Sexlab Sexual Fame RELOADED

[applesandmayo]

On 10/5/2024 at 5:37 PM, NymphoElf said:

 

New game/clean save shouldn't be required, so try without new game first. And papyrus only logs your current session, so it should be a new log regardless.

Updated, ran on a save with existing fame, still seems to be scanning a lot. In about 90 minutes, 840 matches for 'FameOverviewCheck - Location: -EMPTY-'.

Papyrus.0.log

[NymphoElf]

10 minutes ago, applesandmayo said:

840 matches for 'FameOverviewCheck - Location: -EMPTY-'.

 

Location: -EMPTY- is normal. These are unregistered Custom Locations.

 

Also, my math on how frequently this update is sent vs how long in real time it should take was wrong in my earlier post. 30 minutes of In-game time is a minute and a half, and I can see that these logs correctly reflect that. So the mod is working as intended. I can only recommend turning off Tracing to reduce logging from SLSF Reloaded for the time being, but since it's running well I'll start incorporating a trace disabler for 1.4.

 

Thank you for your patience.

[applesandmayo]

11 minutes ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Location: -EMPTY- is normal. These are unregistered Custom Locations.

 

Also, my math on how frequently this update is sent vs how long in real time it should take was wrong in my earlier post. 30 minutes of In-game time is a minute and a half, and I can see that these logs correctly reflect that. So the mod is working as intended. I can only recommend turning off Tracing to reduce logging from SLSF Reloaded for the time being, but since it's running well I'll start incorporating a trace disabler for 1.4.

 

Thank you for your patience.

No problem, thank you for your time!

[B3juc0]

On my end on SLSF 1.4, no issues, no suspended stacks, no errors.

 

Mind you while testing I had a few Babo Dialogue/Approach forcegreet/combat, mixed with SL Survival shenanigans, SL Defeat plus whatever else you can thing stresses the papyrus (I thought I would have suspended stacks) but I had no issues after checking the save with resaver.

[NymphoElf]

6 hours ago, B3juc0 said:

On my end on SLSF 1.4, no issues, no suspended stacks, no errors.

 

Mind you while testing I had a few Babo Dialogue/Approach forcegreet/combat, mixed with SL Survival shenanigans, SL Defeat plus whatever else you can thing stresses the papyrus (I thought I would have suspended stacks) but I had no issues after checking the save with resaver.

 

This is great to know! It seems I finally found a good balance for the mod's scripts and resolved every bug reported so far. Hopefully this will be one of the last updates before the mod is considered complete!

 

Thank you for your diligence and patience!

[osculim]

On 10/6/2024 at 5:43 PM, NymphoElf said:

 

What version of the mod were you using when it happened?

was on 1.2 then moved to 1.3 havent had that happen again but now I have an issue where I cannot see the detailed fame view in the mcm. I see you posted 1.4 I will update and see if that fixes it

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, osculim said:

was on 1.2 then moved to 1.3 havent had that happen again but now I have an issue where I cannot see the detailed fame view in the mcm. I see you posted 1.4 I will update and see if that fixes it

 

Did you make sure to do a clean save from 1.2 to 1.3? Depending on when you updated, I might not have posted the Cleaning Instructions because I had not figured them out yet. If you didn't do a proper clean save (or didn't start a new game) before using 1.3, you will need to do so otherwise you will probably still encounter problems - even if you try updating to 1.4. This is because there will still be leftovers from 1.2 (or older) that need to be removed if you didn't clean save or start a new game.

[osculim]

10 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

Did you make sure to do a clean save from 1.2 to 1.3? Depending on when you updated, I might not have posted the Cleaning Instructions because I had not figured them out yet. If you didn't do a proper clean save (or didn't start a new game) before using 1.3, you will need to do so otherwise you will probably still encounter problems - even if you try updating to 1.4. This is because there will still be leftovers from 1.2 (or older) that need to be removed if you didn't clean save or start a new game.

No worries 1. 4 fixed the fame view screen for me. Everything is working great now

[NymphoElf]

@applesandmayo @Necroboi Please remove the SLSF Reloaded file downloads in your replies/quotes on Page 14. I don't want other people using those versions, otherwise I would have left them up on the main page.

