Devious Devices - Captured Dreams Shop v4.15 - files removed

bleeargh · June 3, 2014

So Serana and I were in Fellglow Keep on an unrelated quest. In the process of killing the bandit leader, Serana uses her animate corpse spell. To my dismay, I realize she has re-animated one of the couriers that you have placed in various points throughout Skyrim. The courier is now a sad little pile of ash. Will this cause problems later with the retrieval quests?

Selenia · June 3, 2014

The quest asks me to go from 10 to 10 days.
I go and nothing happens ... Third time.

TheOzoneHole · June 3, 2014

Vel, short of going back to a save before doing the Assist Customer quest, is there any way for us to fix this in game? You're saying it deals with force greets, so that actually sounds like a bug on the Skyrim end.

PubliusNV · June 3, 2014

There was a bug a while back in the xaz Prison Overhaul mod that prevented the player from using any crafting station (the PC would start to lower him/herself to the enchanting table, for example, then would stand up again). Is this the same kind of problem? I think xaz said it had to do with a script attached to the PC (but I might not be remembering correctly). Have you talked to xaz about it?

The issue with prison overhaul was the Bounty Hunter, they were set to do a force greet on the player but if it started but never completed then Skyrim thought it was still trying and interrupting the animations as it though the player was being talked to. As for scripts attached to the player, I don't do any of them. All the animations and such that I do are through the scenes where a lot of others use scripts. I am thinking it has to do with the force greets, scenes and the way they move to the next stage of a quest. I am trying something so the last stage of the scene is not a force greet as it is now, among a number of other things.

You're the modder and I'm not, I'm just trying to help. The bug did have to do with the Bounty Hunter. In my case the bounty hunter force greeted my PC, they fought, and she killed him. After that she was unable to do any crafting. So to me, as a user, it looked as if the force greet had completed. Maybe not, I don't know how that works.

laz0r · June 3, 2014

Maybe someone else has had this problem, but when you fail the delivery quest and are punished, the person who is supposed to whip you takes out the whip and then sheaths it right after he takes it out. Then the Master and the dude just stare at you indefinitely.

Is there any way around this?

kalas13 · June 3, 2014

Im having some problem whith Assist a Customer , some other mod must be interfering .

Wen the event starts and pc shode be taken over by scrips and moved into position sonthing buggs.

The char instead starts walking out of the house then folows the road to a fortress gows inside moves true it then exits and eventualy stops in the midel of the outpost .

Its really weird

o and the movement looks more like exploring because it sometimes wanders of the road only to after a short time return to the road and continue to the destination

If you know any of the mods that mith be the culprit chode you say so i can test to see if i can fix ?

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

Vel, short of going back to a save before doing the Assist Customer quest, is there any way for us to fix this in game? You're saying it deals with force greets, so that actually sounds like a bug on the Skyrim end.

I had the force greet issue with the assistants from the quest, one of them was set to come tell you to go see the Master and it was supposed to end once it was done or the stage hit 50 or higher (you had spoken to the Master). The changes I made to the assistants package stopped it from happening so once it is fixed it should stop for you. I have a number of changes to the end of the quest so that the force greet is not the last AI Package to be done by the Master and I am completely stopping and restarting the quest. The reset button in the MCM menu will also reset it this way as well.

There was a bug a while back in the xaz Prison Overhaul mod that prevented the player from using any crafting station (the PC would start to lower him/herself to the enchanting table, for example, then would stand up again). Is this the same kind of problem? I think xaz said it had to do with a script attached to the PC (but I might not be remembering correctly). Have you talked to xaz about it?

The issue with prison overhaul was the Bounty Hunter, they were set to do a force greet on the player but if it started but never completed then Skyrim thought it was still trying and interrupting the animations as it though the player was being talked to. As for scripts attached to the player, I don't do any of them. All the animations and such that I do are through the scenes where a lot of others use scripts. I am thinking it has to do with the force greets, scenes and the way they move to the next stage of a quest. I am trying something so the last stage of the scene is not a force greet as it is now, among a number of other things.

