Veladarius Posted September 28, 2014 Author Posted September 28, 2014 The way I have written it is the Master notices your disappointment at not getting a belt and offers it to you.
Trash Metal Barbie Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 You are so a dom xD , you can tell >.<
aqqh Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Could be made that dom would have dialogue option to demand "No belt!" way earlier than sub.
sashalag Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 - You have a ranking for how well you do as a courier. Each success increases it by 1 and each failure decreases it by 1. Get a high enough rank and you don't have to wear a belt. This is the best update. xD Just saying my two cents, so you know not everyone here likes to wear chastity belts. At least there´s one that don´t like them (me) So...I will try to be a good courier...
sashalag Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 I am testing the delivery quest now and fixing the little bugs at this point. Some of the changes are: - You have a ranking for how well you do as a courier. Each success increases it by 1 and each failure decreases it by 1. Get a high enough rank and you don't have to wear a belt. As you can see there are quite a few enhancements. Personally, that bit isn't an enhancement... Couldn't it be made so it depends if you are a submissive or not? So a submissive would always get the belt or something... Just a little observation, I really appreciate your mod anyway. I think a real submissive (wanting one) doesn´t need achastity belt, so is more likely the dominant ones will be wearing it...don´t you think? just asking...
Slorm Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Personally I prefer the belt for the courier missions as it gives the mission an edge. I'm of a view that Master would not care what a sub wanted so the pc would take what they are given. Rather than a dialogue maybe make it an MCM option instead, as being a sub does not mean being suicidal. The belt can severely hamper a pc's ability so I don't think it's something you would ask for knowing that wearing it can potentially kill you.
kurotatsu Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 The way I have written it is the Master notices your disappointment at not getting a belt and offers it to you. Great idea! And here's another one, for masochist kind of player - when ranking is high, submissive players can answer something like "just collar and belt? no problem at all, i can handle much more!". Master can offer a bit of more challenge, adding some more custom restraints, with increased reward for completing delivery. The heaviest might be complete helpless pony girl suit
formanfred Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 my girls a sub and likes being made to wear a belt
formanfred Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 The way I have written it is the Master notices your disappointment at not getting a belt and offers it to you. Great idea! And here's another one, for masochist kind of player - when ranking is high, submissive players can answer something like "just collar and belt? no problem at all, i can handle much more!". Master can offer a bit of more challenge, adding some more custom restraints, with increased reward for completing delivery. The heaviest might be complete helpless pony girl suit I like these idea's , but what ever Vel does will be great
Buddy Christ Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 From a bdsm perspective if a sub requests something of his / her dom / master theyre bang out of line anyway and would most likely be punished for being suggestive , its not their place to do so (learnt that the hard way ) as it effectively is taking control of the situation in a sense :3 I can see why people have the opinions they do for playability , but a lot of the dialogue and interactions in this mod so far are very close to the bdsm / fet lifestyle. Perks for a Dom of going without yeah sounds cool , For a Sub - Take what you get & like it xD Its just the way it is :3 Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom? If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!"
Slorm Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking
Veladarius Posted September 28, 2014 Author Posted September 28, 2014 Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking Adding things like boots, armbinders, gags or blindfolds severely hampers the ability to perform your job, especially if you have to fight 6 bandits at once (tough to do with just the belt).
Trash Metal Barbie Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking ^ This is a pretty cool idea :3 , do you dare , dont you dare , is it or isnt it worth it xD, and i forgot you mentioned you increased the potential no. of bandits along with a host of other stuff , tbh im mostly just keeping a weather eye out for when the next versions available :3 seems like its a pretty massive expansion
abeman Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Hello, happy to see so much progress in this mod. Definetly going to get this mod when it comes out but i`ve wondered that now i have fillherup-mod , sexlab-attraction and -approach installed, so its safe to say that those are going to be a problem with this mod?
kronnos44 Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 my girls a sub and likes being made to wear a belt That is actually really nice too know , thank you for that.
KeplerZeroFive Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Does anyone here use Gifts of the Outsider? I added this mod, but when I go to the abandoned house and start the quest, it seems like The Outsider is greeting me with what sounds like The Master's lines.
Slorm Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking Adding things like boots, armbinders, gags or blindfolds severely hampers the ability to perform your job, especially if you have to fight 6 bandits at once (tough to do with just the belt). Well... the asking is a calculated risk, so if you don't want to risk it then don't ask. I like the idea as it puts the choice squarely in the hands of the player. I do think some items like blindfolds and armbinders should not be fitted as the effect on the pc is then far too harsh but cuffs and the other items should be okay. EDIT: Just to keep it in bounds maybe fit only one extra device if the speech check is failed
Veladarius Posted September 28, 2014 Author Posted September 28, 2014 Does anyone here use Gifts of the Outsider? I added this mod, but when I go to the abandoned house and start the quest, it seems like The Outsider is greeting me with what sounds like The Master's lines. They would have to be linked to directly then, her dialogue uses a single greeting point which is set with conditions limiting it to her specifically.
