Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Gristle]

6 hours ago, skyrimXmania said:

One question, is Serana supposed to react in any way to meeting you after the quest? I have an early version of the Serana dialogue addon so idk if there are any uncertain compatibilities with dialogues from the mod 🤔

That is on the list, but it was one of the many things that got put aside to get the update out. It will come in a future revision. But, yes, the idea was that she would not recognize you immediately upon being freed from her tomb (given she's a big confused and groggy), but would eventually remember the events of the past. So, dialogue to reflect that would be added, including sex requests and probably some dialogue regarding the death hound summoning spell. It should work fine with other Serana dialogue mods.

 

Dialogue mods generally mix well. Dialogue topics will all appear in the order they were given priority by the various mods. Random dialogue will all get thrown into the same bucket for random idles and hellos. 

[killer905]

6 hours ago, skyrimXmania said:

Been waiting eagerly for the next set of quests! Outstanding work guys, well worth the wait! Only did the Volkihar questline so far, but that was such a good concept.

To be sure. This mod?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/324

Edited July 26, 2025 by killer905

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

Some minor dialogue bugs:

 

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"You can touch me where ever you want."

Only applies when Tirwin is following you but looks like it's missing a condition pointing to her so everyone has it

 

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"Never had an Orc cock!? I can take care of that."

Looks like it's missing a condition so only Orc men say this

 

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"This one wishes his cock were between your two moons."

Looks like it's missing a condition so only Khajiit men say this

 

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"I'd like to share your pussy with that fluffy Khajiit."

Looks like it's missing a condition so that it doesn't play if you're playing a khajiit

 

Thanks. The first one is a 'bump' comment that is missing the 'actor=Tirwin' condition. I'll fix in the next version.

 

The other three are scene dialogue. They don't have actor conditions but there are stage conditions on these that can tell which actor is in the scene -- a different actor is put in the relevant actor alias for each stage.

[pinky6225]

Stuck on finding the gem at the party...

Found the hidden room accessed by the wardrobe but the strong box there just has a regular ruby in it, none of the other containers in there or the chest have anything

 

The female ghost didn't show me the door either as she runs off to a lower level as soon as her ghost husband wakes up and attacks me and then doesn't have any dialogue to show me the room, tried moving her back to the bedroom on the off chance but again nothing new triggers

 

Checked everywhere else i had access to and no gems in those containers either, quest shows

[killer905]

6 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

Stuck on finding the gem at the party...

 

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Found the hidden room accessed by the wardrobe but the strong box there just has a regular ruby in it, none of the other containers in there or the chest have anything

 

The female ghost didn't show me the door either as she runs off to a lower level as soon as her ghost husband wakes up and attacks me and then doesn't have any dialogue to show me the room, tried moving her back to the bedroom on the off chance but again nothing new triggers

 

Checked everywhere else i had access to and no gems in those containers either, quest shows


 

 

 

Spoiler!

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You are in the right place, but what the mysterious woman wants is not hidden in any container, it is lying in plain sight. It is a large gemstone.

 

That's how it should be. Because technically, he/she told you about the secret room, right?

 

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

Ingun wants the semen of three creatures: Bear, Troll, and Falmer. You can encounter two of them after completing the Spriggan quest.

 

In general, this part about bringing the semen of specific animals is partially done, because Falmer (currently) is impossible to collect, no matter how hard you try.

 

So does she collect the other two? What about the Spriggan's which was what Ingun went on about first in her dialog. 

 

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Would be interesting if Ingun turned all into more powerful potions ... i.e. Concentrated Bear Cum, for faster stamina regen timed 30 sec of course.

 

[killer905]

13 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

So does she collect the other two? What about the Spriggan's which was what Ingun went on about first in her dialog. 

 

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Would be interesting if Ingun turned all into more powerful potions ... i.e. Concentrated Bear Cum, for faster stamina regen timed 30 sec of course.

 

Intresting but for next update.

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Hmm, @Gristle I got a ctd when asking Tirwin to show me what she's carrying.

It must be the empty bottles. I'll get rid of them in v0.42 until I can find a substitute. They are not needed.

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

1. minor - Ingun also has a typo in her dialog when talking about the book "It's upstairs in my bedoom", instead of "bedroom".

2. minor - When giving the Sprigan book to Tirwin, she reads it but does not take it from your inventory. You may put the book in her inventory afterwards.

Thanks. Will be fixed in v0.42.

[Gristle]

47 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

So does she collect the other two? What about the Spriggan's which was what Ingun went on about first in her dialog. 