[applesandmayo]

9 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

Please remove the SLSF Reloaded file downloads in your replies/quotes on Page 14. I don't want other people using those versions, otherwise I would have left them up on the main page.

Done! If you see any more that I quoted, please let me know and I'll remove it.

[applesandmayo]

@NymphoElf Also dumb question - what fame category does FHU affect? I'd expect 'Cum Dump', or something to that effect, but I'm not seeing any changes. I have the latest FHU Baka edition, but none of the other Baka mods currently loaded.

[NymphoElf]

13 hours ago, applesandmayo said:

@NymphoElf Also dumb question - what fame category does FHU affect? I'd expect 'Cum Dump', or something to that effect, but I'm not seeing any changes. I have the latest FHU Baka edition, but none of the other Baka mods currently loaded.

 

It's Cum Dump, and requires a minimum Total Inflation of 2.01 or more to trigger, but will only trigger during periodic checks. On top of this, if you have more than one possible fame type that you could gain, it's not guaranteed to get them all. It randomly picks between 1 category and the current number of valid categories to give you during each periodic check. So if for example you have 3 valid categories you could gain fame in, it randomly picks between 1 and 3 of those categories to give you. I did it this way to create a "soft simulation" of how people may focus on only one or two aspects and miss others instead of always having perfect memory of your sexual escapades.

 

So it's possible you were "unlucky" or deflated before the periodic check triggered, or were inflated outside of a valid location and deflated before you returned to a valid location. Bear in mind that some cells just outside of a town/city may not be considered "in" that town/city, and therefore be invalid.

 

Also you have one more download in a quote on Page 13. I doubt there are any before that page. Thank you for removing them

 

EDIT: FHU Total Inflation must be higher than 2 (more than 1/3rd 'full' by default), not 1 or higher. Also, Hentai Pregnancy can give you cum dump fame as well if that mod detects you as inflated (but not fertilized/pregnant).

Edited October 10, 2024 by NymphoElf

[libertyordeath]

Quote

Fame categories and triggers for fame are not equal! They strongly differ in probability, so scoring every fame exposure the same will make some categories go up way faster than others. The most notorious category for this is, anything that gains points from nudity or visible cum. But this problem exists for other categories as well - just less severe.

 

Bottom line: There needs to be a PER CATEGORY multiplier for fame gain AND/OR decay. I've read through the OP description (well, most of it), and maybe i missed something, but this mod does not appear to have per category scaling - same fundamental flaw as the previous SLSF variants. 

 

 

On 8/18/2024 at 3:17 PM, NymphoElf said:

I can see your point here. I'll see what I can do about this. However, for the moment I would like to make sure my current system is fully functional and as free of bugs as possible. I will add this to my list of requested features for future updates.

 

So, 2 months later, what's the current status regarding the above issue? I red through the OP description again, but didn't notice any mention of per category multipliers?

[Nickolkiin]

does this come voiced? 

[NymphoElf]

7 hours ago, libertyordeath said:

 

 

 

So, 2 months later, what's the current status regarding the above issue? I red through the OP description again, but didn't notice any mention of per category multipliers?

 

Per category multipliers were added a week after my reply in 0.5

 

I understand my description isn't perfect, but be careful of your wording. "So, 2 months later" comes across as condescending and entitled. Remember that I have made this mod for free on my own time. I don't owe anybody anything.

Edited October 10, 2024 by NymphoElf

[NymphoElf]

5 hours ago, ntmcadams said:

does this come voiced? 

 

This mod doesn't add dialogue 

[NymphoElf]

@applesandmayo Just FYI - I made an edit to my last reply.

[libertyordeath]

10 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

I understand my description isn't perfect, but be careful of your wording. "So, 2 months later" comes across as condescending and entitled. Remember that I have made this mod for free on my own time. I don't owe anybody anything.

This is a myth shared by most freeware developers, because it makes them feel good and justifies them disregarding all criticism and expectations.

