Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[killer905]

10 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

I've only played through 4 quests, but there are some issues here. I'm playing on male PC and the LE version.

- Feral Vampire had a grey face. The one in the Volkihar catacombs.
- Sex PC male with Tirwin near Valerica and the gargoyle takes place in the air. So i get flying sex.
- Tiriwn's dialogue near male PC (I don't think she'll mind. She might even want a turn.)

Grey faces? Sounds like the appropriate FaceGeom files weren't generated. Gristle needs to take care of the rest of the issues.

[killer905]

9 hours ago, nukacola1989 said:

Absolutely loving this update so far! Just finished the quest chain at Castle Volkihar. Can definitely confirm that this will need a patch for Castle Volkihar Rebuilt. Nothing too egregious, the new door in the docks behind the castle is concealed by repaired walls, but I was able to use it using the TCL console command. The courtyard had some wonkeyness, but I kinda expected that, and was able to resolve most of it by having Castle Volkihar Rebuilt lower in my load order.  However, after the quest chain is finished. The door from the main hall of the castle to the courtyard is covered in rubble, both inside and out, and is rendered unusable. I tried playing with my load order, but that passageway remained unusable. 

This mod has been added to the list to make a patch. As for the rubble by the main hall door, once you complete the quests in Volkihar Animal Research, the rubble returns, but you can open the console, select the rubble and type disable.

[killer905]

4 hours ago, kkiiees said:

Okay, high poly patch updated with reworked Tirwin to like more like Korean MMO games and Nyssia. 



And also, I only found Nyssia and a female Dremora in xedit. Are there any other new female NPCs that I missed?


Animal Research High poly.rar

Let me think...

 

Only Nyssia and female dremora was added in this update.

[Huiplo]

El juego se bloquea cuando aparece Nyssia. ¿Posible conflicto con los mods de PSBoss o Spriggan Animations Repository? Aparte de esos dos mods, solo uso More Nasty Creatures, ABC... lo de siempre.

 

EDIT: I disabled both mods but the problem persists.

Edited July 25, 2025 by Huiplo

[Huiplo]

4 hours ago, kkiiees said:

Bueno, parche de alta poligonización actualizado con Tirwin rediseñado para que se parezca más a los MMO coreanos y a Nyssia.  Además, solo encontré a Nyssia y a una Dremora femenina en xedit. ¿Hay algún otro PNJ femenino nuevo que me haya perdido?






Investigación animal High poly.rar

They look amazing, any chance of getting that look with their golden skin tone?

[leking]

14 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

11 hours ago, Gristle said:

Tirwin does have lots of post-Tirwin-sex comments now, but only a few different ones after non-quest sex activity. The generic ones could certainly be expanded. But I've been having trouble capturing the generic sex partner ID, and this is important to get the context right.

 

As for NPC comments, that's easy, and of course, a few key NPCs in the mod have such comments, but it will make the voice files huge if they can be spoken by anyone. (Like the more numerous NPC comments on sex in the Unknown Pleasures quest.)

 

As for Tirwin comments during Tirwin sex, I'd like to figure out how to do that too. Does Sexist Guards voice any NPC during sex, or is it just unvoiced PC dialogue? I've done it a few times in this v0.4 update, but only by cheating and using a hidden NPC as the voice actor.

 

Also, built into this last mod update is a PC sex detection function, but it's currently unused. Tirwin can now detect when the PC is having sex, and can also detect with what gender, how many, what the tags are, what creatures are involved, etc. So, it will be easy at this point to build in Tirwin comments on the PC's sex activities.

Oh, btw, I've been playing around with Shadowman's Post Sex Comments and Public Sex Comments and it would be easy to give Tirwin specific dialogue to say after engaging in sex or seeing the PC engage in sex, should someone want to write something.  It would be pretty cool too if Tirwin could say something during sex but the only mod I know of that does that is Sexist Guards and I couldn't figure out how they did that.  It's a neat feature of the mod though.  Assuming Tirwin doesn't already have this sex commentary, I actually do not know.

 

I would love to write lewd comment/lines if you want i can do that.

 

@kamithemoon @Gristle let's discuss it in private messaging.

