RamRod29 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I'm having a problem with the thalmor event. After Elenwen leaves the guard to tie you up and drop you off in her room. The scene just freezes, all I do is stand there, cuffed no harness and the other guard patrolling around. Is there anyway I can fix that?
Veladarius Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 I'm having a problem with the thalmor event. After Elenwen leaves the guard to tie you up and drop you off in her room. The scene just freezes, all I do is stand there, cuffed no harness and the other guard patrolling around. Is there anyway I can fix that? At that point it is taking your inventory and putting it into a container. The command can slow things down if you have a lot of items or if there are a lot of other scripts running.
Josephine Loire Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I'm having a problem with Thalmor Quest. I show up at the Embassy but Elenwyr is nowhere around. When I go for the gate I lose control of my character and guard shows up with sword unsheated but does nothing. I turned off Combat AI but the only differnece is that guard keeps his sword holstered. I tried to use reset options but nothing helps. I also tried to seek hel;p at this topic but it's too long to read it all and there was no match found with words "Thalmor" or "Elenwyr" that would be helpful Anty ideas how i can overcome this? Having the same issue, without an horse. And it's kinda of weird because the first time i did this quest, it worked perfectly. I guess one of the mod i own is conflicting, probably. But, i could speak with him, the problem come a little later, when he wants to check the letter from the Master. Welp, he does nothing, and i tried to leave it open for almost 30 min. Doooon't know why. xD
Veladarius Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 I'm having a problem with Thalmor Quest. I show up at the Embassy but Elenwyr is nowhere around. When I go for the gate I lose control of my character and guard shows up with sword unsheated but does nothing. I turned off Combat AI but the only differnece is that guard keeps his sword holstered. I tried to use reset options but nothing helps. I also tried to seek hel;p at this topic but it's too long to read it all and there was no match found with words "Thalmor" or "Elenwyr" that would be helpful Anty ideas how i can overcome this? Having the same issue, without an horse. And it's kinda of weird because the first time i did this quest, it worked perfectly. I guess one of the mod i own is conflicting, probably. But, i could speak with him, the problem come a little later, when he wants to check the letter from the Master. Welp, he does nothing, and i tried to leave it open for almost 30 min. Doooon't know why. xD The only thing I can think of is that he is just outside the force greet distance for some reason. You can try either enabling the controls, moving towards him and disabling them again or select him in the console and use 'moveto player' to move him to you. It may also be the issue when removing the player's inventory in the entry way.
fred200 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I hate asking for a concession for a different mod - but I won't let that stop me. Is there anything that can be done with the navmesh around the Captured Dreams estate? Sexlab Sex Slaves (highly recommended) routes one of their scenes down the road in front of Captured Dreams. These NPCs now invariably get hung up on the Captured Dreams wall. They can be retrieved through the console "moveto player", but it would be nicer if default road pathing avoided the estate. And if you have not tried that mod - you are missing a good one.
Veladarius Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 I believe I have found the issue with npc's not wanting to use the road in front of the shop. Apparently changing the navmesh for one cell requires finalizing not only that cell but every cell that touches it. So far this seems to have taken care of the issues though npc's still like wandering behind the shop. As for the road itself, I did not change the navmesh for it at all.
