feeling guilty because of enjoying skyrim adult mods

[damarok]

I do know how stupid that probably sounds, but somehow i often find myself feeling guilty after playing skyrim for a few hours, on a daily basis. Many people outside of LL criticize these mods and call people using them "degenerates". And I feel kinda ok with that, but sometimes its just like... it doesnt feel right, even though im enjoying it, and I must say, im playing with lots of adult mods.

So why do I feel the guilt which takes away from one of the very few things that bring me any joy these days?

[Wolfshrike]

Guilty how, though? 

Guilty like "I could have spent those hours better/differently/more productively"? or guilty like "I shouldn't be using these mods, because they're wrong and/or bad" 

 

 

[damarok]

7 minutes ago, Wolfshrike said:

Guilty how, though? 

Guilty like "I could have spent those hours better/differently/more productively"? or guilty like "I shouldn't be using these mods, because they're wrong and/or bad" 

 

 

I guess a mix of both of these two feelings, however I do get my other work done, so im doing it in my "free time"

[belegost]

1 hour ago, damarok said:

how stupid that probably sounds

Yes, it does.

Edited November 21, 2022 by belegost

[Wolfshrike]

3 hours ago, damarok said:

I guess a mix of both of these two feelings, however I do get my other work done, so im doing it in my "free time"

Eh. I mean, I guess I can kinda get it- some of the mods here are pretty debauched, afterall. Not a judgement, just an observation, haha. But to me, it's also a case of what you do for fun in your free time is also kinda your business, and unless it involves nonconsenting real  actual flesh and blood partners, it's just that- your business. 

 

Like, People quick to pass judgement on other people for what they're doing in a single player, off line game, but no one is completely clean, either, I guess is what I'm trying to drive at. 

[RohZima]

3 hours ago, damarok said:

call people using them "degenerates".

 

Guilty as charged.

 

But seriously just follow your own conscience. Obviously it is degenerate - it's silly to try to spin it differently. There is nothing positive whatsoever about it - that's just the truth.

 

So manage it and keep it to yourself. Those people criticizing are probably posturing and have their own guilty pleasures which might be much worse for all you know.

 

[pinky6225]

16 hours ago, damarok said:

I guess a mix of both of these two feelings, however I do get my other work done, so im doing it in my "free time"

 

Tbh unless your aiming (and stand a chance) of becoming a e sport pro then - spent those hours better/differently/more productively - applies to pretty much all games

 

As to - I shouldn't be using these mods, because they're wrong and/or bad - don't think its really much different to watching porn, long as you can firmly keep in your head that both are fantasy then what you get up to shouldnt bother others

[Gukahn]

Most people pointing with fingers at Adult Mods or Games would never show you their Browser history Dude.

So whats so bad about playing a Game and having fun compared to watching Schoolgirl porn? ?

What you have to understand is, everybody who judges you do things in the Dark you would judge them for. Nobody on this fucking Planet doesn't have a Kink or a Fetish or watches/reads stuff others would vomit from. So fuck your guilt in the ass and enjoy yourself, it's just porn, we ain't in the 60's people are fucking each other everyday after hooking up for 3 Minutes on the internet. ?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

are you being a little hard on some fictional toons that dont look or act like real humans inside the landscape of a video game? There is scores of super fucked up perverts worse than the worst of us here in LL out there in the RW and tons of good old fashion regular perverts as well too. You shouldnt feel too guilty for playing dirty skyrim. I think watching 2 hours of porn a day would be worse for you, mind you that is if you at least clear out a dungeon/cave or 2 every now and then while playing your skyrims

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

8 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

everybody who judges you do things in the Dark you would judge them for.

 

I've always said we are all fucking weird, question always is does your weird and my weird jive well together. 

[Gukahn]

2 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

I think watching 2 hours of porn a day would be worse for you, mind you that is if you at least clear out a dungeon/cave or 2 every now and then while playing your skyrims

I do nothing but writing fucked up lewd stuff with skyrim.. So even if I stop lewding skyrim I still lewding skyrim..  I'm still normal.. I Think ?

 

2 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

I've always said we are all fucking weird, question always is does your weird and my weird jive well together. 

Or if we can at least tolerate the weird of each other. If not there is no problem in avoiding each other so everybody can be weird in peace ? Unless someone does the few fictional things I condemn as really degenerate I really don't care what people do on the internet, especially in Fiction

[Alessia Wellington]

38 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

So even if I stop lewding skyrim I still lewding skyrim..  I'm still normal.

 

You and normal? Doesn't fit together.

[Gukahn]

1 hour ago, Alessia Wellington said:

You and normal? Doesn't fit together.

I am perfectly normal yes, It is totally normal to use one Hour of your Freetime a Day to make a lewd scene and another or two to edit them.. Yes that is totally normal behavior.. I might need a Priest.. ? Or an Exorcism

[Alessia Wellington]

5 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

I might need a Priest

 

And may god forgive thy sins.

 

Spoiler

 

[damarok]

4 hours ago, Gukahn said:

Most people pointing with fingers at Adult Mods or Games would never show you their Browser history Dude.

So whats so bad about playing a Game and having fun compared to watching Schoolgirl porn? ?

What you have to understand is, everybody who judges you do things in the Dark you would judge them for. Nobody on this fucking Planet doesn't have a Kink or a Fetish or watches/reads stuff others would vomit from. So fuck your guilt in the ass and enjoy yourself, it's just porn, we ain't in the 60's people are fucking each other everyday after hooking up for 3 Minutes on the internet. ?

