Sexlab Sexual Fame RELOADED

[B3juc0]

I don't have a crashlog because once I loaded the save without 0.9 esp being active in my LO... I got the usual "your save is corrupt" notification, but instead of CTD like before it actually loaded the game (the Papyrus Tweaks NG bypass "broken" save feature worked). 

 

Once in game I could tell the game had many issues, stuttering, my PC looking like the default preset... so I just save hoping I could clean it and restore it. But once I open the save on Resaver I saw all the issues (Screen Shot). The save was also 1/5 the size. 

 

I just finished setting up a new game. Something that I use that's probably not very common is that I use UBE body for my PC instead of your typical 3BA, or BHUNP. But I'm not going back to 3BA... it would be like driving a Ferrari and trading it for a civic. Everything works flawlessly (besides the not allowing me to clean the save for your mod). In the past I've cleaned the save many times for other mods, never had that issue.      

Edited September 23, 2024 by B3juc0

[NymphoElf]

13 hours ago, B3juc0 said:

I don't have a crashlog because once I loaded the save without 0.9 esp being active in my LO... I got the usual "your save is corrupt" notification, but instead of CTD like before it actually loaded the game (the Papyrus Tweaks NG bypass "broken" save feature worked). 

 

Once in game I could tell the game had many issues, stuttering, my PC looking like the default preset... so I just save hoping I could clean it and restore it. But once I open the save on Resaver I saw all the issues (Screen Shot). The save was also 1/5 the size. 

 

I just finished setting up a new game. Something that I use that's probably not very common is that I use UBE body for my PC instead of your typical 3BA, or BHUNP. But I'm not going back to 3BA... it would be like driving a Ferrari and trading it for a civic. Everything works flawlessly (besides the not allowing me to clean the save for your mod). In the past I've cleaned the save many times for other mods, never had that issue.      

 

Unfortunately most of the screenshots and information you've given me weren't very useful (not criticizing, just making a statement). To ensure the information you're giving me is as useful as possible, don't cut out ANY parts of an error image/message. Give ALL information about the error.

 

The most useful information was the full crash log you provided the other day, and I noticed a few things:

1. You're on AE - which by itself isn't a problem, but it could be part of the problem
2. The mod the crash log references most is "Reading is Good" - specifically the dll file - and not SLSF Reloaded or mods supported/used by SLSF Reloaded
3. A book object named "A Dance in Fire, v6" is supposedly part of this problem as well

This leads me to believe that this is some other issue in your mod list, and not strictly SLSF Reloaded's fault but trying to remove it causes the problem to trigger. This type of problem is not unheard of, and I have experienced a few of these myself, but I'm not going to pretend to understand why it happens. "It Just Works"

 

Regardless, until I see someone else post the same issue (or until I get more comprehensive information) I won't be able to do anything about it or make any recommendations because I don't know what the problem is and I am not currently convinced that SLSF Reloaded is the problem.

[23581321]

Does SLSF Fame Comments work now? I noticed that it now is mentioned as compatible, but I don't see any mention on the mods page and in the thread the author mentioned that they are still working on it.

Edited September 23, 2024 by 23581321

[NymphoElf]

On 8/17/2024 at 9:13 PM, NymphoElf said:

READ

"Frequently Asked Questions"

BEFORE POSTING

 

@23581321 ^

 

I'm on the verge of reporting people. I'm sick of this giant-ass billboard being ignored.

Edited September 23, 2024 by NymphoElf

[StrayHALO_MAN]

Will radiant prostitution count as whore fame?

If not please add it <3.

[NymphoElf]

On 8/17/2024 at 9:13 PM, NymphoElf said:

Q: Is SLSF Reloaded backwards compatible with the old SLSF?

A: No, and it never will be. The old code is a mess and a half, and I'm not dealing with that. Please abandon the old SLSF and politely ask other mod authors to use SLSF Reloaded.

 

@StrayHALO_MAN

[StrayHALO_MAN]

2 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

@StrayHALO_MAN

That didn't answer my question, I was asking about radiant prostitution not the old SLSF.

[NymphoElf]

50 minutes ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

That didn't answer my question, I was asking about radiant prostitution not the old SLSF.

 

I know. But radiant prostitution uses the old SLSF. It would be better if they updated to use this version instead of me trying to force it to be compatible.

 

Sorry if any of this came across as rude, because I don't mean to be. At this point it would just be better if the other mod authors made the switch rather than me trying to make every mod on LL compatible out of the box.

Edited September 24, 2024 by NymphoElf

[osculim]

On 9/22/2024 at 7:45 PM, NymphoElf said:

@osculim So, here's the thing with OStim. I would be using OStim Standalone as the mod I integrate, because it's more up to date and doesn't require a large amount of dev-space management like the other one would. However, OStim Standalone doesn't have native support for things that this mod currently offers. I'm not sure if this is different for the non-standalone version.

