YuFeng Posted October 28, 2025 Posted October 28, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, PubliusNV said: As I was going through the World - Quests section, I noted that Black Gold Mine - A Dungeon for the Meticulous Player requires the CC content Goblins and The Cause. So players with only the 4 CCs that came with AE cannot install it. The cause is one of the 26 CCs that have been included in AE as is the goblins CC. Edited October 29, 2025 by YuFeng
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 3 hours ago, YuFeng said: The cause is one of the 26 CCs that have been included in AE as is the goblins CC. Really? I only got 4 of the CCs when I got the free upgrade to AE. Are they available to download for those of us who don't have them?
YuFeng Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 16 minutes ago, PubliusNV said: Really? I only got 4 of the CCs when I got the free upgrade to AE. Are they available to download for those of us who don't have them? If you start the game, they should download automatically unless you set up something that would prevent that. At least if you actually have the Anniversary Edition. If you have only four CCs then you only have the special edition and would need to upgrade to the AE.
Lucky Sparrow Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 1 hour ago, PubliusNV said: Really? I only got 4 of the CCs when I got the free upgrade to AE. Are they available to download for those of us who don't have them? Yes they are available, but you have to buy them.
YuFeng Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) Heh, buying them directly would work too, I guess. At least to have them. But you'd still be on a different game version there, so instead of buying the creations, buy the anniversary edition upgrade. As far as I know, only the special edition upgrade was free. The Anniversary Edition always had to be bought. Edited October 29, 2025 by YuFeng
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 OK, so I have the AE upgrade from SSE that was offered to SSE owners in 2021, which gave players 4 CC items - Fishing/Survival Mode/Saints & Seducers/Rare Curios. And my Skyrim version is 1.6.1170. So I'm on AE but do not have Goblins or The Cause. My original comment stands.
YuFeng Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 You have the free SSE update, but not the AE version. Like mentioned above, you need to buy that. It was never free.
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) I have 1.6.1170. That's AE. It's not the paid AE, but it's AE. I'm sure I'm not the only one. My comment stands. Aylis can choose to ignore my comment, or make a note on the Black Gold Mine entry. Edited October 29, 2025 by PubliusNV
Varithina Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 3 hours ago, PubliusNV said: I have 1.6.1170. That's AE. It's not the paid AE, but it's AE. I'm sure I'm not the only one. My comment stands. Aylis can choose to ignore my comment, or make a note on the Black Gold Mine entry. I know quite a few people who play skyrim on the same version as you, and refuse to buy the paid update version, simply because they do not want all those other creations permanently in their load order, because lets face it most of them are utter crap, or trivial junk that they do not want or have better versions of them for free from nexus or other sites. You do have a point, I have noticed quite a few other mod list creates switching to that version of AE as well. However as Aylis does not do custom conflict patches it should be easy enough to just disable that mod, or any other mod you don't want.
Aylis Posted October 29, 2025 Author Posted October 29, 2025 (edited) Update is done. __________________________________________________ @PubliusNV Thanks for the info. I added a comment to the mod to make users aware of it. Should you encounter more of this please tell me about it. As I do have the paid addition I might miss (or forget about) this problem. P.S. Reworked 'Armors - Vanilla' for that. @YuFeng Your patches are integrated now (still checking if I missed one). The newest version of 'Environs - Abandoned Abodes - Patch Collection' shows up empty after a new installation. So it is not needed anymore. __________________________________________________ Now it going back to work on the intended update for all added armors, weapons and replacers. I'll most likely have to redo the page for the 'Predone zeroed Bodyslides'. Maybe I'll split them into 'Vanilla Armors' and 'Additional Armors'. Edited October 29, 2025 by Aylis
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 6 hours ago, Aylis said: I added a comment to the mod to make users aware of it. Should you encounter more of this please tell me about it. Thank you very much. I am awed and grateful for all the work you continue to put into this. My last checkpoint was after installing the PC section, and running around Whiterun and then to the Eastern Watchtower (where I had major problems a month ago) I'm still getting 59-60 FPS except for a slight dip to 54 FPS around the stables. So far I think the new trees are a great addition. 1
Aylis Posted October 29, 2025 Author Posted October 29, 2025 @PubliusNV Sounds good. 😊 The stable area always was problematic in regard to FPS. Now, with the addition of 'EFPS' (comes later in the guide), it smoothed out. There's still a slight dip but it got much better. And, as you are still close to the group, refresh the page. One of the last changes was adding roofs to 'JK's Fort Dawnguard'. The important part is that I'm finished adding changes to the landscape/locations (all options I wanted are in now). So no more rerunning of the grass cache and DynDOLOD.
