Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[ekw070]

1 hour ago, Donuts4me said:

 

 

I think they are asking if you need older versions of the mod in addition to the latest? Like the latest version only has the latest quests and not the early ones that were on earlier versions.

 

The answer to that is no. You do not need older versions like 0.22 or 0.33 in order to use 0.36. The latest version always has everything that prior versions had. One only needs one file at a time. Just use the latest file.

 

 

Yes, thank you that was exactly what I was asking.  Thank you, and the OP for responding.  I'd just misunderstood the description.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

Yes it would, and while I mentioned I'd use the Creation Kit to do it also. Like I said you'd have complete visibility of all the items and the block area involved.  I only use SSeEdit for information, minor changes, set header flags, renumbering ID's if going to eslfy and to check mods for errors. 

 

You'd be pretty much playing guessing games to change x y z orientations in SSeEdit which would be totally trial and error to get them in decent places (would have to find the boat or an object on it and start guessing from that). 

 

A question came to my mind after I posted on patching this is... I don't remember on the quest where everyone zoned (traveled) in, is it relevant to something on the boat, to the dock marker or what? I did not bother to look at the script. 

 

I do not blame you for not wanting to write patches, I'm like forever patching and tweaking and that in turn only affords me to do minor modding of my own. 

 

H3ll I made the mistake of adding in Estrus Mimic off nexus, somewhere the darn thing screwed up it's McM without me knowing about it, the result was randomly missing furniture everywhere after that. I could not find a save without the mod and so I though F-it and uninstalled it but the furniture was gone ... left two options - start a new game or patch the furniture back in a cell at a time when I found something missing. 

I would have to find time for that, and right now I'm busy looking for parts to upgrade my computer.

I currently know of two cases.
One is the boat too far from the port, which I already mentioned, and the other is the bedrolls hanging in the air where the ship used to be in Solstheim.

[kamithemoon]

On 7/10/2025 at 4:02 AM, Carnotaurus said:

Quite well done, though the voices sound odd at times (I didn't install the better voices file).

But why not use the other voice files?  

Edited July 14, 2025 by kamithemoon

[eflat01]

11 hours ago, kamithemoon said:

But why not use the other voice files?  

 

Yes, I actually wait for you to release new voice files before I play a new version. 

[Carnotaurus]

Okay, a few extra points as we wait for the next version.

 

-- First, many thanks for making an LE version. I still prefer LE despite its quirks, limitations, and occasional crashes. There are a few mods that never made it to SE (or had features removed), and somehow I get better visuals and FPS with LE (no idea why ENBs make my SE look washed out and hazy). That said, I played the current version on SE first to see what it was about, and I had yet to arrive to Solstheim on my current LE character.

 

-- For the trolls, I found it a bit odd that my PC just waits impassively and not intervene as the two trolls take turns raping Tirwin, only to kill them both when they turn to attack. I was hoping that they would do their deed with the two of us simultaneously. ^^

 

-- For the other creatures, Tirwin says she will show me how to attract them, but that seems limited to just one round of sex with them. It would be nice to acquire some spell to attract the same creature whenever one wanted.

 

-- Is anything being planned for the books once the quest is finished? I like to collect all the books in the game and put them on shelves in my houses. In the mod's current state I can grab them from Tirwin's inventory, but I'm afraid that could mess up whatever ending could be planned.

 

I'll end with my thanks for making this. Not many mods with animal sex on them, and even less that accommodate a male PC (even if he got referred as a "woman" when addressing NPCs with information).

Edited July 16, 2025 by Carnotaurus

[killer905]

2 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- First, many thanks for making an LE version. I still prefer LE despite its quirks, limitations, and occasional crashes. There are a few mods that never made it to SE (or had features removed), and somehow I get better visuals and FPS with LE (no idea why ENBs make my SE look washed out and hazy). That said, I played the current version on SE first to see what it was about, and I had yet to arrive to Solstheim on my current LE character.

