Heromaster Posted January 5, 2014 Author Posted January 5, 2014 Too many CTDs when saving and such so I decided to uninstall. I couldn't even advance to the whoring jobs with all the bugs. And yes, I do realize it is a beta. Guess I rushed into a install at first because I liked the reaction to progression in the story. Would like to try again when this mod has gotten some polish. I love the idea and hope APPS really goes places! CTD's should not be caused by APPS. If you experience CTD alot on saving you have other issues. I tried it on a fresh character and it seems to be a great start, I had alot of issues with patrons ordering food or sex and then another showing up for the reward or waiting for the food. I also tried to end my day an Hulda looped on me so I had to back up and uninstall. I really hope this or Radiant gets some love, it will be a fun way to start a character. What kind of issues you experienced? Mind to tell explain it more in detail? Got stuck in loops at different points within the first couple days. Also i think it broke the Inn, the right corner facing the door is dislodged now. I managed to get to the first stage of the whore test on one save so up to that point it was alot of fun. I didnt think id have so much fun being a waitress. Awesome mod thanks. The 'loop' is probably caused by other mods which call their scripts in intervals and interrupt or delay my script, which is responsible to continue the dialogue, on slower machines. That's why I never experienced it and had spent alot of days to locate it. I placed the script to another location which hopefully gives it enough time to be executed properly. That said, this bug still might be occur, if you spam the mouse button to skip Hulda's dialogue. In the meantime try to not skip the dialogue where she is going to pay you and tell me if this bug still occurs.
hmgirlpopuri Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Too many CTDs when saving and such so I decided to uninstall. I couldn't even advance to the whoring jobs with all the bugs. And yes, I do realize it is a beta. Guess I rushed into a install at first because I liked the reaction to progression in the story. Would like to try again when this mod has gotten some polish. I love the idea and hope APPS really goes places! I was exploring Radiant Prostitution and ran into CTDs on save. In my case it was a bug with SexLab itself associated with the Free Camera option. Saving soon after an animation with Free Camera would result in a CTD. If you're not in the whoring job then that might not be it, but it's something worth checking.
JahReit Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 If you want to make working as tavern wench more exciting and profitable, don't accept the whore offer so you can continue serving customers, and install lively taverns http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19841/? That mod puts about 40 to 50 patrons in Bantered mare from 6 pm to 3 am. I removed all the females, about half, leaving around 20 to 25 males. Well, I didn't remove hulda of course nor the grey-mane wench. After your first day working for hulda and she tell you you're great, come back tomorrow after rest, you can go off adventuring and come back a few days later and still have your job as tavern wench/male patrons plaything. Don't lose your tavern outfit, put it in a safe place if you do go off wandering, hulda does NOT have a spare for you! Don't forget to tesvedit clean lively taverns mod. Glad to see you back with us Hero! Now a word from CGi would also be comforting
Nomenklacher Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 The 'loop' is probably caused by other mods which call their scripts in intervals and interrupt or delay my script, which is responsible to continue the dialogue, on slower machines. That's why I never experienced it and had spent alot of days to locate it. I placed the script to another location which hopefully gives it enough time to be executed properly. That said, this bug still might be occur, if you spam the mouse button to skip Hulda's dialogue. In the meantime try to not skip the dialogue where she is going to pay you and tell me if this bug still occurs. It seems to be working good at this point. I had had a couple of follower mods that placed them in the Inn that i think were causing the problem. I uninstalled them and a few other mods and no major problems came up. Sometimes it glitched when serving Uthgerd so i avoided her, but other than that any loops were fixed by reloading a previous save. Also the wall is fixed now. I've no idea what caused it to break or what fixed it.
