nutluck Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 I was asked a few times, it is doable. But I prefer not to Implement this since it would create too much stress on papyrus. Maybe If I implement somthing like : http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23675-sim-clothing-evaluation-update-071213/?hl=%2Bclothing+%2Bevaluation that works only for player, but not for the rest of NPCs, then it might be working with resonable stress on system. Yes that is what I meant, if you could make it for the PC only. I am fine with the NPC's have just nude or dressed options. I was only talking about it would be nice to have options for the PC's clothes. Sorry if I was unclear. Lets say it is working, so how does it effects arousal? Some would say that totally naked is most arousing, others would say that dressed in sexy skimpy clothes is more arousing then naked. Yeah I know some of it is to personal preference on that. I would just say evenly split it. So for example maybe something like this but numbers would need to be tweaked. I am going with a multiplier but a simple addition would work too. Assuming the base is 2.0 Fully clothed x1 = 2.0 partially reveling clothes x1.5 = 3.0 Sexy/very reveling clothes x2 = 4.0 nude x2.5 = 5.0 Anyways I was thinking something like that. Since it would be the PC only you wouldn't have to assign numbers ahead of time to types of clothes since the player could set them to any setting the want. You could have 5 settings since the player would assign their clothes to a rating. The two main reason I am suggesting this is so you can have a middle ground between clothed and nude. Also so you can leave the global rating down but have a PC wear clothes that incite the NPC's more. So you don't have to set each NPC. Anyways just a idea I thought would make this more user friendly and add some variety.
Vrex Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Is time arrousal supposed to not change at all until the npc or character first has sex? The reason I ask is because I noticed that NPC arousal was not increasing at all unless affected by exposure and it seems that it is because the hours since last sex defaults to -1 and wont change until an actor has had sex. I also have a suggestion regarding the satisfied buff, would it be possible to add a check to see if the player had been raped before applying the satisfied buff? It seems wrong that one would feel satisfied after being raped. Thanks for all the time you're put into writing these mods, the possibilites they provide for much more immersive experiences is quite enjoyable.
redneck2x Posted December 28, 2013 Author Posted December 28, 2013 Is time arrousal supposed to not change at all until the npc or character first has sex? The reason I ask is because I noticed that NPC arousal was not increasing at all unless affected by exposure and it seems that it is because the hours since last sex defaults to -1 and wont change until an actor has had sex. I also have a suggestion regarding the satisfied buff, would it be possible to add a check to see if the player had been raped before applying the satisfied buff? It seems wrong that one would feel satisfied after being raped. Thanks for all the time you're put into writing these mods, the possibilites they provide for much more immersive experiences is quite enjoyable. Yes, "Hours since last sex" does not change until first time had sex. But exposure is always effected. Arousal buff/debuff reflect arousal level which drops greatly for victim after sex, maybe word "satisfied" is not so good. To have debuffs for victim you can install Lover's Victim. Why not just ask the player to rate how arousing the clothes are on a number scale and let them decide what is most arousing? If naked was 4 of 5, or 8 of 10, on the arousing scale then the option is there, and really the player doesn't need to be told what any of the other numbers should be because he can decide that himself. Or maybe they can be asked how arousing their nude body is too, lol. I don't like setting things often in MCM menu (or even dialgues), since it is immersion breaking, but prefer every thing work automatically. So on each time PC changes clothing, I don't want to go to MCM to change settings.
luffyboy Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Just wanted to be sure. Disabling the cloak spell would simply mean that only the PC arousal is active right? I'm using aroused as a way to mimic sexual desire like how RND creates the need for food and sleep. Don't really need other NPC's arousal just yet and wouldn't want to stress my game with too much scripts running.
redneck2x Posted December 28, 2013 Author Posted December 28, 2013 Just wanted to be sure. Disabling the cloak spell would simply mean that only the PC arousal is active right? I'm using aroused as a way to mimic sexual desire like how RND creates the need for food and sleep. Don't really need other NPC's arousal just yet and wouldn't want to stress my game with too much scripts running. Disabling cloak effect would disable "Naked" arousal both for PC and NPC, but would reduce greatly stress on papyrus. Every thing else would still work, like arousal from seeing sex.
