Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I wouldn't mind the use of furniture, but I feel the easiest way to use it would be if there were three actors, you could put one in furniture forcing them to watch or something, but with just two actors the best you could probably do is put dialogue on top of it.

2 subs would increase options allowing you to make one watch as the other "acts", gives reasons for reactions and commands can be used by one against the other, giving a lot more room for command options I feel.

Would certainly add the range of use for chastity items for instance.

If you used sexlab hooks to catch stages of the animation, you could add dialogue to add/remove items as the animation progresses, adding gags, restraints, blindfold, ect, so that sex is more interesting, might have to limit which animations get used though, would benefit really long animations or animations with stages that change in a way that adding items would make sense.

As for the dialogue itself I'm pretty bad at creation.

Offtopic: I haven't been reading the notes on what you have planned for 4.0 because I've been trying to avoid spoilers, did you plan on adding any 3rd party mod starting locations with the new slavery system, like you added the start for live another life?

I know it's probably low priority, I just want to know if there's anything in the works I could use.

I will be having a third person there from time to time but I have figured out how to whip the npc where the player actually does the whipping (not a scene) and the npc responds as well as having dialogue for the npc and player. Most other acts with the npc in the pillory will be dialogue activated though.

I am looking into detecting the various stages of a sexlab sex act and have player and npc dialogue, the player dialogue would be randomly determined and shown just like npc dialogue is.

I will have a full slavery start with the player starting as a property slave, all the dialogue will be set up and will likely just take setting the stage of a quest. I will also be hooking into other slavery mods for if/when the player gets to the 'bad end' of the property slave and hand the player off to them. Simple slavery is the most likely since it can then hand the player off to another slavery mod.

zenetx · May 22, 2015

As regards the slaves dialogues/reactions, I would like to see slaves with their own personalities, much like the assist a customer quest.

ex.: reluctant, exhibitionists, shy, masochists, perverts, frightened, loverlike, etc. The dialogues should be easier to create after that.

*foreveraloneguy* · May 22, 2015

I already have masturbate on belt removal disabled after reading earlier comments. It's been disabled for this entire play through. I don't use MO, so it's nothing related to that. I don't disagree that something is causing the scene to pause, but how would I go about figuring that out short of disabling mods in batches and playing until I get to the Elenwen quest again?

Do you use any slavery mods? A number of them try to do things when the player has a collar on.

Nope. This is what I have loaded:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

EFFCore.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Purity.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

devourment.esm=0

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

SGHairPackAIO.esm=1

soulgem-oven.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Abundant Enchantments.esp=1

AncientBladeWeapons.esp=1

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1

immersivesnowice.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

IcicleValley.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

Aradia Lace Dress.esp=1

ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Ayame Kunoichi.esp.esp=1

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BGC UNPSlim.esp=1

Big N Maru.esp=1

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp=1

Blush When Aroused.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SamuraiBlades.esp=1

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Serana Improved.esp=1

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp=1

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=0

SVS Merged Jewelery.esp=1

Bob's Boots SevenBase.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp=1

CD - Slave Leai renewal addon.esp=0

CD - Bobs Boots CBBE addon.esp=0

CD - SVS Jewelry addon.esp=0

Combat Evolved.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelry.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire.esp=1

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1

DrunkenSluts.esp=1

Dual Flurry for all.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp=1

EFFDialogue.esp=1

EpisodeParallax.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

NakedComments.esp=1

FemaleNakedComments.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

ForcefulBashPerk.esp=1

ForswornHAIR.esp=0

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1

FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

ImprovedSneakDetection.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Insanity Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=0

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp=0

Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp=0

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1

SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp=1

Jinhua.esp=1

JinhuaCat Outfit.esp=0

JinhuaCat Retextures.esp=0

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=0

Krill_AurielsBowFix_20BaseDamage.esp=1

Less Talkative NPCs Release - No Combat Speech Change - V1.esp=0

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Lovergirl Race.esp=1

LunariRace.esp=1

NPC Overhaul.esp=1

OrientalRace.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Lovergirls Follower Pack.esp=1

MaskofBlades.esp=1

MidnightBreed.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

MoreRevelers.esp=1

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mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

NighteyeSpell.esp=1

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RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

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ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1

serana.esp=0

SeranaDialogEdit.esp=0

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SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

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SexLabSexBounty.esp=1

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SGEyebrows.esp=1

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SL Deadly Drain.esp=1

SlaveTats.esp=1

sobcheat.esp=1

DynDOLOD.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Immersive Horses.esp=1

SexLab_Hormones.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp=1

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

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TrueEyes.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

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warpaints and tattoos.esp=1

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Whistle.esp=1

wjun28.esp=1

WondersofWeather.esp=1

YotoHatamonba.esp=1

yurica_daisho.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Ran a debug too. Nothing related to this quest even showed up in the debug, and very little at all after the usual start up noise.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I already have masturbate on belt removal disabled after reading earlier comments. It's been disabled for this entire play through. I don't use MO, so it's nothing related to that. I don't disagree that something is causing the scene to pause, but how would I go about figuring that out short of disabling mods in batches and playing until I get to the Elenwen quest again?

Do you use any slavery mods? A number of them try to do things when the player has a collar on.

Nope. This is what I have loaded:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

EFFCore.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Purity.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

devourment.esm=0

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SexLabAroused.esm=1

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SGHairPackAIO.esm=1

soulgem-oven.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

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HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Abundant Enchantments.esp=1

AncientBladeWeapons.esp=1

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1

immersivesnowice.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

IcicleValley.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

Aradia Lace Dress.esp=1

ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Ayame Kunoichi.esp.esp=1

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BGC UNPSlim.esp=1

Big N Maru.esp=1

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp=1

Blush When Aroused.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SamuraiBlades.esp=1

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Serana Improved.esp=1

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp=1

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=0

SVS Merged Jewelery.esp=1

Bob's Boots SevenBase.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp=1

CD - Slave Leai renewal addon.esp=0

CD - Bobs Boots CBBE addon.esp=0

CD - SVS Jewelry addon.esp=0

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SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp=1

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Devious Deviants.esp=1

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Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

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DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp=1

