{UPDATE - Elin Voice v2.1 with Throw Voice Replacer Options} Tera Elin Race

[PsychoMachina]

Before checking the hairs myself, I have to ask, do you happen to have the Numenume Hairs plugin running in your game?  This adds copies of the hairs that are glitchy if used by the Elins.

 

Well, I'll likely check the hairs anyway.

[Mud]

Only the Elin version of Numenume is running in my game. 

[PsychoMachina]

Okay, sorry for the delay.  Try these Numenume hairs.  They are the complete Numenume hairs + the HDT hairs.

 

ElinRace_Numenume+HDT_Hairs.7z

 

I have not noticed any problems with the HDT hairs other than the hairs floating on her head, but that means I need to use the alt head/morph files.

 

The Elin-Meridia HDT hairs contain those alt files.

 

 

[Mud]

Thank you, I'll give them a test run when I have a chance.

[Mesarthim]

So for the most part everything seems to be working, including compatibility with better vampires but I do have a question or two. Is the Elin size problem still a thing (work in progress?) when it comes to small elins doing an adult animation? At first I thought it was crazy until I read about it early on in this thread. Minor issue though, including the drunken huntsman followers (just need to catch them tiny if I want them) and 3 element mage followers (putting them there just because).

 

While my 1st person camera does indeed work it seems to shrink down if I ever tinker with showracemenu. I can reset the camera if I quit skyrim and reload the 3rd person camera mod (unless that part is unncecessary, but it does seem to fix the 1st person camera). Think it also shrunk down after I got on the cart for the Diplomatic Immunity mainline quest. I don't use vampire lord to find out if that affects it too (I'm a vampire that doesn't care about vampire lords). I believe my load order is fine as there are no performance issues though it's just a matter of avoiding a minor problem with a quick fix.

 

Edit: Forgot to ask. Is the small elin sinking into chairs thing normal or is there a fix for that?

[hacker23]

Hey,

Just wondering; I am using ECE and would like to know if it's possible to get a variety of sliders. I'm mainly looking for thigh sliders but any will do. I tried using the ECE Extended Sliders .ini edits which works to an extent, but most of the sliders it adds does not work for this Elin race.

 

Anyway, love your work and thanks for putting this mod out.

[PsychoMachina]

So for the most part everything seems to be working, including compatibility with better vampires but I do have a question or two. Is the Elin size problem still a thing (work in progress?) when it comes to small elins doing an adult animation? At first I thought it was crazy until I read about it early on in this thread. Minor issue though, including the drunken huntsman followers (just need to catch them tiny if I want them) and 3 element mage followers (putting them there just because).

 

While my 1st person camera does indeed work it seems to shrink down if I ever tinker with showracemenu. I can reset the camera if I quit skyrim and reload the 3rd person camera mod (unless that part is unncecessary, but it does seem to fix the 1st person camera). Think it also shrunk down after I got on the cart for the Diplomatic Immunity mainline quest. I don't use vampire lord to find out if that affects it too (I'm a vampire that doesn't care about vampire lords). I believe my load order is fine as there are no performance issues though it's just a matter of avoiding a minor problem with a quick fix.

 

Edit: Forgot to ask. Is the small elin sinking into chairs thing normal or is there a fix for that?

 

The 1st-person camera is an ongoing problem.

Elins NPCs are, for the most part, replacers for the vanilla NPCs so they will continue using the adult animations.  You can try these fixes which removes the markers that makes all races change scale when using certain animations (example, forge and enchanting table).

 

Remove RV Markers

RV Markers-41304-1-5.7z

 

Remove RV Markers - Hearthfires

RV Markers HF-41304-1-7.7z

 

To fix the Elin sinking into chairs, try the HDT Sitting Height Fix which requires SKSE.  There will be minor clipping, but not as bad as when not using the fix.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53995

 

 

Hey,

Just wondering; I am using ECE and would like to know if it's possible to get a variety of sliders. I'm mainly looking for thigh sliders but any will do. I tried using the ECE Extended Sliders .ini edits which works to an extent, but most of the sliders it adds does not work for this Elin race.

 

Anyway, love your work and thanks for putting this mod out.

 

I'll have to modify ECE XS to work with the Elins and maybe do the same with the latest XPMS Extended.

[hacker23]

Ah, I see. Thank you!
I also wonder if you might know why this is occuring:

The character with no clothes has much larger thighs than the character wearing clothes; they are the same character and I have not changed any settings or scales between the screenshots.  The size of the thighs only changes when I put on clothes such as the ones being worn in the screenshot. Is there a way around this? I would like my character to have large thighs like this while wearing clothes.

