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dieer

dieer

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2 hours ago, SaintReitine said:

This mod is kinda bugged for me. I put on the hobble dress, but it doesn't affect the player movement or anything. Also, the ballgags doesn't open the mouth.

Are you sure you have run Nemesis and installed Mfg Fix NG?, it almost sounds like you have missed to do that.

LooksWhosHere

LooksWhosHere

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yo the armbinder glitches when using ostim sex scene ? happening to anyone ? and also I'm using unforgiving device and whenever theres an orgasm animation it alwsy plays 1_2 animation even tho theres like 5

akassss

akassss

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On 12/18/2024 at 5:40 AM, DrunkPancake said:

Having the similar issues I think.

They are visible but no physics happening.

 

Anyone have any idea how this is supposed to work. I have DAV.

sorry,Google translation.

 

The json file is written


  "variants": [
    {
      "name": "DDNG_NipplePiercings",
      "displayName": "",
      "replaceByForm": {
        "Devious Devices - Expansion.esm|01492E": "Devious Devices - Expansion.esm|100024"
      }
    }
  ],
  "states": [
    {
      "variant": "DDNG_NipplePiercings",
      "conditions": [
        "GetIsReference Player == 1"
      ]
    }
  ]
}

 

But Devious Devices - Expansion.esm is missing 100024.

Krylzov

Krylzov

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Hi, i've tried using this mod but i got a ctd after creating a new character (i'm using alternate start - live another life). I've downloaded the requirments for this mod but not those for the original mod and also i'm using ostim instead of sexlab

killia

killia

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Hi, having an issue with DD SE + DD NG overwriting, namely that the armbinder, while loads, does not actually hold the characters arms and the hands are invisible

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CaptainJ03

CaptainJ03

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On 12/22/2024 at 1:04 PM, Krylzov said:

Hi, i've tried using this mod but i got a ctd after creating a new character (i'm using alternate start - live another life). I've downloaded the requirments for this mod but not those for the original mod and also i'm using ostim instead of sexlab

This reads like "I've bought this new Formula One car and want to plough my field. Crashes as soon as I leave the road. Do I need to put diesel in the tank?"

Of course this doesn't work, DD SE runs on SexLab, and DD NG runs on DD SE.

 

5 hours ago, killia said:

Hi, having an issue with DD SE + DD NG overwriting, namely that the armbinder, while loads, does not actually hold the characters arms and the hands are invisible

Load order, let DD NG load after DD SE. Did you disable the DD SE patch, as is said on the landing page?

Hands not exisiting in the armbinder is the wanted behaviour (yes, it looks weird when some animation triggers that shouldn't because you're bound)

 

15 minutes ago, himanshushah said:

Can anyone please confirm which file comes first in Load order DD 5.2 OR DD NG ?

Let DD NG overwrite DD SE, it comes with its own esps. And remember to disable the DD SE patch esp.

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Caligula27

Caligula27

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Happy holidays everyone.

 

I got what is hopefully I small issue that may require just a basic reminder. Short version is that some restrains, like straitjackets, cause my character and npc calves to disappear. Not whole legs just the calves. The strict rope armbinder makes my hands black and lastly the catsuits cause the breasts to stretch into the ground.

 

This screams to me like this is a bodyslide issue. I have rebuilt and rebuilt the assets with different body presets and yielded the same results.

 

If anyone would like to give their two cents while I troubleshoot, I would gladly appreciate it.

 

Cheers.

IcicleInn

IcicleInn

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20 hours ago, himanshushah said:

Thanks a lot @CaptainJ03 . But now i am stuck in another challenge, while wearing armbinder my hands are not bind, hands are floating in the air while running. request you to please guide what i am doing wrong.

This usually means that your walking animation is higher priority than your armbinder walking animation.  The most commonly cited cause of this is FNIS Sexy Move, but it's not always the case.  If you do have FNIS sexy move installed, a fix tweak can be found here:

 

12 hours ago, Caligula27 said:

I got what is hopefully I small issue that may require just a basic reminder. Short version is that some restrains, like straitjackets, cause my character and npc calves to disappear. Not whole legs just the calves. The strict rope armbinder makes my hands black and lastly the catsuits cause the breasts to stretch into the ground.

I had the shadow-hands-in-strict-armbinder problem way back and cannot for the life of me remember what the fix was... But any clothing stretching to the ground is usually a HDT SMP / Faster SMP install issue.  For the missing body parts, perhaps making sure your CBBE Body Amazing is built correctly in addition to your DD parts?

Edited by IcicleInn
ArcticWuf

ArcticWuf

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I can't get creature animations to work with DD equipped.