Vrex Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Is time arrousal supposed to not change at all until the npc or character first has sex? The reason I ask is because I noticed that NPC arousal was not increasing at all unless affected by exposure and it seems that it is because the hours since last sex defaults to -1 and wont change until an actor has had sex. I also have a suggestion regarding the satisfied buff, would it be possible to add a check to see if the player had been raped before applying the satisfied buff? It seems wrong that one would feel satisfied after being raped. Thanks for all the time you're put into writing these mods, the possibilites they provide for much more immersive experiences is quite enjoyable. Yes, "Hours since last sex" does not change until first time had sex. But exposure is always effected. Arousal buff/debuff reflect arousal level which drops greatly for victim after sex, maybe word "satisfied" is not so good. To have debuffs for victim you can install Lover's Victim. My suggestion was worded poorly, it wasn't so much the name of the buff as the fact that after being raped your character would still "feel" satisfied and be rewarded with increased skill gain, when it should be the opposite shouldnt it? I was thinking it should be one of two buffs/debuffs for the 0-20 stage: the current satisfied buff or give reduced weapon effectiveness or something and not give increased skill gain on top of the arousal drop. I do use Lover's Victim and I had actually forgotten that it requires this mod.... I can understand why you would be hesitant to change buff properties from a mod that doesn't directly deal with rape in order to account for it since not everyone plays with rape mods or Lover's Victim but might still use this mod. So instead of changing the Satisfied buff would it be possible to negate it's effect with the Lover's Victim debuff? I realize this mod isn't meant to punish the player for what happens during gameplay but rather to reflect the character's state of mind. I just keep thinking it's a bit weird that my character get's rewarded every time it gets raped. I can always change it for myself but I just thought I'd throw my thoughts out there for you since it would be best if you made the changes.
luffyboy Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Hey redneck2x heard that submit is going to have soft compatibility with aroused. That is awesome news. Anyway I was wondering and also a request to you or any experience modder. Would it be possible to create a mod that adds an aphrodisiac potion which can be used to mix with drinks that can be offered to people at taverns? Additionally a mod that creates speech options that have a chance to increase npc's arousal (one time use per npc controlled by 24 hour cooldown so it doesn't get spammed) /decrease arousal. It would really add more depth to these two great mods
hryh23k9823u Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Im having a problem, and its that the button to check the arousal level doesnt work, no matter where i bind it, and I can't check npc's either, in fact Im not sure if my character arousal level is changing, I would think so, however sometimes after sleeping her desires 'are satisfied' so it definetively not working as it should for me xD It is not the first sexlab mod that used to work and now it doesnt (hentai pregnancy and radiant prostitution doesnt work for me anymore either), the only new thing is sexlab being updated (not in my current savegame, where I started from sexlab 1.30), but I dont see more people having the same problems so Im clueless ;-;
redneck2x Posted December 29, 2013 Author Posted December 29, 2013 Im having a problem, and its that the button to check the arousal level doesnt work, no matter where i bind it, and I can't check npc's either, in fact Im not sure if my character arousal level is changing, I would think so, however sometimes after sleeping her desires 'are satisfied' so it definetively not working as it should for me xD It is not the first sexlab mod that used to work and now it doesnt (hentai pregnancy and radiant prostitution doesnt work for me anymore either), the only new thing is sexlab being updated (not in my current savegame, where I started from sexlab 1.30), but I dont see more people having the same problems so Im clueless ;-; Had you extracted .BSA file? If yes delete files at Data/Scripts/sla*.pex. Be very careful when you delete!!! Also preform clean save, that might help. If it does not help pm me your papyrus log after playing for a some time. Hey redneck2x heard that submit is going to have soft compatibility with aroused. That is awesome news. Anyway I was wondering and also a request to you or any experience modder. Would it be possible to create a mod that adds an aphrodisiac potion which can be used to mix with drinks that can be offered to people at taverns? Additionally a mod that creates speech options that have a chance to increase npc's arousal (one time use per npc controlled by 24 hour cooldown so it doesn't get spammed) /decrease arousal. It would really add more depth to these two great mods Framework is build for such things in mind. For example : aphrodisac potion should increase Exposure rate to lets say to 10, then if NPC would be exposed to any adult content NPC arousal would go high very fast. I welcome such modifications, but I don't have time to implement them.