[Trollirious]

Ah, I see. Thank you!

I also wonder if you might know why this is occuring:

The character with no clothes has much larger thighs than the character wearing clothes; they are the same character and I have not changed any settings or scales between the screenshots.  The size of the thighs only changes when I put on clothes such as the ones being worn in the screenshot. Is there a way around this? I would like my character to have large thighs like this while wearing clothes.

it depends on what body type that outfit has you must find the right body mesh if you want that ^-^ hopefully that helps

 

since it is the first Elin race its going to be tricky i must say though since i use Elin 2 alot but still give it a shot

[PsychoMachina]

The Elin body shapes are a mix of modified skeletons and body meshes.  When equipping typical CBBE or UNP armors, you'll lose the Elin shape because the body that is attached to the armor is not modified for the Elin shape.  Just like armor for one body needs to be converted for a different body in order for the armor to fit that other body, so does this needs to be done for the Elins. 

 

 

[hacker23]

Oh, I think I understand. I think I was downloading the wrong armors, actually. I tried getting some TBBP UNBP ones off LL and they seem to be working fine now; thank you for your help though. I'll give your Elin2 a go, see if I like it.

[hacker23]

Hey sorry for the double post:

I have ElinRaceTaint from ElinRace NPC and Enemy v3.1 installed, but I'm not encountering any NPC Elin in the game.

I have ElinRaceTaint.esm enabled. What might be causing this?

[PsychoMachina]

ElinRaceTaint.esm adds the Elin hairs (not to be confused with the Skyrim hairs such as Apachii, zzJay, etc.).  What you need to look for are the plugins that get installed for each NPC/Enemy options.

• Elin Race NPC.esp (changes certain named NPCs, for example, Lydia).
• Elin Race NPC.esp (Hearthfires Housecarl edition)(same as Elin Race NPC, but also includes Rayya).
• Elin Race New NPC.esp (adds generic NPCs throughout Skyrim especially in Whiterun and College of Winterhold).
• Elin Race Enemy.esp (changes some of the generic enemies that is added by the game).
• Elin Race Enemy NR.esp (adds new enemies to the level list; these are non-replacers).

So depending on what options you chose during installation, you will have ElinRaceTaint.esm (to add the Elin hairs to the NPCs) and the plugins (to change or add Elin NPCs).

 

[Ayn Sof]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but is there any way to change the neck thickness?

the neck is kind of too big for my taste

[PsychoMachina]

I'm working on adding additional sliders for Elin 2, but the one feature that is eluding me is changing the neck thickness.  If it won't happen for Elin 2, there is a high chance it won't happen for Elin 1.

 

[citydark100]

i need help to install ElinRace NPC and Enemy v3.1 im new to manual installing if some one could tell me how or where to put the files at

[PsychoMachina]

It's important to know that 99% of all mods are installed in Skyrim's Data folder.  The folder path would look like this:

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data

 

Now extract the Elin NPC n Enemy 3.1 archive.  You will see the following:

• ElinRaceTaint.esm (master file)(This contains the Elin hair/ears/tail sets and is modified for the NPC replacers).
• Elin Race Enemy (folder containing plugin and BSA file)(This replaces the random enemies and explains why some Elin enemies have male voices).
• Elin Race Enemy NR (folder containing plugin and BSA file)(This adds enemies to the leveled list).
• Elin Race New NPC (folder containing plugin and BSA file)(This adds new 'friendly' NPCs throughout Skyrim).
• Elin Race NPC (folder containing plugin and BSA file)(This replaces certain unique NPCs, for example, the female Housecarls).
• Elin Race NPC-Hearthfires Housecarl (folder containing plugin, Meshes and Textures folders)(This adds Rayya, the housecarl you receive when becoming Thane of Falkreath).

Manual installation is as follows,

• Copy ElinRaceTaint.esm and paste into your Data folder; allow overwriting of the same filename added by the Elin main package.  The new ElinRaceTaint.esm adds different hairs to the NPCs and fixes the dark head bug.
• Next, you need to choose which NPC replacer option you want to install.  Pick which you want to install and copy the contents of the folder (plugin+BSA) and paste into your Data folder.  DO NOT COPY THE PARENT FOLDER - ONLY THE FILES INSIDE.
• If you do not have Hearthfires, do not install Elin Race NPC-Hearthfires Housecarl option.
• If you do have Hearthfires and you want to change Rayya (Falkreath Housecarl), you must first install Elin Race NPC and install second, Elin Race NPC-Hearthfires Housecarl.  Allow overwriting of the ElinRaceNPC plugin.