 

Here is a list of things that would be lost in OStim:

1. Foreplay Fame Modifier
   • There is no Foreplay tag, meaning Foreplay would be difficult to differentiate if the player manually controls the scene
2. Bestiality Fame
   • OStim doesn't support any kind of creature animations
3. Sadist Fame
   • There are no rape/consent metrics to use in OStim, and checking for bondage items on NPCs would be a bit of a hassle, especially if there are more than 2 actors in a scene. Plus, I'm not currently sure if OStim supports bondage animations
4. Masochist Fame
   • (Similar to above)
5. Dominant Fame
   • Drei said this tag is unlikely to be used
6. Submissive Fame
   • (Same as Dominant)
7. Nasty Fame
   • OStim has no internal cum coverage system, and I would need to also include OCum
8. Whore Fame
   • Many mods I've already implemented only use Sexlab, so I would need to include OProstitution

And there might be more.

 

Just this list is around 1/3rd of the features and/or fame types in this mod that would be lost with purely an OStim integration, and has also dipped into the realm of an effective re-write purely for this framework.

 

I don't use Ostim and would not have the desire to test it myself. AFAIK, Ostim is not supported on many of the mods I use (Public Whore, Sexlab Survival, Fill Her Up, Defeat, Milk Mod Economy, Devious Devices, Deviously Cursed Loot, and so on). Therefore testing this would be excruciatingly difficult and tedious for me, and would prevent me from making any changes to the Sexlab version until I got my mod list back in order for that version.

 

Therefore, with the number of lost features in mind, the lack of OStim support from other mods that SLSF Reloaded currently caters to, the number of changes that would need to be made to support the OStim framework, and the difficulties involved with testing the OStim version should it be created, I'm officially deciding to NOT include OStim.

 

I apologize if this disappoints you. However, I will not oppose anyone taking what I've done and creating their own OStim conversion because they would effectively be different mods due to the number of changes that would need to be made to make it work.

No worries you took the time to try. Maby I could wangle it through "SL to Ostim" but that mod is still a WIP too so only time will tell. And any case its no big deal I just wanted to move away from SL as ostim is way faster but I can use both at the same time with pandora so no biggy.

[applesandmayo]

I'm currently getting a ton of log spam on a new save from this. I'm currently using OsmelMC's SLU+ 24.4.7, with no conflicting files overwriting sslActorLibrary. SLSF Reloaded is lower in the load order than SLU+.
 

stack:
	[ (00000014)].Actor.HasMagicEffectWithKeyword() - "<native>" Line ?
	[SexLabQuestFramework (10000D62)].sslactorlibrary.CountCum() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 202
	[SexLabQuestFramework (10000D62)].sexlabframework.CountCumAnal() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 552
	[SLSF_Reloaded_Managers (FE0DB80A)].slsf_reloaded_visibilitymanager.IsAssCumVisible() - "SLSF_Reloaded_VisibilityManager.psc" Line 439
	[SLSF_Reloaded_Managers (FE0DB80A)].slsf_reloaded_visibilitymanager.OnUpdate() - "SLSF_Reloaded_VisibilityManager.psc" Line 88
[09/24/2024 - 01:15:16PM] Error: HasMagicEffectWithKeyword called with invalid Keyword

 

[NymphoElf]

37 minutes ago, applesandmayo said:

I'm currently getting a ton of log spam on a new save from this. I'm currently using OsmelMC's SLU+ 24.4.7, with no conflicting files overwriting sslActorLibrary. SLSF Reloaded is lower in the load order than SLU+.
 

stack:
	[ (00000014)].Actor.HasMagicEffectWithKeyword() - "<native>" Line ?
	[SexLabQuestFramework (10000D62)].sslactorlibrary.CountCum() - "sslActorLibrary.psc" Line 202
	[SexLabQuestFramework (10000D62)].sexlabframework.CountCumAnal() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 552
	[SLSF_Reloaded_Managers (FE0DB80A)].slsf_reloaded_visibilitymanager.IsAssCumVisible() - "SLSF_Reloaded_VisibilityManager.psc" Line 439
	[SLSF_Reloaded_Managers (FE0DB80A)].slsf_reloaded_visibilitymanager.OnUpdate() - "SLSF_Reloaded_VisibilityManager.psc" Line 88
[09/24/2024 - 01:15:16PM] Error: HasMagicEffectWithKeyword called with invalid Keyword

 

 

This seems like the same issue you mentioned with Cum Overlays Extended. I haven't finished that patch yet. It will be available as a separate download when it is done. It won't be packaged in the "main" version of the mod. I will make sure to note which version(s) the patch is usable with after each update.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

20 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

I know. But radiant prostitution uses the old SLSF. It would be better if they updated to use this version instead of me trying to force it to be compatible.