You're the modder and I'm not, I'm just trying to help. The bug did have to do with the Bounty Hunter. In my case the bounty hunter force greeted my PC, they fought, and she killed him. After that she was unable to do any crafting. So to me, as a user, it looked as if the force greet had completed. Maybe not, I don't know how that works.

The AI Packages are very picky on how they are set up, I had issues with the whipping package where changing the number of times the player was whipped resulted in either nothing happening to the game actually crashing. Also, sometimes during the scene with Tavish if you try to hurry the dialogue along it will react as if you had not made the choice you wanted.

I had found some other issues with the end of the quest, specifically with the removal and replacement of the items for high debt. Once this is sorted out I will release it, most likely sometime today.

laz0r · June 3, 2014

As an addition to the previous post I made, I've tested out all the features of this mod and they all work with the exception of one. The only thing I can't seem to get working is the punishment scene that activates when you fail to complete the delivery quest.

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

As an addition to the previous post I made, I've tested out all the features of this mod and they all work with the exception of one. The only thing I can't seem to get working is the punishment scene that activates when you fail to complete the delivery quest.

What exactly is happening?

Coopervane · June 3, 2014

What exactly is happening?

I'm guessing the same thing that happens for me:

You are sent to the post at the display area, the Master and guard follow you and tell you to strip when you get there, the guard casts a spell on you that initiates a ZaZ suspended anim and locks the players controls, the guard tells you something about behaving yourself in the store whilst unsheathing his cane.. but then he instantly sheathes it again, the master and guard just stand there staring blankly at you, and nothing else ever happens.

At this point the game breaks, you can't move, talk or do anything, and the scene is utterly stuck, he never starts whipping you like i assume he is supposed to, because for some reason, he is sheathing his weapon as soon as he has unsheathed it (sometimes the unsheathe anim doesen't even fully finish before he starts sheathing it again).

mybrainhurts · June 3, 2014

I had found some other issues with the end of the quest, specifically with the removal and replacement of the items for high debt. Once this is sorted out I will release it, most likely sometime today.

Good, because I'm now stuck in CD custom bra and leg cuffs and nothing works to get rid of them.

I also noticed something strange about my inventory. If I check via console with "inv", it sez I have things that I do not (Mammoth snout, e.g.) Looking at inventory normally I do not see mammoth snout, but it shows me having 100 chastity keys and restraints keys each. Actually I should have only 1 or 2 of each.

Finally, these devices are stacking, as in wearing 2 plugs simultaneously for the same slot.

June 3, 2014

What exactly is happening?

I'm guessing the same thing that happens for me:

You are sent to the post at the display area, the Master and guard follow you and tell you to strip when you get there, the guard casts a spell on you that initiates a ZaZ suspended anim and locks the players controls, the guard tells you something about behaving yourself in the store whilst unsheathing his cane.. but then he instantly sheathes it again, the master and guard just stand there staring blankly at you, and nothing else ever happens.

At this point the game breaks, you can't move, talk or do anything, and the scene is utterly stuck, he never starts whipping you like i assume he is supposed to, because for some reason, he is sheathing his weapon as soon as he has unsheathed it (sometimes the unsheathe anim doesen't even fully finish before he starts sheathing it again).

Same for me too, but only occasionally.

Kain1978 · June 3, 2014

Hey Veladarius,

first of all it's a great mod you are working on.

Here are few bugs I noticed (v.2.72):

1. Punishment after failing the delivery quest:

When the guard is suppose to start whipping the player and I moved the camera before or while he is doing so he stops or doesn't even start. Maybe it helps you to reproduce the problem. If i do not move the mouse at all it always works.

2. Plugs are not getting removed after delivery quest is done. RemoveCDPlugs() is getting called but does not remove them. You might wanna take a look at this. Wrong references?

3. Tavish's plug(s) are not getting equipped correctly. Previous standard plugs remain in the player. (Checking for plug sets?)