Personally, I play on LE because I don't have any compelling reasons to switch to SE, and if there are mods only available on SE, I play on that version or convert them for my own use on LE.

2 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- For the trolls, I found it a bit odd that my PC just waits impassively and not intervene as the two trolls take turns raping Tirwin, only to kill them both when they turn to attack. I was hoping that they would do their deed with the two of us simultaneously. ^^

The trolls should sexually attack the female PC and Tirwin, but in the case of the male PC, we didn't have much of an idea at the time. It was something like the male PC was knocked unconscious or something like that. However, he is still being observed by the male PC.

2 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- For the other creatures, Tirwin says she will show me how to attract them, but that seems limited to just one round of sex with them. It would be nice to acquire some spell to attract the same creature whenever one wanted.

The restriction that the PC can only have sex with an animal once could be removed, but on the other hand, the player would probably not need to do it more than once. There are other creatures to visit. As for the spell, it is planned, but rather as a reward for completing the entire AR storyline.

 

2 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- Is anything being planned for the books once the quest is finished? I like to collect all the books in the game and put them on shelves in my houses. In the mod's current state I can grab them from Tirwin's inventory, but I'm afraid that could mess up whatever ending could be planned.

At this point, we don't have an outline for the ending yet, but we probably won't require the books themselves through Tirwin or PC, because technically ‘they have been collected.’

2 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

I'll end with my thanks for making this. Not many mods with animal sex on them, and even less that accommodate a male PC (even if he got referred as a "woman" when addressing NPCs with information).

Let's be honest, when creating a mod, it's easiest to target it as ‘female PC only’ or ‘male PC only’ depending on the content. Taking male and female PCs into account adds complexity to the dialogues and scenes themselves. We also did not block sex scenes with animals for male PCs, even though they can have sex with a horse or a giant, which is strange to me, but others see it differently.

[leking]

7 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

 

 

-- For the other creatures, Tirwin says she will show me how to attract them, but that seems limited to just one round of sex with them. It would be nice to acquire some spell to attract the same creature whenever one wanted.

 

 

 

You can use a mod named "one with nature" that gives you the ability to choose exactly what behavior will have any creature in the game around your pc. At anytime you can just change it in the mcm. If you find it immersive that pc should not be attacked by creatures she leraned to have sex with then this small mod is perfect for you. I don't know if there is a LE version i use it on SE. 

 

then "aroused creature" gives you the ability to speak with them and ask them for sex.

Edited July 16, 2025 by leking

[killer905]

53 minutes ago, leking said:

 

You can use a mod named "one with nature" that gives you the ability to choose exactly what behavior will have any creature in the game around your pc. At anytime you can just change it in the mcm. If you find it immersive that pc should not be attacked by creatures she leraned to have sex with then this small mod is perfect for you. I don't know if there is a LE version i use it on SE. 

 

then "aroused creature" gives you the ability to speak with them and ask them for sex.

This yes?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54090

[leking]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

This yes?

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54090

 

Exactly.

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- For the other creatures, Tirwin says she will show me how to attract them, but that seems limited to just one round of sex with them. It would be nice to acquire some spell to attract the same creature whenever one wanted.

By the end of the next update, the PC will have spells to summon three creatures for sex.

12 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

-- Is anything being planned for the books once the quest is finished? I like to collect all the books in the game and put them on shelves in my houses. In the mod's current state I can grab them from Tirwin's inventory, but I'm afraid that could mess up whatever ending could be planned.

I doubt anything will be done with the books themselves. So, feel free to put them on a shelf somewhere.

12 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

I'll end with my thanks for making this. Not many mods with animal sex on them, and even less that accommodate a male PC (even if he got referred as a "woman" when addressing NPCs with information).

Do you recall who addressed your male PC as a woman? Sounds like a programming bug that could be easily fixed if I could find it. Also, I've been playtesting with a female PC, so I don't always have the male PC mindset in mind. Let us know if any dialogue/events sound wrong for a male PC.

