feeling guilty because of enjoying skyrim adult mods

[Mr. Otaku]

On 12/30/2022 at 4:48 AM, User39042 said:

I think it's normal to feel guilty for playing porn or watching porn and it's a sign you aren't doing something better you could be doing instead. Why do I say that?

 

When you watch a Porn Hub video, you're like a gorilla. Gorilla packs have a bunch of betas and one alpha. The alpha takes all of the females for themselves, fucks them in front of the other betas, while the betas jerk off to the alpha fucking the female. As they will never get a female of their own, this is the best a beta gorillas could hope for.

 

That, that right there should piss you off enough to not want to watch porn, but beyond that, when you know how men run porn studios and how they seduce women into porn, it's just disgusting to watch how fake it is. I don't know about other guys, but for me, if a woman is not getting naked to make me turned on, but getting naked to turn some another guy on, it's is a big turn off for me. Porn itself is nothing but NTR in my opinion and because of that I haven't watched a porn video in like 2 hours...

Just kidding, I don't like real porn, dropped that shit long ago.

 

Dawg that's some blackpill tier shit i ain't gonna lie. You smokin some wack shit bruh ????

[User39042]

On 1/12/2023 at 10:08 PM, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Dawg that's some blackpill tier shit i ain't gonna lie. You smokin some wack shit bruh ????

 

I pointed out that it's better to invest in yourself, becoming the best version of you, rather than jerk off to a video where the girl could give two shits about you. Work out, dress nice, get your shit together, stop bullshitting yourself with excuses. Once you do, you'll view pornhub as I do, a trap for beta simps. I am telling you, from personal experience, it's so much better to look good and feel good than it is to eat potato chips and jerk off infront of your monitor. When hot girls get bashful around you when you smile at them and say hi, you don't feel guilty about banging them. You do feel guilty when you jerk off and have nothing to show for it.

 

If YOU don't feel guilty, then cool, continue what you are doing. Have fun. However, I'm relating my personal past and how I felt guilty when I was in my young 20's not doing anything with my life and my hobby was porn. Now the only porn I watch is hentai because you really can't get that in real life and video games, because it's more fun than vanilla gaming. But, the majority of my life is working out, dressing nice, and making money, which beats the shit out of sitting around in my boxers watching pornhub.

 

[Pamatronic]

Ignoring the alpha/beta nonsense, I kinda get the "wasted time" point buried in there.
"Feeling guilty" doesn't really describe it correctly, but I often feel somewhat empty and unsatisfied after giving myself the massage.
And at that point I realize that I should have probably done something else over the last hour than browsing dlsite/rule34/pixiv or whatever strikes ones fancy.
Not necessarily because I should have done something productive, but there are a lot of games and other things you can do on your pc which will provide you with a lot more lasting satisfaction.
Personal perspective of course. If Porn gives you a lasting sense of happiness, color me jealous.

[damarok]

When creating this topic I didn't mean it to necessarily include people who sit in their boxers all day and night long jerkin off to porn. But more like, you know, from time to time or for a longer periodt of time. Obviously if someone's life is pretty much based on porn it isnt good and definitely isnt healthy and such a person cannot hope to not feel guilty about it, I think. But sometimes there is this unpleasant feeling that someone out there would call me a creep for playing Skyrim with the mods im playing or it makes me feel isolated and guilty that its "too fucked up" even if it really isnt. I dont know tho what do I know?

I certainly think that some things that people out there are doing like betraying their partner are much more fucked up and these are the people that should be ashamed, not us, because we are not harming anyone.

[Guest]

16 hours ago, User39042 said:

 

I pointed out that it's better to invest in yourself, becoming the best version of you,

 

 

Why though. All the times I tried there was nothing to win. At all. Give finger, they pull your whole hand in awe look at that idiot being nice with nothing in return. 

 

On topic why their opinion would value to anything. If they so obsessed with my private life they probably have a couple corpses in their clothed they rather not have exposed. Doubt theres a single full good person that doesn't have any dirty shit on them. If porn and fetishes be one, so be it. Treating these things with healthy amount, sure be up to it. 

 

Too much of anything is never good.

[BurgerEater]

On 11/22/2022 at 8:42 AM, Gukahn said:

 

How about a Teddy Bear?

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Interesting 

[Mr. Otaku]

On 1/16/2023 at 2:18 PM, User39042 said:

I pointed out that it's better to invest in yourself, becoming the best version of you, rather than jerk off to a video where the girl could give two shits about you. Work out, dress nice, get your shit together, stop bullshitting yourself with excuses. Once you do, you'll view pornhub as I do, a trap for beta simps. I am telling you, from personal experience, it's so much better to look good and feel good than it is to eat potato chips and jerk off infront of your monitor. When hot girls get bashful around you when you smile at them and say hi, you don't feel guilty about banging them. You do feel guilty when you jerk off and have nothing to show for it.