Function TavishItems()
	framework.removecdbelt()
	framework.removecdcollar()
	framework.removecdplugs()
	if playerref.isequipped(Ironbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Beltiron, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Paddedbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Beltpadded, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(openbackbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.beltpaddedopen, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(harness)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.harnessbody, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(posturecollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.collarposture, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(paddedcollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.cuffspaddedcollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(leathercollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.cuffsleathercollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(harnesscollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.harnesscollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Primitiveplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.plugprimitive, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Ironplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Plugiron, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(soulgemplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.plugsoulgem, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(inflatableplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.pluginflatable, false)
	Endif
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishVagplug, TavishVagplugrend, libs.Zad_Deviousplugvaginal, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishOBbelt2, TavishOBBbeltrend, libs.Zad_Deviousbelt, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, Tavishcollar, tavishcollarrend, libs.Zad_Deviouscollar, true)
	int Longbelted = longtermbelt.getvalueint()
	if longbelted == 1
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(3)
	else
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(2)
	endif
Endfunction

Shouldn't the function look something like this? Since there is a function for std. plugs given in the Framework class. (Single point of control)

CDxCustomerAssist01

Function TavishItems()
	framework.removecdbelt()
	framework.removecdcollar()
	framework.removecdplugs()
	framework.RemoveStandardBelt()
	framework.RemoveStandardCollar()
	framework.RemoveStandardPlugs()
	
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishVagplug, TavishVagplugrend, libs.Zad_Deviousplugvaginal, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishOBbelt2, TavishOBBbeltrend, libs.Zad_Deviousbelt, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, Tavishcollar, tavishcollarrend, libs.Zad_Deviouscollar, true)
	int Longbelted = longtermbelt.getvalueint()
	if longbelted == 1
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(3)
	else
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(2)
	endif
Endfunction

CDxFramework

Function RemoveStandardplugs()
	if !playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_blockgeneric)
		If playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_deviousplugvaginal)
			libs.ManipulateGenericDeviceByKeyword(playerref, libs.zad_deviousplugvaginal, false, true)
		endif
		If playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_deviouspluganal)
			libs.ManipulateGenericDeviceByKeyword(playerref, libs.zad_deviouspluganal, false, true)
		endif
	endif
EndFunction

laz0r · June 3, 2014

What exactly is happening?

I'm guessing the same thing that happens for me:

You are sent to the post at the display area, the Master and guard follow you and tell you to strip when you get there, the guard casts a spell on you that initiates a ZaZ suspended anim and locks the players controls, the guard tells you something about behaving yourself in the store whilst unsheathing his cane.. but then he instantly sheathes it again, the master and guard just stand there staring blankly at you, and nothing else ever happens.

At this point the game breaks, you can't move, talk or do anything, and the scene is utterly stuck, he never starts whipping you like i assume he is supposed to, because for some reason, he is sheathing his weapon as soon as he has unsheathed it (sometimes the unsheathe anim doesen't even fully finish before he starts sheathing it again).

Exactly this.

Kain1978 · June 3, 2014

What exactly is happening?

I'm guessing the same thing that happens for me:

You are sent to the post at the display area, the Master and guard follow you and tell you to strip when you get there, the guard casts a spell on you that initiates a ZaZ suspended anim and locks the players controls, the guard tells you something about behaving yourself in the store whilst unsheathing his cane.. but then he instantly sheathes it again, the master and guard just stand there staring blankly at you, and nothing else ever happens.

At this point the game breaks, you can't move, talk or do anything, and the scene is utterly stuck, he never starts whipping you like i assume he is supposed to, because for some reason, he is sheathing his weapon as soon as he has unsheathed it (sometimes the unsheathe anim doesen't even fully finish before he starts sheathing it again).

Exactly this.

Did you try not to move your mouse at all? That's how the scene works for me

Coopervane · June 3, 2014

Did you try not to move your mouse at all? That's how the scene works for me

No i have not, and yeah i probably did move the camera when i tried it last. I'd give it a try and not touch the mouse, but i don't have a save that i could do that with right now, unfortunately.

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

What exactly is happening?

I'm guessing the same thing that happens for me:

You are sent to the post at the display area, the Master and guard follow you and tell you to strip when you get there, the guard casts a spell on you that initiates a ZaZ suspended anim and locks the players controls, the guard tells you something about behaving yourself in the store whilst unsheathing his cane.. but then he instantly sheathes it again, the master and guard just stand there staring blankly at you, and nothing else ever happens.

