BeanHurritoTheUnloved Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 I know this point has already been brought up but I'm using the latest updated file I could find (July 16th) and the firstperson camera is still short for me, even when I started a new game. I disabled my first person height fix mod to try and see what would happen and it still kept it short. It was only until I disabled the Elin mods when the camera magically fixed itself. Is there any specific place that the core files need to placed in in order for the camera to be normal? Should I place it under the official DLC and unofficial patches? Currently it is near the end of my load order.
PsychoMachina Posted July 26, 2014 Author Posted July 26, 2014 "July 16th" update? I'm guessing you meant June 16. I can't pinpoint why the game has problems with the 1st-person camera when playing a race that is smaller than the typical vanilla adult race and why the problem does not happen to everyone. I can only guess that the game is loading the Elin scaling then deducts the difference between their scaling and the scaling for the vanilla adult (playable) races. This could also explain why when playing adult races while still having the Elins installed, the camera is lower than adult height. Just a guess. As for load order, the core files are masters so, yes, they need to be after the the DLCs and unofficial patches and, no, they can't be at the end of the load order. Any Elin plugins should be grouped together and moved anywhere in the load order as long as it's lower than ECE (if you are using ECE and want to take advantage of creating Slot saves for the Elins). Just make sure that any plugins for the Elin body replacer is last in that group.
BeanHurritoTheUnloved Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 "July 16th" update? I'm guessing you meant June 16. I can't pinpoint why the game has problems with the 1st-person camera when playing a race that is smaller than the typical vanilla adult race and why the problem does not happen to everyone. I can only guess that the game is loading the Elin scaling then deducts the difference between their scaling and the scaling for the vanilla adult (playable) races. This could also explain why when playing adult races while still having the Elins installed, the camera is lower than adult height. Just a guess. As for load order, the core files are masters so, yes, they need to be after the the DLCs and unofficial patches and, no, they can't be at the end of the load order. Any Elin plugins should be grouped together and moved anywhere in the load order as long as it's lower than ECE (if you are using ECE and want to take advantage of creating Slot saves for the Elins). Just make sure that any plugins for the Elin body replacer is last in that group. Sorry for that typo; I can get a little scatterbrained. Tried to put ECE right below the DLC's and unofficial patches and then all the Elin files but I still got a shorter 1st person camera. Although the camera scales slightly up after arranging the load order, I'm still up to NPC's chests, and it still affects non-Elin races. The Elin plugins are in a little group right below the ECE plugin.
Camila Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there EDIT: Psycho, everytime i load up my game my Elin 1 changes it's Face Complexion back to default. What files are the face complexions? There are 4 types of complexion i woud like to use the last one but everytime i load i have to re change back and forward to complexion #3. The number is correct when i open with racemenu but the skin is not, after i set to complexion #2 and go back to #3 it uses the correct one. If i get the files perhaps i could replace them all with the last face complexion It looks like this: Wrong Complexion after loading: Correct Complexion after going back to #2 and forward to #3: Thanks in advice
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there it seemed too plentiful and full of curves to be Elin original body then just replace only the body meshes feamlebody nif 0 and 1, those of UNPB 252 body ? no change the head, feet, hands meshes ? and UNP Creamy texture, is this here..? http://mod.dysintropi.me/?s=UNP+Creamy
Camila Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there it seemed too plentiful and full of curves to be Elin original body then just replace only the body meshes feamlebody nif 0 and 1, those of UNPB 252 body ? no change the head, feet, hands meshes ? and UNP Creamy texture, is this here..? http://mod.dysintropi.me/?s=UNP+Creamy I used all meshes from UNPB except head because elins use their own heads. Yea that's the Creamy textures. Make backups in case you don't like or something goes wrong
sheloveme Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 hi psychomachina, thanks for your hint again..had get it work to replace skeleton and meshes now can my elin be pregnant and can equip schlong On monli i had get it work too but there was it easy to figure out how... i love it how you can turn skyrim in a hentai game i found this freaky japanse school mod for screenshoots.... Hi guys i often got a request per private message how i did this easy to explain get a sos skeleton and replace elin skeleton then change body mesh + texture then you got what you see here. Its easier than eating a cake actually i can edit every mode how i want......i can uploud a edited file.. Was while dont active cuz pc exploded kinda something...Ah actually i forgot to add i can get elin work with pregnant mod too. If Psychomaniac its still allow. And give me a permission. But i see its now a non aadult mod i dont think i get the permission. Mabey i should delete the pictures xD. Should i? But mabey its possible to make a ADULT Version ?