 

If YOU don't feel guilty, then cool, continue what you are doing. Have fun. However, I'm relating my personal past and how I felt guilty when I was in my young 20's not doing anything with my life and my hobby was porn. Now the only porn I watch is hentai because you really can't get that in real life and video games, because it's more fun than vanilla gaming. But, the majority of my life is working out, dressing nice, and making money, which beats the shit out of sitting around in my boxers watching pornhub.

 

Yeah except i was replying to a specific part of your comment, nothing i said goes against self improvement or whatever. Obviously it's good to invest in yourself but you don't need a braindead complex about how watching porn means some alpha/beta/sigma/omega/delta/simp/cuck or whatever other new shit ya'll keep coming up with, that's some 4chan manosphere level garbage. I've never once felt guilty about watching porn so who's the one bullshitting himself with excuses here?

 

And you telling me about hot girls getting bashful around me is like a janitor lecturing an economist about how the supply chain capital budgeting works, i'm lucky, wealthy and i live real high without bullshit baggage about porn use and guilt. The people that actually "live the life" certainly don't think like you. Fuck now i sound like i'm bragging, look what you made me do.

[sdsddsdsddsdqw]

Guilt is good, convert it into a will for self-betterment. personally I sometimes push things so far to an extreme that I instantly revert backwards when my senses turn back to me. I remember I modded Skyrim so horridly once, and I was so disgusted with what I had just done to the game, that I just deleted and didn't reinstall till a year later. now tbh, I might throw my PC out of the window, see if that will put an end to this nightmare. 

[Gray User]

On 11/20/2022 at 2:50 PM, damarok said:

I do know how stupid that probably sounds, but somehow i often find myself feeling guilty after playing skyrim for a few hours, on a daily basis. Many people outside of LL criticize these mods and call people using them "degenerates". And I feel kinda ok with that, but sometimes its just like... it doesnt feel right, even though im enjoying it, and I must say, im playing with lots of adult mods.

So why do I feel the guilt which takes away from one of the very few things that bring me any joy these days?

 

Unsure if this is still being read, but I recommend the OP take a look at J. S. Mill 'On Liberty'. Or hedonism in general. 

 

In brief: if you aren't hurting people, do what makes you feel good. 

 

As many others have noted mass violence, often genocide, is normal in games. No reasonable ethical system that finds that acceptable would condemn kink. 

 

But also: keep it quiet. Most people have non-reasonable ethical systems and will get weird about it. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by Gray User

[Wapoww]

Sometime I feel guilty because I spend time on in. But now games feel dull for me. Now I use skyrim just to draw things and post it on social media.

[User39042]

On 1/18/2023 at 12:38 PM, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Yeah except i was replying to a specific part of your comment, nothing i said goes against self improvement or whatever. Obviously it's good to invest in yourself but you don't need a braindead complex about how watching porn means some alpha/beta/sigma/omega/delta/simp/cuck or whatever other new shit ya'll keep coming up with, that's some 4chan manosphere level garbage. I've never once felt guilty about watching porn so who's the one bullshitting himself with excuses here?

 

And you telling me about hot girls getting bashful around me is like a janitor lecturing an economist about how the supply chain capital budgeting works, i'm lucky, wealthy and i live real high without bullshit baggage about porn use and guilt. The people that actually "live the life" certainly don't think like you. Fuck now i sound like i'm bragging, look what you made me do.

 

Why feel guilty about bragging? If you worked hard for something, show it off. Else, why the fuck would you work hard for it, if not to flaunt it? That's like 90% of the reason I make mods, and most people I think.

However, if you were born into your wealth. Then yeah, you and I won't connect on much. And no, I will never see watching porn has anything but a time sink that actually is proven to be unhealthy for you. So, if I'm going to watch porn, it's got to be legendary quality or something I can't get in the real world. If you're swimming in pussy, have nothing but fuck you money, and have nothing but time on your hands, then how would you understand the struggle of survival and the guilt of not doing something better with your time, if your already at the finish line? You wouldn't, you can't relate from your ivory tower. People who have to worry if they have enough food for the winter will feel guilty for not harvesting enough food for the winter.

[Darkpig]

My NPCs finally have genitals so I have no regrets.

[Alessia Wellington]

2 hours ago, Darkpig said:

My NPCs finally have genitals.

 

Now you can test your new knife.

[FauxFurry]

The only reason to feel bad about it is that one could have played a game like Fear and Hunger that has full frontal nudity and sexual violence in it that does not require modding and has some degree of positive critical reception (or at least spent an hour watching a video on it rather than playing it).

It isn't degenerate, it is avantgarde just like Mapplethorpe homoerotic photo scenes. 

 

[Miauzi]

do I regret something - now at 60 years of age?

but of course - namely that I only came up with the idea 15 years ago to finally overcome all my (pathetic) fears and to do what I really enjoy

and funny - you then meet other people in real life who like similar things - so you're not a "single copy" (of a perverse subspecies of humans).

---

otherwise the thread moves here again and again in the same circle

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[Mr. Otaku]

On 2/5/2023 at 12:32 AM, User39042 said:

Why feel guilty about bragging? If you worked hard for something, show it off. Else, why the fuck would you work hard for it, if not to flaunt it? That's like 90% of the reason I make mods, and most people I think.