 

Removed arm binder, gags and plugs and still nothing. It looks like it's about to start, then suddenly the PC gets equipped with a black leather dress briefly for some reason, the actors teleport, and the NPC's bug out but the PC is able to walk around.

 

 

I installed DD 5.2 -> DD NG -> Disabled the DD SE Patch -> then installed DD Equip (to equip the DD for testing) -> then ran FNIS & BodySlide

 

No clipping or issues with any of the DD's that I can see and the animations seem to be working correctly. I just get get any SL animations to play with other actors. Ideally I'd like it to use animations with armbinds if they're on, but if none are available, then just remove them temporarily (which I think I need another mod for?) as opposed to not doing any animation at all.

 

Current mod list & general load order 

"SKSE64 INI PRE DOWNLOAD"

"Skyrim Script Extender - SKSE"

"Address Library for SKSE Plugins"

"JContainers"

"Fuz Ro D'oh"

"Papyrus Extender"

"Papyrus Tweaks NG"

"powerofthree's Tweaks"

"Skyrim Utility Mod - SUM"

"Unofficial SSE Patch"

"SSE Engine Fixes"

"SSE Display Tweaks"

"High performance configuration"

"Paired Animation Improvements"

"Open Animation Replacer"

"Animation Limit Crash Fix"

"Animation Queue Fix"

"Crosshair Ref Events Fix"

"SMP NPC Crash Fix"

"Mfg Fix"

"Mfg Fix NG"

"Crawl When Sneaking"

"SexLab Framework"

"SexLab Aroused Redux"

"Creature Framework"

"ZAZ Animation Pack+"

"ZAZ Faster Furniture"

"The New Gentleman"

"SkyUI"

"Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM"

"UIExtensions"

"MCM Helper"

"Dynamic Armor Variants"

"RaceMenu"

"Enhanced Lights & FX - ELFX"

"ELFX Fixes"

"Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO"

"Skyrim Immersive Creatures - SIC"

"SIC - 4K Texture Pack"

"Creature Overhaul"

"Immersive Armors - IA"

"IA - CBBE Patch"

"Underwear"

"SlaveTats"

"Devious Devices"

"Devious Devices - NG"

"Devious Devices - Equip"

"BodySlide and Outfit Studio"

"Spell Perk Item Distributor - SPID"

"Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS XXL"

"FNIS - Creature Pack"

"XPMSE"

"CBPC"

"CBBE"

"CBBE 3BA"

"CBBE SMP"

"Faster HDT-SMP - FSMP"

"Vanilla Hair Remake - VHR"

"VHR - NPCs"

"BnP - Male Skin"

"BnP - Female Skin"

"SexLab Aroused Creatures"

"SexLab Aroused Creatures Tweak"

"More Nasty Critters - MNC"

"MNC - Creature Summoner"

"One With Nature - OWN"

"OWN - SIC Patch"

"Bad Dog's Immersive Creatures - BDIC"

"BDIC - Creature Framework Patch"

"BDIC - SexLab Patch"

"BDIC - MNC Patch"

"BDIC - ArousalSpell"

"SC Horse Replacer"

"SC Horse Replacer - SSE Patch"

"SexLab LightMeUp"

"SexLab Ammo Unequip"

"SexLab Werewolves Redux"

"SexLab Inflation Framework"

"SexLab MatchMaker"

"SexLab Tools"

"SexLab Facial Expressions"

"SexLab Animation Loader - SLAL"

"SLAL Furniture Animations"

"Ayasato's SLAL Animations"

"Dogma's SLAL Animations"

"3jiou's SLAL Animations"

"K4 SLAL Animations"

"Sir Nibble's SLAL Animations"

"Leito's SLAL Animations"

"Billyy's SLAL Animations"

"Billyy's SLAL Animations - RAPE REDUX"

"FlufyFox SLAL SE Human"

"FlufyFox SLAL SE Creatures"

"Anub's SLAL Animations"

"Funny Bizness SLAL Animations"

"BakaFactory's SLAL Animations"

"BakaFactory's Animated Beasts Cocks"

"No More Stupid Dog"

"NCC2020SE"

"Live Another Life"

"BodySlide Output"

"FNIS Output"

 

Caligula27

Caligula27

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11 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

This usually means that your walking animation is higher priority than your armbinder walking animation.  The most commonly cited cause of this is FNIS Sexy Move, but it's not always the case.  If you do have FNIS sexy move installed, a fix tweak can be found here:

 

I had the shadow-hands-in-strict-armbinder problem way back and cannot for the life of me remember what the fix was... But any clothing stretching to the ground is usually a HDT SMP / Faster SMP install issue.  For the missing body parts, perhaps making sure your CBBE Body Amazing is built correctly in addition to your DD parts?