Josephine Loire Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I'm having a problem with Thalmor Quest. I show up at the Embassy but Elenwyr is nowhere around. When I go for the gate I lose control of my character and guard shows up with sword unsheated but does nothing. I turned off Combat AI but the only differnece is that guard keeps his sword holstered. I tried to use reset options but nothing helps. I also tried to seek hel;p at this topic but it's too long to read it all and there was no match found with words "Thalmor" or "Elenwyr" that would be helpful Anty ideas how i can overcome this? Having the same issue, without an horse. And it's kinda of weird because the first time i did this quest, it worked perfectly. I guess one of the mod i own is conflicting, probably. But, i could speak with him, the problem come a little later, when he wants to check the letter from the Master. Welp, he does nothing, and i tried to leave it open for almost 30 min. Doooon't know why. xD The only thing I can think of is that he is just outside the force greet distance for some reason. You can try either enabling the controls, moving towards him and disabling them again or select him in the console and use 'moveto player' to move him to you. It may also be the issue when removing the player's inventory in the entry way. Moving to him worked perfectly. Don't know why! For whoever have this problem, the command is player.moveto 570EF61F <- His ID xD Thanks x)
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 I'm having a problem with Thalmor Quest. I show up at the Embassy but Elenwyr is nowhere around. When I go for the gate I lose control of my character and guard shows up with sword unsheated but does nothing. I turned off Combat AI but the only differnece is that guard keeps his sword holstered. I tried to use reset options but nothing helps. I also tried to seek hel;p at this topic but it's too long to read it all and there was no match found with words "Thalmor" or "Elenwyr" that would be helpful Anty ideas how i can overcome this? Having the same issue, without an horse. And it's kinda of weird because the first time i did this quest, it worked perfectly. I guess one of the mod i own is conflicting, probably. But, i could speak with him, the problem come a little later, when he wants to check the letter from the Master. Welp, he does nothing, and i tried to leave it open for almost 30 min. Doooon't know why. xD The only thing I can think of is that he is just outside the force greet distance for some reason. You can try either enabling the controls, moving towards him and disabling them again or select him in the console and use 'moveto player' to move him to you. It may also be the issue when removing the player's inventory in the entry way. Moving to him worked perfectly. Don't know why! For whoever have this problem, the command is player.moveto 570EF61F <- His ID xD Thanks x) I will increase all the force greet distances, it should fix the issue.
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 I'm currently attempting the Thalmar Quest and I'm stuck at the Rack section. I am unable to use "setstage cdxexpquest02 XXX", which I've had to use a few times before this part. Was there ever a clear solution to this issue? I have the newest Zaz and CDS. My character is standing in front of the rack, unable to get on. The assistant is looping an arm motion as if shes giving me something. I press E on the rack in First Person mode and the screen jumps to black for a few moments, before returning to the loop/stuck animation As I remember she is putting a few items on you (gag and/or blindfold I think), once they are on it should advance. As for fixing it, if I could recreate it I would but it has always worked for me.
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 I'm currently attempting the Thalmar Quest and I'm stuck at the Rack section. I am unable to use "setstage cdxexpquest02 XXX", which I've had to use a few times before this part. Was there ever a clear solution to this issue? I have the newest Zaz and CDS. My character is standing in front of the rack, unable to get on. The assistant is looping an arm motion as if shes giving me something. I press E on the rack in First Person mode and the screen jumps to black for a few moments, before returning to the loop/stuck animation As I remember she is putting a few items on you (gag and/or blindfold I think), once they are on it should advance. As for fixing it, if I could recreate it I would but it has always worked for me. Yeah she does, she gives me two gagballs (RD-Ebonite Gag Panel + Ring). Maybe it's trying to put them both on? Unsure what the requirements are for the scene to advance. Also I've seen you mention that it's possibly an issue with Sexlab. Are the latest versions of Zaz compatible? I should mention as well that I've never used a Rack before. It could be a furniture animation that I just don't have? or is it part of the core Zaz library? I'm troubleshooting my butt off over here, so any advice is appreciated!! EDIT: nvm fixed it I set my escape threshold to 0 in the Devious Devices MCM, destroyed the equipped Gag bondage (the plugged one), and equipped the ring one. I'm not convinced that particular incident was the problem.. When I went to use the Rack, the animations were really screwy and I ended up standing in it. I think the Rack isn't registered properly or something. Anyway I can make sure everything is working? I experience similar stuck bugs on Prison Overhaul (gaurds attack me, endless punishments that stop progressing) so I think the problem is on my end, I just don't know how to fix it. Edit: Now I'm stuck at the horse scene , I was able to free movement to get on it, but then it got stuck in the "idle forever" loop once I was on. The first gag may have not been removed properly and may have caused the issue. As for the rack it is the one from ZAZ Animation, I just have the player 'sit' in it and it should do the rest. As for the other furniture I am not sure what is causing the issues with them unless another mod is making changes to the ZAZ furniture instead of creating their own versions. There are some recent updates to Prison Overhaul that fixes a number of issues with it.
gooberboy9999 Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Are you expecting to triple the dialogue at this point Veladarius? Every time you post an update it seems like you're adding more and more to the expansion.