[leking]

@Gristle there is also "sexy sex talk" for comment during sex. 

i did not use it yet so i don"t know if it works well but apparently it seems already doable also. Maybe we should contact the author.

Edited July 25, 2025 by leking

[Ultimo119]

Does anyone know of mods with good MFC animations then please suggest (plus there is a option with ash spawn but i can't trigger it cause mc is male) (thanks in advance)

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, killer905 said:

Let me think...

 

Only Nyssia and female dremora was added in this update.

 

I just look at the last date on the nifs then open those... I assume they only want to create high-poly meshes for main npcs, not supporting roles like Kaydi was in the last update, but she is a decent looking redguard. 

 

Spoiler

I'm wondering why the dup Tirwins in the castle quest. 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Edited July 25, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

Well, so far no major issues. 

 

Spoiler

I only completed the VAR_Castle, VAR_DeathHound, VAR_VampireLord so far... 

 

Tirwin did have some trouble following from room to room in the Castle, do not know if it's navmesh pathing issue, sometimes had to call her.

 

Did make me work a bit when came to searching, I like that ... i.e. one of Valeirca's books was buried under a lot of ruined books.

 

Oh, I assume you removed map markers for the castle entrances. (Previously had one on the front gate and the balcony). 

 

 

[Gristle]

21 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

Tirwin did have some trouble following from room to room in the Castle, do not know if it's navmesh pathing issue, sometimes had to call her.

Was Ragnar there? I've noticed some problems with Ragnar blocking her. He follows her, which means if he ends up in front of her in a passage, he never gets out of the way. The easy way to solve this would be to have Ragnar follow the PC. On the other hand, I like that he follows her (makes him more her dog). So, I'm not sure which way to go on this.

 

If the PC rams Ragnar, he teleports slightly out of the way, but this doesn't work for Tirwin. If her path is blocked, she doesn't move.

 

If Ragnar isn't there, then I'm not sure what the problem is.  I haven't had any issues like that, except outside the north harbor entrance (where Tirwin sometimes gets stuck on rocks during combat). I can check the navmesh, but it's been working fine for me. Any particular place she gets stuck?

 

21 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Oh, I assume you removed map markers for the castle entrances. (Previously had one on the front gate and the balcony). 

Yes. Blocking the balcony entrance was needed, and this way an encounter and some dialogue by the boat could be added.

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, Huiplo said:

El juego se bloquea cuando aparece Nyssia. ¿Posible conflicto con los mods de PSBoss o Spriggan Animations Repository? Aparte de esos dos mods, solo uso More Nasty Creatures, ABC... lo de siempre.

 

EDIT: I disabled both mods but the problem persists.

 

 I do not think MNC has Spriggans or Dremora?  I'm not sure if PSBoss will interfere, I don't use their Sprigans but do their Hagravens and those work fine.

 

I know Anubs has Billyy may also? look for:  "creature_race": "Spriggans",

[pinky6225]

Getting a repeatable crash to desktop when Nyssia comes towards the player after leaving the tree, can run through the dialogue with her

Shows like this while i'm talking to her

 

But then after taking two steps towards me it CTD, was originally playing without the high poly stuff but tried with that as well and crash remains the same

 

Is the latest crash log

crash-2025-07-25-15-56-48.log

 

Is there a requirement or action i need to do to make her work?

 

Up until this point update was working fine, only oddity was Serana not stripping in the pool in the castle and Ingun keeping her clothes on for her scenes

 

[eflat01]

39 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Was Ragnar there? I've noticed some problems with Ragnar blocking her. He follows her, which means if he ends up in front of her in a passage, he never gets out of the way. The easy way to solve this would be to have Ragnar follow the PC. On the other hand, I like that he follows her (makes him more her dog). So, I'm not sure which way to go on this.

 

If the PC rams Ragnar, he teleports slightly out of the way, but this doesn't work for Tirwin. If her path is blocked, she doesn't move.

 

If Ragnar isn't there, then I'm not sure what the problem is.  I haven't had any issues like that, except outside the north harbor entrance (where Tirwin sometimes gets stuck on rocks during combat). I can check the navmesh, but it's been working fine for me. Any particular place she gets stuck?

