SMP Head HPH or UBE

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, TELETENTA said:

I did all that but still no smp function, do you think i should create the head in bodyslider? and where in the load order does this mod go?

Hi, well strange, can be other mods messing around with SMP, maybe Ostim, or similar, people have problems, lots of problems with the O-stim things, as for Load order should be replecing the mods asked, so higi priority on them.

[Predator-RJ]

1 hour ago, belegost said:

Just popping in to say everything still works flawlessly. Did I already say you're a genius? I might have.

 

But you're a fucking genius.

Hi, thanks a lot! great tha it worked!

[TELETENTA]

46 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, well strange, can be other mods messing around with SMP, maybe Ostim, or similar, people have problems, lots of problems with the O-stim things, as for Load order should be replecing the mods asked, so higi priority on them.

yeah also can this mod work if i have cbpc installed? i can switch to full smp with hotkey in game but does having cbpc installed affect  this mod?

[Predator-RJ]

2 hours ago, TELETENTA said:

yeah also can this mod work if i have cbpc installed? i can switch to full smp with hotkey in game but does having cbpc installed affect  this mod?

Yes no problems with CBPC, this mod is outside the togle to CBPC or SMP, and will always be SMP, even if you are using CBPC so dont need to worry in this part, look for other mods managing SMP, and so on, your problem is for this side.

 

[ErosOH]

for some reason, whenever I start a scene using the mouth, the upper lip works pretty much as expected, but the bottom lip starting freaking out and either stretches out way too far or starts clipping into the dih. Any ideas why?

Edited June 16, 2025 by ErosOH

[Predator-RJ]

3 hours ago, ErosOH said:

for some reason, whenever I start a scene using the mouth, the upper lip works pretty much as expected, but the bottom lip starting freaking out and either stretches out way too far or starts clipping into the dih. Any ideas why?

Hi, i assume this is not Sexlab, so the reset plugin will not work mostly, so do de reset command manually to fix the smp bug.

[lynnepar]

Hello! I was wondering if you might consider creating a compatibility patch for your mod and the High Poly Head neck fix mod（High Poly Head Bone Weight Fix at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community） ? Currently, when both mods are installed, they overwrite each other and cause functionality to break. I’d really appreciate it if you could look into this—thank you so much for your time and consideration!

[Predator-RJ]

48 minutes ago, lynnepar said:

Hello! I was wondering if you might consider creating a compatibility patch for your mod and the High Poly Head neck fix mod（High Poly Head Bone Weight Fix at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community） ? Currently, when both mods are installed, they overwrite each other and cause functionality to break. I’d really appreciate it if you could look into this—thank you so much for your time and consideration!

Hi, no need to, since i more or less did the same, since there is "throat" bones, so it is alredy a edited area ; ) with more smooth bone weight given the new bones in the area.

[lynnepar]

2 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, no need to, since i more or less did the same, since there is "throat" bones, so it is alredy a edited area ; ) with more smooth bone weight given the new bones in the area.
嗨，不需要，因为我或多或少做了同样的事情，因为有“喉咙”骨头，所以它已经是一个编辑过的区域；）由于该区域有新的骨头，所以骨头重量更平滑。

Thanks for the quick reply! I had no idea you'd already fixed this – nice one! Haha

[Omnishade]

I've installed the patches uploaded in the thread and the mouth get stretched too much with ABC. Is this normal and is there a way to fix it?

 

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Edit: SMP reset kinda fixes it, but the collision with the lips could be slightly weaker. It depends on how perfect you can make it or not, but it would be cool if the lips were actually touching the cock instead of leaving a gap.

Edited June 19, 2025 by Omnishade

[Predator-RJ]

26 minutes ago, Omnishade said:

I've installed the patches uploaded in the thread and the mouth get stretched too much with ABC. Is this normal and is there a way to fix it?

 

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Edit: SMP reset kinda fixes it, but the collision with the lips could be slightly weaker. It depends on how perfect you can make it or not, but it would be cool if the lips were actually touching the cock instead of leaving a gap.

Hi, the head itself has a very, very low "collision margin" about  0.1, it was 0.05/0.01 but then the throat does not work very good, usually the other part SMP is the one with a large margin, so you can reduce the margin in the creature a little, like if it is 0.3 put 0.1 too. 

[Omnishade]

10 hours ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, the head itself has a very, very low "collision margin" about  0.1, it was 0.05/0.01 but then the throat does not work very good, usually the other part SMP is the one with a large margin, so you can reduce the margin in the creature a little, like if it is 0.3 put 0.1 too. 

 

Which node should I change?

 

# Collider Nodes

#Riekling Base, 2~5
[RD 2]
0,-0.2,0,2 & 8,0.5,0,1.7
[RD 3]
0,-0.2,0,1.9
[RD 4]
0,-0.2,0,1.7
[RD 5]
0,-0.3,0,1.5

[Head Tongue 1]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 2]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 3]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 4]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 5]
0,0,0,1.2

[Beelzebub123]

Dear author, can you please tell me how I can convert this to LE? If possible, of course.

[Predator-RJ]

3 hours ago, Omnishade said:

 

Which node should I change?