DONE.  There are no load orders among the Elin NPC n Enemy files, but I recommend grouping together all of the Elin plugins to avoid any conflicts with other mods.

[Ayn Sof]

I'm working on adding additional sliders for Elin 2, but the one feature that is eluding me is changing the neck thickness.  If it won't happen for Elin 2, there is a high chance it won't happen for Elin 1.

 

Well, i just found out that i can edit the neck mesh (femalehead nif) in bodyslide outfit studio. The neck is thinner now, and so far works perfectly for me.

 

My problem is solved i guess

[wooly555]

sorry if someone already asked this, but after installing this mod made the player races of male nord, imperial, orc and the redguards smaller, while the npcs have the usual size. anyone know whats wrong here? i tried deleting all the elin related files but it seems nothing changed back to normal

 

edit: alright found the problem and fixed

[Mud]

 

I'm working on adding additional sliders for Elin 2, but the one feature that is eluding me is changing the neck thickness.  If it won't happen for Elin 2, there is a high chance it won't happen for Elin 1.

 

Well, i just found out that i can edit the neck mesh (femalehead nif) in bodyslide outfit studio. The neck is thinner now, and so far works perfectly for me.

 

My problem is solved i guess

 

Hmm... and that doesn't create neck seams with the bodies?

[PsychoMachina]

sorry if someone already asked this, but after installing this mod made the player races of male nord, imperial, orc and the redguards smaller, while the npcs have the usual size. anyone know whats wrong here? i tried deleting all the elin related files but it seems nothing changed back to normal

 

edit: alright found the problem and fixed

 

Curious as to what caused the problem.  Can you specify what was fixed so that anyone else having the same problem will know what to do.

 

 

 

 

I'm working on adding additional sliders for Elin 2, but the one feature that is eluding me is changing the neck thickness.  If it won't happen for Elin 2, there is a high chance it won't happen for Elin 1.

 

Well, i just found out that i can edit the neck mesh (femalehead nif) in bodyslide outfit studio. The neck is thinner now, and so far works perfectly for me.

 

My problem is solved i guess

 

Hmm... and that doesn't create neck seams with the bodies?

 

 

I once tried it with the Monli and there was a major gap.  I didn't spend too much time on it though so I may have overlooked something.

[Ayn Sof]

 

 

I'm working on adding additional sliders for Elin 2, but the one feature that is eluding me is changing the neck thickness.  If it won't happen for Elin 2, there is a high chance it won't happen for Elin 1.

 

Well, i just found out that i can edit the neck mesh (femalehead nif) in bodyslide outfit studio. The neck is thinner now, and so far works perfectly for me.

 

My problem is solved i guess

 

Hmm... and that doesn't create neck seams with the bodies?

 

 

 

For me, nope. It's just the same as the default head.

 

 

no ENB. using default elin body from colormatch edition.

FXAA on (very weak laptop)

 

 

It's also depends on how you edit the head mesh, never edit the vertices at the neck-body border.

Still a very rough edit. It's a little bit hard editing in bodyslide, especially the neck slope transition.

As for the neck gap, i heard it's more concealed at full body weight and using high Antialiasing (x8) which obviusly will kill my precious framerate XD

[wooly555]

 

sorry if someone already asked this, but after installing this mod made the player races of male nord, imperial, orc and the redguards smaller, while the npcs have the usual size. anyone know whats wrong here? i tried deleting all the elin related files but it seems nothing changed back to normal

 

edit: alright found the problem and fixed

 

Curious as to what caused the problem.  Can you specify what was fixed so that anyone else having the same problem will know what to do.

 

 

i cant really tell what fixed it. i just reinstalled ECE and body mod with bbp and everyone went back to usual size. maybe its somehow related to the skeleton, but dunno since the body mod was just for the females and the problem was on the male side except the khajiit. i hope it helps

[CatharsisKR]

Hi friend, I want to know if it is able to work with Dual Sheath Redux mod?

after 1.4.1, Elin had their own skeleton but twin sword doesn't go to Elin's back after 1.4.1 with DSR mod,

I wanted to change its joint on my own but it is very hard for me

plz update skeleton thanks

[PsychoMachina]

Elin 1 and 2 will be updated to use XPMSE 2.14, but I have not test DSR with the latest XPMSE yet.  I normally would recommend just swapping the old skeleton with XPMSE 2.14, but the new skeletons are not scaled to Elin proportions.

 

Once I'm done with the Elin 2 update, I can start on a major update for Elin 1.  Hopefully, I can have something ready for release by next month.