At this point the game breaks, you can't move, talk or do anything, and the scene is utterly stuck, he never starts whipping you like i assume he is supposed to, because for some reason, he is sheathing his weapon as soon as he has unsheathed it (sometimes the unsheathe anim doesen't even fully finish before he starts sheathing it again).

Same for me too, but only occasionally.

Something is trying to interrupt the scene. I have scripts in the scene to equip and draw the cane at specific points just before the whipping starts and to sheathe it afterwards.

Hey Veladarius,

first of all it's a great mod you are working on.

Here are few bugs I noticed (v.2.72):

1. Punishment after failing the delivery quest:

When the guard is suppose to start whipping the player and I moved the camera before or while he is doing so he stops or doesn't even start. Maybe it helps you to reproduce the problem. If i do not move the mouse at all it always works.

2. Plugs are not getting removed after delivery quest is done. RemoveCDPlugs() is getting called but does not remove them. You might wanna take a look at this. Wrong references?

3. Tavish's plug(s) are not getting equipped correctly. Previous standard plugs remain in the player. (Checking for plug sets?)



Function TavishItems()
	framework.removecdbelt()
	framework.removecdcollar()
	framework.removecdplugs()
	if playerref.isequipped(Ironbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Beltiron, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Paddedbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Beltpadded, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(openbackbelt)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.beltpaddedopen, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(harness)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.harnessbody, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(posturecollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.collarposture, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(paddedcollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.cuffspaddedcollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(leathercollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.cuffsleathercollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(harnesscollar)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.harnesscollar, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Primitiveplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.plugprimitive, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(Ironplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.Plugiron, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(soulgemplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.plugsoulgem, false)
	Endif
	if playerref.isequipped(inflatableplug)
		libs.ManipulateDevice(Playerref, libs.pluginflatable, false)
	Endif
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishVagplug, TavishVagplugrend, libs.Zad_Deviousplugvaginal, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishOBbelt2, TavishOBBbeltrend, libs.Zad_Deviousbelt, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, Tavishcollar, tavishcollarrend, libs.Zad_Deviouscollar, true)
	int Longbelted = longtermbelt.getvalueint()
	if longbelted == 1
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(3)
	else
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(2)
	endif
Endfunction

Shouldn't the function look something like this? Since there is a function for std. plugs given in the Framework class. (Single point of control)



CDxCustomerAssist01

Function TavishItems()
	framework.removecdbelt()
	framework.removecdcollar()
	framework.removecdplugs()
	framework.RemoveStandardBelt()
	framework.RemoveStandardCollar()
	framework.RemoveStandardPlugs()
	
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishVagplug, TavishVagplugrend, libs.Zad_Deviousplugvaginal, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, TavishOBbelt2, TavishOBBbeltrend, libs.Zad_Deviousbelt, true)
	libs.EquipDevice(PlayerRef, Tavishcollar, tavishcollarrend, libs.Zad_Deviouscollar, true)
	int Longbelted = longtermbelt.getvalueint()
	if longbelted == 1
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(3)
	else
		longtermbelt.setvalueint(2)
	endif
Endfunction



CDxFramework

Function RemoveStandardplugs()
	if !playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_blockgeneric)
		If playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_deviousplugvaginal)
			libs.ManipulateGenericDeviceByKeyword(playerref, libs.zad_deviousplugvaginal, false, true)
		endif
		If playerref.wornhaskeyword(libs.zad_deviouspluganal)
			libs.ManipulateGenericDeviceByKeyword(playerref, libs.zad_deviouspluganal, false, true)
		endif
	endif
EndFunction

1- I don't know what is interrupting the scene for the punishment or any of the others, I can run through them repeatedly with no issues. The scenes are set that if something interrupts them once it is done the scene should continue but if whatever interrupts it stops then everything stops. If I could set the scenes so no others could interrupt I would.

2- I had to change a property in the CD plugs as they were still set as a plug set not individual plugs. It is pulling them for me now and was a rather recent change.

3- Yes. A number of the commands for adding / removing standard items are new and I had not put them into place everywhere as of yet. There are probably other places where they have not been put in place yet either.

kalas13 · June 3, 2014

Im having some problem whith Assist a Customer , some other mod must be interfering .