 

Yes. Blocking the balcony entrance was needed, and this way an encounter and some dialogue by the boat could be added.

Spoiler

 

1. Ragnar stayed up to some point where Tirwin told him to wait there... I don't recall where. It also dawned on me right now that sometimes it was on entry from one cell to another... i.e. at the end where we're return to the portal suppose to talk to Valerica to return to the future , both Tirwin and Serana did not follow nor appear... 

 

I'll play from the save before meeting Serana in the North tower before the deathhound book.

Spoiler

2. Yes I figured that, I know you're trying to steer the quest.

 

QQ: Is it possible to put them back afterward? (I'd not checked yet if you had) I just sometimes go to let Serana visit her mom so they can yell at each other a little then make up... I do return to the soulcarn also for ingreds. Is not a Biggy though, because I have a map marker to the other side of the portal in the soulcarn, though never used it yet, that would likely let me back into Valerica's lab too.

 

 

 

Oh one more minor error...

 

Spoiler

Tirwin lost the outfit I gave her after we left the past... she was still in thrall clothes.  

 

Eh, magecore was a lot of pieces to give her, but she likely needs a change of clothes anyway... she'd been in that outfit since v.36 was released.

 

Following, not helpful,  are just some horny elf and vamp shots... 

 

 

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I suppose it's the dragon blood makes the dragonborn attracted to horny things?

 

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Edited July 25, 2025 by eflat01

[pinky6225]

27 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

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Tirwin lost the outfit I gave her after we left the past... she was still in thrall clothes.  

 

Eh, magecore was a lot of pieces to give her, but she likely needs a change of clothes anyway... she'd been in that outfit since v.36 was released.

 

 

I had that, stuff wasnt in her inventory but if you use the dialogue about her going back to her college clothes the outfit she was wearing re-appears

Edited July 25, 2025 by pinky6225

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

 

I had that, stuff wasnt in her inventory but if you use the dialogue about her going back to her college clothes the outfit she was wearing re-appears

 

I'll try that and see if the magecore reappears in her inventory.

[AthenaTheLover]

More stuff:

- Iona does not have a dialogue about getting pregnant, while the other girls do. I had sex with one of them, but not with the other, and she had the dialogue.
- The blowjob scene with Isobel didn't start, and she kept following me around.
- I think that if the PC hasn't completed the Thieves Guild quests, they probably won't know what Nocturnal looks like.
- I found Male High Elf upstairs, and Tirwin couldn't reach him for some reason.
- Tirwin, wearing Nocturnal Robes, does not change her outfit in the city, but an appropriate message appears.
- I wanted to take her Nocturnal outfit or reset her custom outfit, but I get a CTD as soon as I open the inventory. I checked another save at the beginning of the Seeds of Lust quest, and I can change her outfit without any problems, but at the beginning of the Dremora quest, trying to change her custom outfit results in a CTD.
- Voices are missing when giving Tirwin the Nocturnal outfit.

[Huiplo]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

 ¿No creo que MNC tenga Spriggans ni Dremora? No estoy seguro de si PSBoss interferirá; no uso sus Sprigans, pero sí sus Hagravens, y esos funcionan bien.

 

Sé que Anubs tiene a Billyy, ¿quizás también? Busca: "creature_race": "Spriggans",

In fact, none of them were the cause of the problem,
and I still don't know what the conflict is, so I had to postpone the mission progress

[killer905]

6 hours ago, Ultimo119 said:

Does anyone know of mods with good MFC animations then please suggest (plus there is a option with ash spawn but i can't trigger it cause mc is male) (thanks in advance)

If i remeber Billyy animations pack have MFC

[killer905]

5 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

I just look at the last date on the nifs then open those... I assume they only want to create high-poly meshes for main npcs, not supporting roles like Kaydi was in the last update, but she is a decent looking redguard. 

 

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I'm wondering why the dup Tirwins in the castle quest. 

 

 

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Var_TriwinVoice and Var_tirwinVoice2 are invisible so donlt need high poly. Ahy dup? Ask Gristle maybe i was more easy to add? Idk.