jorgenjoggernaut Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Im new around here, got few questions When u are punished by the master. left in the cell with gags and belts, etc 1.how long does this last? Is there a way to make it shorter? 2.what u need to force by brute force or magic the gags and the belts and all that stuff? 3.how does the toggle long/short punishment works? I got first mission and took quite my time to finish it then I got punished, used time scale command but nothing happend, passed several days and nothing Do I have to do something to advance in the scene? I manage to advance in the scene but got a camera bug, used tfc and other comands to restore and nothing happend, aso tryed to release me from that with werewolf form and just bugged it. The people who got the gags and all that stuff can u remove the things from them? how? And lastly can u make ur "slave" or something like the pupets she has that bitch master?
aqqh Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I believe I have found the issue with npc's not wanting to use the road in front of the shop. Apparently changing the navmesh for one cell requires finalizing not only that cell but every cell that touches it. So far this seems to have taken care of the issues though npc's still like wandering behind the shop. As for the road itself, I did not change the navmesh for it at all. Point is one NPC is supposed to travel from Hunters Rest (a lil bit north from CD shop) to the south. Package has "Prefer preferred path" so that NPC should stick to the road - and without CD loaded she is. With CD loaded she is quite eager to try to use that walkway on the side of the shop which may end in her getting stuck if that walkway doesn't exist yet.
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 The first gag may have not been removed properly and may have caused the issue. As for the rack it is the one from ZAZ Animation, I just have the player 'sit' in it and it should do the rest. As for the other furniture I am not sure what is causing the issues with them unless another mod is making changes to the ZAZ furniture instead of creating their own versions. There are some recent updates to Prison Overhaul that fixes a number of issues with it. Well I got stuck in a similar fashion on the horse (I was standing in it after riding it for a short period of time) I reloaded a prev save, and I want to get to the bottom of this. Went back in front of the Rack, and destroyed the equipped harness. Didn't solve it this time. I noticed my gagged harness was still plugged and I had a plug in my inventory, so that might be the root of things. I also disabled Prison Overhaul to see if that would fix anything but it hasn't. I could not imagine what other mod would interact with DD like this. I don't even have Defeat or Submit. If you have any other advice, please help I love your mod The plug for the gag gets removed and added to your inventory a number of times, there are a number of times that it never gets removed from your inventory so you end up with a bunch of them. For the rack and other furniture I don't know why it works for some and not others. Are you expecting to triple the dialogue at this point Veladarius? Every time you post an update it seems like you're adding more and more to the expansion. A few parts have expanded somewhat but some others have been pushed back to the following release and I expect to have over 10,000 lines of dialogue when v4 is done. I ended up having to setstage throughout the quest just to get out of it (been at this for way too long) and when it finally ended my inventory was still empty! I lost all my stuff, at what point do you get it back? this really stinks coc cdxEmbassy01 will get you back into the embasy, the chest containing you irems is here: Im new around here, got few questions When u are punished by the master. left in the cell with gags and belts, etc 1.how long does this last? Is there a way to make it shorter? 2.what u need to force by brute force or magic the gags and the belts and all that stuff? 3.how does the toggle long/short punishment works? I got first mission and took quite my time to finish it then I got punished, used time scale command but nothing happend, passed several days and nothing Do I have to do something to advance in the scene? I manage to advance in the scene but got a camera bug, used tfc and other comands to restore and nothing happend, aso tryed to release me from that with werewolf form and just bugged it. The people who got the gags and all that stuff can u remove the things from them? how? And lastly can u make ur "slave" or something like the pupets she has that bitch master? Are you talking about the cage out in the wilderness, the one just outside the shop or the one in the basement? Forcing the locks with magic and brute force is based on the skill that it goes with, chances are similar to picking the locks but it typically isn't easy. The long / short punishment toggle is for the punishment when you say you can't recover the delivery. The punishment is normally 3 days / 2 nights but the short version is 2 days / 1 night To remove items from npc's you need access to their inventory. NPC's from the shop have the items in their outfit so you won't have access to those and a key won't open them. I believe I have found the issue with npc's not wanting to use the road in front of the shop. Apparently changing the navmesh for one cell requires finalizing not only that cell but every cell that touches it. So far this seems to have taken care of the issues though npc's still like wandering behind the shop. As for the road itself, I did not change the navmesh for it at all. Point is one NPC is supposed to travel from Hunters Rest (a lil bit north from CD shop) to the south. Package has "Prefer preferred path" so that NPC should stick to the road - and without CD loaded she is. With CD loaded she is quite eager to try to use that walkway on the side of the shop which may end in her getting stuck if that walkway doesn't exist yet. 2015-04-19_00001.jpg Once they hit the wall there they should either teleport on top of it and continue or choose another route as that would be considered blocked. Including the road there are 3 preferred paths by the shop so if one is blocked there are others to use.