Vuulgar Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 Too many CTDs when saving and such so I decided to uninstall. I couldn't even advance to the whoring jobs with all the bugs. And yes, I do realize it is a beta. Guess I rushed into a install at first because I liked the reaction to progression in the story. Would like to try again when this mod has gotten some polish. I love the idea and hope APPS really goes places! CTD's should not be caused by APPS. If you experience CTD alot on saving you have other issues. I tried it on a fresh character and it seems to be a great start, I had alot of issues with patrons ordering food or sex and then another showing up for the reward or waiting for the food. I also tried to end my day an Hulda looped on me so I had to back up and uninstall. I really hope this or Radiant gets some love, it will be a fun way to start a character. What kind of issues you experienced? Mind to tell explain it more in detail? Got stuck in loops at different points within the first couple days. Also i think it broke the Inn, the right corner facing the door is dislodged now. I managed to get to the first stage of the whore test on one save so up to that point it was alot of fun. I didnt think id have so much fun being a waitress. Awesome mod thanks. The 'loop' is probably caused by other mods which call their scripts in intervals and interrupt or delay my script, which is responsible to continue the dialogue, on slower machines. That's why I never experienced it and had spent alot of days to locate it. I placed the script to another location which hopefully gives it enough time to be executed properly. That said, this bug still might be occur, if you spam the mouse button to skip Hulda's dialogue. In the meantime try to not skip the dialogue where she is going to pay you and tell me if this bug still occurs. For my part I had a big issue with one person ordering but another waiting for the food, at one point the person who would accept the order had apparently left the shop, they entered just as I was about to restart. I also had times when the patrons would stop recognizing me as an employee. I really hope it comes together, this seems like a fun way to start a character to add an interesting back story. What I got through seemed immersive enough I would love to progress. Thanks for your efforts!
Nomenklacher Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 For my part I had a big issue with one person ordering but another waiting for the food, at one point the person who would accept the order had apparently left the shop, they entered just as I was about to restart. I also had times when the patrons would stop recognizing me as an employee. I really hope it comes together, this seems like a fun way to start a character to add an interesting back story. What I got through seemed immersive enough I would love to progress. Thanks for your efforts! That happened a few times most of them Uthgerd became the new target for the order which is why i was avoiding her. I just reloaded and tried again with someone else and it seemed to fix it. Never had them not recognize me tho or if they did i just didn't notice it. I did notice yesterday that at times if you talk to hulda before the quest arrow appears she wont take the order.
candykanekiller Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Okay so when i Get to the part where I have sex with the two laides for eval to be a whore when the sex ends I cant move most of the time, but when I can they will not talk to me about what just happend and the lady who runs the bar will not either. I should also mention a text box appears saying somthing about a vesions and being a beta or somthing. It comes and goes so fast I cant read it. plus I ctd as well alot on saves.
CGi Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 More bugs was discovered and will be fixed.But this ofc delays the next release.
Deamionzero Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Have to say that this mod sounds absolutely awesome! Hoping to see it grow so much! Keep up the great work, Hero and CGI!!
CGi Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Heros and my plans for APPS was already pretty detailed and became even more detailed the more we worked on it and read thru suggestions and critics. So right now we're adding alot of those details which takes some time (10 minute playtime need up to 1h in development), so please bear with us as we won't rush things.
carnifex Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 Heros and my plans for APPS was already pretty detailed and became even more detailed the more we worked on it and read thru suggestions and critics. So right now we're adding alot of those details which takes some time (10 minute playtime need up to 1h in development), so please bear with us as we won't rush things. Sure, take all the time you need. I'm sure it will be well worth the wait!
Heromaster Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 I have some questions to you guys. Is someone of you interested in beautifying the two whore actors? (The two which are going to test you) Because we need a few more NPC's we want to ask you, if you would like to create some actors. We would gladly appreciate your help in this section. What we need are some priests, travellers, wanna-be and real hero-like adventurers. If you would like to create some of this we will include them with your outfit created. If you like you also can name them and create a little backstory. We then will let the users vote which NPC's you created should be included later. Just a few points we are looking for: Diversity: We need males as well as females, young as well as old, beautiful as well as ugly Stay close to lore: That means no skimpy or extravagant outfits on those NPC's. A priest should be easily intentified as a priest, for example. UNP or CBBE clothing: Thank to caliente and his outfit studio it doesn't matter if the outfit and weapons are made for UNP or CBBE. We will convert them so both parties will see the same outfit. As a restriction: Either use vanilla items or items where the author gave his permission to distribute parts of his item mod in other mods. Naming: If you name your NPC, give them a proper name. A Nord with a Khajiit name is not a proper name except you can convince us otherwise through an interesting backstory.
Hanshin Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 i can help with creating story backround for characters, + names/dialogues, but i dont know how to create them body/texture wise with armor as npc ^^
Para Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Habt ihr schon einen Plan, wann nächstes Update in etwa kommen soll?
CGi Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Not really, as one of our new ideas might conflict with Aroused Animations, so we got to think this thru again. And other small stuff that keeps us busy and away from releasing a new version, like bugs & incompatibilities in APPS and real life itself. Right now all we do, is priorize and try to get stuff done.