 

As @killer905 mentioned, the troll scene plays better with a female PC. I think there's some text about the PC being knocked down, but it's not very immersive when you can walk around and watch helplessly.  One option would be to remove the trolls' invulnerability at the start of the sex scene. Then you could actually attack them while they were assaulting Tirwin. (Sexlab handles this. It stops when actors die.) However, this is such a foreign concept in Sexlab mods, I think people would be confused by it.

[leking]

i just had one idea.

 

Since sometimes tyrwin take random books in her hand and start to read; it would be fun to see her touching herself with the free hand while she read.

 

By the way where does this reading animation come from ? 

 

Any plans on some more random animated emote like that ?

 

would be fun if ragnar would sniff her ass some times or lick her pussy from behind while she just slightly bend over "Yes ragnar: momy loves you too" 

 

 

[Gristle]

35 minutes ago, leking said:

Since sometimes tyrwin take random books in her hand and start to read; it would be fun to see her touching herself with the free hand while she read.

 

By the way where does this reading animation come from ? 

The "reading book" animation is a vanilla Skyrim "idle" animation. SexLabAroused provides a couple of "touching yourself" "idle" animations, but you can't run both at the same time. That would require a new animation. 

35 minutes ago, leking said:

Any plans on some more random animated emote like that ?

 

would be fun if ragnar would sniff her ass some times or lick her pussy from behind while she just slightly bend over "Yes ragnar: momy loves you too" 

The next update uses a few more such vanilla idle animations, like an "examine" and a "take" animation. There's also a couple of "drinking" animations. And, the "warm self" has already been used by naked Tirwin as a "washing" animation. The next update also uses a couple of the SLA "touch yourself" animations. There's an interesting "note read" animation that would be good to use sometime too. There's a good number of vanilla animations, but most of them only work in very specific situations. The ones that work more generally are interesting, but not that useful (applause, blow horn, wave, pray, etc.). 

 

But what you're describing with two actors is beyond what you can do with an idle animation.  You would need a Sexlab type animation for that.

[Carnotaurus]

On 7/16/2025 at 1:53 PM, killer905 said:

 

The trolls should sexually attack the female PC and Tirwin, but in the case of the male PC, we didn't have much of an idea at the time. It was something like the male PC was knocked unconscious or something like that. However, he is still being observed by the male PC.

A male PC could be assaulted as well, per mods like "Defeat" here in LL. If previous beasts have used the male PC, perhaps a troll could as well. No idea how feasible there being only one in the cave initially, and as it is about to do its deed with Tirwin, a second one appears (it saw the PC and Tirwin enter the cave and went after them) and then assaults the PC.

 

On 7/16/2025 at 1:53 PM, killer905 said:

The restriction that the PC can only have sex with an animal once could be removed, but on the other hand, the player would probably not need to do it more than once. There are other creatures to visit. As for the spell, it is planned, but rather as a reward for completing the entire AR storyline.

The latter is what I meant, getting a spell to have sexy times with the beasts.

 

On 7/16/2025 at 1:53 PM, killer905 said:

Let's be honest, when creating a mod, it's easiest to target it as ‘female PC only’ or ‘male PC only’ depending on the content. Taking male and female PCs into account adds complexity to the dialogues and scenes themselves. We also did not block sex scenes with animals for male PCs, even though they can have sex with a horse or a giant, which is strange to me, but others see it differently.

Perhaps it could be addressed with some ambiguous words. Instead of them saying something like "what is a woman doing naked?" it could be changed to "why are you doing going around naked?"

[Carnotaurus]

22 hours ago, leking said:

 

You can use a mod named "one with nature" that gives you the ability to choose exactly what behavior will have any creature in the game around your pc. At anytime you can just change it in the mcm. If you find it immersive that pc should not be attacked by creatures she leraned to have sex with then this small mod is perfect for you. I don't know if there is a LE version i use it on SE. 