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 29 minutes ago, Aylis said: One of the last changes was adding roofs to 'JK's Fort Dawnguard'. Thank you, I've got those 2 files now.
PubliusNV Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 The instructions for installing Lydia of Whiterun say to choose the IFD + Free Housecarls option for patches. This generates a dependency on the Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia mod, which I don't see in the list. Should Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia be added, or should the install instructions for Lydia of Whiterun specify just Free Housecarls instead of IFD + Free Housecarls?
YuFeng Posted October 29, 2025 Posted October 29, 2025 @Aylis Did you remove Guard Dialogue Overhaul because you didn't want Alternate Start loading below it? We could have made a patch. It also should load below RDO, but that too can be patched.
Aylis Posted October 30, 2025 Author Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, PubliusNV said: Should Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia be added, It already is. Check 'Sound - Character'. 1 hour ago, YuFeng said: @Aylis Did you remove Guard Dialogue Overhaul because you didn't want Alternate Start loading below it? We could have made a patch. It also should load below RDO, but that too can be patched. No, it started to get issues. Sometimes it worked fine, then it didn't. I set it up and still got, at Lvl. 1 with 15 sneak, more than once sneak-thief comments without doing anything... Quote A handful of records conflict between RDO and (AS)LAL. RDO includes the changes made to these conflicting records by (AS)LAL, and therefore should be loaded after (AS)LAL so that changes from both mods are applied. Its fine, or did I misunderstand that part? Edited October 30, 2025 by Aylis
PubliusNV Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 29 minutes ago, Aylis said: It already is. Check 'Sound - Character'. Sorry, I just checked again and I don't see it. Spoiler 1
YuFeng Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Well depends... if it is before RDO then there will be messages about dragons before they showed up for the first time. If that's not a concern, then you can load RDO after alternate life. Funnily enough, RDO had the condition of a dragon being killed before that started, but that was removed in RDO Updated. We can patch that in, though. Edited October 30, 2025 by YuFeng 1
Aylis Posted October 30, 2025 Author Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Hotfix (will be added to the last update) Now I can add 'Done' to the last entry... All known 'Black Faces' are fixed. Spoiler World - Quests Save the Icerunner - Lights Out Alternate Routes Moved from 'Gameplay - Foundation'. Avoiding a patch... Sound - Characters Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia WTH was this missing? Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia - Lipsync Minor Fix Patches Project Cougar - Tilma the (mildly less) Haggard Tilma is healed now... Project Cougar - Tilma - AI Overhaul Patch The funny thing is that 'Save the Icerunner' was in quests and I moved it down to avoid 'Black Faces'. Now its up again to fix the same issue. Edited October 30, 2025 by Aylis
YuFeng Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Saving that patch that way should work since AI Overhaul does have something with the same name there what probably keeps the two npc in Solitude or something. Also, once again, thank you for the update :3 ---- Well.. just found out, that save the icerunner should be below The Choice is yours, or we'd need a patch for that too, so better move it down again ------------------- Speaking of patches. Here are some new ones. Isn't that nice? First is a patch for all the people using the optional Free Housecarls mod from the Followers section in the guide. Since we do have the Improved Follower Dialogue for Lydia now, we do need a patch for everyone not using the optional "Lydia of Whiterun" mod from the Followers section. Here I made a FOMOD to cover both Free Housecarls and no Free Housecarls options. If you are using the Free Housecarls mod, you will need to use the patch with both Lydia options. Load it directly after the Free Housecarls mod. The second patch for Lydia is only needed, if you are not using the "Lydia of Whiterun" mod and use the Lydia look provided by IMMORTAN. IMMORTAN - Free Housecarls Patch.7z IMMORTAN - Improved Follower Dialogue - Lydia Patch.7z Edited October 30, 2025 by YuFeng