 

Sorry if any of this came across as rude, because I don't mean to be. At this point it would just be better if the other mod authors made the switch rather than me trying to make every mod on LL compatible out of the box.

OH OK, I didn't know that, I thought that mod was standalone and wasn't made with SLSF in mind.

I do use the RMCW 8.1.1 version which is the most up to date as far as I know.

Also don't worry you're not coming off as rude, most of this forum has turned into requests and people ignoring the front page... Must be annoying having an inbox full of just that lol

[DisarmingSnail]

@NymphoElf Hi there, I was planning to write a translation layer, which will serve to translate SLSF API calls to Reloaded API calls. This would maintain compatibility with most mods that interact with SLSF in a conventional manner. (e.g. Public Whore, SLSF Fame Comments).

From what I gather from looking through "SLSF_CompatibilityScript.psc", the vital functions (increase, decay, get fame, location register) seem to have equivalents in the reloaded API. 

I was hoping this would serve as a makeshift solution until most authors migrate to using Reloaded. Was hoping to get your opinion on the feasibility of such a solution. 

Edited September 26, 2024 by DisarmingSnail

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, DisarmingSnail said:

@NymphoElf Hi there, I was planning to write a translation layer, which will serve to translate SLSF API calls to Reloaded API calls. This would maintain compatibility with most mods that interact with SLSF in a conventional manner. (e.g. Public Whore, SLSF Fame Comments).

From what I gather from looking through "SLSF_CompatibilityScript.psc", the vital functions (increase, decay, get fame, location register) seem to have equivalents in the reloaded API. 

I was hoping this would serve as a makeshift solution until most authors migrate to using Reloaded. Was hoping to get your opinion on the feasibility of such a solution. 

 

It's 100% feasible. I just didn't want to bother with trying to decipher vaush's code. If you can do it, more power to you.

[NymphoElf]

@applesandmayo The modifications I need to make are surprisingly simple and a separate patch shouldn't actually required. You can expect 1.2 later today which will have COE support bundled in which should stop the log spam.

 

If you want more information as to WHY those messages were happening:

Spoiler

COE adds keywords to the SSL Actor Library Script which don't exist in base Sexlab and uses those keywords in the cum detection functions and is required to count the cum layers with COE.

 

Since SLSF Reloaded wasn't asking for those keywords in the cum count, COE throws an error whenever the visibility script asks for Cum Counts.

 

Now SLSF Reloaded will use COE's cum counting functions (if that mod is detected) instead of Sexlab's, which should stop that error from happening.

 

[eflat01]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:41 PM, StrayHALO_MAN said:

OH OK, I didn't know that, I thought that mod was standalone and wasn't made with SLSF in mind.

I do use the RMCW 8.1.1 version which is the most up to date as far as I know.

Also don't worry you're not coming off as rude, most of this forum has turned into requests and people ignoring the front page... Must be annoying having an inbox full of just that lol

 

I have not looked at RMCW 8.1.1, is the version I use also... 

 

Anyway when I looked it seems this is RMCW current push to SLSF functionality which is in the mf_handler.pex.

 

This would have to be replaced. 

;----------------------*
;1.3 FameList Chart PC:|
;----------------------*
;0  PC.Anal
;1  PC.Argonian
;2  PC.Beastiality
;3  PC.Dominant/Master
;4  PC.Exhibitionist/Exposed
;5  PC.GentleLover
;6  PC.Group
;7  PC.Khajiit
;8  PC.LikeMan
;9  PC.LikeWoman
;10 PC.Masochist
;11 PC.Nasty
;12 PC.Oral
;13 PC.Orc
;14 PC.Pregnant
;15 PC.Sadic
;16 PC.SkoomaUser
;17 PC.Slut
;18 PC.Submissive/Slave
;19 PC.Whore
function SLSF_FameGain(int fameToGain, string typeOfFame)
    int fameTypeID = 19
    if typeOfFame == "whore"
        fameTypeID = 19
    elseif  typeOfFame == "oral"
        fameTypeID = 12
    elseif  typeOfFame == "anal"
        fameTypeID = 0
    elseif  typeOfFame == "group"
        fameTypeID = 6
    elseif  typeOfFame == "beast"
        fameTypeID = 2
    elseif  typeOfFame == "man"
        fameTypeID = 8
    elseif  typeOfFame == "woman"
        fameTypeID = 9
    elseif  typeOfFame == "submissive"
        fameTypeID = 18
    elseif  typeOfFame == "slut"
        fameTypeID = 17
    elseif  typeOfFame == "orc"
        fameTypeID = 13
    elseif  typeOfFame == "khajiit"
        fameTypeID = 7
    elseif  typeOfFame == "argonian"
        fameTypeID = 1
    endif
    int eid = ModEvent.Create("SLSF_Request_ModFameValueByCurrent")
    if eid
        ModEvent.PushInt(eid, 1) ; 0 for npc, 1 for player
        ModEvent.PushInt(eid, fameTypeID)
        ModEvent.PushInt(eid, fameToGain)
        ModEvent.PushBool(eid, true) ; use configured modifier in MCM
        ModEvent.PushInt(eid, 0) ; min
        ModEvent.PushInt(eid, 100) ; max
        ModEvent.Send(eid)
    endif
endfunction
 

This function is called wherever RMCW is firing off sex...

