Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[shiki0.1]

No issues here, just wanted to let you know that I love the mod, looking forward to the next dlc update  

[Joodshi]

How could I add cocks to all the beasts?

[UsernameTaken666]

2 hours ago, Joodshi said:

How could I add cocks to all the beasts?

sigh…more nasty critters

[sniper5047]

Can you tell me what kind of mod these status icons are from?

[Paimoons]

so i got a problem where i was asked to speak with the innkeeper in raven rock about netch, but there was no menu to ask.

[Gristle]

17 minutes ago, nixagg said:

so i got a problem where i was asked to speak with the innkeeper in raven rock about netch, but there was no menu to ask.

The Dark Elf from the beginning of the quest should have force greeted you outside the inn. Go back outside and she should force greet you.

[Paimoons]

34 minutes ago, Gristle said:

The Dark Elf from the beginning of the quest should have force greeted you outside the inn. Go back outside and she should force greet you.

no, i mean the quest in solstheim, i already gave the netch book to tirwin, then i was told to ask the innkeeper, but when i asked there was no option to continue the quest

[eflat01]

35 minutes ago, nixagg said:

no, i mean the quest in solstheim, i already gave the netch book to tirwin, then i was told to ask the innkeeper, but when i asked there was no option to continue the quest

What Gristle is telling you is that they added in some misdirection to make the quest interesting (sent you to the inn keeper but you're confronted along the way).

 

Spoiler

At this point in the quest, "Narya" (the dark elf Tirwin knows from the Bannered Mare) is now in Solstheim just outside the Retching Netch. On your way to speak to the inn keeper, She'll walk up and force greet Tirwin as you approach the inn...  So do not run far ahead of Tirwin when playing the quests,   do not run past Naryu at this point. If you went into the inn just step back outside and hopefully she'll greet and talk with Tirwin.

 

1. She'll speak with Tirwin first.

2. She'll then speak with the player.

 

Edited March 20, 2025 by eflat01

[Paimoons]

44 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

What Gristle is telling you is that they added in some misdirection to make the quest interesting (sent you to the inn keeper but you're confronted along the way).

 

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At this point in the quest, "Narya" (the dark elf Tirwin knows from the Bannered Mare) is now in Solstheim just outside the Retching Netch. On your way to speak to the inn keeper, She'll walk up and force greet Tirwin as you approach the inn...  So do not run far ahead of Tirwin when playing the quests,   do not run past Naryu at this point. If you went into the inn just step back outside and hopefully she'll greet and talk with Tirwin.

 

1. She'll speak with Tirwin first.

2. She'll then speak with the player.

 

I have been waiting with Tirwin in front of the Retching Netch, but no one came.

[killer905]

2 hours ago, Paimoons said:

I have been waiting with Tirwin in front of the Retching Netch, but no one came.

Literally as you leave the mine, Naryu should be near the inn.

[leking]

For those who ask that you should have specific friendly animal interaction after you finish a quest with each race i just wanted to tell you that a mod called "one with nature" gives you the opportunity to chose what behavior will play each creature toward you (ally, friend agressive etc ) . All of this through a very short MCM config. So there is no point putting it in this mod since "one with nature" gives you full control to achieve the same.

[Paimoons]

19 hours ago, killer905 said:

Literally as you leave the mine, Naryu should be near the inn.

I didn't meet Naryu outside the inn

[Paimoons]

so i'm stuck here, i've tried re-teleporting, and waiting in front, and asking but there's no option to continue the quest

[killer905]

41 minutes ago, Paimoons said:

I didn't meet Naryu outside the inn

 

36 minutes ago, Paimoons said:

so i'm stuck here, i've tried re-teleporting, and waiting in front, and asking but there's no option to continue the quest

So type i consol

 

prid xx000fb0c

xx it's your modorder ID for Animal Research

 

Next:

enable

 

next:

moveto player

 

[Paimoons]

12 minutes ago, killer905 said:

 

So type i consol

 

prid xx000fb0c

xx it's your modorder ID for Animal Research

 

Next:

enable

 

next:

moveto player

 

it just teleports tirwin and nothing happens

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Paimoons said:

so i'm stuck here, i've tried re-teleporting, and waiting in front, and asking but there's no option to continue the quest

 

Makes no sense to me. You did not use the console to set stage had you? 

 

There's a script which enables and places Naryu in the quest . Without loading up the mod in CK  I think it's fired off via Dialog with Tirwin but don't know for sure, may be where she reads the book... I think it's Fragment_5 Gristle would know.

 

I saw code managing her concerning the Ashhopper and other things in that script. I also see it places her at a Barrel Marker... This may be the Reikling code but it's code in VAR_QF_VAR_Netch_075763DB.psc so I do not think so. It is the only section in the script enabling her and moving her.

 

;BEGIN FRAGMENT Fragment_5
Function Fragment_5()
;BEGIN CODE
setObjectiveCompleted(30)
setObjectiveDisplayed(40)
Naryu.MoveTo(BarrelMarker)
Naryu.Enable()
Naryu.EvaluatePackage()
;END CODE
EndFunction
;END FRAGMENT

 

Now then first thing I would do is see that Naryu is in the game via console.

 

~

Help "Naryu"

 

That will return a few things like her dialog, etc... but what We're looking for is her  " _npc Base from id" i.e. In my game she's 3100FB0A (starts with 31 because that's the mod's load order). Then We can start to try to find her "Reference Form ID" If that finds nothing - she's dead in your save.