Wise words, i kinda get it now. Many people watch fucked up porn but point a finger at you when you are not only playing an adult game but also immersing yourself in it and "feeling any emotion" towards your character, and thats something that porn doesnt do at all.

[Seijin8]

2 hours ago, damarok said:

Wise words, i kinda get it now. Many people watch fucked up porn but point a finger at you when you are not only playing an adult game but also immersing yourself in it and "feeling any emotion" towards your character, and thats something that porn doesnt do at all.

 

A few thoughts here:

 

You're adding sex & kink to a game that already includes cannibalism, genocide, supernatural rape, myriad ways to sell your soul to daedric princes and mass murder sprees that would make history's most prolific killers jealous.

 

Another way to look at it:  Beheading, shooting or otherwise viciously killing dozens (hundreds? thousands?) of digital people with a smile on your face has been normalized.  Having feelings for digital characters has also been normalized within the gaming community (Garrus, Liara and Tali are romantically beloved by many gamers).  In recent media, incest, BDSM relationships and polyamoury have reached or approached normalization in media.

 

The only taboo element we are engaging with here is actually taking the next step in terms of presentation of these themes; Explicit instead of implicit presentation.

 

Beyond just the sex stuff, LL is about removing limitations to the way you experience games.

[Mr. Otaku]

Never feel guilty over this kind of stuff, you'll never reach a point where they'll stop complaining unless you become the the king of average joes with absolutely no standout traits. Like the few people here already stated, the people that moralize this too much and throw judgement at you all have things to hide but even assuming they don't, what gives them the right to judge? You don't have to capitulate to their idea of "normalcy" just so they can stop thinking of you a certain way, there's no practical reason to suggest otherwise, especially when these mods are completely fictional.

 

I mean ask yourself, why should you care about their opinions when they don't care about yours? Really think about why you're putting so much stock into their approval or views. Do you agree with their moralization or do you feel the guilt because you're conditioned to feel guilty about it? Don't let the world push you around.

[Miauzi]

I've been wondering for 3 days whether it makes sense from my point of view to write something about this - but well...

..my first thought was -> boy/girl/other find a professional psychologist to talk to about it - this is nothing for a "kitchen table" conversation

Then I remembered that about 20 years ago I had just had a conversation with a female psychologist.
Things like "fetishes" or "sado-masochism" are still classified as "mental and behavioral disorders" (according to the World Health Organization's ICD catalog) and diagnosed accordingly.
For me at the time, they would have meant the exclusion from certain medical treatment options!!

So I had corresponding concerns about my "sexual oddities" with the psychologist responsible for me.
And yes - I was lucky that she belonged to a more progressive "school" (mainly fed by her own 35 years of professional experience) - because she literally turns my own views of me "upside down".
At its core:
- along with human weapons, man is the only creature in the animal kingdom that can reproduce 365 days a year - i.e. it has no time limit (seen over the year) for its "rut"
- in this way, sex between people takes on the function of a social "correction" in addition to pure reproduction (of one's own kind) - i.e. sex serves as a means of social interaction, for example to reduce conflicts or to completely relax/solve them by reducing stress
- Making sex taboo or partially taboo is one of the most important instruments of domination of religions - worldwide and for thousands of years
That was the general "introduction" and then to me specifically:
- be happy that you have more opportunities in sex than "normal" people because of your "special features" - there is nothing pathological about it (if it is consensual, etc.)
- if there were only "normal" sex (allowed by the church) mankind would have died out long ago (out of boredom).
- I'm not "abnormal" but (unfortunately) the majority of society because it ultimately behaves abnormally because it is unnatural (because it restricts itself in one of its most important social interactions)
---
the conversation broke the self-imposed shackles - but it was only the beginning of the path to one's own inner "liberation"

How you ultimately handle this is YOUR decision

[Gukahn]

18 hours ago, damarok said:

playing an adult game but also immersing yourself in it and "feeling any emotion" towards your character, and thats something that porn doesnt do at all.

As long as you don't loose yourself in it and forget reality, let specific fantasys stay in the fantasy realm of the game you're playing, nobody should ever judge you for it. You don't commit a crime for letting a virtual Character get raped, tortured, killed and so on.

Like others say, Killing a Video Game Character? No big Deal. Fucking him or her? Oh my God call the Moral police! That's just pure hypocrisy ?

[Alessia Wellington]

7 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Killing a Video Game Character? No big Deal. Fucking him or her? Oh my God call the Moral police! That's just pure hypocrisy

 

Wonder how they'd react if you first kill a game character, and then have sex with 'em.

[Gukahn]

1 minute ago, Alessia Wellington said:

Wonder how they'd react if you first kill a game character, and then have sex with 'em.

.. Why not another level above, kill a Game character and then let a Dog have sex with them ? But dress the Corpse up in SM gear beforehand.

[Alessia Wellington]

Just now, Gukahn said:

Why not another level above, kill a Game character and then let a Dog have sex with them ? But dress the Corpse up in SM gear beforehand.

 

Or dress up the dog in SM gear.

[Gukahn]

5 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

 

Or dress up the dog in SM gear.

 

How about a Teddy Bear?

Spoiler

 

[Alessia Wellington]

1 minute ago, Gukahn said:

How about a Teddy Bear?

 

Now take it a step further: A teddy dressed in SM stuff, banging a dead dog, also dressed in SM stuff.

 

That'll make a great kid's movie.

[Gukahn]

3 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

That'll make a great kid's movie

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