 

Freeware is not altruism. You pay with your time and users pay with their time. The difference to commercial software simply is: With a commercial product the trade is your time for the users money. While with freeware the trade is your time for the users time - essentially shared development, with users playing betatesters. But this does NOT mean users cannot have expectations. It is still a trade - just with difference currencies - so if the trade is bad/unfair towards one side - be it the developer or the user - said party is very much entitled to say "no". And it can only make an informed decision by having the relevant information, so yes both parties are entitled to that as well.

 

If this is too difficult for you to grasp, let me put it real simple: You do not owe users your time, and neither do users owe you their time. It's a voluntary mutual agreement - not a master/slave relationship - and either party is free to say "no".

Edited October 10, 2024 by libertyordeath

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, libertyordeath said:

This is a myth shared by most freeware developers, because it makes them feel good and justifies them disregarding all criticism and expectations.

 

Freeware is not altruism. You pay with your time and users pay with their time. The difference to commercial software simply is: With a commercial product the trade is your time for the users money. While with freeware the trade is your time for the users time - essentially shared development, with users playing betatesters. But this does NOT mean users cannot have expectations. It is still a trade - just with difference currencies - so if the trade is bad/unfair towards one side - be it the developer or the user - said party is very much entitled to say "no". And it can only make an informed decision by having the relevant information, so yes both parties are entitled to that as well.

 

If this is too difficult for you to grasp, let me put it real simple: You do not owe users your time, and neither do users owe you their time. It's a voluntary mutual agreement - not a master/slave relationship - and either party is free to say "no".

 

I was merely asking you to be more polite about it, but apparently you've taken great offense to that.

 

Expectations and Demands are functionally the same, and by that extension is an attitude of someone being owed something.

 

Freeware IS altruism by its very nature. I could have easily made both of my mods for purely myself, yet I shared it with others for LITERALLY no personal gain.

 

The sheer lack of respect you have disappoints me, but sadly also does not surprise me.

 

Since you want to focus on people's expectations, I would have expected someone like you to have also read the change log which is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. You would have noticed I added the feature you asked for a long time ago.

 

I'm not bending the knee to your ego.

[Nickolkiin]

11 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

This mod doesn't add dialogue 

I thought that this was a replacement to SLF? What do you mean that it doesn't have dialog? doesn't it have comments like SLF? or do you mean that the voice files aren't included? 

[Hex Bolt]

33 minutes ago, ntmcadams said:

I thought that this was a replacement to SLF? What do you mean that it doesn't have dialog? doesn't it have comments like SLF? or do you mean that the voice files aren't included? 

The mod that it replaces doesn't have dialog, so why would this version add it?  You seem to have some confusion about the "fame" mods, a situation that can be exacerbated by the use of very similar acronyms.

[DoctaSax]

2 hours ago, libertyordeath said:

If this is too difficult for you to grasp

 

"2 months later" might have been put down to unlucky phrasing or whatever, but this is just doubling down on being a jerk to a modder in their own thread, so cut that out.

[NymphoElf]

2 hours ago, ntmcadams said:

I thought that this was a replacement to SLF? What do you mean that it doesn't have dialog? doesn't it have comments like SLF? or do you mean that the voice files aren't included? 

 

As @Hex Bolt mentioned, I believe you have this mod confused with Fame Comments, which is an extremely popular mod to use in addition to SLSF. But neither SLSF nor SLSF Reloaded by themselves have any dialogue included in them. I completely understand the confusion though.

[applesandmayo]

On 10/10/2024 at 8:20 AM, NymphoElf said:

@applesandmayo Just FYI - I made an edit to my last reply.

Got it!

[applesandmayo]

For v1.4, is the AND PW v4 patch still required when using this mod, AND, and Public Whore 1.2.4?

Also, I know this is a request and totally not necessary for you to do, but I've had SGO4 in my load order since forever, and I'm wondering if that could be used to add to the pregnancy fame. SGO 4's integration for does have an optional 'pregnant' faction, so it might be something that could be used to hook in to SLSF Reloaded. If at all possible, would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!