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Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire.esp=1

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1

DrunkenSluts.esp=1

Dual Flurry for all.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp=1

EFFDialogue.esp=1

EpisodeParallax.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

NakedComments.esp=1

FemaleNakedComments.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

ForcefulBashPerk.esp=1

ForswornHAIR.esp=0

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

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FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

ImprovedSneakDetection.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Insanity Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=0

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp=0

Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp=0

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1

SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp=1

Jinhua.esp=1

JinhuaCat Outfit.esp=0

JinhuaCat Retextures.esp=0

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=0

Krill_AurielsBowFix_20BaseDamage.esp=1

Less Talkative NPCs Release - No Combat Speech Change - V1.esp=0

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Lovergirl Race.esp=1

LunariRace.esp=1

NPC Overhaul.esp=1

OrientalRace.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Lovergirls Follower Pack.esp=1

MaskofBlades.esp=1

MidnightBreed.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

MoreRevelers.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

NighteyeSpell.esp=1

NightHawkTBBP.esp=1

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SGEyebrows.esp=1

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SlaveTats.esp=1

sobcheat.esp=1

DynDOLOD.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Immersive Horses.esp=1

SexLab_Hormones.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp=1

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sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

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TrueBrows.esp=1

TrueEyes.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

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Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp=0

Variable Movement.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos.esp=1

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wgwarpaint2p0.esp=0

Whistle.esp=1

wjun28.esp=1

WondersofWeather.esp=1

YotoHatamonba.esp=1

yurica_daisho.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Ran a debug too. Nothing related to this quest even showed up in the debug, and very little at all after the usual start up noise.

Nothing stands out, post a papyrus log with debug logging enabled for DD-Integration if you would.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

As regards the slaves dialogues/reactions, I would like to see slaves with their own personalities, much like the assist a customer quest.

ex.: reluctant, exhibitionists, shy, masochists, perverts, frightened, loverlike, etc. The dialogues should be easier to create after that.

The traits they are assigned will enable or disable different dialogue in the various scenes, they are all listed a few pages back. The same traits will also be given to the player (you get to set them) and will determine your likes and dislikes, I will also be adding what sex you prefer your partner to be (male, female or any).

*Content Consumer* · May 22, 2015

As regards the slaves dialogues/reactions, I would like to see slaves with their own personalities, much like the assist a customer quest.

ex.: reluctant, exhibitionists, shy, masochists, perverts, frightened, loverlike, etc. The dialogues should be easier to create after that.

Then start writing! Help speed the process, hey?

*foreveraloneguy* · May 22, 2015

I waited a few minutes after Elenwen and I went into our stare off before exiting.

Papyrus.0.log

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I waited a few minutes after Elenwen and I went into our stare off before exiting.

Whatever mod you are using that changes npc's breasts and bellies is running a lot, see if you can increase the time between checks.

May 22, 2015

I already have masturbate on belt removal disabled after reading earlier comments. It's been disabled for this entire play through. I don't use MO, so it's nothing related to that. I don't disagree that something is causing the scene to pause, but how would I go about figuring that out short of disabling mods in batches and playing until I get to the Elenwen quest again?

Do you use any slavery mods? A number of them try to do things when the player has a collar on.

Nope. This is what I have loaded:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

EFFCore.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Purity.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

devourment.esm=0

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

SGHairPackAIO.esm=1

soulgem-oven.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Abundant Enchantments.esp=1

AncientBladeWeapons.esp=1

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1

immersivesnowice.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

IcicleValley.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

Aradia Lace Dress.esp=1

ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Ayame Kunoichi.esp.esp=1

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BGC UNPSlim.esp=1

Big N Maru.esp=1

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp=1

Blush When Aroused.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SamuraiBlades.esp=1

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Serana Improved.esp=1

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp=1

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=0

SVS Merged Jewelery.esp=1

Bob's Boots SevenBase.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp=1

CD - Slave Leai renewal addon.esp=0

CD - Bobs Boots CBBE addon.esp=0

CD - SVS Jewelry addon.esp=0

Combat Evolved.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelry.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire.esp=1

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1

DrunkenSluts.esp=1

Dual Flurry for all.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp=1

EFFDialogue.esp=1

EpisodeParallax.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

NakedComments.esp=1

FemaleNakedComments.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

ForcefulBashPerk.esp=1

ForswornHAIR.esp=0

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1

FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

ImprovedSneakDetection.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Insanity Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=0

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp=0

Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp=0

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1

SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp=1

Jinhua.esp=1

JinhuaCat Outfit.esp=0

JinhuaCat Retextures.esp=0

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=0

Krill_AurielsBowFix_20BaseDamage.esp=1

Less Talkative NPCs Release - No Combat Speech Change - V1.esp=0

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Lovergirl Race.esp=1

LunariRace.esp=1

NPC Overhaul.esp=1

OrientalRace.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Lovergirls Follower Pack.esp=1

MaskofBlades.esp=1

MidnightBreed.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

MoreRevelers.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

NighteyeSpell.esp=1

NightHawkTBBP.esp=1

NoAutoAim.esp=0

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

Nuska Warpaint.esp=0

PotemaCrashFix.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp=1

RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp=1

RutahTattooPack.esp=0

ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1

serana.esp=0

SeranaDialogEdit.esp=0

SexLab Romance.esp=1

SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

SexLabSexBounty.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

SGEyebrows.esp=1

Skysan_Icicle.esp=1

SL Deadly Drain.esp=1

SlaveTats.esp=1

sobcheat.esp=1

DynDOLOD.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Immersive Horses.esp=1

SexLab_Hormones.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp=1

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitBBP.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitNonBBP.esp=0

TrueBrows.esp=1

TrueEyes.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

Vampiric_Drain_Fix_BloodChalice.esp=0

Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp=0

Variable Movement.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos backup.esp=0

wgwarpaint2p0.esp=0

Whistle.esp=1

wjun28.esp=1

WondersofWeather.esp=1

YotoHatamonba.esp=1

yurica_daisho.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Ran a debug too. Nothing related to this quest even showed up in the debug, and very little at all after the usual start up noise.

loots of script heavy mods. to many of them can freeze scenes.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I already have masturbate on belt removal disabled after reading earlier comments. It's been disabled for this entire play through. I don't use MO, so it's nothing related to that. I don't disagree that something is causing the scene to pause, but how would I go about figuring that out short of disabling mods in batches and playing until I get to the Elenwen quest again?