 

If her Base Form ID is "3100FB0A" her "Ref Form ID" will be a slightly higher number but pretty close by... we do not know the ref id so.

 

i.e. with PRID commands results I got :

 

PRID  3100FB0B

... and I found Tirwin's Form  in my game

PRID  3100FB0C

... and grabbed onto Naryu Form in my game

 

At that point in console since she's in focus in the console (and make sure she stays in focus) We can do a lot with her (put her in a faction, make her essential, change her clothes, give her perks, etc...) I avoid doing these things though I even hate moving npc's, but the command :

 

ENABLE

MOVETO Player

 

should literally move her to the player and the only reason that could not happen is if she's was "deleted" or never really "enabled" before.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2025 by eflat01

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, Paimoons said:

it just teleports tirwin and nothing happens

You're showing us that you're latching onto Tirwin's Form ID with the moveto command. PRID will show you what you're focusing on, if you click the mouse or whatever you can change the focus, which is what I think you're doing.

 

Make sure you see that PRID is targetting Naryun and that you're not losing focus of her in the console. If she is xx00FB0C you can

 

xx00FB0C.MOVETO Player

 

if not then first do a 

 

help "Naryu"

 

Find the base ID then start looking upwards using a prid command to find her form ID. 

 

Her Form ID is  3100FB0C in my game but in your game she could be higher, she should be xx00FB0C in yours though a form ID dependent on her first initial spawning in. Like I posted previously Tirwin is xx00FB0B in my game.

 

So use PRID to find the Form Ref id.

 

try 

PRID 3100FB0C

PRID 3100FB0D

PRID 3100FB0E

... on up etc...

 

You can always see on a PRID what object it is you're grabbing.

 

BTW: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19250 is worth it's weight in septims.  

Edited March 21, 2025 by eflat01

[Paimoons]

15 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

She's PRID  3100FB0C in my game but in your game she could be higher...

 

try 

PRID 3100FB0D

thanks, found it, but still not triggering anything

[Paimoons]

23 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

She's PRID  3100FB0C in my game but in your game she could be higher...

 

try 

PRID 3100FB0D

after i moveto player niryu, he ignored me and went to the ship, then just disappeared

[killer905]

6 minutes ago, Paimoons said:

after i moveto player niryu, he ignored me and went to the ship, then just disappeared

Load save after you left mine but not near Inn. Teleport Naryu to yourself and go near Inn if she too far teleport her again.

 

Personaly i didinl;t had problems where NAryu wasent on island.

[Paimoons]

3 minutes ago, killer905 said:

Load save after you left mine but not near Inn. Teleport Naryu to yourself and go near Inn if she too far teleport her again.

 

Personaly i didinl;t had problems where NAryu wasent on island.

Is there a way to skip the quest to continue to the next step?

[eflat01]

6 hours ago, killer905 said:

Load save after you left mine but not near Inn. Teleport Naryu to yourself and go near Inn if she too far teleport her again.

 

Personaly i didinl;t had problems where NAryu wasent on island.

 

So then,  we know she's headed back to Skyrim from Ravenrock. IOW, She's following her previous package to sandbox around in the Bannered Mare. and she'd only do that if that's what her current package is. 

 

Looking in SsEdit I see this: 

 

Likely she's missing the package that should had been added to at that point (Stage 40)? It's VAR_NaryuBarrelFG package and looks like it happens on Stage 40 thus adding the forcegreet along with a dialog topic for her. 

 

 

So then, it also invokes the dialog topic with Tirwin.

 

I see the script has an EvaluatePackage() to get the package going.

 

setObjectiveCompleted(30)
setObjectiveDisplayed(40)
Naryu.MoveTo(BarrelMarker)
Naryu.Enable()
Naryu.EvaluatePackage()

 

I suppose we could add the package to Naryu  and force evaluation on her via console etc... which is difficult, BUT that also raises the questions in my mind as to how the player got to the stage 40 objective to begin with since objective 30 gets marked off as complete (check-marked) and stage 40 objective is set and displayed as todo in this script. 🤔

 

What is obvious is that this script completes stage 30  which was objective:  "I should give the netch book I've found to Tirwin. I think she'll find it interesting."  So, how did they even get to the objective of Stage 40 to  know to visit the inn keeper unless they set stages manually? 

 

The script must run when you talk to Tirwin and tell her here's the Netch Book and she looks at it. I'd suggest they do a sqs VAR_Netch. 

 

IMHO: What I would do is start the quest entirely over, or at least from a save before attaining the book. 

 

Btw... I can't think of many ways to break the mod without bypassing scripts really, the only way to do that is by getting so far the hell ahead of Tirwin or ignoring/cutting and skipping the dialog. 

Edited March 22, 2025 by eflat01

[tknob3]

the npcs from this dont spawn at all for me and the only mods i have is animal research and the rerquirements

its been very had to get skyrim to work with sex mods tbh

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, Paimoons said:

Is there a way to skip the quest to continue to the next step?

Yes. 'setstage VAR_Netch 50' in console will skip the conversation with Naryu.

[Gristle]

12 minutes ago, tknob3 said:

the npcs from this dont spawn at all for me and the only mods i have is animal research and the rerquirements

its been very had to get skyrim to work with sex mods tbh

When you walk into the Bannered Mare, do you see/hear the two elves talking to each other?