KeplerZeroFive Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Veladarius, on 28 Sept 2014 - 10:04 AM, said: SebbyK, on 28 Sept 2014 - 09:27 AM, said: Does anyone here use Gifts of the Outsider? I added this mod, but when I go to the abandoned house and start the quest, it seems like The Outsider is greeting me with what sounds like The Master's lines. They would have to be linked to directly then, her dialogue uses a single greeting point which is set with conditions limiting it to her specifically. When I open the book to be teleported, The Outsider greets me with these:
CliftonJD Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) The way I have written it is the Master notices your disappointment at not getting a belt and offers it to you. Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking Adding things like boots, armbinders, gags or blindfolds severely hampers the ability to perform your job, especially if you have to fight 6 bandits at once (tough to do with just the belt). Well... the asking is a calculated risk, so if you don't want to risk it then don't ask. I like the idea as it puts the choice squarely in the hands of the player. I do think some items like blindfolds and armbinders should not be fitted as the effect on the pc is then far too harsh but cuffs and the other items should be okay. EDIT: Just to keep it in bounds maybe fit only one extra device if the speech check is failed both of those ideas sound good to me Veladarius, on 28 Sept 2014 - 10:04 AM, said: SebbyK, on 28 Sept 2014 - 09:27 AM, said: Does anyone here use Gifts of the Outsider? I added this mod, but when I go to the abandoned house and start the quest, it seems like The Outsider is greeting me with what sounds like The Master's lines. They would have to be linked to directly then, her dialogue uses a single greeting point which is set with conditions limiting it to her specifically. When I open the book to be teleported, The Outsider greets me with these:<script pagespeed_no_defer="" src="http://www.loverslab.com/_,Mjo.Ty24kgY2e5.js.pagespeed.jm.cbKxR1dmtT.js"></script>2014-09-28_00001.jpg2014-09-28_00002.jpg looks like a nice mod on the page, but doesn't show any relation to DD or the CD shop or even sexlab on the page or in the video very strange corelation there unforunately there's no requirements list either would suggest if you still have the save before opening the book, try reversing them in load order and see if that changes things Edit: also if that works, you might expect some strange results back at the shop as well, it looks like some strange conflicts with the dialog grabber used for the mod Edited September 28, 2014 by CliftonJD
Veladarius Posted September 28, 2014 Author Posted September 28, 2014 The way I have written it is the Master notices your disappointment at not getting a belt and offers it to you. Hmm, how about a speech check if the sub tries topping from the bottom?If the sub passes, belt it is, if the sub fails, punishment and a different device are the consequences. "You have been a bad girl, no belt for you! Here are some arm binders instead. And a good whipping before you go! And don't lose the package. Off you go now!" This looks a great idea, though I would suggest tweaking it, so that if the pc asks Master not to fit a belt and they pass the speech check then they get away without the belt, but if they fail then they get the belt and some other devices (random selection) as well (and a damned good whipping as well). This adds a nice element of risk in the act of asking Adding things like boots, armbinders, gags or blindfolds severely hampers the ability to perform your job, especially if you have to fight 6 bandits at once (tough to do with just the belt). Well... the asking is a calculated risk, so if you don't want to risk it then don't ask. I like the idea as it puts the choice squarely in the hands of the player. I do think some items like blindfolds and armbinders should not be fitted as the effect on the pc is then far too harsh but cuffs and the other items should be okay. EDIT: Just to keep it in bounds maybe fit only one extra device if the speech check is failed both of those ideas sound good to me Veladarius, on 28 Sept 2014 - 10:04 AM, said: SebbyK, on 28 Sept 2014 - 09:27 AM, said: Does anyone here use Gifts of the Outsider? I added this mod, but when I go to the abandoned house and start the quest, it seems like The Outsider is greeting me with what sounds like The Master's lines. They would have to be linked to directly then, her dialogue uses a single greeting point which is set with conditions limiting it to her specifically. When I open the book to be teleported, The Outsider greets me with these:<script pagespeed_no_defer="" src="http://www.loverslab.com/_,Mjo.Ty24kgY2e5.js.pagespeed.jm.cbKxR1dmtT.js"></script>2014-09-28_00001.jpg2014-09-28_00002.jpg looks like a nice mod on the page, but doesn't show any relation to DD or the CD shop or even sexlab on the page or in the video very strange corelation there unforunately there's no requirements list either would suggest if you still have the save before opening the book, try reversing them in load order and see if that changes things Edit: also if that works, you might expect some strange results back at the shop as well, it looks like some strange conflicts with the dialog grabber used for the mod The dialogue there is from the end of the punishment scene in the basement, the dialogue is set as a force greet but is not top level dialogue. The only way to get to it should be by directly linking to it otherwise it would show up in all npc's dialogue. It it likely something not set correctly on the force greet package in that mod that is letting it pick up my dialogue. I have removed the force greet indicator from mine so that may keep that from happening on my side.
Trash Metal Barbie Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Argh , i give up for the night , just spent the last 3 hours trying to escape bondage xD i did not think - masses, cursed , submit , helpless & CD would bind me so hard xD , fatal mistake, doing a delivery quest and ending up with a high arousal xD , 50k in debt to master & wrapped up like a Christmas present with a freaking custom harness under the CD belt ~.~.... this is gonna take an aaaage to escape xD I have never seen a collective as well put together as the Devious stuff. Thanks for all the work you put in Veladarius its really appreciated.
sh4peshift3r Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 I like the idea of getting an armbinder or similar for a delivery quest, but I think it should be a special separate quest where you'd be used by the recipient. Perhaps a delivery to Mr. Tavish?
fred200 Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Just to add a counterpoint - I fired up Outsider with Captured Dreams, ran it through locating all runes... and had no dialogue anomalies. All working correctly.
LatexLuger Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 Okay, so, I've played three different saves with this mod installed and ran into three different problems: - First save: my inventory and map weren't coming up despite not wearing anything. - Second save: Even with the keys, the chastity items weren't coming off. - Third save: I can't even start the dialog with the Master in the shop. She just does the default "You want something from me" audio, but no menu. I don't understand Papyrus logs well enough to figure out where the issue might be, but I attached the one of me trying to talk to the Master.
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