Heromaster Posted January 10, 2014 Author Posted January 10, 2014 I want you to inform what happened between the past release and now. These are the things I have done until today: Fixed the bug where Hulda repeatly gave you money w/o advancing her dialogue (Took me like ages to find out why it happens) Changed the logic of approaching a potential customer to make use of the new SexLab features (Like if you had sex with this customer before) Changed the way packages are applied to NPC's so that it makes use of the new Papyrus Util (So now customers should never leave the inn when they ordered something) Polished the sex scenes (Now the PC should always be in the 'serving' position) and get rid off of the aggressive sex animations Took a break and enjoyed x-mas and New Year Prepared some variables so other modders can use them to be aware of APPS (At a much later point other modders can feed APPS with their own created events) Began to write the documentation for above point Cursed the Creation Kit many times (Didn't help though) Fixed the performance evaluation after you had sex with a customer (Now it evaluates the differences between your sex skills and those of the customer) Wrote some new dialogues to reflect the changes Enjoying Skyrim with a fresh new character (That did helped) Gave the player more control over his character back (Sneaking is back, yeah) Rewrote some scenes to make them less complex and to avoid some plot holes (Nope, I will not spoiler them) As for the next release: I don't know when, there is still much to do and I want to release the next version with a working tavern and whore job which you can always repeat and switch between them.
germanicus Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Thanks HeroM. You worked hard and it's being appreciated. Looking forward for your new release. Can't wait.
CGi Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 On top of that a sad news: The planed bonus scene will not make it into the next release, as i'll tie it to a new functionality that the next update won't have in it's full form.This should make the bonus easier to find and more immersive with APPS itself. Please bear with it as this was already a hard decission. On the other side: i may be able to put bonus scene 1 part 1 and 2 into the next update that has the full functionality. Sorry, but i think that's a good decission. But feel free to prove me wrong.
jxm Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 On top of that a sad news: The planed bonus scene will not make it into the next release, as i'll tie it to a new functionality that the next update won't have in it's full form. This should make the bonus easier to find and more immersive with APPS itself. Please bear with it as this was already a hard decission. On the other side: i may be able to put bonus scene 1 part 1 and 2 into the next update that has the full functionality. Sorry, but i think that's a good decission. But feel free to prove me wrong. Of course i can only speak to myself but: The bane of many modern games are rushed releases. Mods should not follow that trend. So many potentially great games (looking at you, Mass Effect ) were rushed and full of bugs, stupid design decisions and general silliness which ould have been avoided. So, as far as mods go, even when the waiting is hard to bear, I prefer you take your time and release something you are content with. Chances are higher then that we'll be happy too
MonaBabii Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Good to hear the mod is moving forward and as long as it is moving I don't particularly mind the pace =D Like the user above mentioned, rushing things only makes the experience worse and then that leads to headaches for both developer and fan parties, as well as unfair rating of the product. All of that said, Heromaster, whenever you're almost ready to release the update I ask you to please, please, pick at least one person to review the grammar of the dialog in the mod as a mod that has no voice acting shouldn't really be a big deal when it comes to enjoying it, but when text is all there is to interacting with say, a quest giver, the grammar should be a top priority. Having said that and considering the huge grammar psycho that I am, I'd be more than willing to be one of those people to help refine it Do let me know if you're at all interested! Keep up the great work guys. P.S.: Already had a little conversation with CG! about this matter and figured it'd be a good idea to make a public post about it, as perhaps there's a few more people that would be interested in helping with grammar as well, or the overall wording of the dialog =D
carnifex Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 A student of English linguistics with half a year of experience editing an English magazine reporting for duty! I'll gladly help with this great project, so feel free to PM me if you need help tightening the dialogue.
nutluck Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 I decided to wait for the next version before trying it with the recent changes to sexlab etc. I do have one request/suggestion that may or may not be possible. If it is not possible no worries, but if it is then cool. Have you considered adding a optional tie in with Radiant Prostitute? It seems it would be odd if someone wanted to use both but have to talk to Hulda two times to switch between the whoring aspects of the two mods. Even something as simple as if you taking up whoring in this mod it also turns it on for RP and would count customers. Like I said it might not be possible but thought I would throw it out there. Since there is a lot of great mods on this site, just wish more of them worked well together.
CGi Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 Not possible to the extend we would want it to and as we don't want another hard dependencie we skipped this idea for the time being.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now