{UPDATE - Elin Voice v2.1 with Throw Voice Replacer Options} Tera Elin Race

[PsychoMachina]

BETA - Elin Bard v2.1

 

I'm posting the latest Elin Bard here for anyone willing to test it.  There are some bugs, but nothing game-breaking.

 

What's New

• FNIS is not required!!!
• When the Elin Bard first plays the violin, the animation and music will loop until you speak with her again and tell her to stop.  This is intentional.
• After receiving the bow and violin from the bard, you are suppose to be able to play along with her.  This I could not get to work.  Maybe someone else might be lucky.

Known Bugs

• When you first meet her, no dialogue option will appear.  (SOLUTION: make a new save and load the new save; dialogue option will now appear).
• When the violin play animation starts, the bow and violin appears on her hands, but she just walks around and the music does not play.  (POSSIBLE SOLUTION:  make a new save, reinstall the Elin bard, and load the save you last made).

Mod Conflicts

• When she starts playing for the first time, the animation where she equips the bow and violin and raise them to her chin will loop (about 5x) before finally playing the music.

and/or

• Whenever your done playing and unequip the bow and violin, you will experience rendering glitches where the breasts and buttocks stretch to infinity.

SOLUTION:  This is a conflict with HDT Physics Extension.  Removing the HDT files from Data > SKSE > Plugins will fix those problems.  If you experience something different and you have HDT Physics Extension installed, check to see if it's HDT that is the cause of problems you are experiencing.

 

INSTALLATION

• You must first have all mods that require FNIS installed first then run the generator for users.
• Now install the Elin Bard 2.1, but DO NOT RUN FNIS AGAIN.

If later you want to uninstall a mod that requires running FNIS generator for users or want to install a new mod that requires FNIS, you need to uninstall the Elin bard and reinstall after your done with the other mods.

 

DOWNLOAD - Elin Bard v2.1 BETA

 

ElinBard_2-1 English.7z

 

Requirements:  Elin Race Main Pack.

 

 

 

 

 

[PsychoMachina]

UPDATE

 

Uploaded Elin Bard v2.1 BETA to the LL Downloader.  Available in English and Russian.

 

Remember this is BETA.  It's suppose to work completely independent of FNIS, but I had to still create the behavior files (Generate FNIS for Modders).  RSV can only speculate the cause is a bug with Skyrim's cache because he tested the files (without behavior files) with a freshly installed Skyrim without FNIS.

 

If you want to test the "Alpha" then let me know and I'll post those files or just download the Beta and remove these files/folders:

• Meshes > Actors > Character  (remove the ANIMATIONS folder).
• Meshes > Actors > Character > Behaviors  (remove FNIS_ElinViolinist_Behavior.hkx).
• You need to have a fresh install of Skyrim without FNIS and any mods requiring FNIS.  If the Elin bard works, make a new save and uninstall the Bard.  Now go ahead and install any animation mods and FNIS.  Go through the typical installation routines.  When done, now reinstall the Elin bard.  If she continues to work (GREAT!!!), if her animation stops or everyone is in a T-pose, go ahead and install the Elin Bard BETA.  Do not use Generate FNIS for Users for the Elin Bard.

 

[Persius31]

So I have a small problem, whenever I use a bow with my elin, the arrow or rather perhaps the bow is kind of tilted upwards, so the arrow kind of looks like it's pointing down, it also looks like it's pointing to the side when I crouch, is this a known problem with a possible fix?

 

I use bows frequently and I only recently noticed this problem, it only affects elins as far as I know, and it affects all bows, even custom ones.

[ShinSonata]

I really love the elin but I have a problem with the mod. each time i try to make a elin character the game crash and I don´t know the reason. I have tried everything to fix it but it keep crashing.

[PsychoMachina]

So I have a small problem, whenever I use a bow with my elin, the arrow or rather perhaps the bow is kind of tilted upwards, so the arrow kind of looks like it's pointing down, it also looks like it's pointing to the side when I crouch, is this a known problem with a possible fix?

 

I use bows frequently and I only recently noticed this problem, it only affects elins as far as I know, and it affects all bows, even custom ones.

 

Hello Persius31

 

The cause is the skeleton (skeletonfemale.nif).  Editing the scaling of certain nodes to achieve the "Elin" physique will run into problems with weapon placements.  The first set of Elin skeletons had major problems with bow/arrows/weapons when equipped.  The latest set is a complete "redo from scratch" update (now old) with special attention to avoid the placement errors, but it's not perfect.