Yeah I had the issue of the black hands as well a long while back, what fixed it for me was updating to 5.2. Back when Bethesda didn't needlesly update the game out of the blue (good times). Well hopefully a quick resintall of Faster SMP will fix it, although Vortex constantly tells me that mod plugin's is incompatible even though I have the latest build of it?. Maybe you can spell out for me how to work bodyslide. Here is what I do: 1) open bodyslide, 2) Select body preset. 3) batch build outfits. 4) open game and enjoy. That is all I have done in the past back when I played tons of skyrim.

 

Thanks for your input.

IcicleInn

IcicleInn

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23 minutes ago, Caligula27 said:

. Well hopefully a quick resintall of Faster SMP will fix it, although Vortex constantly tells me that mod plugin's is incompatible even though I have the latest build of it?. Maybe you can spell out for me how to work bodyslide. Here is what I do: 1) open bodyslide, 2) Select body preset. 3) batch build outfits. 4) open game and enjoy.

I mean, first off you shouldn't have Vortex telling you a plugin is incompatible...  That usually means that something is wonky with your load order or with the required files for that plugin, or you're somehow not using the right version for your particular game version.  

 

As for bodyslide, that's generally correct though if you have enough gear mods you should be filtering for the new stuff you installed.  Also of note there's a checkbox at the bottom of the bodyslide that can be selected when you have a bunch of variants on the gear, like the standard DD equip does.  That said if you do a full batch build you usually have to go through a bunch of checkboxes determining which version of an outfit you want to us. 

 

In my experience, if you have missing bodyparts when equipping an outfit, it's because you've built an outfit that doesn't connect correctly to your current body (since a lot of outfits will have the body built into the outfit).  This may be as simple as having one outfit with multiple "models" and using the wrong model as the master.

Caligula27

Caligula27

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7 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

I mean, first off you shouldn't have Vortex telling you a plugin is incompatible...  That usually means that something is wonky with your load order or with the required files for that plugin, or you're somehow not using the right version for your particular game version.  

 

As for bodyslide, that's generally correct though if you have enough gear mods you should be filtering for the new stuff you installed.  Also of note there's a checkbox at the bottom of the bodyslide that can be selected when you have a bunch of variants on the gear, like the standard DD equip does.  That said if you do a full batch build you usually have to go through a bunch of checkboxes determining which version of an outfit you want to us. 

 

In my experience, if you have missing bodyparts when equipping an outfit, it's because you've built an outfit that doesn't connect correctly to your current body (since a lot of outfits will have the body built into the outfit).  This may be as simple as having one outfit with multiple "models" and using the wrong model as the master.

 

That is cool. I didn't know bodyslide could do that. That might be the cause of the issue. I am so used to the OLD bodyslide that it took me a bit to find out what exactly you were talking about.

 

So I am bit confused as to why this is not exactly working. So I got 3BA  and have set all the outfits to 3BA versions but now upon loading my safe file, I was in the middle of the dollmakers quest in which you get used as a shibari model, now the calves are loaded, the fingers are still black but now the breasts have shrunk? And I just did the opposite and with and set all my outfit to CBBE and my characters breasts are back to normal but my calves are missing again. I am so confused right now. I will try again tomorrow. 

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I might just get a CBBE preset and call it a day since I am thinking that it is actually the preset and all that stuff

SNvF35q7

SNvF35q7

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So, we Add Devious Devices SE, and then Devious Devices NG, allow the latter to overwrite the former.

Then, what is compatible? All other plugins based on DD SE? Any? Any tested? Is this listed somewhere I haven't seen?

no_way

no_way

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On 12/12/2024 at 2:09 PM, zarantha said:

 

For obody, you need to build the zeroed sliders preset. I haven't heard of any similar issues in the masterstroke list that also uses obody, so it's likely you built the wrong preset and changing your body ends up adding the new morphs ontop of old morphs, making things not fit right.

Naw I built all the zeroed presets

IcicleInn

IcicleInn

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1 hour ago, Caligula27 said:

 

That is cool. I didn't know bodyslide could do that. That might be the cause of the issue. I am so used to the OLD bodyslide that it took me a bit to find out what exactly you were talking about.

 

So I am bit confused as to why this is not exactly working. So I got 3BA  and have set all the outfits to 3BA versions but now upon loading my safe file, I was in the middle of the dollmakers quest in which you get used as a shibari model, now the calves are loaded, the fingers are still black but now the breasts have shrunk? And I just did the opposite and with and set all my outfit to CBBE and my characters breasts are back to normal but my calves are missing again. I am so confused right now. I will try again tomorrow. 