 

then "aroused creature" gives you the ability to speak with them and ask them for sex.

I have that mod in my current mod list, but sometimes I get the feeling that making the creatures tame is having some effects elsewhere. Can't exactly describe it, and could well be some conflict with some of the mods I am using.

[Carnotaurus]

17 hours ago, Gristle said:

Do you recall who addressed your male PC as a woman? Sounds like a programming bug that could be easily fixed if I could find it. Also, I've been playtesting with a female PC, so I don't always have the male PC mindset in mind. Let us know if any dialogue/events sound wrong for a male PC.

It was mostly the innkeepers when the quests directed me to talk to them for information where to find some of the creatures. I made a suggestion in a reply two lines above, though now that I think of it, it would mess up with the voices.

 

And I can deal with getting addressed as the wrong gender; happened all the time with the LE "Animal Mansion Plus". The animal encounters with this "Animal Research" had Tirwin and other NPCs correctly address my character as male.

 

I realize some find it odd to have male PCs take the place of a female, but the way I see it, maybe they *want* to, just like some business execs can secretly be submissive in some kinky situations. Perhaps after saving the world from Alduin, Mirak and that vampire lord (and Ancano in the College of Winterhold), maybe a male Dragonborn wants to unwind and let himself be dominated by a few friendly beasts (and perhaps some not so friendly).

[eflat01]

15 hours ago, leking said:

By the way where does this reading animation come from ? 

 

Any plans on some more random animated emote like that ?

 

would be fun if ragnar would sniff her ass some times or lick her pussy from behind while she just slightly bend over "Yes ragnar: momy loves you too" 

 

 

I'm pretty sure the reading is a base game idle animation in Skyrim - Meshes0.bsa or Skyrim - Meshes1.bsa (been a while since I unpacked those). It's used in some quest normally and falls into the general idle animations. So, you'd really not want to replace that. I'm sure @Gristle is using that idle when we hand her a book.

 

An animation would have to be created and added to have a reading/masturbating animation, I think that can be done, but seems a bit of work (effort) and I do not know if @Gristle or @killer905 have any experience creating animations?

 

That said they'd done a nice job with book covers, I use a set of NSFW textures for base game books, more colorful. 😉 

 

I can't help but think Tirwin could be singled out with OAR, for that matter Ragnar too, that's if someone wanted specific idles for them.

 

Most the time Tirwin in my game is one horny little elf. If you have Open Animation Replacer along with OSL Aroused or Sexlab Aroused you can have a ton of generic sexy idles fire off due arousal levels... I believe most of these are gun slicers and I forget where I collected some others, but here's an OAR idle set I use which will fire off based on npc's arousal values. I edit a ton of other's mods... into my own crap. 😉

 

 

Aroused Sexy Idles - OAR.7z

Edited July 17, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Carnotaurus said:

I have that mod in my current mod list, but sometimes I get the feeling that making the creatures tame is having some effects elsewhere. Can't exactly describe it, and could well be some conflict with some of the mods I am using.

 

I use Better Animals - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34459 edited a little to prevent some aggression - i.e. instead of bears, etc... chasing you down endlessly if you just walked near they chase but give up. I also use Naked Defeat and in such have creatures turn on so can surrender to them if we feel like it. That turn a creature's aggression off for SL animation but is rape, and it restores their behavior after the animation lapse time or you leave.  

 

Aroused Creatures - I set it off most the time and turn it off when I don't want interference  - such as being on a quest. If I have that on Ragnar and Shadowmere or any other critter in the radius would constantly screw the PC, Tirwin and nearly anyone else around. Most the time Ragnar seems hornier than a Chihuahua in heat.

Edited July 17, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

A male PC could be assaulted as well, per mods like "Defeat" here in LL. If previous beasts have used the male PC, perhaps a troll could as well. No idea how feasible there being only one in the cave initially, and as it is about to do its deed with Tirwin, a second one appears (it saw the PC and Tirwin enter the cave and went after them) and then assaults the PC.