 

004EEF1B - female Dremora

003DC2DC - Nyssia first meet

00343EA1 - Nyssia dup for later quest

009EF48D - Kaydi

Edited July 25, 2025 by killer905

[killer905]

3 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Getting a repeatable crash to desktop when Nyssia comes towards the player after leaving the tree, can run through the dialogue with her

 

  Hide contents

 

 

Shows like this while i'm talking to her


 

 

 

 

But then after taking two steps towards me it CTD, was originally playing without the high poly stuff but tried with that as well and crash remains the same

 

Is the latest crash log

crash-2025-07-25-15-56-48.log 48.74 kB · 2 downloads

 

Is there a requirement or action i need to do to make her work?

 

Up until this point update was working fine, only oddity was Serana not stripping in the pool in the castle and Ingun keeping her clothes on for her scenes

 

Personally, I can't read these logs, but it works more or less like this: Nyssia should transform into a wood elf ‘nympha’. She herself is not a spriggan.

 

As for Serana and Ingun, it's a conflict between other mods, but in my opinion, you can turn a blind eye to such things as long as the scenes work correctly.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

More stuff:

- Iona does not have a dialogue about getting pregnant, while the other girls do. I had sex with one of them, but not with the other, and she had the dialogue.
- The blowjob scene with Isobel didn't start, and she kept following me around.
- I think that if the PC hasn't completed the Thieves Guild quests, they probably won't know what Nocturnal looks like.
- I found Male High Elf upstairs, and Tirwin couldn't reach him for some reason.
- Tirwin, wearing Nocturnal Robes, does not change her outfit in the city, but an appropriate message appears.
- I wanted to take her Nocturnal outfit or reset her custom outfit, but I get a CTD as soon as I open the inventory. I checked another save at the beginning of the Seeds of Lust quest, and I can change her outfit without any problems, but at the beginning of the Dremora quest, trying to change her custom outfit results in a CTD.
- Voices are missing when giving Tirwin the Nocturnal outfit.

I already send LE faces NPC and missing voice lines. Just need wait for update

[Gristle]

First, many thanks to everyone for the bug reports. 💖 The version 0.41 referred to below with bug fixes will be posted shortly.

 

3 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Getting a repeatable crash to desktop when Nyssia comes towards the player after leaving the tree, can run through the dialogue with her

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Shows like this while i'm talking to her


 

 

 

But then after taking two steps towards me it CTD, was originally playing without the high poly stuff but tried with that as well and crash remains the same

When she has the dialogue shown, the actor (Nyssia, Wood Elf) is there. She just has an invisibility spell on her. The leaf particle effects are supposed to be visible and appear to be working fine.

 

After this dialogue completes, the invisibility spell is removed, and her "alpha" (transparency) is set to 0.1, and then it fades up to 1.0 (fully visible). Then, you should see her body, which is a Wood Elf body.

 

Nyssia.DispelSpell(NInviso)
Nyssia.SetAlpha(0.1)
Nyssia.SetAlpha(1.0,true)

 

Do you have an ENB? If so, you might try temporarily disabling it for this scene.

 

3 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Up until this point update was working fine, only oddity was Serana not stripping in the pool in the castle and Ingun keeping her clothes on for her scenes

Odd. Changing their default outfits to a "naked" outfit was working in playtesting. I have now removed their outfits from their inventory in version 0.41 so they should be naked now.

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Tirwin lost the outfit I gave her after we left the past... she was still in thrall clothes.  

What choice did you pick regarding the vampire outfit? She should end that dialogue wearing either her college robes or the vampire armor.

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- Iona does not have a dialogue about getting pregnant, while the other girls do. I had sex with one of them, but not with the other, and she had the dialogue.

Fixed in version 0.41.

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- The blowjob scene with Isobel didn't start, and she kept following me around.

Fixed in version 0.41. (By the way, if you install the Billyy's animation sets, the sex scenes in the manor will be picked specifically, will use existing furniture, and will be a lot better.)

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- I think that if the PC hasn't completed the Thieves Guild quests, they probably won't know what Nocturnal looks like.

