(WiP) A prostitution and player slavery mod 0.10.2c

[JahReit]

 

 

But I would love a way to permanently enslave the player. Something like the brilliant Slavetown Mod for New Vegas, just with more sex and a little humiliation.

And the more I follow the Progress of this forum the more my hopes get up that this will be one of the best Skyrim mods so far.

We can't say anything about that, as slavery is still pretty far away.

 

@ Hero:  I did not accept the whore job and continued my regular tavern work but Hulda never offered the whore position again.  Will this be fixed upon completion of the next chapter?

We're still thinking about how to handle this, but the mod will feature some definite ends, based on the players decission, which can't be reverted.

Atm this is one of them, which will be turned into something more appropriate as it stops the player from starting the main quest at all.

Alot has already been changed, but right now Hero fights with the CK again (which delayed the mod already way to much).

 

Are you saying that I will need a fresh start to continue progress upon completion of the next update?

[CGi]

This mod is an early WiP and we highly recommend to use the next version in a game that didn't have any previous versions of this mod in it.

it's stated in the OP, that this mod should under no circumstance be used in your main save game and due to the changes that have already been made, the new version would lead to log spamming, locked content and other stuff we can't forsee.

[Heromaster]

I already begun to make a switch to SexLab 1.30 and its new features. Most of the variables I used before are now pushed to SexLab. That allows me to add and remove them over time w/o destroying a savegame on new updates.

 

So yes, as CGi already pointed out the paragraph in the OP, you will need to start on a new update  from a point where APPS wasn't installed. If you want to start APPS from a progressed game you should do a save where you want to start and activate APPS. Then start from your fresh save and don't forget to deactivate it when you want to progress on your normal gameplay. Or use Mod Organizer to create profiles for WiP-mods in general and transfer your savegames between them.

 

Until the mod is in a stable phase, I will not remove this warning in the OP.

 

Edit: I finally solved the problems with the Creation Kit and can continue to work on APPS.

[germanicus]

Thanks Hero. Looking forward for your update.

[JahReit]

I already begun to make a switch to SexLab 1.30 and its new features. Most of the variables I used before are now pushed to SexLab. That allows me to add and remove them over time w/o destroying a savegame on new updates.

 

So yes, as CGi already pointed out the paragraph in the OP, you will need to start on a new update  from a point where APPS wasn't installed. If you want to start APPS from a progressed game you should do a save where you want to start and activate APPS. Then start from your fresh save and don't forget to deactivate it when you want to progress on your normal gameplay. Or use Mod Organizer to create profiles for WiP-mods in general and transfer your savegames between them.

 

Until the mod is in a stable phase, I will not remove this warning in the OP.

 

Edit: I finally solved the problems with the Creation Kit and can continue to work on APPS.

Could you sent the CK solution to Bethesda?  Maybe they could fix some of the problems they've ignored for so long.

[Snook0001]

Hi,

 

English is not my first language either.  I finally manage to level to Grand Master in all three categories.  I then run the mission to the point where Hulda evaluates me.  I wanted to succeed at everything since now I just need to go back to evaluate failure, etc... . I also worked more than the default 8 hours (it was still set to 8 hours).  She start her evaluation, at the one point she say you worked longer than your hours of labors then nothing happen for around two minutes.  She then say "you worked longer then half the agreed time, so you get paid fully".  She then continue on.  At one to the point she asked "did my guess treat you well or did you had any problem?" then she restart with the evaluation at "you worked longer then half the agreed time so you get paid fully".  Each time she takes me 92 septims (worst boss ever ).  If I try to leave the place I get a message like I did not notify her I was leaving and I have 3 seconds to get back inside before she notice.  I server 13 clients, five for foods, four for sex and four for dances.  It was a slow night .  All customer served sexually were unhappy in there comments (not encouraging ) but the dissatisfied notification on the top left corner was not there so there is still hope  and Hulda did not report any thing.   

 

I vote for a contract to bind her as it will open way more door than just sex with beast (done by some other mods already) Note:  this is where (not encouraging ) is significant.  We need the encouragement form the customer, so the pc is drawn more into that universe.  After all the easiest road is the one more walked on .

 

I also believe the contract should be made so the pc cannot succeed.

 

Beside that great idea, I'm really looking forward to where your story will take us.