 

The latter is what I meant, getting a spell to have sexy times with the beasts.

 

Perhaps it could be addressed with some ambiguous words. Instead of them saying something like "what is a woman doing naked?" it could be changed to "why are you doing going around naked?"

Personally, I don't know how a male would fit a troll's dick, but a troll would prefer a female to a male for sex, right?

 

considered, but probably not in its current state.

 

I was referring more to those typical of females, e.g. whore, bitch. They simply do not apply to males, but the general dialogue you provided is also acceptable.

[killer905]

4 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

And I can deal with getting addressed as the wrong gender; happened all the time with the LE "Animal Mansion Plus". The animal encounters with this "Animal Research" had Tirwin and other NPCs correctly address my character as male.

We plan to rebuild Animal Mansion Plus, but first we need to finish one mod that Gristle has.

 

 

[killer905]

3 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

I'm pretty sure the reading is a base game idle animation in Skyrim - Meshes0.bsa or Skyrim - Meshes1.bsa (been a while since I unpacked those). It's used in some quest normally and falls into the general idle animations. So, you'd really not want to replace that. I'm sure @Gristle is using that idle when we hand her a book.

 

An animation would have to be created and added to have a reading/masturbating animation, I think that can be done, but seems a bit of work (effort) and I do not know if @Gristle or @killer905 have any experience creating animations?

 

That said they'd done a nice job with book covers, I use a set of NSFW textures for base game books, more colorful. 😉 

 

I can't help but think Tirwin could be singled out with OAR, for that matter Ragnar too, that's if someone wanted specific idles for them.

 

Most the time Tirwin in my game is one horny little elf. If you have Open Animation Replacer along with OSL Aroused or Sexlab Aroused you can have a ton of generic sexy idles fire off due arousal levels... I believe most of these are gun slicers and I forget where I collected some others, but here's an OAR idle set I use which will fire off based on npc's arousal values. I edit a ton of other's mods... into my own crap. 😉

 

 

Aroused Sexy Idles - OAR.7z 177.32 kB · 0 downloads

You are right.

 

I personally I try creating some animations, but only in the pose version. This means that the character did not move.

If you look at my profile in files, you will see that I created a few, but without any suggestions, I quickly gave up on creating them.

Theoretically, I could create an animation, but I do not know how to attach a book to an animation. At least in Blender. 3ds Max 2012 However, I managed to do it, but for some reason the hand was distorted, while in the animation programme it was fine.

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

I realize some find it odd to have male PCs take the place of a female, but the way I see it, maybe they *want* to, just like some business execs can secretly be submissive in some kinky situations. Perhaps after saving the world from Alduin, Mirak and that vampire lord (and Ancano in the College of Winterhold), maybe a male Dragonborn wants to unwind and let himself be dominated by a few friendly beasts (and perhaps some not so friendly).

That's fine if the player wants to, and the mod certainly provides male PCs with that option, but I wouldn't want to force that onto male PCs, for example, in the case of the sex-crazed trolls.

[saferian]

On 7/18/2025 at 12:14 AM, killer905 said:

We plan to rebuild Animal Mansion Plus, but first we need to finish one mod that Gristle has.

 

 

 

I read this as "we are planning to become legends, and our fame will be sung across the galaxy."

[killer905]

1 hour ago, saferian said:

 

I read this as "we are planning to become legends, and our fame will be sung across the galaxy."

[丁真耶格尔]

Hello, why is it that every time Tirwin's animation plays, her position is always underground? I can only use the free camera to see the animation.

[killer905]

32 minutes ago, 丁真耶格尔 said:

Hello, why is it that every time Tirwin's animation plays, her position is always underground? I can only use the free camera to see the animation.

Do all animations from Rieklings, Boar, Naryu and PC look like this?

To me, it looks like this wooden platform is higher than, for example, in my game, but maybe it's just my impression. Another reason could be that this particular animation has different coordinates set for it to run than it should.