Do you use any slavery mods? A number of them try to do things when the player has a collar on.

Nope. This is what I have loaded:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

EFFCore.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Purity.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

devourment.esm=0

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

SGHairPackAIO.esm=1

soulgem-oven.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Abundant Enchantments.esp=1

AncientBladeWeapons.esp=1

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1

immersivesnowice.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

IcicleValley.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

Aradia Lace Dress.esp=1

ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Ayame Kunoichi.esp.esp=1

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BGC UNPSlim.esp=1

Big N Maru.esp=1

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp=1

Blush When Aroused.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SamuraiBlades.esp=1

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Serana Improved.esp=1

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp=1

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=0

SVS Merged Jewelery.esp=1

Bob's Boots SevenBase.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp=1

CD - Slave Leai renewal addon.esp=0

CD - Bobs Boots CBBE addon.esp=0

CD - SVS Jewelry addon.esp=0

Combat Evolved.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelry.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire.esp=1

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1

DrunkenSluts.esp=1

Dual Flurry for all.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp=1

EFFDialogue.esp=1

EpisodeParallax.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

NakedComments.esp=1

FemaleNakedComments.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

ForcefulBashPerk.esp=1

ForswornHAIR.esp=0

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1

FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

ImprovedSneakDetection.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Insanity Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=0

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp=0

Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp=0

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1

SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp=1

Jinhua.esp=1

JinhuaCat Outfit.esp=0

JinhuaCat Retextures.esp=0

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=0

Krill_AurielsBowFix_20BaseDamage.esp=1

Less Talkative NPCs Release - No Combat Speech Change - V1.esp=0

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Lovergirl Race.esp=1

LunariRace.esp=1

NPC Overhaul.esp=1

OrientalRace.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Lovergirls Follower Pack.esp=1

MaskofBlades.esp=1

MidnightBreed.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

MoreRevelers.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

NighteyeSpell.esp=1

NightHawkTBBP.esp=1

NoAutoAim.esp=0

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

Nuska Warpaint.esp=0

PotemaCrashFix.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp=1

RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp=1

RutahTattooPack.esp=0

ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1

serana.esp=0

SeranaDialogEdit.esp=0

SexLab Romance.esp=1

SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

SexLabSexBounty.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

SGEyebrows.esp=1

Skysan_Icicle.esp=1

SL Deadly Drain.esp=1

SlaveTats.esp=1

sobcheat.esp=1

DynDOLOD.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Immersive Horses.esp=1

SexLab_Hormones.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp=1

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitBBP.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitNonBBP.esp=0

TrueBrows.esp=1

TrueEyes.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

Vampiric_Drain_Fix_BloodChalice.esp=0

Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp=0

Variable Movement.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos backup.esp=0

wgwarpaint2p0.esp=0

Whistle.esp=1

wjun28.esp=1

WondersofWeather.esp=1

YotoHatamonba.esp=1

yurica_daisho.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Ran a debug too. Nothing related to this quest even showed up in the debug, and very little at all after the usual start up noise.

loots of script heavy mods. to many of them can freeze scenes.

I run more than that with very few issues, it really isn't about the number of mods but avoiding ones that cause issues.

This is my mod order:

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

SMPC.esp=1

SMPC Overwrite Fixes.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

HentaiPregnancy.esm=1

Children+SoulGems.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

FM - HaafingarHall.esm=1

TERAArmors.esm=1

Raven UKC.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp=1

Uncapped Perks - Magic.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Map Markers Complete.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp=1

Beautiful Cities.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Climates of Tamriel Combined.esp=1

Relighting Skyrim Combined.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Merged.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Purewaters.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

mcCampingLite.esp=1

Dead Body Collision.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

People Have Torches.esp=1

Better Sorting Merged.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_DLCs_Patches.esp=1

SleepTight.esp=1

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1

SkyrimToyStory.esp=1

Convenient Horse Herding.esp=1

My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

ASLAL - Hearthfire Support.esp=1

BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1

CrimeDecay.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

ItemRewardsForBounties.esp=1

no_essential_COs.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

Rebirth Monster.esp=1

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

TradeBarter.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

NoHelmet.esp=1

Enchanting Freedom.esp=1

UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp=1

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

OblHairsCombined.esp=1

_NewHair.esp=1

HepsyHair.esp=1

HHairstyles.esp=1

AzarHair.esp=1

Hair Physics Project.esp=1

doahair.esp=1

MarieRose Wig.esp=1

MeridaHair.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

numenume Hair.esp=1

HF-MoveSpouse.esp=1

Brows.esp=1

Cherry's Eyes.esp=1

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1

mslZaZArachnophobia.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

LaFemmeLycana.esp=1

WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Vampirelordroyal.esp=1

BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1

LFox No Werewolf Form Cooldown.esp=1

Scriptless werewolf bonus.esp=1

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1

TravelMounts.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

GagSFX.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

Children+SoulGemsDragonborn.esp=1

DD - Interactions.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

SkyrimBound.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp=1

ImmerSlave.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1

EstrusChaurus.esp=1

SexLab Romance.esp=1

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

SexLabGenderChange.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

LoversVictim.esp=1

Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1

Devious Devices For Him.esp=1

Lanterns.esp=1

Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp=1

CrossbowsRevamped.esp=1

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1

3rdEraWeapMoS-rareCraft.esp=1

Differently Ebony.esp=1

Lineage 2 Crossbows.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Craft, Temper, Smelt.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