PsychoMachina Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 "July 16th" update? I'm guessing you meant June 16. I can't pinpoint why the game has problems with the 1st-person camera when playing a race that is smaller than the typical vanilla adult race and why the problem does not happen to everyone. I can only guess that the game is loading the Elin scaling then deducts the difference between their scaling and the scaling for the vanilla adult (playable) races. This could also explain why when playing adult races while still having the Elins installed, the camera is lower than adult height. Just a guess. As for load order, the core files are masters so, yes, they need to be after the the DLCs and unofficial patches and, no, they can't be at the end of the load order. Any Elin plugins should be grouped together and moved anywhere in the load order as long as it's lower than ECE (if you are using ECE and want to take advantage of creating Slot saves for the Elins). Just make sure that any plugins for the Elin body replacer is last in that group. Sorry for that typo; I can get a little scatterbrained. Tried to put ECE right below the DLC's and unofficial patches and then all the Elin files but I still got a shorter 1st person camera. Although the camera scales slightly up after arranging the load order, I'm still up to NPC's chests, and it still affects non-Elin races. The Elin plugins are in a little group right below the ECE plugin. Are you using BOSS or LOOT? LOOT is the latest incarnation of BOSS which is being faded out. Other than that, you will have to uninstall the Elins when playing non-Elin races. An alternative is to use Mod Organizer and create Profiles for the Elin race and a separate Profile for non-Elin races. Mod Organizer's virtual folder system should "fix" the camera issue because none of the Elin files will be loaded into your game when playing other races. Even when using MO, the one persistent camera problem is the 3rd-person camera reverting to adult height when using the forge or alchemy/enchantment table, but this can be fixed by saving and reloading the save.
PsychoMachina Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there EDIT: Psycho, everytime i load up my game my Elin 1 changes it's Face Complexion back to default. What files are the face complexions? There are 4 types of complexion i woud like to use the last one but everytime i load i have to re change back and forward to complexion #3. The number is correct when i open with racemenu but the skin is not, after i set to complexion #2 and go back to #3 it uses the correct one. If i get the files perhaps i could replace them all with the last face complexion It looks like this: Wrong Complexion after loading: Correct Complexion after going back to #2 and forward to #3: Thanks in advice Look in TEXTURES > ACTORS > 2chElin FIX > FACE What you can do is backup FACE1.dds, FACE2.dds, and FACE3.dds then make copies of FACE4.dds and rename them so that they replace the first 3.
PsychoMachina Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 hi psychomachina, thanks for your hint again..had get it work to replace skeleton and meshes now can my elin be pregnant and can equip schlong On monli i had get it work too but there was it easy to figure out how... i love it how you can turn skyrim in a hentai game i found this freaky japanse school mod for screenshoots.... Hi guys i often got a request per private message how i did this easy to explain get a sos skeleton and replace elin skeleton then change body mesh + texture then you got what you see here. Its easier than eating a cake actually i can edit every mode how i want......i can uploud a edited file.. Was while dont active cuz pc exploded kinda something...Ah actually i forgot to add i can get elin work with pregnant mod too. If Psychomaniac its still allow. And give me a permission. But i see its now a non aadult mod i dont think i get the permission. Mabey i should delete the pictures xD. Should i? But mabey its possible to make a ADULT Version ? I think you should remove the pics, just as a precaution. If you want to release your files, first ask the moderators (by pm) if it will be allowed. You have my permission, but it's the moderators that have the final word.
Guest SuperSayian123 Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I'm trying to use this hair pack, but ain't nothing showing up in the race menu for the elin race. What do?
PsychoMachina Posted July 29, 2014 Author Posted July 29, 2014 Some hair mods will either not show up for the Elins or, if they do, will have major clipping issues. I don't remember if I tried converting the hair pack you linked or not. What I have available are ones that has very little to no problems with Elin 1. Anyway, some of the hairs from that pack can be found in other mods like Oblivian and Apachii. I guess so since most hairs are conversions of Sims hairs. I'll have to check with Elin 2, but even if there are some clipping, the CME morphs can allow anyone to fix any clipping issues in-game.
xd465 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Hmm...this might've been brought up before. But, I believe an elin replacement for vampire lord would be nice since 1) Vampire lord isn't really the best looking form around 2) When using an overhaul like Better Vampire Lords which uses the player's meshes and textures, it'll cause all sorts of mayhem with the model. I personally have a dark themed Elin and vampire lord would fit her nicely. It's a shame though that there is so many issues with the Vampire Lord. I'm sure you may have already tried to fix these issues.
etupirika Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 installed in order indicated above, first-person eye point is adjusted to 0.7 scale when I select scele 0.8 in installing "Elin Race Main Pack.->new elin bodies(CBBE TBBP)" Even though I reinstall, it happens again. Do you know the reason why this happens?