Mister X Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Lol, so the cage in the basement also has another meaning besides holding the display slaves at night? I've walked in it once and the door wouldn't open until morning but I waited and walked out together with the slaves, nothing else happened
jorgenjoggernaut Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Thanks, the one in the basemente, got first delivery quest, to jarl of falktreath but I took quite my time many many days, when I back to the shop, "the master" told me something about the time and whip me then left me binded in the basement, but it takes to much time and the scene doesnt progress, also tryed the restart options but the mission still appears in my log, is there a way of deleting this mission or pass it trough? sorry for my bad english
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 Lol, so the cage in the basement also has another meaning besides holding the display slaves at night? I've walked in it once and the door wouldn't open until morning but I waited and walked out together with the slaves, nothing else happened If you have a quest belt you can sleep in the basement but once you go in you can't leave until the morning. Thanks, the one in the basemente, got first delivery quest, to jarl of falktreath but I took quite my time many many days, when I back to the shop, "the master" told me something about the time and whip me then left me binded in the basement, but it takes to much time and the scene doesnt progress, also tryed the restart options but the mission still appears in my log, is there a way of deleting this mission or pass it trough? sorry for my bad english It sounds like it has not moved the Master and Herran back to the basement. You can manually move them to you using 'prid <id number>' then 'moveto player' on each of them. You can get their id by using 'sqv cdxmp03' and look at them there, it will list their id's.
theHatzel Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I have CTD everytime I finish or get some quest. I already tryed to clean my save it didn't work.
ThatSeasonsGal Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I have CTD everytime I finish or get some quest. I already tryed to clean my save it didn't work. Sorry mate, but we're going to need more info than that. Do you have a papyrus log?
Arhon Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Before anything I would like to say that I use a Custom Bodyslide body (using this bodyslide http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-working-vagina-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support/page-98?do=findComment&comment=1201275) altought a bit tweaked to suit my tastes. Also in case you are wondering(not sure if it got anything to do with this problem but still.) I am using Mod Organizer. Not sure why but when I wear Captured Dreams Chastity Bra Silver( the Master equip's these on my character when she ask me if I want to try the devices out and leaves them on for a week or so ) always crashes the breasts size like it isnt even there. But it only happens on my character when she is wearing Captured Dreams Chastity Bra Silver however it doesnt happen to the other npc's out there. Still the problem isnt that, the problem begins when my character is wearing these and the Master sends the courier to give me a note for a quest (the quest for Elewin at the Thalmor Embassy) when the master unequips these Captured Dreams Chastity set: Chastity belt Padded Open Silver Chastity Bra Silver Padded Arm Cuffs Silver Padded Collar Silver Padded Leg Cuffs Silver And Prepares my character before I can leave the shop and deliver the Package to Elewin, the moment she prepares my character and I am about to leave the shop by clicking the door, I get an instant CTD. Didnt thought much about it and tried again, however the result was the same. I then tried again but this time with a new character to check in order to be sure if its just a concidence but the same problem appeared at that new character too. Also I got a request if its possible, can you provide Bodyslide versions of your Captured Dreams Chastity set + Padded set (rather all the captured Dreams devious device items) in the case that this problem might be fixed if we make a bodyslide version of these items? Checked the Desctription you wrote but I couldnt find any answer to my problem. I always Run FNIS before I start up the game(yeah I do that even if I dont put new animations or remove exististing ones) as for load order I use LOOT v7 and got no problems.