hryh23k9823u Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Im having a problem, and its that the button to check the arousal level doesnt work, no matter where i bind it, and I can't check npc's either, in fact Im not sure if my character arousal level is changing, I would think so, however sometimes after sleeping her desires 'are satisfied' so it definetively not working as it should for me xD It is not the first sexlab mod that used to work and now it doesnt (hentai pregnancy and radiant prostitution doesnt work for me anymore either), the only new thing is sexlab being updated (not in my current savegame, where I started from sexlab 1.30), but I dont see more people having the same problems so Im clueless ;-; Had you extracted .BSA file? If yes delete files at Data/Scripts/sla*.pex. Be very careful when you delete!!! Also preform clean save, that might help. If it does not help pm me your papyrus log after playing for a some time. There are 5 files like that installed by Sexlab Aroused, I'll delete them? The mod will work without them? I need to install the bsa? I'm kinda noob and I have my MO set to auto-extract every mod that comes with .bsa, and its not the first time that I need to delete a .pex file to have something working... Well, gonna test like that xD
redneck2x Posted December 29, 2013 Author Posted December 29, 2013 Im having a problem, and its that the button to check the arousal level doesnt work, no matter where i bind it, and I can't check npc's either, in fact Im not sure if my character arousal level is changing, I would think so, however sometimes after sleeping her desires 'are satisfied' so it definetively not working as it should for me xD It is not the first sexlab mod that used to work and now it doesnt (hentai pregnancy and radiant prostitution doesnt work for me anymore either), the only new thing is sexlab being updated (not in my current savegame, where I started from sexlab 1.30), but I dont see more people having the same problems so Im clueless ;-; Had you extracted .BSA file? If yes delete files at Data/Scripts/sla*.pex. Be very careful when you delete!!! Also preform clean save, that might help. If it does not help pm me your papyrus log after playing for a some time. There are 5 files like that installed by Sexlab Aroused, I'll delete them? The mod will work without them? I need to install the bsa? I'm kinda noob and I have my MO set to auto-extract every mod that comes with .bsa, and its not the first time that I need to delete a .pex file to have something working... Well, gonna test like that xD Generally it is not good idea to extract .BSA files unless it is necessary. But currently you are "trapped" and have to extract .bsa files, since otherwise the mods will not update properly. To fix this you need carefully clean only extracted files mod by mod. Starting from SexLabAroused: 1. First backup all /Data/Scripts/ folder 2. Then delete following files: /Data/Scripts/slaCloakEffScr.pex /Data/Scripts/slaConfigScr.pex /Data/Scripts/slaMainScr.pex /Data/Scripts/slaPlayerAliasScr.pex /Data/Scripts/slaUtilScr.pex 3. and also delete /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_CHINESE.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_CZECH.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_ENGLISH.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_FRENCH.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_GERMAN.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_ITALIAN.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_JAPANESE.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_POLISH.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_RUSSIAN.txt /Data/Interface/translations/SexLabAroused_SPANISH.txt 4. Then verify that you still have /Data/SexLabAroused.bsa file
hryh23k9823u Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Fortunately for me I use Mod Organizer so I dont have any mod mixed or stuff in my data folder, and I just need to right click and reinstall this mod... however now I have to figure out how to disable auto-extract since I disabled the promt that usually ask you when you install a mod >.> However I've got the feeling that this is gonna be the problem, so thanks for the help and the support and the awesome mods +10 ) Edit: Yeah now it works perfectly indeed ^^
DonJulio Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 This mod is great but I'm having the following problem: the mod is telling me that my desires are satisfied and my arousal level is dropping instead of increasing. Under the puppet master menu it's saying my time rate is negative (-8). I'm running Sexlab 1.31 and aroused v 20131222. Suggestions appreciated.