PrinceandPauper.esp=1

Gatti14Yumiko.esp=1

Spriggan Armor 2.esp=1

Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

Ballet Boots.esp=1

XiNafay - Shoes.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1

LadyKdCirclets.esp=1

Piercings_EC.esp=1

Babette.esp=1

Tes4mod.esp=1

tumblr gifts.esp=1

TS_GimpHood.esp=1

HDT Havok Object.esp=1

HSxHorseStablingCities+HF.esp=1

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1

SC_Shiny Catsuits - CD Edition.esp=1

TZ_LockingLatexHoods - CD Edition.esp=1

ZAZDeviousBindings - CD Edition.esp=1

CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp=1

Misc Jewelry.esp=1

CombinedArmorWeaponsGen.esp=1

Skyrim Expanded Loot Tables.esp=1

DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp=1

SC_Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

zzjayHentaisConversions.esp=1

LoliAlice.esp=1

BnS.esp=1

PSLacePanties.esp=1

FM - HHall Exterior.esp=1

FM - UNP Merchants.esp=1

NewmGlassRobe.esp=1

RRElphintos.esp=1

CD - TS Gimp Hood addon.esp=0

LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp=0

Proper Aiming.esp=0

LFox Vendors Have Arrows.esp=0

CD - ShinyRubberCatsuitsOnly addon.esp=0

CD - Skyrim Strapon addon.esp=0

CD - ShinyRubberCatsuits addon.esp=0

yurica_summerdress [HDT].esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Elewin Pumps.esp=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

12FemaleBrows.esp=1

K2 HDT Boots.esp=1

FineImperialDress.esp=1

Steel Bolts For All.esp=0

Kanrax2AntiqueClothes.esp=1

Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1

Predator Vision.esp=1

TZ_LockingLatexHoods.esp=1

yurica_chevaleresse [HDT].esp=1

Animated Fairy Wings.esp=1

Lineage 2 Shields and Sigils.esp=1

Real Flying.esp=1

GypsyEyesCaravan.esp=1

fairy.esp=1

TrueStorms.esp=1

TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp=1

zzArmormashups.esp=1

LNL.esp=1

Zipsuit.esp=1

AelididPOTW.esp=1

CarlottaValentiaHappyEnding.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp=1

ProperWeaponScale.esp=1

Stormcloaks_n_Guards_with_Face.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

enb_reference.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Another one to look at is SexLab nude creatures, the normal setting is that it checks them every 5 seconds, try setting it to 30, that is what I run it at.

May 22, 2015

I already have masturbate on belt removal disabled after reading earlier comments. It's been disabled for this entire play through. I don't use MO, so it's nothing related to that. I don't disagree that something is causing the scene to pause, but how would I go about figuring that out short of disabling mods in batches and playing until I get to the Elenwen quest again?

Do you use any slavery mods? A number of them try to do things when the player has a collar on.

Nope. This is what I have loaded:

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

EFFCore.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

Purity.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

devourment.esm=0

RSkyrimChildren.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

SGHairPackAIO.esm=1

soulgem-oven.esp=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Abundant Enchantments.esp=1

AncientBladeWeapons.esp=1

ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1

immersivesnowice.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

IcicleValley.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

AnnaNPCs.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

Aradia Lace Dress.esp=1

ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Ayame Kunoichi.esp.esp=1

AZS03SexLabHdtHighHeels.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1

BGC UNPSlim.esp=1

Big N Maru.esp=1

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp=1

Blush When Aroused.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SamuraiBlades.esp=1

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Serana Improved.esp=1

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp=1

Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=0

SVS Merged Jewelery.esp=1

Bob's Boots SevenBase.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp=1

CD - Slave Leai renewal addon.esp=0

CD - Bobs Boots CBBE addon.esp=0

CD - SVS Jewelry addon.esp=0

Combat Evolved.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

dc-mana-tanks-000.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp=1

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelry.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp=1

DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire.esp=1

DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1

DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1

DrunkenSluts.esp=1

Dual Flurry for all.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1

Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp=1

EFFDialogue.esp=1

EpisodeParallax.esp=1

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1

NakedComments.esp=1

FemaleNakedComments.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

ForcefulBashPerk.esp=1

ForswornHAIR.esp=0

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1

FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1

FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

ImprovedSneakDetection.esp=1

InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

Insanity Weapons.esp=1

Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp=0

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp=0

Insanity's Kahvozein Fang.esp=0

Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1

SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp=1

Jinhua.esp=1

JinhuaCat Outfit.esp=0

JinhuaCat Retextures.esp=0

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=0

Krill_AurielsBowFix_20BaseDamage.esp=1

Less Talkative NPCs Release - No Combat Speech Change - V1.esp=0

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Lovergirl Race.esp=1

LunariRace.esp=1

NPC Overhaul.esp=1

OrientalRace.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Lovergirls Follower Pack.esp=1

MaskofBlades.esp=1

MidnightBreed.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

MoreRevelers.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

NighteyeSpell.esp=1

NightHawkTBBP.esp=1

NoAutoAim.esp=0

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

Nuska Warpaint.esp=0

PotemaCrashFix.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp=1

RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp=1

RutahTattooPack.esp=0

ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp=1

serana.esp=0

SeranaDialogEdit.esp=0

SexLab Romance.esp=1

SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

SexLabSexBounty.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

SGEyebrows.esp=1

Skysan_Icicle.esp=1

SL Deadly Drain.esp=1

SlaveTats.esp=1

sobcheat.esp=1

DynDOLOD.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

Immersive Horses.esp=1

SexLab_Hormones.esp=1

SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1

SPS - Sexlab Position Selector.esp=1

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitBBP.esp=1

SuiFonOutfitNonBBP.esp=0

TrueBrows.esp=1

TrueEyes.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

Vampiric_Drain_Fix_BloodChalice.esp=0

Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp=0

Variable Movement.esp=1

VioLens.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos.esp=1

warpaints and tattoos backup.esp=0

wgwarpaint2p0.esp=0

Whistle.esp=1

wjun28.esp=1

WondersofWeather.esp=1

YotoHatamonba.esp=1

yurica_daisho.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Ran a debug too. Nothing related to this quest even showed up in the debug, and very little at all after the usual start up noise.

loots of script heavy mods. to many of them can freeze scenes.

I run more than that with very few issues, it really isn't about the number of mods but avoiding ones that cause issues.

