can do here.

[Tyrns]

Can anyone create ostim equivalent of smp reset script? Great mod btw

[dayzer1996]

Amazing Mod👏, Can you share your character body and face presets, they look damn good 😅

[Predator-RJ]

On 5/20/2025 at 5:47 AM, Tyrns said:

Can anyone create ostim equivalent of smp reset script? Great mod btw

Hi thanks! the plugin DLL on the begning of desciption should work for anything.

Edited May 21, 2025 by Predator-RJ

[Predator-RJ]

4 hours ago, dayzer1996 said:

Amazing Mod👏, Can you share your character body and face presets, they look damn good 😅

Hi, thanks a lot! body is BHUNP not 3BA, and face unfortunately are personal sorry.

[BiggityBoggity]

It seems like if you have something equipped to hairslot 31, the smp for the mod doesn't seem to work. Is there some sort of way around it?

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, BiggityBoggity said:

It seems like if you have something equipped to hairslot 31, the smp for the mod doesn't seem to work. Is there some sort of way around it?

Hi, in FSMP - MCM menu there is a option to disable wigs SMP when hair is equiped since the Head was not suposed at all to have SMP on its own, this option bugs out and deactive the head SMP instead, so just disable it and should be good!

[minosaminamo]

Has anyone figured out how to make it work using the Racial Skin Variance mod with the RSV - High Poly Head Patch? Without it, there's an issue with the neck skin.