 

I recently started on another update using XPMS 1.92 and, with permission from XP32, will edit/release the "Elin" 1.92 skeleton pack.  However, my computer is buggy as hell and seems too much of a coincidence that this is happening just after the latest Windows update. 

 

It will be awhile before the new skeleton packs will be available.

 

I really love the elin but I have a problem with the mod. each time i try to make a elin character the game crash and I don´t know the reason. I have tried everything to fix it but it keep crashing.

 

Hello ShinSonata

 

The file are not being installed correctly.  Without uninstalling what you have, go ahead an install the files manually. 

An alternative is to uninstall all Elin mods and install only what is listed under "Required".  This is the basic files to use the race.  If you are able to create an Elin without problems, go ahead and systematically install the "Options" > test in game > install "Enhancements" > test in game and so on.

[ShinSonata]

I managed to make then work. How did I did it, I don't know. I think my game was not loading mods correctly.

Still if I select Elin male by mistake it crash. But that is not a big problem.

[Persius31]

 

So I have a small problem, whenever I use a bow with my elin, the arrow or rather perhaps the bow is kind of tilted upwards, so the arrow kind of looks like it's pointing down, it also looks like it's pointing to the side when I crouch, is this a known problem with a possible fix?

 

I use bows frequently and I only recently noticed this problem, it only affects elins as far as I know, and it affects all bows, even custom ones.

 

Hello Persius31

 

The cause is the skeleton (skeletonfemale.nif).  Editing the scaling of certain nodes to achieve the "Elin" physique will run into problems with weapon placements.  The first set of Elin skeletons had major problems with bow/arrows/weapons when equipped.  The latest set is a complete "redo from scratch" update (now old) with special attention to avoid the placement errors, but it's not perfect.

 

I recently started on another update using XPMS 1.92 and, with permission from XP32, will edit/release the "Elin" 1.92 skeleton pack.  However, my computer is buggy as hell and seems too much of a coincidence that this is happening just after the latest Windows update. 

 

It will be awhile before the new skeleton packs will be available.

 

I really love the elin but I have a problem with the mod. each time i try to make a elin character the game crash and I don´t know the reason. I have tried everything to fix it but it keep crashing.

 

Hello ShinSonata

 

The file are not being installed correctly.  Without uninstalling what you have, go ahead an install the files manually. 

An alternative is to uninstall all Elin mods and install only what is listed under "Required".  This is the basic files to use the race.  If you are able to create an Elin without problems, go ahead and systematically install the "Options" > test in game > install "Enhancements" > test in game and so on.

 

 

ah, thanks, was wondering if the problem was with other mods I had or just the skeleton, I like your quick responses.

 

[PsychoMachina]

Well, the new skeleton pack won't be released anytime soon.  I'm going ahead with the Elin race v2 and the new skeletons will be included with them.  I have been putting this aside far too long.  

 

The only updates for the current Elins would be for the DLC additions and the occasional fixes if and when they appear.  Plans might go through some changes over time, but I won't know until that time comes.

 

 

[Persius31]

Well, the new skeleton pack won't be released anytime soon.  I'm going ahead with the Elin race v2 and the new skeletons will be included with them.  I have been putting this aside far too long.  

 

The only updates for the current Elins would be for the DLC additions and the occasional fixes if and when they appear.  Plans might go through some changes over time, but I won't know until that time comes.

 

Any notable/close to completion armor conversions in the works?

I love my savior's hide and all, but It's nice to switch to something new once in a while.

[ShinSonata]

I was wondering that too. I cant seen to find a decent helm to my Elin. all of then make the hair disappear and that annoy me. and I was wondering if there is a way to get a slider for the Elin thighs I for one like then very slim.

[PsychoMachina]

If anyone is familiar with armor conversions using CB++ and UNP Bodyslide then I can post the presets for the new Elin bodies.  Other than that, I have my hands full and it seems noone is willing to help out in this area.

 

Regarding helms and hoods, rule of thumb is, "most helms will fit with some exceptions" and "most hoods will not fit with some exceptions".  I have yet to try Apachii's wigs for helms, but I do know the Hunting Grounds Outfit (hood with hairs) will definitely fit.  In fact, the thumbnail for the Elin race in the Download section shows my Elin wearing the Hunting Grounds hood.