[Snook0001]

This mod is an early WiP and we highly recommend to use the next version in a game that didn't have any previous versions of this mod in it.

it's stated in the OP, that this mod should under no circumstance be used in your main save game and due to the changes that have already been made, the new version would lead to log spamming, locked content and other stuff we can't forsee.

I started a new character especially for this, but I wonder if it should be not be made a little easier.  I mean I had to level my character to Grand master to stop receiving the dissatisfaction notice  on the top left corner for every customer after performing sex.  Maybe It should be less difficult or perhaps Hulda should keep the dragonborn as en employee regardless of her performance and offer the wore jobs only after all customer are happy. 

 

Maybe an option should also be added (to make it more realistic) where the dragonborn advise Hulda that she must go away in extended leave to slay a dragon or other mission to perform.

 

example: Hulda ask the dragonborn to come back tomorrow to work

 

The drgonborn reply sorry I can't I will be away for a few days

 

Hulda reply: No problem, come back when you can, it will be alright

 

Or something around those line...

[Heromaster]

 

Could you sent the CK solution to Bethesda?  Maybe they could fix some of the problems they've ignored for so long.

 

 

It's not a fix in general, just a dirty workaround which still doesn't work exactly how i would want it.

 

Hi,

 

English is not my first language either.  I finally manage to level to Grand Master in all three categories.  I then run the mission to the point where Hulda evaluates me.  I wanted to succeed at everything since now I just need to go back to evaluate failure, etc... . I also worked more than the default 8 hours (it was still set to 8 hours).  She start her evaluation, at the one point she say you worked longer than your hours of labors then nothing happen for around two minutes.  She then say "you worked longer then half the agreed time, so you get paid fully".  She then continue on.  At one to the point she asked "did my guess treat you well or did you had any problem?" then she restart with the evaluation at "you worked longer then half the agreed time so you get paid fully".  Each time she takes me 92 septims (worst boss ever ).  If I try to leave the place I get a message like I did not notify her I was leaving and I have 3 seconds to get back inside before she notice.  I server 13 clients, five for foods, four for sex and four for dances.  It was a slow night .  All customer served sexually were unhappy in there comments (not encouraging ) but the dissatisfied notification on the top left corner was not there so there is still hope  and Hulda did not report any thing.   

 

I vote for a contract to bind her as it will open way more door than just sex with beast (done by some other mods already) Note:  this is where (not encouraging ) is significant.  We need the encouragement form the customer, so the pc is drawn more into that universe.  After all the easiest road is the one more walked on .

 

I also believe the contract should be made so the pc cannot succeed.

 

Beside that great idea, I'm really looking forward to where your story will take us.

 

I did not wanted to make it that hard to have satisfied comments for the clients. Basically I was running out of dirty dialogue lines, what the customer could tell you after you had sex with him/her. Originally I planned to make it like a school-like system with marks ranging from 1-6 (or a-f for the us ppl). But that would have mean I resulted into 6 * 3 * 2 * 2 = 72 different dialogue lines to cover everything (A bit less but probably still around 50 different lines).

 

If I understood the rest of your post right: No, bestiality sex will never ever be part of the APPS except maybe in some bonus scenes but not as part of a side or main quest. Not consensual, not forced. Even if you manage to make your character a living sex object, he/she will still have enough dignity to not whore for customers who would wish to see their pet/animal ruining the Dovahkiin.

 

 

I started a new character especially for this, but I wonder if it should be not be made a little easier.  I mean I had to level my character to Grand master to stop receiving the dissatisfaction notice  on the top left corner for every customer after performing sex.  Maybe It should be less difficult or perhaps Hulda should keep the dragonborn as en employee regardless of her performance and offer the wore jobs only after all customer are happy. 

 

Maybe an option should also be added (to make it more realistic) where the dragonborn advise Hulda that she must go away in extended leave to slay a dragon or other mission to perform.

 

example: Hulda ask the dragonborn to come back tomorrow to work

 

The drgonborn reply sorry I can't I will be away for a few days

 

Hulda reply: No problem, come back when you can, it will be alright

 

Or something around those line...

 

 

I'm in the progress of changing the way sex will be evaluated. In the next update it will check the skill levels from the customers against yours in the profession you had with him/her.