Edited September 26, 2024 by eflat01

[applesandmayo]

21 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

@applesandmayo The modifications I need to make are surprisingly simple and a separate patch shouldn't actually required. You can expect 1.2 later today which will have COE support bundled in which should stop the log spam.

 

If you want more information as to WHY those messages were happening:

  Reveal hidden contents

COE adds keywords to the SSL Actor Library Script which don't exist in base Sexlab and uses those keywords in the cum detection functions and is required to count the cum layers with COE.

 

Since SLSF Reloaded wasn't asking for those keywords in the cum count, COE throws an error whenever the visibility script asks for Cum Counts.

 

Now SLSF Reloaded will use COE's cum counting functions (if that mod is detected) instead of Sexlab's, which should stop that error from happening.

 

You are a legend. I'll test this when its released and let you know if I see anything off in logs. Thanks again!

[NymphoElf]

3 hours ago, applesandmayo said:

I'll test this when its released and let you know

 

I already released it.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

Could we get support for S.L.A.C.S+?

I don't actually know if your mod works with it or not, but figured I should ask anyways just in case.

[NymphoElf]

2 hours ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

Could we get support for S.L.A.C.S+?

I don't actually know if your mod works with it or not, but figured I should ask anyways just in case.

 

It's generally bad manners to ask for mod support if you don't know if it's needed or not.

 

SLACS uses the default Sexlab Cum functions, so it should work already.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

5 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

It's generally bad manners to ask for mod support if you don't know if it's needed or not.

 

SLACS uses the default Sexlab Cum functions, so it should work already.

I just couldn't tell if it was working or not so I came and asked you.

[NymphoElf]

4 hours ago, StrayHALO_MAN said:

I just couldn't tell if it was working or not so I came and asked you.

 

I can't really say if SLACS Plus works or not because the description is in Russian(?) but the normal SLACS should work based on the description. If you're able to gain Nasty fame then that means its working.

[StrayHALO_MAN]

11 hours ago, NymphoElf said:

 

I can't really say if SLACS Plus works or not because the description is in Russian(?) but the normal SLACS should work based on the description. If you're able to gain Nasty fame then that means its working.

Turns out the forum version of the modpage is in english lol.

Anyways thanks for the answer I'll see if it's working and then come tell you.

[applesandmayo]

While I presume this level of logging is due to that I have my papyrus logging on full blown logs, I do notice that when I have this mod enabled, I get a lot more log spam, and I typically have ~192 entries in the save queue on game save. While I dont know if having items in that save queue is indicative of what the logs are reporting, I probably shouldnt be having things in the queue, lest I'm losing information on closing the game. Is this expected behavior? The remainder queue report is coming from JContainers, I think.

[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Location: Whiterun
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: whore
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: slut
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Exhibitionist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Oral
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Anal
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Nasty
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Pregnant
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Dominant
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Submissive
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Sadist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Masochist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Gentle
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Men
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Women
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Orc
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Khajiit
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Argonian
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Bestiality
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: group
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: bound
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Tattoo
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Cum Dump
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Unfaithful
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Cuck
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Airhead
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Location: Winterhold

 

[NymphoElf]

1 hour ago, applesandmayo said:

While I presume this level of logging is due to that I have my papyrus logging on full blown logs, I do notice that when I have this mod enabled, I get a lot more log spam, and I typically have ~192 entries in the save queue on game save. While I dont know if having items in that save queue is indicative of what the logs are reporting, I probably shouldnt be having things in the queue, lest I'm losing information on closing the game. Is this expected behavior? The remainder queue report is coming from JContainers, I think.

[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Location: Whiterun
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: whore
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: slut
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Exhibitionist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Oral
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Anal
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Nasty
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Pregnant
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Dominant
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Submissive
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Sadist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Masochist
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Gentle
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Men
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Women
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Orc
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Khajiit
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Likes Argonian
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Bestiality
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: group
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: bound
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Tattoo
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Cum Dump
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Unfaithful
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Cuck
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Fame Type: Airhead
[09/27/2024 - 10:50:41AM] FameOverviewCheck - Location: Winterhold

 

 

Yes, this is expected. This is just debugging info.

Edited September 29, 2024 by NymphoElf