With a decent retexture of Savior's Hide, I believe it would look nice with the HG hood.

 

Elin v2 will have better compatibility with hoods and helms in general.  As for hairs/wigs for use with hoods and helms, this is something I'll look into unless someone already knows a solution.

 

@ShinSonata

The thighs can not be adjusted with sliders; the shape is from the body mesh.  If you want slender legs, try the UNP Petite or CBBE Petite bodies from the Little Monli race.  If you wanted something that is more slender, I can test some new edits to the Elin bodies.

 

 

[keionn]

I have a problem with the Elin Race Idle Animation.

After installing it, the animations ingame are totaly messed up.

FNIS also shows 1 warning, when installed. saying :>>Warning: One or both installed skeletons don't match the skeleton patch (99 bones)<<

[PsychoMachina]

Hello Keionn

 

I'm using FNIS 4.0.2 and the Elin Idle animation works.  There are some instances of my Elin striking a T-pose when she stops after running, but that is few and far between.

 

If you installed the Elin Bard (2.1 Beta), running Generate FNIS for Users is not required.  This means you need to run the generator for the other mods first then install the Elin Bard.

 

The warning is because the skeletons are from an older xpms set, not the xpms 1.92 set.  All animations should work with the exception of the incident I just mentioned. 

 

Work is being done on updating the skeletons using v1.92 with one set for the current Elins and another set for Elin v2.

 

 

[keionn]

I think i messed up. Only when my weapon is unsheated, i get the right animation. When sheated, she is just standing normaly, sliding around. When sneaking, punching with the left hand, running or walking left/right/back is also messed up. Tried removing all animation mods, re-adding all mods for Elin. Nothing seems to work.

Sword on back doesn't work either for Elin, but works fine on other races.

 

It worked just fine at first (except the seam/little gap between hand and arm).

 

I tried creating a new char, and some npc were completely messed up and disordered.

 

I will most likely re-install Skyrim tomorrow..

 

It's just a little confusing with a few topics , reading about 2 Elin races, different elin armor merge packs and other mods here and there.

 

And after a while of considering, I think I'm posting not in the right topic, since it's not the bard mot in particular but the race itself where I got stuck.

 

I would like to apologize for the inconvenience I'm causing and my not so good english.

 

I Also wanted to thank you for all your hard work and your help.

 

PS:Just another little question. Where is Fox shop located, I never read where it's located.

 

[PsychoMachina]

No need for apologies, asking for help of fine, but I can only do so much and can not answer every question.

 

I have rewrote the installation instructions to make it easier to choose and install what you want to try.

 

Try this:

1. Uninstall all Elin mods.
2. If you have other animation mods, run "Generate FNIS for Users.exe".
3. Install the "basic" files.  This would be the Elin main pack + Chesko's Belt-Fastened Quiver Animation.
4. Play Skyrim and check for errors.
5. If none, go ahead and install any Fixes, then Options.  Check your game for errors.
6. If none, go ahead and install the Enhancements and check your game for errors.
7. Do the same for the Additions.
8. Try the Elin Idle last.  You need to use "Generate FNIS for Users.exe".
9. If trying the Elin Bard, do not use "Generate FNIS for Users.exe" (not needed).

 

The skeletons do not support 1-handed swords on backs.  They will with the next skeleton sets. 

Also, the Elins do not use the same skeletons as other races.  The Elin skeletons are located in a different folder (2chElin fix) so if you install a custom skeleton that works on other races, it will not work on the Elins.

 

The Fox shop is located in Riverwood.  When you enter Riverwood in the beginning of the game, look to the right and there will be a new house (Fox Shop) in the far corner.

 

 

[keionn]

Didn't work. 

I will re-install Skyrim and try the Elin race again.

 

Just to be certain.

I have to follow the instructions on this topic?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6949-new-elin-race/

[Asgarda]

Tell please as the original of music being used in mod is called

 

 

sorri for my English, I use the translator

[Camila]

Do we have any estimated time for some of these updates, for the Elin Race, you had planned back there? :3

[PsychoMachina]

Didn't work. 

I will re-install Skyrim and try the Elin race again.

 

Just to be certain.

I have to follow the instructions on this topic?