 

# Collider Nodes

#Riekling Base, 2~5
[RD 2]
0,-0.2,0,2 & 8,0.5,0,1.7
[RD 3]
0,-0.2,0,1.9
[RD 4]
0,-0.2,0,1.7
[RD 5]
0,-0.3,0,1.5

[Head Tongue 1]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 2]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 3]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 4]
0,0,0,1.2
[Head Tongue 5]
0,0,0,1.2

Hi, this is CBPC i believe, you need the SMP one, and just decrease the margin as i said.

[Predator-RJ]

52 minutes ago, Beelzebub123 said:

Dear author, can you please tell me how I can convert this to LE? If possible, of course.

Hi, i think if you run it in cathedral assests optimizer, and make a esp it will work, but not sure, dont know if the head smp will work at all in LE

[Dorabella]

3 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, i think if you run it in cathedral assests optimizer, and make a esp it will work, but not sure, dont know if the head smp will work at all in LE

 

3 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Dear author, can you please tell me how I can convert this to LE? If possible, of course.

With SSENifOptimizer , it comes even better

 

SSE NIF Optimizer Setting as in screen 

Spoiler

 

Extrat mod Predator HPH SMP , Launch SSENIfOptimizer, Browse,import folder HPH SMP, click on Optimize  and it's done

If you want to use a mod manager, unzip and upload it .

Otherwise, copy/paste into Skyrim data, activate the plugin

[Beelzebub123]

56 minutes ago, Predator-RJ said:

Hi, i think if you run it in cathedral assests optimizer, and make a esp it will work, but not sure, dont know if the head smp will work at all in LE

I don't get sliders in RM. Do I need to do something with the TRI file?

[Beelzebub123]

48 minutes ago, Dorabella said:

 

With SSENifOptimizer , it comes even better

 

SSE NIF Optimizer Setting as in screen 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Extrat mod Predator HPH SMP , Launch SSENIfOptimizer, Browse,import folder HPH SMP, click on Optimize  and it's done

If you want to use a mod manager, unzip and upload it .

Otherwise, copy/paste into Skyrim data, activate the plugin

I don't get sliders in RM. Do I need to do something with the TRI file?

[Dorabella]

15 minutes ago, Beelzebub123 said:

I don't get sliders in RM. Do I need to do something with the TRI file?

Did you install it with the modmanager?

I used it on LE and it was working just fine. Have you tried a new game?

[Beelzebub123]

16 minutes ago, Dorabella said:

Did you install it with the modmanager?

I used it on LE and it was working just fine. Have you tried a new game?

Yes, MO. I have save in started room in Alternate respective 

[Dorabella]

Navigate to the Skyrim Data\meshes\Actors\Character\facegenmorphs\[Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp folder. You should find the Sliders folder, and two ini file

 

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If they should not be there( probably, MO's fault ) , from the previously extracted and converted mod, open the RC folder,copy/drop all ( interface folder, meshes folder, esp) into Skyrim data, active plugin

 

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[AureumCustos]

Could anyone make a patch or plugin that makes it so when SGO makes a player update a script runs that does smp reset like the other plugin? Cause as of right now using this mod with SGO makes the mouth physics break when SGO scans the player . Which i love this mod and SGO so i wanna find a way to use them both.

[Predator-RJ]

7 hours ago, Dorabella said:

 

With SSENifOptimizer , it comes even better

 

SSE NIF Optimizer Setting as in screen 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Extrat mod Predator HPH SMP , Launch SSENIfOptimizer, Browse,import folder HPH SMP, click on Optimize  and it's done

If you want to use a mod manager, unzip and upload it .

Otherwise, copy/paste into Skyrim data, activate the plugin

Thats great then! Awesome, the plugin i would convert it, or make a new one just to be sure, since it has the 1.71 header, it is a simple thing in there just to MO2 and vortex dont disable a "blank" plugin as they did before, so i added a TexSet in it.

[Beelzebub123]

On 6/19/2025 at 11:16 PM, Dorabella said:

Navigate to the Skyrim Data\meshes\Actors\Character\facegenmorphs\[Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp folder. You should find the Sliders folder, and two ini file

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

If they should not be there( probably, MO's fault ) , from the previously extracted and converted mod, open the RC folder,copy/drop all ( interface folder, meshes folder, esp) into Skyrim data, active plugin

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I check all of your recommendations. Unfortunately, sliders are not in my RaceMenu. And I noticed that jiggles is not working. Can this be fixed through conversion or won't it work? (Should I change the head itself in the character creation menu?)

[Beelzebub123]

On 6/19/2025 at 11:16 PM, Dorabella said:

Navigate to the Skyrim Data\meshes\Actors\Character\facegenmorphs\[Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp folder. You should find the Sliders folder, and two ini file

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

If they should not be there( probably, MO's fault ) , from the previously extracted and converted mod, open the RC folder,copy/drop all ( interface folder, meshes folder, esp) into Skyrim data, active plugin

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Can you please describe the entire path for installing and proper operation of the mod? Maybe I missed something. (Do I understand correctly that instead of SMP for SE in LE you just need HDT Physics Extensions)?

Edited June 21, 2025 by Beelzebub123