This is my mod order:

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

SMPC.esp=1

SMPC Overwrite Fixes.esp=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

ApachiiHairMales.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

HentaiPregnancy.esm=1

Children+SoulGems.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

FM - HaafingarHall.esm=1

TERAArmors.esm=1

Raven UKC.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp=1

Uncapped Perks - Magic.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

Map Markers Complete.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp=1

AOS.esp=1

AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp=1

Beautiful Cities.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

Climates of Tamriel Combined.esp=1

Relighting Skyrim Combined.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Merged.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

Purewaters.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

mcCampingLite.esp=1

Dead Body Collision.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1

ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

People Have Torches.esp=1

Better Sorting Merged.esp=1

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1

RND_DLCs_Patches.esp=1

SleepTight.esp=1

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp=1

SkyrimToyStory.esp=1

Convenient Horse Herding.esp=1

My Home Is Your Home.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

ASLAL - Hearthfire Support.esp=1

BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1

CrimeDecay.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1

HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1

ItemRewardsForBounties.esp=1

no_essential_COs.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

Rebirth Monster.esp=1

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1

TradeBarter.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

NoHelmet.esp=1

Enchanting Freedom.esp=1

UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp=1

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

OblHairsCombined.esp=1

_NewHair.esp=1

HepsyHair.esp=1

HHairstyles.esp=1

AzarHair.esp=1

Hair Physics Project.esp=1

doahair.esp=1

MarieRose Wig.esp=1

MeridaHair.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

numenume Hair.esp=1

HF-MoveSpouse.esp=1

Brows.esp=1

Cherry's Eyes.esp=1

USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1

mslZaZArachnophobia.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

LaFemmeLycana.esp=1

WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp=1

Better Vampires.esp=1

Vampirelordroyal.esp=1

BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1

LFox No Werewolf Form Cooldown.esp=1

Scriptless werewolf bonus.esp=1

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp=1

TravelMounts.esp=1

Convenient Horses.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1

MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

GagSFX.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

Children+SoulGemsDragonborn.esp=1

DD - Interactions.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

SkyrimBound.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp=1

ImmerSlave.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp=1

EstrusChaurus.esp=1

SexLab Romance.esp=1

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

SexLabGenderChange.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

LoversVictim.esp=1

Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1

Devious Devices For Him.esp=1

Lanterns.esp=1

Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp=1

CrossbowsRevamped.esp=1

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1

3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp=1

3rdEraWeapMoS-rareCraft.esp=1

Differently Ebony.esp=1

Lineage 2 Crossbows.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Craft, Temper, Smelt.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

PrinceandPauper.esp=1

Gatti14Yumiko.esp=1

Spriggan Armor 2.esp=1

Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

Ballet Boots.esp=1

XiNafay - Shoes.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1

LadyKdCirclets.esp=1

Piercings_EC.esp=1

Babette.esp=1

Tes4mod.esp=1

tumblr gifts.esp=1

TS_GimpHood.esp=1

HDT Havok Object.esp=1

HSxHorseStablingCities+HF.esp=1

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1

SC_Shiny Catsuits - CD Edition.esp=1

TZ_LockingLatexHoods - CD Edition.esp=1

ZAZDeviousBindings - CD Edition.esp=1

CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp=1

Misc Jewelry.esp=1

CombinedArmorWeaponsGen.esp=1

Skyrim Expanded Loot Tables.esp=1

DD FtM - Cloaks WIC patch.esp=1

SC_Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

zzjayHentaisConversions.esp=1

LoliAlice.esp=1

BnS.esp=1

PSLacePanties.esp=1

FM - HHall Exterior.esp=1

FM - UNP Merchants.esp=1

NewmGlassRobe.esp=1

RRElphintos.esp=1

CD - TS Gimp Hood addon.esp=0

LFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.esp=0

Proper Aiming.esp=0

LFox Vendors Have Arrows.esp=0

CD - ShinyRubberCatsuitsOnly addon.esp=0

CD - Skyrim Strapon addon.esp=0

CD - ShinyRubberCatsuits addon.esp=0

yurica_summerdress [HDT].esp=1

Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp=1

Elewin Pumps.esp=1

KS Hairdo's.esp=1

12FemaleBrows.esp=1

K2 HDT Boots.esp=1

FineImperialDress.esp=1

Steel Bolts For All.esp=0

Kanrax2AntiqueClothes.esp=1

Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1

Predator Vision.esp=1

TZ_LockingLatexHoods.esp=1

yurica_chevaleresse [HDT].esp=1

Animated Fairy Wings.esp=1

Lineage 2 Shields and Sigils.esp=1

Real Flying.esp=1

GypsyEyesCaravan.esp=1

fairy.esp=1

TrueStorms.esp=1

TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp=1

zzArmormashups.esp=1

LNL.esp=1

Zipsuit.esp=1

AelididPOTW.esp=1

CarlottaValentiaHappyEnding.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp=1

ProperWeaponScale.esp=1

Stormcloaks_n_Guards_with_Face.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

enb_reference.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

Another one to look at is SexLab nude creatures, the normal setting is that it checks them every 5 seconds, try setting it to 30, that is what I run it at.

my solution was to get rid of nude creatures.^^

well its something i have noticed, without so many script heavy mods my game runs a loot better. like traping souls happens imidiadly and not 5 minutes after the mop died.

the one he shout looking at is i think mana tanks.

May 22, 2015

I read (OK I glossed) over the last 5 or so pages, looking for the messages quoting me, according to three notifications.

I'll just assume the notifications were old (I hope that's all right).

Are we still submitting suggestions?

Passive and the other thing (dominance?) were subjects of a couple of movies I saw on cable.

Apparently jaded moviegoers know that a person might actually enjoy being spanked or bound,

so the trick is to find something they DON'T enjoy, and force them to do it.

So a sub might hate caning a bound-dom, for several reasons (The dom might have thoughts of revenge).

But the third party, the sadistic onlooker, might really be getting off on it.

Wait, I didn't think this stuff up, don't go calling DHS. It's in movies they show on cable.

I thought I heard someone say "saw"

and maybe "seven"

and so many movies.

Um, kinky vs sadistic.

Nevermind, I was just thinking out loud.

I'm always thinking of the sword of Damocles whenever I come here.