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6949-new-elin-race/

 

Yes, but do not install everything the first time.  Start with the "Basic - Required" mods and test them in your game.  If no problems, add the Fixes and Optional files.  Test them in your game for problems.  Do this for each Elin mod you install; test before installing the next one.

 

Tell please as the original of music being used in mod is called

 

 

sorri for my English, I use the translator

 

From the Elin Bard?  The music is "Siamsa" by Ronan Hardiman.

 

Do we have any estimated time for some of these updates, for the Elin Race, you had planned back there? :3

 

I can not say at the moment.  I have a lot that needs to get done both with the mods and RL.  Right now, I'm trying to finish the Elin replacers for Dragonborn and Dawnguard.  I recently finished Dragonborn and have yet to start Dawnguard.

Since I'm pressed for time, I'm only replacing npcs from the DLC; no new Elin npcs.

 

I have to make separate skeleton updates for both the current Elins and Elin v2.  I did a cursory test with the skeletons on v2 and the Elins look odd (to put it nicely), so I have to make a different set for them.

 

I'll see if I can release v2 sometime in January, but don't quote me on that.

[keionn]

Are there Pictures of the Custom Body CBBE/UNP Body Packs from the REQUIRED - New Elin Race.

 

It says " Each pack contains the core files that allows the Elins to use...", so I have to install the CBBE or UNP Mod first?

Does it matter if its slim, curvy, etc.?

[PsychoMachina]

The screenshots are in the second post of this thread.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20121-beta-elin-bard-v21-tera-elin-race/?p=471043

 

They are under "Elin Race New CBBE and UNP Bodies - Normal/BBP/TBBP" 

 

The custom bodies are part of the ENHANCEMENTS files, not the REQUIRED files.  You have a choice of installing NORMAL, BBP, or TBBP.  You also have the option to install HDT Physics Extension which works with the BBP and TBBP bodies.

 

The custom body pack has the Core files which allows the Elins to use either the CBBE or UNP new bodies + the actual custom (CBBE and UNP) bodies.  You do not have to install CBBE or UNP.

 

Don't forget to install the textures which are separate CBBE and UNP packs.

 

 

 

[keionn]

I installed the Elin Race with NMM:

 

 

 

Installed DSpSoB as written here:

 

 

 

And installed the seperate CBBE texture pack. Beneath the main pack:

 

 

 

 

I hope I did it right. I'll try it out and report.

 

Edit: It works.

 

My Elin uses the standart skyrim animations. Only pulling the sword from her back, even though it's on the hip.

For installing dual sheath redux, I need xp32 body skelleton. But when I try to install it, it wants to overwrite data from the elin race:

 

There is no 3.2 available only the new 4.1. But does it matter anymore?

 

[PsychoMachina]

I did not know you were installing the old files.  They should work, but I dropped DSpSoB and went with Dual Sheath Redux.

 

The Elin skeletons were edited for Dual Sheath Redux so installing the latest XPMS is your choice.

 

The warning means XPMS wants to replace the 1st-person skeleton.  Go ahead and replace it.  If you experience the 1st-person camera being lower than your Elin's actual height then you need to install my FIX which will replace the 1st-person skeleton installed by XPMS.

 

FNIS 4.1 fixes CTD when loading game saves.  Go ahead and try it out, but I suggest using FNIS first and test everything in your game before installing the Elin Idle.  If there are no problems then proceed with installing the Elin Idle and running Generate FNIS for Users.

 

 

[keionn]

I did it!

 

After searching a little in the forum, i got to this site, where you put all the (most likely) newest mods.

Installed:

1. 

2. 

3. (since I chose UNP) 

 

Everything looks great on first glance and seems to work normal (but the hands don't really seem to fit)

 

Can't believe how stupid I am. It's so easy.

[PsychoMachina]

In this thread, if the file does not have a link to a file-sharing site then you can find the file in the LoversLab Downloader.  

 

From what I learned lately about "0_master.hkx", it should NOT cause any crashing.  If your game crashes then the cause is something else.  You can ignore the warning, I have seen that since FNIS 4.0 and the the idles still work.

 

ElinRace DSpSoB.esp is no longer used so the master list for BOSS has not been updated to recognize this plugin.  Keep it within the other Elin plugin group.

 

The hair packs in this thread is the latest and v1.1 only contains the patches for the Apachii hairs and requires the original Apachii hairs listed.  The other hair packs contain the other hairs and they do contain the original meshes and textures.