PsychoMachina Posted July 29, 2014 Author Posted July 29, 2014 Hmm...this might've been brought up before. But, I believe an elin replacement for vampire lord would be nice since 1) Vampire lord isn't really the best looking form around 2) When using an overhaul like Better Vampire Lords which uses the player's meshes and textures, it'll cause all sorts of mayhem with the model. I personally have a dark themed Elin and vampire lord would fit her nicely. It's a shame though that there is so many issues with the Vampire Lord. I'm sure you may have already tried to fix these issues. I was thinking about a VL replacer. I have not decided to whether to go with a Gothic Lolita or Elin Reaper theme or hybrid of sorts. installed in order indicated above, first-person eye point is adjusted to 0.7 scale when I select scele 0.8 in installing "Elin Race Main Pack.->new elin bodies(CBBE TBBP)" Even though I reinstall, it happens again. Do you know the reason why this happens? ScreenShot2.jpg ScreenShot3.jpg The problem is the game itself. Some people have problems with 1st-person being lower or higher than the true scale or experiencing non-Elin characters having lower camera positions while the Elin race is installed. There has to be something in the game configuration that will allow persistent camera positions based on a race's scaling or pre-defined value. If only there is a 1st-person camera mod that works like Enhanced 3rd-Person Camera.
Guest SuperSayian123 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Some hair mods will either not show up for the Elins or, if they do, will have major clipping issues. I don't remember if I tried converting the hair pack you linked or not. What I have available are ones that has very little to no problems with Elin 1. Anyway, some of the hairs from that pack can be found in other mods like Oblivian and Apachii. I guess so since most hairs are conversions of Sims hairs. I'll have to check with Elin 2, but even if there are some clipping, the CME morphs can allow anyone to fix any clipping issues in-game. Apachii isn't showing up either. Only the elin hair mod updates that you provided.
PsychoMachina Posted July 29, 2014 Author Posted July 29, 2014 Which Apachii hairs? The ones I have listed in the OP or one of the other versions from Nexus. If it's not listed in the OP then they were not converted. Also Apachii v1.4 has since been updated so what I uploaded is outdated. Luckily, I got permission from Apachii to include assets from her hair packs so it's just a matter of time to make a ready-to-use, All-in-One hair pack for Elin 1
Guest SuperSayian123 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Which Apachii hairs? The ones I have listed in the OP or one of the other versions from Nexus. If it's not listed in the OP then they were not converted. Also Apachii v1.4 has since been updated so what I uploaded is outdated. Luckily, I got permission from Apachii to include assets from her hair packs so it's just a matter of time to make a ready-to-use, All-in-One hair pack for Elin 1 Oh wow I'm pretty fucking retarded. I didn't download Elin Hair Pack_v1.1 (requires Apachii SkyHairs v1.1a+v1.4 and v1.5).Does this convert only Apachi hairs? You said that oblivion hair mod has most of hairs in the mod that I listed and you were right, I found the hairstyle that I was looking for in it. Trying to recreate Saber from Fate/Zero but no luck so far :/
etupirika Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I think I asked in a wrong way. I added a photo to help understanding. As you can see from this photo, the first person perspective sometimes changes. Are there any confirmed errors about this?