Aylis Posted October 30, 2025 Author Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Update to 3.0.9 Feels like the mod authors got insane after 'VtM Bloodlines 2' dropped (darn Malkavians)! Every major mod got updates within the last week or so... And this means I have to push another update as this resulted in a few required changes. On the plus side we can get rid of some patches as those arn't needed anymore. And I can sneak in an additional voice type and the already finished weapons. Mods to REMOVE Spoiler Textures - Objects Hay Covered by PBR NPC BnP - Child Skin Not needed anymore Children of the Ash - AI Overhaul Patch Redundant with the new 'Skypatcher' versions. Children of the Ash - 3DNPCs Patch Children of the First - AI Overhaul Patch Children of the Green - USSEP Children of the Green - AI Overhaul Children of the Hist - AI Patch Jewelry Ioun Stones Too valuable and too common for its own good. Ioun Stones Mage Integration Weapons - Melee Bonemold Weapon Pack - Textures Covered by the added vanilla textures. Stalhrim Weapons and Armor The Regal Rapier and Dainty Dirk Low visual quality Nordic Draugr and Hero Weapons Covered by the added vanilla textures. Sound - Characters Subgroup: Voice Types PC Head Tracking Voice Type ans Dragon Shouts - Lucina Too limited Mods to ADD Spoiler Weapons - Melee Banneredge Dawnfang and Duskfang - No Forced Quest Moved from 'Patches CCC' Egil's Rapier Everedge Sword The visual options are up to you Everedge Sword - Shield to Back Patch Imperial Pugios Orc Hero Swords Old Orc with Orc Hero Sword - SkyPatcher Sunder and Wraithguard - Editable Vault Cell Moved from 'Patches CCC' Vindicator Blade Velothi Warscythe Velothi Warscythe - Warhammer to Battleaxe Sound - Characters Subgroup: Voice Types DBVO Bella Voice DBVO Bella Voice - Radiant quest fix DBVO Bella Voice - Main and DLC DBVO Bella Voice - Wet and Cold DBVO Bella Voice - Vayne Remastered DBVO Bella Voice - Heart of Ice - Astrid DBVO Bella Voice - The Iceheart Mill DBVO Bella Voice - The Iceheart Sisters DBVO Bella Voice - FDE - Aela the Huntress DBVO Bella Voice - FDE - Lydia PBR (Physical Based Rendering) PBR Hay Edited October 30, 2025 by Aylis
belegost Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Is there a standalone version of your list, like a document or a spreadsheet? I am using your list as a reference and suggestion list for building my own load order and would like to do away with spoiler tags, so I can freely use text search function. The ability to mark what I already have, what I might consider at a later date and what I am not interested in would also be nice to have. None of which is available for a forum post and this list is massive. I have been slowly going through it for over a week now and I am at the point I have to go back and remind myself whether or not I have a particular mod installed or even if I am interested in it. Edited October 30, 2025 by belegost
userdeviant Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 (edited) Hi Aylis, first of all thank you for your great work! I have some (stupid?) questions as I am really beginer of modding (with poor english:) - i need to do every (blue) step of your list, install mods etc, sometimes decide myself when fomod choices, sometimes some yellow mods ... and whole time i do not need to run some other things like pandora, dyndolod, texsomething, bodyslide or simply anything ... only mods, patience, coffee and MO2 ... right? - after this all i need to run dyndolod, pandora and that thing around paralax (forgot name) and reshade too? and do some things, place outputs from that things at the end of load order ... right? - end of all is turn off things for dyndolod, do some things with wrye bash and then i can finaly enjoy game, right? And do i really need to use bodyslide? or only install presets as mods to right place (that caliente etc folder), keep all things zeroed and everything will fit? Im not sure if i understand right all that around bodyslide so i hoye you tell me "no need":) And if i really wanna add this mod, where is it the best place in load order? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/35880 Or do you know some other mod that will fit and what makes slow mo in combat on keypress? Or i am stupid and that mod is present and i missed it? And last thing: i am at your mod list at World - Locations [Exterior Skyrim], not far, and tried some test run of game. It was perfect ctd:) After click on start new game. I found out that if i skip The Great City Of Dawnstar, everything is ok. Do i need skip Dawnstar Burial Site too or this is something else? Thank you very much and have a nice day Edited October 30, 2025 by userdeviant
Kamikatana Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 Hi Aylis, With RSChildren gone, should we keep NPC's "BnP - Child Skin", and if yes, which one should we pick? (i.e. RS, TKAA or Simple). Thanks.
Kamikatana Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 Sorry.. one more thing. I know you just moved "Save the Icerunner" to Quests to solve a black face problem, but I think one of the reasons you originally had it further below is that it must be below "The Choice is Yours" (according to some comments in the "Save the Icerunner" posts). Something about the fact that the quest runs "vanilla" if not below Just something to think about. Thanks again...
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