 

Because i don't wanna come off as an egotistical douchebag. I'm all for flaunting but it's hard to know how much is enough before i start coming off as a narcissist so i understate everything about me.

 

On 2/5/2023 at 12:32 AM, User39042 said:

However, if you were born into your wealth. Then yeah, you and I won't connect on much. And no, I will never see watching porn has anything but a time sink that actually is proven to be unhealthy for you. So, if I'm going to watch porn, it's got to be legendary quality or something I can't get in the real world. If you're swimming in pussy, have nothing but fuck you money, and have nothing but time on your hands, then how would you understand the struggle of survival and the guilt of not doing something better with your time, if your already at the finish line? You wouldn't, you can't relate from your ivory tower.

 

And here's the reason why, i barely even talked about myself and you're claiming i can't relate to people struggling with their finances. I'm not on an ivory tower, it's a bronze tower at best. I saw my parents build all their wealth up little by little as i grew up, i saw them struggle. I struggled myself because i was too proud to ask them for more than the bare minimum. The only reason i'm rich now is partly due to right connections we made and luck but i never plan to take any of it for granted.

 

That said, using your logic should poor people stop watching movies and listening to music? Just because someone's poor doesn't mean they can't engage with some entertainment and the idea that porn is somehow different from any other form of entertainment is just downright silly. I've seen the documentaries that "prove it's unhealthy" and i've also looked into which groups are funding them, if you actually buy into any of that horseshit then you're simply gullible and there's no nice way to put it. You're on a porn mod website arguing how porn is bad, does that irony not make your head hurt?

 

I mean look at this conversation, which one of us seems happier? If porn is so unhealthy then why are you sufferings from a blackpill complex about it while i'm doing just fine? If you believe you can be successful then let me as a successful person ask you, what makes you so sure?

 

You don't need to believe any of that shit about guilt in order to improve your life and do better, that's my whole point.

 

On 2/5/2023 at 12:32 AM, User39042 said:

People who have to worry if they have enough food for the winter will feel guilty for not harvesting enough food for the winter.

 

Dawg who the fuck is harvesting food for the winter just go to 7-11 ????  You're losing the sauce i'm telling you brother, it's not too late don't give in to bullshit 4chan crypto culture and be practical. I believe in you.

[Darkpig]

18 hours ago, Alessia Wellington said:

Now you can test your new knife.

But I don't need a new dildo. The one I have works just fine.

[Alessia Wellington]

5 hours ago, Darkpig said:

But I don't need a new dildo. The one I have works just fine.

 

There's no such thing as having too many dildos.

[lucifeh]

Imo, you only need to feel guilty is if you are single, no kids and doesn't want to be this way.

Now if you already had a kid and is married, then you SHOULD do naughty stuff with your computer instead of doing outside of your marriage ruining the lives of your kid and wife.

If you already know how marriage works and you are single again, it would be highly idiotic to search for an organic partner instead of having one you can just shutdown after you are done.

This whole thread is pointless... Only teenagers would feel guilty about masturbating... For example I would like very much to destroy someone's face with my dick but have you thought of the type of person that agree to do that? It is probably those girls that have HUGE personality issues and you will have TONS of headache with one of those... It is just not worthy for 10 minutes of daily pleasure imo... Well, I am not into maso stuff so this is my opinion, I prefer to just look, imagine and then press stop and go play something...

[Darkpig]

9 hours ago, Alessia Wellington said:

There's no such thing as having too many dildos.

True...

I wonder if Hermaeus Mora will let me borrow one of his tentacles?

[Alessia Wellington]

5 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

I wonder if Hermaeus Mora will let me borrow one of his tentacles?

 

Surely.

[ponzipyramid]

I'd argue that playing "modded" Skyrim is a less ethically dubious decision than consuming live action pornography. All that's happening when you click on that exe is some math and code that draws stuff on your screen. And the crashes, glitches, awkward actor alignment along with the fantastical nature of the game consistently reinforce that what you're looking at it is very much not real and the content therein isn't reflective of real world behavior or relationships.

 

On the other hand, actual porn has a wide range of consequences on real people. For performers that means STDs, trauma, social stigma, etc. Not to mention the truly vile stuff like human trafficking and underage or nonconsenting participants. And yet, it's generally considered to be a more acceptable activity.

 

I would like more clinical research which has historically been focused on the effects of violence in interactive media. This PCGamer article goes a bit into it but it's still kinda new ground: https://www.pcgamer.com/skyrim-sex-mods/

 

But for what we know now, I think as with every other hobby, it's all about moderation. If it's interrupting exercise, time with loved ones, sleep, diet, work/school, I would take a (potentially permanent) break.

[Mr. Otaku]

Well this got stupider.    

[Alessia Wellington]

1 minute ago, Mr. Otaku said:

Well this got stupider.

 

Did you expect anything else?

[Mr. Otaku]

6 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

Did you expect anything else?

 

Good point, i keep forgetting that this site is also is filled with plenty of stupidity and insecurities.

Edited February 8, 2023 by Mr. Otaku
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