 

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Would be interesting if Ingun turned all into more powerful potions ... i.e. Concentrated Bear Cum, for faster stamina regen timed 30 sec of course.

 

Ingun knows where to collect spriggan sap (without the need to have sex with a spriggan). There's no separate quest to collect the three types of semen Ingun seeks because they'll be obtained in the course of the main AR quest. Once obtained, however, there will likely be a side quest to return them to Ingun. 

[killer905]

42 minutes ago, Gristle said:

It must be the empty bottles. I'll get rid of them in v0.42 until I can find a substitute. They are not needed.

Custom bottle? I think i can try find something.

[pinky6225]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Spoiler!

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You are in the right place, but what the mysterious woman wants is not hidden in any container, it is lying in plain sight. It is a large gemstone.

 

That's how it should be. Because technically, he/she told you about the secret room, right?

 

 

After consoling it in so i knew what to look for i found it eventual in a cupboard in the kitchen, while i don't have a mod for tidying clutter i think Diary of Mines maid feature is applying in cells my PC goes into (regardless of whether there is a slave set to clean in the cell or not) so both items for the mysterious lady where there

 

When i gave her the mask Tirwin didnt stay naked though as she redressed into her previous outfit and i had to move her from the upper level a couple of times, that might be on me though as i think it was either Furniture sex or sexlabs inate find furniture starting scenes up there

 

Apart from that managed to finish all the new quests, thanks for the update, looking forward to the next one

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

It must be the empty bottles. I'll get rid of them in v0.42 until I can find a substitute. They are not needed.

 

I tested that and is what it is, maybe all you have to do is use an object similar an empty wine bottle but give it the potion's model? I assume you plan to replace them with an actual potion anyway once filled? 

 

for the time being I used removeitem. 

Edited July 26, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

7 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

I tested that and is what it is, maybe all you have to do is use an object similar an empty wine bottle but give it the potion's model? I assume you plan to replace them with an actual potion anyway once filled? 

 

for the time being I used removeitem. 

I not any problems with VAR_EmptySemenBottle. Just strange to me but i removed this record and work without CTD.

[killer905]

25 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

After consoling it in so i knew what to look for i found it eventual in a cupboard in the kitchen, while i don't have a mod for tidying clutter i think Diary of Mines maid feature is applying in cells my PC goes into (regardless of whether there is a slave set to clean in the cell or not) so both items for the mysterious lady where there

 

When i gave her the mask Tirwin didnt stay naked though as she redressed into her previous outfit and i had to move her from the upper level a couple of times, that might be on me though as i think it was either Furniture sex or sexlabs inate find furniture starting scenes up there

 

Apart from that managed to finish all the new quests, thanks for the update, looking forward to the next one

In the kitchen cupboard? That shouldn't be the case.

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The large jewel is in a secret room behind the cupboard.

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The second item for the mysterious woman is in a room on the same floor where you will also find Isobel locked in a cell.

 

Tirwin sex should start at specific, predetermined spots. Also, as always, it appears at the top, but other modes (probably the ones you mentioned) cause this behaviour.

[tonitrulupus]

To bad you couldn't tie this into the animal mansion at some point, it would be kind of cool to have the 2 mods loosely link

[eflat01]

Unknown Pleasures:

 

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Complete entertaining the guest but did not advance? The PC first took care of Nocturnal for the robes after the mask, which brought the count to 19 which I believe it started with 20, Count hit zero and I do not know if it was because PC "entertained" about twice as many guest as Tirwin or what? Currently replaying it from entering the manor.

 

 

 

 

 

[killer905]

7 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Unknown Pleasures:

 

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Complete entertaining the guest but did not advance? The PC first took care of Nocturnal for the robes after the mask, which brought the count to 19 which I believe it started with 20, Count hit zero and I do not know if it was because PC "entertained" about twice as many guest as Tirwin or what? Currently replaying it from entering the manor.

 

 

 

 

 

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The goal here is for Tirwin to deal with all 20 guests, and the PC can help her do it faster, but she will only have the appropriate dialogue (as far as I remember) after the male high elf. Even if the counter drops to 0 because the PC helped, Tirwin will still go from guest to guest to reach her goal of 20.

As for Nocturnal, it's something that was missed during creation, but does it matter?

The last scene (if you have the right animations) ends with MMMMF. You can see it in one of the screenshots on the mod page.

 

[killer905]

16 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said:

To bad you couldn't tie this into the animal mansion at some point, it would be kind of cool to have the 2 mods loosely link

We plan to do something with Animal Research, and even improve it, but only after Gristle has completed at least one of the mods in his portfolio.

[eflat01]

24 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Spoile!