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 Before anything I would like to say that I use a Custom Bodyslide body (using this bodyslide http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-working-vagina-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support/page-98?do=findComment&comment=1201275) altought a bit tweaked to suit my tastes. Also in case you are wondering(not sure if it got anything to do with this problem but still.) I am using Mod Organizer. Not sure why but when I wear Captured Dreams Chastity Bra Silver( the Master equip's these on my character when she ask me if I want to try the devices out and leaves them on for a week or so ) always crashes the breasts size like it isnt even there. But it only happens on my character when she is wearing Captured Dreams Chastity Bra Silver however it doesnt happen to the other npc's out there. Still the problem isnt that, the problem begins when my character is wearing these and the Master sends the courier to give me a note for a quest (the quest for Elewin at the Thalmor Embassy) when the master unequips these Captured Dreams Chastity set: Chastity belt Padded Open Silver Chastity Bra Silver Padded Arm Cuffs Silver Padded Collar Silver Padded Leg Cuffs Silver And Prepares my character before I can leave the shop and deliver the Package to Elewin, the moment she prepares my character and I am about to leave the shop by clicking the door, I get an instant CTD. Didnt thought much about it and tried again, however the result was the same. I then tried again but this time with a new character to check in order to be sure if its just a concidence but the same problem appeared at that new character too. Also I got a request if its possible, can you provide Bodyslide versions of your Captured Dreams Chastity set + Padded set (rather all the captured Dreams devious device items) in the case that this problem might be fixed if we make a bodyslide version of these items? Checked the Desctription you wrote but I couldnt find any answer to my problem. I always Run FNIS before I start up the game(yeah I do that even if I dont put new animations or remove exististing ones) as for load order I use LOOT v7 and got no problems. All of my custom items use the same meshes as the original ones, only the textures are different. Integration will automatically reduce the breast size to try and avoid any conflicts with the bra but that can be turned off in the Integration MCM menu (under Devices I believe).
Arhon Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Yes that option (Breast Node Management under the Devices tab under the Devious Devices Integration) however you cant turn it off once the device is on you. However I did turn it off when I made a new save to test it out in the case that this problem I encountered is just a coincidence, but... same problem happens too.. Anyway, this problem only happens when the Captured Dreams Chastity Bra Silver is equipped and removed, the moment I go outside after that happens I get CTD. Tested it with other devices and it didn't happen with them. Kind of thinking that it might be a problem during installation so I reinstalled the mod and its requirements(I run FNIS before and after too then LOOT) then made a new character and went to check it out, as unfortunate as it is... same problem again.. Not sure if this happens to just me or it happens to others too , so cant really tell what the problem is... One point however its that as far as I remember on the earlier versions this problem never happened to me.
theHatzel Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I have CTD everytime I finish or get some quest. I already tryed to clean my save it didn't work. Sorry mate, but we're going to need more info than that. Do you have a papyrus log? Sory about that. This time I managed to deliver the quest and save the game, but when I picked the another one, the game crashed. This quest that i'm trying to get is the second time that Master called me by a letter to help her. Papyrus.0.log
Veladarius Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 I have CTD everytime I finish or get some quest. I already tryed to clean my save it didn't work. Sorry mate, but we're going to need more info than that. Do you have a papyrus log? Sory about that. This time I managed to deliver the quest and save the game, but when I picked the another one, the game crashed. This quest that i'm trying to get is the second time that Master called me by a letter to help her. You have a lot of errors from SD+ in this log. Also (and most worrying) is an error saying it can't find the keyword 'zad_devioussuit' in Integration (zadlibs - main Integration script) as I know for certain that is in there. Something to check, do you have frostfall installed and do you have the patch for frostfall from SD+ active?
Flixerine Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 The first gag may have not been removed properly and may have caused the issue. As for the rack it is the one from ZAZ Animation, I just have the player 'sit' in it and it should do the rest. As for the other furniture I am not sure what is causing the issues with them unless another mod is making changes to the ZAZ furniture instead of creating their own versions. There are some recent updates to Prison Overhaul that fixes a number of issues with it. Well I got stuck in a similar fashion on the horse (I was standing in it after riding it for a short period of time) I reloaded a prev save, and I want to get to the bottom of this. Went back in front of the Rack, and destroyed the equipped harness. Didn't solve it this time. I noticed my gagged harness was still plugged and I had a plug in my inventory, so that might be the root of things. I also disabled Prison Overhaul to see if that would fix anything but it hasn't. I could not imagine what other mod would interact with DD like this. I don't even have Defeat or Submit. If you have any other advice, please help I love your mod I was stuck at the same, but what I found out helped, after a lot of tries, was to be in first person mode, and then switch between first and third person perspective, because for some reason that seems to unstuck it at times. Not sure if it works for you as well, and maybe it is luck based, but yeah...
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