----

edit:

as long as I'm ranting incoherently over in my little corner of the bizarre,

I found a synopsis of "Teen Titans", which is a cartoon for the very young:

Robin slaps the unicorns with his staff to stop them from crying which Butterbean and Sparkleface find to be a fast way to solve problems and enjoyable to watch.

So it's fine (kinky) until someone loses an eye (sadomasochistic).

I think that was clear.

*foreveraloneguy* · May 22, 2015

The script that does the scaling isn't doing any scaling on it's own. When another mod wants to set the scale on a node, it proxies that change so the different mods doing scaling will work together. It's called hookmmerse. But it does nothing on it's own. I've also followed some tests for script lag and they came back negative. If I capture a soul, pick up something, grab a butterfly, whatever, I see an immediate status update. Never noticed that nude creatures had a timer for updates. I'll go look at that.

Bottom line is this is the only mod I'm seeing a problem with, but then it's also the only mod that controls the PC instead of just giving a quest marker for where I should stand to trigger something.

Edit: we're still just staring at each other. So let's talk about what's supposed to happen in that first scene so I can understand exactly where things aren't firing....

I get transported into the embassy from the gate, the scene gets all blurry, my PC walks toward Elenwen, the guard say something that flashes by faster than I can read it, and then the scene just stops. So what's supposed to happen next? I assume this is where I'm supposed to show Elenwen the letter and box, yes?

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

The script that does the scaling isn't doing any scaling on it's own. When another mod wants to set the scale on a node, it proxies that change so the different mods doing scaling will work together. It's called hookmmerse. But it does nothing on it's own. I've also followed some tests for script lag and they came back negative. If I capture a soul, pick up something, grab a butterfly, whatever, I see an immediate status update. Never noticed that nude creatures had a timer for updates. I'll go look at that.

Bottom line is this is the only mod I'm seeing a problem with, but then it's also the only mod that controls the PC instead of just giving a quest marker for where I should stand to trigger something.

I use hookimmerse as well with no issues and I have a number of script heavy mods running (my load order is above). I do testing with the same mod setup as when I play so I can look for issues, other than a crash in the first sex scene with Elenwen and some AI pathing issues I don't have any problems at all.

There are a number of mods that do things with the surrounding npc's, some can be rather heavy handed and will pause scenes. Until I can figure out a way to have scenes ignore anything other mods do my advice is to disable them if they have the option to do so in their MCM menu (or at least reduce the frequency they do things).

*foreveraloneguy* · May 22, 2015

Well, I don't know which mods those are, so I guess I'm kind of boned. I did try turning off everything with an MCM option to disable the mod, but it didn't make any difference.

Smithnikov · May 22, 2015

Should I get brave enough to try that Thalmor Embassy quest again, any advice on how to get the script to behave after having my inventory removed, or am I just going to have to cross my fingers on it?

I have no idea why you would have issues since the moving of items is done by the 'RemoveAll' command. If you have a large inventory it may take time to do it.

It isn't that. I even tested it by storing away everything except clothes and boots before I went in (and to be frank, I didn't have much of a kit at this level), and went in with literally just those items aside from the gear I couldn't remove. Same result.

aqqh · May 22, 2015

I am looking for some ideas for dialogue or dialogue topics, my well is dry at the moment. This is what I am working on:

I am assembling the framework that will handle the scenario's where the player is the Master in the VIP house with a customer. In this the player is in complete control over what happens with the slave reacting to either dialogue or player actions. Some of what I have is:

Activators:

Furniture Catalog: will place a piece of bondage furniture in the room, just the pillory so far

Whip: gives the player a special whip that will trigger dialogue from the npc and player when the npc is hit

Shackles: will let the player chain the npc up in one of several different positions

Device Chest: This will have one of 2 sets of devices:

---> Set 1 - Devices to be used during the session (removed when done)

---> Set 2 - Devices the customer has ordered that will be placed on the slave long term (leaves with them on)

Leather Straps: Bind the slave in one of several positions

Dialogue:

Verbal Abuse:

Verbal Teasing:

Verbal Humiliation:

Verbal Slave/Master interaction: varies depending on circumstances (bound, wearing devices etc)

Command - Sex: Options for sex in specific positions, some fetish some not

Command - spanking: Position specific

Command - Physical teasing / fondling: position specific

Command - dress / undress: Will use some different fetish clothing if installed and detected or use Restrictive devices (if female)

Command - Equip Device - short term: will generally be things like the blindfold, gag, armbinder or yoke

Command - Equip Device - long term: These are cuffs, collars and chastity devices, once put on they will not come off.

* Verbal parts are dialogue portions

* Commands are to do something

Actions:

Whipping: Using the whip the player will strike the slave which will trigger dialogue on each hit (the player actually hits the npc, it is not done by a scene)

The player will be in complete control during the sessions where they are serving as the Master of the scene. Any suggestions for dialogue or things to do are appreciated. Anything should be for any npc not specific ones but can be gender specific.

Would be nice to set various slave reactions to what you do.

If slave is in just in pain player could roleplay a sadist and continue, let the slave rest for a short time or even leave the slave be.

There could be a chance that slave would get aroused by your actions.

Comment about player noticing "what kind of slut are you, slave?" could work as some humiliation / abuse.

Slave in fear might start to beg for mercy - again sadist roleplay, leave the slave be or choose some different action for example.

There might be some dialogue to enforce obedience - that you would keep abusing that slave until they would agree to submit.

Might be good to make some limits on what player can do. Be too harsh for that slave and master would force you to stop or maybe even punish you.

Bee to soft and she would start to question your ability to control others.

RegisteredUser · May 22, 2015

Just starting on the quests, specifically the delivery to Falkreath. Question: is there a known issue with another mod interfering somehow, in that Nenya reverts back to her normal appearance a few seconds after the script changes her? I.e. after stripping her she soon reverts to fully clothed, after putting restraints on they soon visually disappear, and so on. Or is that just normal behavior for Skyrim? I'm not all that familiar with the game and its mods just yet.