True, certainly not her face. But I thought the daedric princes would be known by anyone in Tamriel, at least by general description, and she does have an outfit that's unique to her. Also, the name of the artifact she seeks is a big hint as well.  

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- I found Male High Elf upstairs, and Tirwin couldn't reach him for some reason.

I've shortened his sandbox radius in version 0.41 -- cut it from 512 to 256. That should prevent this.

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- Tirwin, wearing Nocturnal Robes, does not change her outfit in the city, but an appropriate message appears.

Are you giving her the robes with the dialogue when you return to Skyrim? That's working for me. If not, you need to use her "new outfit" to equip her with the Nocturnal robes.

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- I wanted to take her Nocturnal outfit or reset her custom outfit, but I get a CTD as soon as I open the inventory. I checked another save at the beginning of the Seeds of Lust quest, and I can change her outfit without any problems, but at the beginning of the Dremora quest, trying to change her custom outfit results in a CTD.

The Nocturnal robes had a bad world model. I have removed that in version 0.41. But that shouldn't affect her before she acquires the Nocturnal robes. Are you using any follower framework with inventory control on Tirwin? In any case, try again with version 0.41 please.

1 hour ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- Voices are missing when giving Tirwin the Nocturnal outfit.

@killer905 can you take a look at this please?

19 hours ago, AthenaTheLover said:

- Feral Vampire had a grey face. The one in the Volkihar catacombs.
- Sex PC male with Tirwin near Valerica and the gargoyle takes place in the air. So i get flying sex.
- Tiriwn's dialogue near male PC (I don't think she'll mind. She might even want a turn.)

All fixed in version 0.41.

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

QQ: Is it possible to put them back afterward? (I'd not checked yet if you had) I just sometimes go to let Serana visit her mom so they can yell at each other a little then make up... I do return to the soulcarn also for ingreds. Is not a Biggy though, because I have a map marker to the other side of the portal in the soulcarn, though never used it yet, that would likely let me back into Valerica's lab too.

I re-enabled the boat, island and balcony map markers at the end of the Volkihar quests in version 0.41. I also added the boat marker to the player's map. However, in version 0.41, I didn't add the island and balcony map markers to the player's map unless the player has completed Dawnguard. This should set up a normal DG playthrough, if playing DG after the mod's quests.

4 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Tirwin lost the outfit I gave her after we left the past... she was still in thrall clothes. 

What choice did you pick regarding the vampire outfit? She should end that dialogue wearing either her college robes or the vampire armor.

 

Also, her custom (player-given) outfit is put in a hidden chest when she is not wearing it. This prevents Skyrim from having her change to a "better" outfit when she changes cells. Ideally, she should only be given one custom outfit at a time by a player. If you give her multiple outfits, then the Skyrim engine will choose.

9 hours ago, killer905 said:

The door from the main hall of the castle to the courtyard is covered in rubble, both inside and out, and is rendered unusable. I tried playing with my load order, but that passageway remained unusable. 

I don't have an immediate fix for this. If you completed Dawnguard on the vampire line, you can ask Garan Marethi to clear the rubble. 

[nukacola1989]

4 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

Getting a repeatable crash to desktop when Nyssia comes towards the player after leaving the tree, can run through the dialogue with her

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Shows like this while i'm talking to her


 

 

 

 

But then after taking two steps towards me it CTD, was originally playing without the high poly stuff but tried with that as well and crash remains the same

Also encountered this same issue. Not using the high poly mod. No other game breaking issues so far though. 

[pinky6225]

50 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Personally, I can't read these logs, but it works more or less like this: Nyssia should transform into a wood elf ‘nympha’. She herself is not a spriggan.

 

As for Serana and Ingun, it's a conflict between other mods, but in my opinion, you can turn a blind eye to such things as long as the scenes work correctly.

 

I'll admit i've not tried to use the CK in years now but after trying to remove mods i thought might conflict after viewing the .esp in SSedit i loaded up the CK and did the command to generate facegen data (CTRL + F4) for Nyssia2 and now my crash has gone away, looks like

 

So in my very amateur way i'd suggest there is a problem with the facegen data being packaged with the install