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The goal here is for Tirwin to deal with all 20 guests, and the PC can help her do it faster, but she will only have the appropriate dialogue (as far as I remember) after the male high elf. Even if the counter drops to 0 because the PC helped, Tirwin will still go from guest to guest to reach her goal of 20.

As for Nocturnal, it's something that was missed during creation, but does it matter?

The last scene (if you have the right animations) ends with MMMMF. You can see it in one of the screenshots on the mod page.

 

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😛 Funny, yes I took my time and made sure she stopped to talk with the PC between everyone she entertained this time. Thing is in last go she quit even talking to the pc and I can't help think it may had been because the PC was so busy or something?

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

32 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

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😛 Funny, yes I took my time and made sure she stopped to talk with the PC between everyone she entertained this time. Thing is in last go she quit even talking to the pc and I can't help think it may had been because the PC was so busy or something?

 

 

 

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Maybe she got offended that PC is also having fun? But PC should finish having sex before Tirwin approaches PC. Ideally, it should start around the time Tirwin goes to someone, and then PC can have fun, but also not start the next sex scene so as not to spoil her forcegreet.

 

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

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Maybe she got offended that PC is also having fun? But PC should finish having sex before Tirwin approaches PC. Ideally, it should start around the time Tirwin goes to someone, and then PC can have fun, but also not start the next sex scene so as not to spoil her forcegreet.

 

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Could be? Maybe the user was not keeping tight count of Tirwin's body count or she's really competitive and got jealous when the PC was leaving her in the dust. 😜 

 

I do know it seemed she stopped and she just stood there. I turned off spectators before taking on the entertainment tasks from the start just to be sure to eliminate any interference from that.

 

All in all it played through fine on the second and third run throughs. I also double-checked her inventory after she got the bottles of bear and troll cum and that worked fine so the only major issue I think is the empty cum bottle. Aside from that some things while I don't like things being obvious, took a little thought to figure out. Slick.

 

I liked your use of Nocturnal, Saguine and all the props. Oh, and you suckered us in with that disguised Hagraven 🤣... bad enough Saguine did that in base-game. That dude of a deamora happened to toy around and rape the DB repeatedly early on in this very game when she was level ten or so, is why there's a Rose tattooed above her snatch. 

 

I have to say you both outdone yourselves @killer905 and @Gristle, I see people asking you about Animal Mansion but I think this mod well outdoes that mod by a thousand, been years since I used AM but can't imagine Animal Mansion even getting close.

 

This version of AR was rather ambitious, it's put together very well, has some puzzles and even misdirection, but most of all has great storylines. Is the best mod on LL in years.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, killer905 said:

I not any problems with VAR_EmptySemenBottle. Just strange to me but i removed this record and work without CTD.

 

You're running on LE right? I'm on SSE 1.6.1170 so may as well be AE. I wonder if that's why for some reason?

[Gristle]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Unknown Pleasures:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Complete entertaining the guest but did not advance? The PC first took care of Nocturnal for the robes after the mask, which brought the count to 19 which I believe it started with 20, Count hit zero and I do not know if it was because PC "entertained" about twice as many guest as Tirwin or what? Currently replaying it from entering the manor.

 

 

 

 

 

Like @killer905 mentioned, the quest is not set up to automatically end when the counter drops to 0. Presently, the PC can help, but this only results in a Tirwin dialogue choice to end Tirwin's adventures one stage early. I could give her also give her a dialogue choice to end two stages early, if the counter is at 0. (I don't think it's really possible to hit 0 any sooner than that.) But, at the same time, the thought was that most players would not want to cut short the party.

[kamithemoon]

7 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks. The first one is a 'bump' comment that is missing the 'actor=Tirwin' condition. I'll fix in the next version.

 

The other three are scene dialogue. They don't have actor conditions but there are stage conditions on these that can tell which actor is in the scene -- a different actor is put in the relevant actor alias for each stage.

Oh, awesome!

 

Dialogue with aliases is the hardest to deal with in voice packs.  The script can't tell who's supposed to be talking so it generates voice files for all generic NPCs.  The same happens for faction dialogue too, since anyone can be part of a faction, even if only a few people actually are.

 

If I may ask, moving forward, if it's possible to easily do in the CK, adding voice type or npc conditions to scene dialogue that uses aliases would be helpful in removing dialogue bloat.

 

One other minor bug.  In the voice files under the Dawnguard esp are voice files that replace the original vanilla NPC voices.  These shouldn't be here and the Dawnguard and Dragonborn folders should be deleted.  02015A87 is also an ITM and should be cleaned from the esp.