 

The player can do whatever he wants to do. If you want to stay away for some days or weeks from the Bannered Mare, feel free to do so. It has no consequences. Later, when everything is implemented I will cover the dialogue lines to give you the option about talking with her on your mission, Since this is purely cosmetic right now, it is pushed back.

 

[shinji72]

Consider also not every PC is a dragonborn (or discovers he/she is the dovahkin). In my actual playthrough I'm level 20 and haven't started the main quest (not retrieved the dragonstone and not killed the first dragon). 

 

Would be nice for the dialogues to keep track of this. 

[shinji72]

I think this may interest you.

It was reported by WaxenFigure on the Sobbing after rape thread... 

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23601-idea-sobbing-after-rape/page-3?do=findComment&comment=606590

 

 

It's a crying animation and It's already in the game. 

 

Spoiler 

 

Animation is there, need a DDS file with tears on the face so it can be applied much like the cum shots are applied. 

[CGi]

Consider also not every PC is a dragonborn (or discovers he/she is the dovahkin). In my actual playthrough I'm level 20 and haven't started the main quest (not retrieved the dragonstone and not killed the first dragon). 

 

Would be nice for the dialogues to keep track of this. 

Already being considered.

 

I think this may interest you.

It was reported by WaxenFigure on the Sobbing after rape thread... 

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23601-idea-sobbing-after-rape/page-3?do=findComment&comment=606590

 

It's a crying animation and It's already in the game. 

We have no use for this yet (but maybe i do ... mmmhh...), but thanks for letting us know.

[grumbler]

CGi, if you need a scenario for bestiality, how about the tried-and-true "mage/scientist investigating something" scenario: a mage or scientist is studying wolves (or sabrecats, or whatever) and can't get close enough long enough to observe everything that he/she wants to observe about the animals' habits or whatever (you could make this specific, about, say, hunting habits, or leave it as general as you please).  During the course of the previous observations, the scientist (if female) or an assistant gets raped by one of the animals, and the other animals don't exhibit hostility to the victim (perhaps because she is aroused? - that would fit the arousal mod) and the scientist realizes that, if he/she places an enchanted ring (or amulet, or whatever) on an otherwise naked (and aroused?) female, the animals will accept her and the enchanted device can record what the animals do, thus satisfying the need for observations.  The PC is kidnapped (or "bought" from Hulda, perhaps) and forced into this role.  The animals will keep the PC from escaping unless the PC observes something about the animals that she can use to help her escape; otherwise, she is kept and abused for X time, at which point the mage/scientist rescues her to retrieve the enchanted item with the recordings.

 

That would make for a self-contained scenario that could even be repeated with different animals, and doesn't involve prostitution or the willing participation of the PC.  The PC could even be tricked into this scenario, and later blackmailed into repeating it because the mage or scientist has embarrassing recordings of the PC enjoying the sexual attention of animals.

[Snook0001]

:DI was thinking about the contract, and came to the conclusion that it should bind the pc through out all the nine hold.  It should also lead to the betrayal of the pc, maybe not as an ending but I one point she should realise she's been betrayed (maybe by one of her housecarls or friend?). 

 

Maybe a simple quest like she think she is doing some task (like the wolf round up but to be bused by them is a show later Not my idea, it was proposed earlier)). 

 

It could also be something worthy (like an alternate to the Alduin quest, in which she would end up kind of sacrificed to it) If its possible to play with the script at that level.  I don't know much about programing so I may be talking through my hat. 

 

Could be also something epic like an accord between the jarls and the various Daedric lords.  Since the pc will probably be the champion of some of them and is supposed to serve them after death (example: served Nocturnal and Hermaeus Mora), I imagine some will not be too please to learn their prise will be deny.  So the player character could find herself taken in a quest to get rid of the Dedric lords while all the time it is a means set by the mage of the college and the jarls to do exactly that but also knowing that the Daedric lord will accept no other payment than the pc.

 

I think I'm getting carried away.    Anyway, hope it gives you some idea.

 

So far I like what I've seen, good work

[mogon]

 

*snip*

 

I'm in the progress of changing the way sex will be evaluated. In the next update it will check the skill levels from the customers against yours in the profession you had with him/her.

 

maybe you can additionally use the arousal-level of customer + prostitute to evaluate the success? 