Wen the event starts and pc shode be taken over by scrips and moved into position sonthing buggs.

The char instead starts walking out of the house then folows the road to a fortress gows inside moves true it then exits and eventualy stops in the midel of the outpost .

Its really weird

o and the movement looks more like exploring because it sometimes wanders of the road only to after a short time return to the road and continue to the destination

If you know any of the mods that mith be the culprit chode you say so i can test to see if i can fix ?

any idear on how to fix it?

Kain1978 · June 3, 2014

3- Yes. A number of the commands for adding / removing standard items are new and I had not put them into place everywhere as of yet. There are probably other places where they have not been put in place yet either.

It was just an advice for your programming skills. If you make a function for something, use it all the time. In case that anything in the API changes you have to change it at one location and not in 50 different classes/scripts

1- I don't know what is interrupting the scene for the punishment or any of the others, I can run through them repeatedly with no issues. The scenes are set that if something interrupts them once it is done the scene should continue but if whatever interrupts it stops then everything stops. If I could set the scenes so no others could interrupt I would.

Just wanted you to know that if I do not turn my camera the scene always succeeds. In case I do, I end up stuck like other people here in the forum

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

Im having some problem whith Assist a Customer , some other mod must be interfering .

Wen the event starts and pc shode be taken over by scrips and moved into position sonthing buggs.

The char instead starts walking out of the house then folows the road to a fortress gows inside moves true it then exits and eventualy stops in the midel of the outpost .

Its really weird

o and the movement looks more like exploring because it sometimes wanders of the road only to after a short time return to the road and continue to the destination

If you know any of the mods that mith be the culprit chode you say so i can test to see if i can fix ?

any idear on how to fix it?

I have seen npc's do similar things where they are walking down the road then wander off for a bit then come back to the road, I think it is either Inconsequential NPC or there is another one that adds npc's that travel the roads.

Something you may want to try is move Captured Dreams as far down in the load order as you can.

Coopervane · June 3, 2014

Something is trying to interrupt the scene. I have scripts in the scene to equip and draw the cane at specific points just before the whipping starts and to sheathe it afterwards.

The scene plays out inside the shop, there's no chance of a random wolf attack or anything else external, there's just what's in the shop.

I think Kain1978 may be right that it's moving the camera that does it. If he can reproduce this, and it allways works if he doesen't move the mouse, and always fails if he does, then thats a solid lead atleast.

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

3- Yes. A number of the commands for adding / removing standard items are new and I had not put them into place everywhere as of yet. There are probably other places where they have not been put in place yet either.

It was just an advice for your programming skills. If you make a function for something, use it all the time. In case that anything in the API changes you have to change it at one location and not in 50 different classes/scripts

1- I don't know what is interrupting the scene for the punishment or any of the others, I can run through them repeatedly with no issues. The scenes are set that if something interrupts them once it is done the scene should continue but if whatever interrupts it stops then everything stops. If I could set the scenes so no others could interrupt I would.

Just wanted you to know that if I do not turn my camera the scene always succeeds. In case I do, I end up stuck like other people here in the forum

I plan on updating the rest of the scripts with the commands once I get this issue sorted out. There are several other functions I want to make to hopefully make some other things a bit easier.

It is odd that the camera movement would interrupt the scene, I usually move the camera around on that scene since my view is usually from behind so I turn it around. I wonder if it is related to the force greet issue since this punishment has been in place for some time and has not been changed.

Edit: Can you upload a papyrus log?

*Veladarius* · June 3, 2014

I am getting ready to upload a new patch. I have changed how the scene ends a bit (you won't see any real difference) and how it resets. There were a few other issues I fixed as well.

kalas13 · June 3, 2014

thx, gona try that and now that you sed that i think i have a mod that adds some npc slaves and slavers on the map , gona try to deactivate .

Btw thx fore creating this mode it was fun playing whith it

YumiChan19 · June 3, 2014

I don't understand why people are having so many issues. I have been playing without any problems, and on several saves new and old. Honestly i don't think the problem is captured dreams I think it others mods interfering with it and or people not having all of the correct versions of the requirements.

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