Mud · May 22, 2015

That's definitely not normal behavior. NPCs do reset their clothing in the base game, but that doesn't happen until the player or NPC leaves and refreshes their outfit.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I use Sexlab to strip Nenya but on a change in scene it puts her clothing back. I have an invisible blocking item made that I put on her to keep her from putting her clothes back on but it sometimes takes a moment to put on.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I am looking for some ideas for dialogue or dialogue topics, my well is dry at the moment. This is what I am working on:

I am assembling the framework that will handle the scenario's where the player is the Master in the VIP house with a customer. In this the player is in complete control over what happens with the slave reacting to either dialogue or player actions. Some of what I have is:

Activators:

Furniture Catalog: will place a piece of bondage furniture in the room, just the pillory so far

Whip: gives the player a special whip that will trigger dialogue from the npc and player when the npc is hit

Shackles: will let the player chain the npc up in one of several different positions

Device Chest: This will have one of 2 sets of devices:

---> Set 1 - Devices to be used during the session (removed when done)

---> Set 2 - Devices the customer has ordered that will be placed on the slave long term (leaves with them on)

Leather Straps: Bind the slave in one of several positions

Dialogue:

Verbal Abuse:

Verbal Teasing:

Verbal Humiliation:

Verbal Slave/Master interaction: varies depending on circumstances (bound, wearing devices etc)

Command - Sex: Options for sex in specific positions, some fetish some not

Command - spanking: Position specific

Command - Physical teasing / fondling: position specific

Command - dress / undress: Will use some different fetish clothing if installed and detected or use Restrictive devices (if female)

Command - Equip Device - short term: will generally be things like the blindfold, gag, armbinder or yoke

Command - Equip Device - long term: These are cuffs, collars and chastity devices, once put on they will not come off.

* Verbal parts are dialogue portions

* Commands are to do something

Actions:

Whipping: Using the whip the player will strike the slave which will trigger dialogue on each hit (the player actually hits the npc, it is not done by a scene)

The player will be in complete control during the sessions where they are serving as the Master of the scene. Any suggestions for dialogue or things to do are appreciated. Anything should be for any npc not specific ones but can be gender specific.

Would be nice to set various slave reactions to what you do.

If slave is in just in pain player could roleplay a sadist and continue, let the slave rest for a short time or even leave the slave be.

There could be a chance that slave would get aroused by your actions.

Comment about player noticing "what kind of slut are you, slave?" could work as some humiliation / abuse.

Slave in fear might start to beg for mercy - again sadist roleplay, leave the slave be or choose some different action for example.

There might be some dialogue to enforce obedience - that you would keep abusing that slave until they would agree to submit.

Might be good to make some limits on what player can do. Be too harsh for that slave and master would force you to stop or maybe even punish you.

Bee to soft and she would start to question your ability to control others.

I have several traits set up that will guide the reactions to actions:

1)      Sadism

a)      Low – dislikes causing pain or being abused (verbally or physically)

b ) High – Likes causing pain or abusing (verbally or physically) others

2)      Masochism

a)      Low – dislikes being in pain, abused (verbally or physically)

b ) High – likes being in pain, abused (verbally or physically)

i)        + High Bondage = likes being bound and beaten

3)      Sexuality

a)      Low – dislikes sex

b ) High – likes sex

i)        + Low Control = likes forced sex

ii)       + Low Control + High Masochism = likes being raped and assaulted

4)      Bondage

a)      Low – dislikes being bound or seeing others bound

b ) High – likes being bound or seeing others bound

i)        + Low Control = especially likes being bound

ii)       + High Control = Likes seeing others bound

iii)     + High Masochism = likes being bound and beaten

5)      Control

a)      Low – likes being under the control of others – submissive

i)        + High Bondage = especially likes being bound

b ) High – likes being in control of others – dominant

i)        + High Bondage = Likes seeing others bound

These are in addition to the standard sub/dom score. These are ranked 1-7 with 4 being neutral, the player will also have these stats set up.

These will help determine what dialogue is appropriate for each action both for the player and npc. Thanks to several contributors (Content Consumer, Jordisslave and Galgat) I have 6 pages of 1 line comments to make use of in various locations. Right now I have 10 general npc visitors and 6 slave npc visitiors as well as Tavish and his 4 slaves and a number of Skyrim npc's that I will be making use of as well (all the various customers). I figure that with all the different things that can be done and the wide selection of npc's with their different likes / dislikes and the non-linear structure of the sessions it can let you have a different experience each time.

May 22, 2015

I am looking for some ideas for dialogue or dialogue topics, my well is dry at the moment. This is what I am working on:

I am assembling the framework that will handle the scenario's where the player is the Master in the VIP house with a customer. In this the player is in complete control over what happens with the slave reacting to either dialogue or player actions. Some of what I have is:

Activators:

Furniture Catalog: will place a piece of bondage furniture in the room, just the pillory so far

Whip: gives the player a special whip that will trigger dialogue from the npc and player when the npc is hit

Shackles: will let the player chain the npc up in one of several different positions

Device Chest: This will have one of 2 sets of devices:

---> Set 1 - Devices to be used during the session (removed when done)

---> Set 2 - Devices the customer has ordered that will be placed on the slave long term (leaves with them on)

Leather Straps: Bind the slave in one of several positions

Dialogue:

Verbal Abuse:

Verbal Teasing:

Verbal Humiliation:

Verbal Slave/Master interaction: varies depending on circumstances (bound, wearing devices etc)

Command - Sex: Options for sex in specific positions, some fetish some not

Command - spanking: Position specific

Command - Physical teasing / fondling: position specific

Command - dress / undress: Will use some different fetish clothing if installed and detected or use Restrictive devices (if female)

Command - Equip Device - short term: will generally be things like the blindfold, gag, armbinder or yoke

Command - Equip Device - long term: These are cuffs, collars and chastity devices, once put on they will not come off.

* Verbal parts are dialogue portions

* Commands are to do something

Actions:

Whipping: Using the whip the player will strike the slave which will trigger dialogue on each hit (the player actually hits the npc, it is not done by a scene)

The player will be in complete control during the sessions where they are serving as the Master of the scene. Any suggestions for dialogue or things to do are appreciated. Anything should be for any npc not specific ones but can be gender specific.