Maybe the pc can raise the arousal with some erotic dancing (making the customer horny) and drugs (for the prostitute)

 

[CGi]

Drugs go in the direction of forced/submission, which will not happen in the bannered mare.

 

As for the dancing: Nice idea but would be hard to implement. We'll take a look at what's possible.

[Snook0001]

I have two request:  well one is really dependent of the way your plan your quest.  If the pc is a vampire, would it be possible to add a mean for her to drink blood from the guest while having sex?  There is no better thing in life than sex, blood and rock 'n roll .  This lead to my second request:  Please, please, change the bard, he is horrible and will eventually scare the customer away .  After two nights of earing him, I feel like I will get mad.  Maybe put a women bard... anyone but him... please...

[CGi]

We're working in a solution to shut him up for good, but as he's associated to a quest, this is not the easiest task unless we just make him disappear ... which is a valid option.

[kralgar1]

Ohhhh there once was a hero named Ragnar the red

[CGi]

You mean "There once was a Hero and his surname was Master", right? ^^

[CGi]

The poll for which animal you want to see in the first bonus scene ends this sunday (UTC -8).

 

The post with the infos of the poll can be found here.

[Heromaster]

I have two request:  well one is really dependent of the way your plan your quest.  If the pc is a vampire, would it be possible to add a mean for her to drink blood from the guest while having sex?  There is no better thing in life than sex, blood and rock 'n roll .  This lead to my second request:  Please, please, change the bard, he is horrible and will eventually scare the customer away .  After two nights of earing him, I feel like I will get mad.  Maybe put a women bard... anyone but him... please...

 

Well, I could substitute Mikael for Heimskr. Deal?

[CGi]

Mmmh... trading lousy singing with bad timing for someone yelling with an annoying voice?
i would actually like someone who tells everyone constantly about his arrow accident and his following new life.

Decissions, decissions...

 

 

[monolith]

I support this. It would also solve the problem if a customer pinches a sweetroll, one of the most common crimes in skyrim.

 

Finally you could answer with "yes, HE did, but mind your knees, he's got a bow"

[Reigor]

Is the bard associated with more that one quest? If its only to stop him from flirting with the market lady, then perhaps after that quest is completed he will pack his bags and leave?

 

As for bestiality, for me it really depends on the scene and circumstances in question, some examples...

 

If the character is effectively enslaved in private club or underworld tavern ( or some other establishment where the law of the land is not enforced), then for the entertainment of the customers she might be thrown in a pit with a wolf or other predatory beast whose last meal was laced with aphrodisiacs. 

 

If instead she is whored out or enslaved to a country estate run by a depraved couple, then taking care of the horses in the stables, either by force or by bondage, would fit in my opinion.

 

The previous mentioned mad wizard/sorceress experimenting with giant spiders or other monsters to use the character as an egg incubator.

 

Though the animations likely don't support it, the use of a snake as a part of "anal training" would certainly be possibly demeaning and erotic.

 

I like to see Estrus tentacles be used as part of a storyline as well, though they aren't technically bestiality. In my push for a cruel Mistress mod, would love to see a Domme who used such as magical spells as well as other magics on the character as punishment or amusement.

 

So my opinion is that as long as bestiality is used as a tool to further the character along into a life of degradation and sexual slavery I'm all for it, no matter which animal.  As long as its not a focus of the mod so such events uncommon and therefore more special.

 

 

[jxm]

 

As for bestiality, for me it really depends on the scene and circumstances in question, some examples...

 

So my opinion is that as long as bestiality is used as a tool to further the character along into a life of degradation and sexual slavery I'm all for it, no matter which animal.  As long as its not a focus of the mod so such events uncommon and therefore more special.

 

I second this. In fact I hope that everything about this mod, including the more extreme bonus-scenarios, will have a mostly serious tone, without much (un)-intentional humour or over-the-top-scenarios, which would fit better into a Fallout NV-mod (nutty professors, dimension-hopping, cross-breeding, whatever )

 

The atmosphere, both scenarios and dialogue/characters, hopefully will fit into the rather dark and more realistic (yeah, magic and realism, I am aware of that contradiction... ) setting that Skyrim gladly gave us - unlike the rather comic-like Oblivion. But as far as I could see by now, this "danger" seems small. I'd just wanted to voice this opinion