Herrmannesque Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 I've updated to the latest version of Aroused, along with Sexlab and several other Sexlab related mods over the last couple of days. I have a feeling that Aroused is not working properly now. My character's Arousal level does not seem to change from 0 now but I am able to check the Arousal levels of my companions when I hit the 'N' key. Any suggestions for fixing this?
Dapper Dan Pomade Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 I had the same issues, I kept getting the time scale turn into the negatives and have arousal steadily decrease; I just disabled the time scale change thing so arousal builds at a flat rate. Now it works fine.
nutluck Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Ok after a bit of tweaking I got this working fine now along with Lovers Victim. In addition to the PC only clothes setting I made early about some middle ground between clothed and nude. I have another suggestion as well. In puppet master window allow the user to change the hours since last sex as well. I think that is one of the things causing a issue sometimes. Since that seems to not always update. I have had NPC's and creatures(using the dogs/horses lovers victim add on by someone else) stay set at -1 or -2 hours and they just never change. Sometimes, sometimes if I zone out and zone back into the area they will start working but not every time. If we was able to adjust that, it should fix that small issue. Anyways just a suggestion. Edit: Oh final thing I noticed the desire spell is not showing up even though it is ticked to be activated in the main menu. Just a FYI.
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 A modding question. I am trying to give Sanguine a permanent erection as part of changes to Sanguine Debauchery +. What would be a good way to force an NPC into a set aroused state? (say... 100?). Edit: I could see other situation where it would be useful to set arousal of an NPC (or the player) to an arbitrary value... sex oriented potions (Viagra Ale?), succubus effect (drain arousal of an NPC for points or set arousal to maximum automatically when succubus shape is revealed...). That sort of things...
Herrmannesque Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 When I'm checking the arousal status of my NPC, it seems to be going down, from one cell to another. Definitely broke something when I upgraded to the latest version...
NicoleDragoness Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I noticed one strange thing into my latest Papyrus.log. There are some lines that say: "[named npc] get x arousal to have seen Aela naked". Well, Aela was walking with me in Riften. She wears a skimpy Drangonscale armor, the same I wear. I did NOT make this armor as "naked dress" in the MCM and there are no lines about NPC got arousal point seeing ME naked (with the same armor, as I wrote). What's the trick? Edit - Addendum: Noticed the same line referred to [me] got x points of arousal seeing "high level Fornsworm" naked". Well, of course, the Formsworn was not naked but he weared his Formsworn's armor. It seems there is something wrong with the tags (vanilla) of some armors.