Would be nice to set various slave reactions to what you do.

If slave is in just in pain player could roleplay a sadist and continue, let the slave rest for a short time or even leave the slave be.

There could be a chance that slave would get aroused by your actions.

Comment about player noticing "what kind of slut are you, slave?" could work as some humiliation / abuse.

Slave in fear might start to beg for mercy - again sadist roleplay, leave the slave be or choose some different action for example.

There might be some dialogue to enforce obedience - that you would keep abusing that slave until they would agree to submit.

Might be good to make some limits on what player can do. Be too harsh for that slave and master would force you to stop or maybe even punish you.

Bee to soft and she would start to question your ability to control others.

I'm confused about the whole sadism thing, and I wrote a post (no one noticed) a few hours ago.

"there could be a chance that slave would get aroused"

Yah but the sadist would want the opposite effect, wouldn't they? Otherwise they'd be more of a narcissist, less sadistic.

If they got rock hard staring at your gloriousness, they would satisfy your needs and wouldn't need torture.

If on the other hand you're displacing (biggie word) the slave for an ex, you'd want to whip them mercilessly and get all satisfied at the blood and the sound of the screams.

So (repeating my last post) are we talking kinky or prison-camp-style sado masochism?

It makes a difference.

Master gave me warm feelings when she says matter-of-factly that it's good having a reliable slave to do stuff.

But that never gets continued.

You could do quests til the game died, she never gets much happier.

If by some stretch of one's imagination people live to be whipped and belittled, um, I almost get it.

But if someone doesn't get all happy, I (as the person playing) can't see the point.

*Veladarius* · May 22, 2015

I am looking for some ideas for dialogue or dialogue topics, my well is dry at the moment. This is what I am working on:

I am assembling the framework that will handle the scenario's where the player is the Master in the VIP house with a customer. In this the player is in complete control over what happens with the slave reacting to either dialogue or player actions. Some of what I have is:

Activators:

Furniture Catalog: will place a piece of bondage furniture in the room, just the pillory so far

Whip: gives the player a special whip that will trigger dialogue from the npc and player when the npc is hit

Shackles: will let the player chain the npc up in one of several different positions

Device Chest: This will have one of 2 sets of devices:

---> Set 1 - Devices to be used during the session (removed when done)

---> Set 2 - Devices the customer has ordered that will be placed on the slave long term (leaves with them on)

Leather Straps: Bind the slave in one of several positions

Dialogue:

Verbal Abuse:

Verbal Teasing:

Verbal Humiliation:

Verbal Slave/Master interaction: varies depending on circumstances (bound, wearing devices etc)

Command - Sex: Options for sex in specific positions, some fetish some not

Command - spanking: Position specific

Command - Physical teasing / fondling: position specific

Command - dress / undress: Will use some different fetish clothing if installed and detected or use Restrictive devices (if female)

Command - Equip Device - short term: will generally be things like the blindfold, gag, armbinder or yoke

Command - Equip Device - long term: These are cuffs, collars and chastity devices, once put on they will not come off.

* Verbal parts are dialogue portions

* Commands are to do something

Actions:

Whipping: Using the whip the player will strike the slave which will trigger dialogue on each hit (the player actually hits the npc, it is not done by a scene)

The player will be in complete control during the sessions where they are serving as the Master of the scene. Any suggestions for dialogue or things to do are appreciated. Anything should be for any npc not specific ones but can be gender specific.

Would be nice to set various slave reactions to what you do.

If slave is in just in pain player could roleplay a sadist and continue, let the slave rest for a short time or even leave the slave be.

There could be a chance that slave would get aroused by your actions.

Comment about player noticing "what kind of slut are you, slave?" could work as some humiliation / abuse.

Slave in fear might start to beg for mercy - again sadist roleplay, leave the slave be or choose some different action for example.

There might be some dialogue to enforce obedience - that you would keep abusing that slave until they would agree to submit.

Might be good to make some limits on what player can do. Be too harsh for that slave and master would force you to stop or maybe even punish you.

Bee to soft and she would start to question your ability to control others.

I'm confused about the whole sadism thing, and I wrote a post (no one noticed) a few hours ago.

"there could be a chance that slave would get aroused"

Yah but the sadist would want the opposite effect, wouldn't they? Otherwise they'd be more of a narcissist, less sadistic.

If they got rock hard staring at your gloriousness, they would satisfy your needs and wouldn't need torture.

If on the other hand you're displacing (biggie word) the slave for an ex, you'd want to whip them mercilessly and get all satisfied at the blood and the sound of the screams.

So (repeating my last post) are we talking kinky or prison-camp-style sado masochism?

It makes a difference.

Master gave me warm feelings when she says matter-of-factly that it's good having a reliable slave to do stuff.

But that never gets continued.

You could do quests til the game died, she never gets much happier.

If by some stretch of one's imagination people live to be whipped and belittled, um, I almost get it.

But if someone doesn't get all happy, I (as the person playing) can't see the point.

That sadism is more of the extreme end of things, there are many different flavors of sadism just like any other fetish. They could enjoy teasing / denial play, verbal humiliation / degradation or playing 'games' with them (bind and blindfold them and make them wait for what is next). Unfortunately most associate it with beating the crap out of someone and unless they are a major masochist it will not end well. Most of these scenes I am making are voluntary sessions, the npc is a client and has come for a session so pleasing them is the top priority. There will be some that are punishments, these will either be directed at the player (screws up) or a specific npc (story driven). If someone wants to just beat the crap out of whomever they want and torture them for fun they can look elsewhere, I won't be doing anything like that.

With the Master, at this point the player has been someone they have hired to do jobs. While she has started to get an opinion of the player (likes or dislikes them) she only shows her business side to them, v4 will show she is not just bitch who can shove and icicle up her ass and not have it melt.

*Gameplayer* · May 22, 2015

I'd like to see that icicle thing happen.

I'm kinda disappointed master isn't going to wear a lockable zipsuit.

Tajak598 · May 22, 2015

I'm having quite a problem with the Elenwen quest. It keeps crashing at the point where the guard takes you away to the Solar. I reinstalled the mod. How to advance or fix this bug?

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