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I might just get a CBBE preset and call it a day since I am thinking that it is actually the preset and all that stuff

Good luck...

 

You know, as I remember, that is the exact quest that I had problems with black fingers on.  I think the quest uses a different asset from the normal DD strict armbinders for whatever reason and that was like the first step in me just removing DCUR from my load order.  If you have a secondary save before getting locked in you can type

 

help strict 4 armo

player.additem <Code> 1

 

in the console and dropping a different strict armbinder into your inventory and see if you still have the problem.  It definitely sounds like some weird Bodyslide or outfit glitch though...

chaimhewast

chaimhewast

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10 hours ago, SNvF35q7 said:

Then, what is compatible? All other plugins based on DD SE? Any? Any tested? Is this listed somewhere I haven't seen?

Anything that uses the DD framework should work out of the box. Mods that overwrite framework scripts will likely break it due to the various changes, however.

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Caligula27

Caligula27

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20 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

Good luck...

 

You know, as I remember, that is the exact quest that I had problems with black fingers on.  I think the quest uses a different asset from the normal DD strict armbinders for whatever reason and that was like the first step in me just removing DCUR from my load order.  If you have a secondary save before getting locked in you can type

 

help strict 4 armo

player.additem <Code> 1

 

in the console and dropping a different strict armbinder into your inventory and see if you still have the problem.  It definitely sounds like some weird Bodyslide or outfit glitch though...

 

The more I investigate this the weirder it gets. So I officially stating that this might be a problem with the 3BA outfit for the "Ropeharness (Full)" and I please if anyone else is using 3BA tell me if you are experiencing this issue. Reason why I think the outit because for some reason upon closer look the outfit IS using the preset. The rope that goes over the breasts does follow the outline of preset but the actual breasts are shrunk. I messed around with a few of the sliders while having the preview window open and the only thing that is affected is the rope but not breasts. 

 

This the first time I have encountered such a weird issue. Unless someone comes along and either disproves or backs up my claim is really hard to say what the actual source of the problem is.

zarantha

zarantha

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On 12/26/2024 at 9:42 PM, Caligula27 said:

 

That is cool. I didn't know bodyslide could do that. That might be the cause of the issue. I am so used to the OLD bodyslide that it took me a bit to find out what exactly you were talking about.

 

So I am bit confused as to why this is not exactly working. So I got 3BA  and have set all the outfits to 3BA versions but now upon loading my safe file, I was in the middle of the dollmakers quest in which you get used as a shibari model, now the calves are loaded, the fingers are still black but now the breasts have shrunk? And I just did the opposite and with and set all my outfit to CBBE and my characters breasts are back to normal but my calves are missing again. I am so confused right now. I will try again tomorrow. 

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I might just get a CBBE preset and call it a day since I am thinking that it is actually the preset and all that stuff

 

23 hours ago, IcicleInn said:

Good luck...

 

You know, as I remember, that is the exact quest that I had problems with black fingers on.  I think the quest uses a different asset from the normal DD strict armbinders for whatever reason and that was like the first step in me just removing DCUR from my load order.  If you have a secondary save before getting locked in you can type

 

help strict 4 armo

player.additem <Code> 1

 

in the console and dropping a different strict armbinder into your inventory and see if you still have the problem.  It definitely sounds like some weird Bodyslide or outfit glitch though...

 

Yes, DCL has it's own assets for some of those quests. And that is DCL's bug, not DD's or DD NG's.

 

How to fix black hands -  


 

 

2 hours ago, Caligula27 said:

 

The more I investigate this the weirder it gets. So I officially stating that this might be a problem with the 3BA outfit for the "Ropeharness (Full)" and I please if anyone else is using 3BA tell me if you are experiencing this issue. Reason why I think the outit because for some reason upon closer look the outfit IS using the preset. The rope that goes over the breasts does follow the outline of preset but the actual breasts are shrunk. I messed around with a few of the sliders while having the preview window open and the only thing that is affected is the rope but not breasts. 

 

This the first time I have encountered such a weird issue. Unless someone comes along and either disproves or backs up my claim is really hard to say what the actual source of the problem is.

 

That is a bodyslide issue, but not one you can fix unless you're ok with working with outfit studio.
But it looks fine in bodyslide for me using the DD NG sliders, and i haven't loaded the game recently. do you also see the issue in bodyslide's preview if you move the breast sliders?


For this outfit, i don't think DD NG changed anything so you might be able to work around it. (or try using one of the beta builds on the discord, which is what i have)
temporarily disable DD NG

launch bodyslide and build the ropeharness (full) outfit

enable DD NG again

see if it's working in game

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