redneck2x Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 This mod is great but I'm having the following problem: the mod is telling me that my desires are satisfied and my arousal level is dropping instead of increasing. Under the puppet master menu it's saying my time rate is negative (-8). I'm running Sexlab 1.31 and aroused v 20131222. Suggestions appreciated. When I'm checking the arousal status of my NPC, it seems to be going down, from one cell to another. Definitely broke something when I upgraded to the latest version... I had the same issues, I kept getting the time scale turn into the negatives and have arousal steadily decrease; I just disabled the time scale change thing so arousal builds at a flat rate. Now it works fine. Negative time rate is a bug. Set time rate cooldown to 0 that would lock all time rates for all actors to default 10.0. I am already working on new version, there it would be more much more simple and stable. Ok after a bit of tweaking I got this working fine now along with Lovers Victim. In addition to the PC only clothes setting I made early about some middle ground between clothed and nude. I have another suggestion as well. In puppet master window allow the user to change the hours since last sex as well. I think that is one of the things causing a issue sometimes. Since that seems to not always update. I have had NPC's and creatures(using the dogs/horses lovers victim add on by someone else) stay set at -1 or -2 hours and they just never change. Sometimes, sometimes if I zone out and zone back into the area they will start working but not every time. If we was able to adjust that, it should fix that small issue. Anyways just a suggestion. Edit: Oh final thing I noticed the desire spell is not showing up even though it is ticked to be activated in the main menu. Just a FYI. If "Hours Since Last Sex" is -2 then it means that NPC is virgin. And "hours since last sex" will remain -2 until NPC has sex. A modding question. I am trying to give Sanguine a permanent erection as part of changes to Sanguine Debauchery +. What would be a good way to force an NPC into a set aroused state? (say... 100?). Edit: I could see other situation where it would be useful to set arousal of an NPC (or the player) to an arbitrary value... sex oriented potions (Viagra Ale?), succubus effect (drain arousal of an NPC for points or set arousal to maximum automatically when succubus shape is revealed...). That sort of things... It is impossible to set arousal directly, since it is overwritten all the time by the mod. But you can set Exposure rate of the NPC to 10. Then NPC would get aroused very fast from any exposure to adult content. Also set Time rate to high value, then NPC would get aroused very fast as time passes. Note at next version there will be many changes and bug fixes to "Time Rate" I noticed one strange thing into my latest Papyrus.log. There are some lines that say: "[named npc] get x arousal to have seen Aela naked". Well, Aela was walking with me in Riften. She wears a skimpy Drangonscale armor, the same I wear. I did NOT make this armor as "naked dress" in the MCM and there are no lines about NPC got arousal point seeing ME naked (with the same armor, as I wrote). What's the trick? It is a bug. The mod remembers last necked NPC, and uses the NPC to arouse nearby NPC. Until mods finds another naked NPC Aela going to arouse everybody.
nutluck Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Ah ok, well I can see that. But of course it still now makes me wish you could change that with puppet master setting in arousal thing. So you could remove the -2 effect so they would start going up like everyone else.
Uriel Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Well, how do we update? Regular "Clean save" method? Just overwrite? Can't find a word about it in the description. Thanks for the new version.
redneck2x Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 Just posted new version v20131230. To update just copy new files over old ones. Changes: v20131230, requires SexLab 1.32+ (will NOT work with older versions) - Time since last sex is GET from SexLab API, much better way then using 3 factions. - Time Rate and Exposure Rate is now stored with StoreUtil.dll. Modders can still use factions directly ONLY TO GET values, set/update only through API - Time rate is decaying exponentially : It is reduced by one third within time set MCM menu - Orgasm reduces exposure by ("actual animation duration"/"default animation duration")*20 - Lock Arousal now locks full arousal and not only time since last sex, I actually can not lock the time since it is now managed by SexLab - Removed "Custom Naked Armor" page and removed "Current Armor List". Now only items with "ArmorCuirass" and "ClothingBody" keywords are displayed and can be toggled. - "Naked" armor tag is attached directly to armor formid with StoreUtil.dll, much better and faster way to work with armors - Fixed last naked actor is re-checked for clothes - Some changes to API function names - Now default gender preference is take from SexLab Sexuality, can override with MCM Same thing in English: Due to new good changes in SexLab there are many internal changes in SLAroused Few mods that use SLAroused might need update to work with last new version, for example I also posted new version of Lover's Comfort. Though most mods should work as is. Again tweaked how "Time Rate" changes, it is still experimental. If you don't like it then set "Time Rate Decay Speed" to zero in MCM menu. You might notice that "Custom Naked Armor" page MCM has gone. Now "Naked" armor selection is greatly simplified, you can only toggle items that are taggad by vanilla game as not naked. Edit : I rushed this the release. Renamed version to BETA, I do not recommend to use it until other mods update to new APIs
nutluck Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I will give this a try as soon as you let us know that Lovers Victim works with the updated arousal. Since that is the main mod that I use that uses it.
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