Camila Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there EDIT: Psycho, everytime i load up my game my Elin 1 changes it's Face Complexion back to default. What files are the face complexions? There are 4 types of complexion i woud like to use the last one but everytime i load i have to re change back and forward to complexion #3. The number is correct when i open with racemenu but the skin is not, after i set to complexion #2 and go back to #3 it uses the correct one. If i get the files perhaps i could replace them all with the last face complexion It looks like this: Wrong Complexion after loading: Correct Complexion after going back to #2 and forward to #3: Thanks in advice Look in TEXTURES > ACTORS > 2chElin FIX > FACE What you can do is backup FACE1.dds, FACE2.dds, and FACE3.dds then make copies of FACE4.dds and rename them so that they replace the first 3. For some reason the face complexions still have different colors. lol Even copying the face4, _s and _msn .dds and replacing them for 1 2 3
xd465 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Hmm...this might've been brought up before. But, I believe an elin replacement for vampire lord would be nice since 1) Vampire lord isn't really the best looking form around 2) When using an overhaul like Better Vampire Lords which uses the player's meshes and textures, it'll cause all sorts of mayhem with the model. I personally have a dark themed Elin and vampire lord would fit her nicely. It's a shame though that there is so many issues with the Vampire Lord. I'm sure you may have already tried to fix these issues. I was thinking about a VL replacer. I have not decided to whether to go with a Gothic Lolita or Elin Reaper theme or hybrid of sorts. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Either one is nice. Although, Reaper might be more fitting. Vampire Lord is fun to play as, but VL Elin is just an eyesore. ^^ Werewolf can get away with it, since it's well, a wolf, not really humanoid. Well, good luck. I appreciate all your hard work here and the very fast response. X3
PsychoMachina Posted July 30, 2014 Author Posted July 30, 2014 Which Apachii hairs? The ones I have listed in the OP or one of the other versions from Nexus. If it's not listed in the OP then they were not converted. Also Apachii v1.4 has since been updated so what I uploaded is outdated. Luckily, I got permission from Apachii to include assets from her hair packs so it's just a matter of time to make a ready-to-use, All-in-One hair pack for Elin 1 Oh wow I'm pretty fucking retarded. I didn't download Elin Hair Pack_v1.1 (requires Apachii SkyHairs v1.1a+v1.4 and v1.5). Does this convert only Apachi hairs? You said that oblivion hair mod has most of hairs in the mod that I listed and you were right, I found the hairstyle that I was looking for in it. Trying to recreate Saber from Fate/Zero but no luck so far :/ If a particular Elin hair pack requires the original hair mod(s) then it's only for those particular hairs. Some of the currently available Elin hairs do not have the required meshes and textures of the original hairs so pay close attention to any prerequisites; if it says the original mod is required then you need to install the version that is posted, if no requirements are listed then the original meshes and textures are already included. I'll have to create an All-in-One hair pack for Elin 1 which will include assets from the original hair mods. This will do away with any requirements. As for certain hairs such as Oblivian, I'm replacing the Elin head mesh with one that reduces hair clippings (and for the most part, hood clipping). I have not tested with Oblivian hairs yet. I think I asked in a wrong way. I added a photo to help understanding. As you can see from this photo, the first person perspective sometimes changes. Are there any confirmed errors about this? 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg 0.jpg I know what you are saying, but I don't know why the camera does not consistently work with shorter races and I don't know why this happens to some people, some of the time. I had that very same problem before and now the camera is working fine. Which version of Elin, bodymeshe type, skeleton type, skin textures, Etc.. exactly is this ? Hey that's my old elin xD It's Elin 1 with UNPB Meshes, Default Elin Skeleton and i think it was UNP Creamy textures Don't recall what enb i was using back there EDIT: Psycho, everytime i load up my game my Elin 1 changes it's Face Complexion back to default. What files are the face complexions? There are 4 types of complexion i woud like to use the last one but everytime i load i have to re change back and forward to complexion #3. The number is correct when i open with racemenu but the skin is not, after i set to complexion #2 and go back to #3 it uses the correct one. If i get the files perhaps i could replace them all with the last face complexion It looks like this: Wrong Complexion after loading: Correct Complexion after going back to #2 and forward to #3: Thanks in advice Look in TEXTURES > ACTORS > 2chElin FIX > FACE What you can do is backup FACE1.dds, FACE2.dds, and FACE3.dds then make copies of FACE4.dds and rename them so that they replace the first 3. For some reason the face complexions still have different colors. lol Even copying the face4, _s and _msn .dds and replacing them for 1 2 3 The problem is the complexions are not true tintmasks, rather, each "complexions" are separate set of textures (color, normals, and skin). I will have to eliminate those extra textures and create proper complexions.
PsychoMachina Posted August 8, 2014 Author Posted August 8, 2014 Elin Bard v3 with Bearserk is now available. I gave it it's own post because there was too much to post to include here. Elin Bard still requires the Elin 1 main package. The mod comes as an installer so that any existing FNIS behavior files are updated instead of replaced as was done with Elin Bard v2.2 and earlier.
tengma Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 hi do you know a way to make elin's forehead smaller(shorter), I mean, it is about a half of total head length, I am sure most of head style will be fit in without need of "elinize" Thank you for a great mod
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